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Ted Nugent fined for failing to kill bear
Probably won't kill Obama either, Secret Service says
By Lester Haines • In Bootnotes • At 18:03 GMT 25th April 2012
Ted Nugent – the hunter, "conservative activist" and rock guitarist whose Marshall amps probably go up to 12 – has been fined for failing to finish off a black bear he wounded with a bow and arrow.
Nugent, 63, winged the creature during a 2009 hunting trip in a US national forest in southeast Alaska for his reality TV show Ted Nugent Spirit of the Wild. However, he failed to track it down and administer the coup de grace, as the law requires.
Alaska allows "an annual bag limit of one black bear per designated geographic area", Reuters explains. Wounded animals count towards the bag, so Nugent was heading straight for court when, four days after wounding the first bear, he killed a second.
The rocker then committed a second breach of environmental protection law – specifically of the Lacey Act – by "transporting his prey by boat out of the national forest".
Nugent pleaded guilty by telephone in the US District Court in Ketchikan, Alaska, yesterday. He was slapped with a $10,000 (£6,200) fine, two years' probabation, and was "forbidden from hunting in Alaska or any US national forest for a year".
He told the court: "I cherish my hunting time and relationships with the people and the wildlife of Alaska. I'm afraid I was blindsided by this, and I sincerely apologise to everyone for it."
As well as falling foul of the Alaskan authorities, Nugent has had a spot of bother with Secret Service agents, who last week asked him to clarify comments he made about Barack Obama at the National Rifle Association convention in St Louis.
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rest of article here:
http://m.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/25/nugent_fine/ (http://m.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/25/nugent_fine/)
Why is "conservative activist" in quotes?
Liberal media.
Quote from: derspiess on April 25, 2012, 02:53:13 PM
Why is "conservative activist" in quotes?
To let the reader know that it's a euphemism.
So, if you wound the bear and it gets away and you can't find it, you've broken the law? What are you supposed to do in that case?
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 25, 2012, 03:00:02 PM
So, if you wound the bear and it gets away and you can't find it, you've broken the law? What are you supposed to do in that case?
taking the second bear is what got him. if a bear dies in the woods and no one sees him it still counts :P
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 25, 2012, 03:00:02 PM
So, if you wound the bear and it gets away and you can't find it, you've broken the law? What are you supposed to do in that case?
Make a fake bear, tag it, and check it in with the game warden.
Headlines aren't sentences, tool.
Bow hunters are the dumbest collection of hunting ass fucks, as they are not nearly as proficient as they should be or think they are, and proper bow hunting requires the most talent and skill, not just in aiming but tracking the kill down.
And you can always tell it's bow hunting season when you come across a deer clipped in the road, and he's got an arrow sticking out of his hindquarters like a corpse from Little Bighorn, all wounded, infected and crippled because he got Robin Hooded from some mouth-breathing Coors Lite swigging Dumbfuckistani from last fucking season.
Too bad there aren't nearly enough hunting tragedies during bow season as there are during rifle season. More hunters need more hybrid carbon arrow shafts through their fucking jugulars.
Dickheads.
Maybe Nugent is right and he will be dead or in jail this time next year, with a fucking crossbow bolt through his fucking femoral or somebody else's.
Is he the idiot who was singing/shouting about forcing Obama and Hillary to "suck his gun"?
Quote from: derspiess on April 25, 2012, 02:53:13 PM
Why is "conservative activist" in quotes?
I thought you'd appreciate an idiot like that not being called a bona fide conservative?
Quote from: derspiess on April 25, 2012, 02:53:13 PM
Why is "conservative activist" in quotes?
Because he defines the term rather loosely. :P
Is he a social conservative? :hmm:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 25, 2012, 03:53:43 PM
Bow hunters are the dumbest collection of hunting ass fucks, as they are not nearly as proficient as they should be or think they are, and proper bow hunting requires the most talent and skill, not just in aiming but tracking the kill down.
I do not totally disagree with this. As a hunter I think you owe it to the animal to strive for the cleanest, quickest kill possible and it seems that bow hunters often tend to be lacking in this area.
I'm so OCD about lining up the perfect shot I've never actually shot a deer myself :mellow:
Quote from: Martinus on April 25, 2012, 03:56:31 PM
I thought you'd appreciate an idiot like that not being called a bona fide conservative?
But I like The Nuge.
Quote from: derspiess on April 25, 2012, 04:04:38 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 25, 2012, 03:53:43 PM
Bow hunters are the dumbest collection of hunting ass fucks, as they are not nearly as proficient as they should be or think they are, and proper bow hunting requires the most talent and skill, not just in aiming but tracking the kill down.
I do not totally disagree with this. As a hunter I think you owe it to the animal to strive for the cleanest, quickest kill possible and it seems that bow hunters often tend to be lacking in this area.
I'm so OCD about lining up the perfect shot I've never actually shot a deer myself :mellow:
:lol: Always looking for the pink mist, huh. That's the thing about bow-hunting, you've got to get that oblique angle just right, or it just won't work.
Well, at least true bow hunters are as concerned about the issue; bad bow hunters give the good ones a bad reputation. I worked with a guy that was such a good bow hunter, the deer doesn't even realize it; passes straight through the heart or the main artery, runs a bit, and lays down and dies. Doesn't do it just for sport, either. Actually eats the fucker. And he will narc out bow hunters to the DNR that are just goofing around.
Nugent seems determined to make his prophecy self-fulfilling by breaking the law.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 25, 2012, 04:20:21 PM
Well, at least true bow hunters are as concerned about the issue; bad bow hunters give the good ones a bad reputation. I worked with a guy that was such a good bow hunter, the deer doesn't even realize it; passes straight through the heart or the main artery, runs a bit, and lays down and dies.
I've seen hunting shows where they get shots like that on bear. Friggin' arrow goes clean through and the bear can barely take a couple steps before it falls.
QuoteDoesn't do it just for sport, either. Actually eats the fucker. And he will narc out bow hunters to the DNR that are just goofing around.
Everyone I know who hunts deer eats what they kill. Thankfully my uncle can butcher a deer in his sleep (and probably has), so if I get one on his farm I'll come home with as much deer meat as I can fit in my cooler.
Quote from: Viking on April 25, 2012, 04:24:13 PM
Nugent seems determined to make his prophecy self-fulfilling by breaking the law.
Not really. This was a pretty minor infraction.
I think that would be my biggest issue with hunting. It not so much killing it for its meat - I would probably really enjoy the eating part. Its that I have never shot a gun, never mind try to kill something with it and I would likely make a horrible botch up of the whole thing.
Quote from: Habbaku on April 25, 2012, 03:26:20 PM
Headlines aren't sentences, tool.
Thanks for reminding me you should go on my ignore list, tool. ;)
Quote from: derspiess on April 25, 2012, 04:29:45 PM
Thankfully my uncle can butcher a deer in his sleep (and probably has), so if I get one on his farm I'll come home with as much deer meat as I can fit in my cooler.
Oh man, nothing beats good venison sausage, with some monterrey jack threaded in.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 25, 2012, 04:35:37 PM
I think that would be my biggest issue with hunting. It not so much killing it for its meat - I would probably really enjoy the eating part. Its that I have never shot a gun, never mind try to kill something with it and I would likely make a horrible botch up of the whole thing.
You can do what Trump sons did, and arrange a hunt where you basically execute the animal. You're probably rich enough for that.
I am not sure what the point of that would be.
I'd like to release Polacks and Slavs in a fenced in yard and shoot them from a second story window.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 25, 2012, 05:08:18 PM
I am not sure what the point of that would be.
You can feel like a man, without putting yourself through unnecessary hardship and danger.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 25, 2012, 05:08:18 PM
I am not sure what the point of that would be.
Do much of the leisure pursuits of the rich and famous have a point, other than perhaps as acts of vanity ?
Ted Nugent and the Ghost of Christmas Past
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0UY4tHHb4o
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 25, 2012, 05:08:18 PM
I am not sure what the point of that would be.
You wouldn't risk getting arrested for allowing the thing to escape.
QuoteDo much of the leisure pursuits of the rich and famous have a point, other than perhaps as acts of vanity ?
I dont know. If DGuller puts me into that categorie I would like to think that coaching (my main leisure pursuit now that I cant ski) isnt all vanity.
I would have to concede that my other main leisure pursuit of drinking wine has no redeeming quality, other than supporting a worthwhile industry, but I dont see much vanity in that - other than sharing a good bottle with friends now and then.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 25, 2012, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 25, 2012, 04:29:45 PM
Thankfully my uncle can butcher a deer in his sleep (and probably has), so if I get one on his farm I'll come home with as much deer meat as I can fit in my cooler.
Oh man, nothing beats good venison sausage, with some monterrey jack threaded in.
Good stuff indeed! :)
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 25, 2012, 05:20:28 PM
I would have to concede that my other main leisure pursuit of drinking wine has no redeeming quality, other than supporting a worthwhile industry, but I dont see much vanity in that - other than sharing a good bottle with friends now and then.
Nonsense. Enjoying a good bottle is in the same category as listening to Mozart or looking at a Renoir or the figure of a beautiful woman. What is its "redeeming quality"? It makes the world a better place to live. :)
You're a good man MiM.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 25, 2012, 05:27:58 PM
It makes the world a better place to live. :)
:yes: At least until you sober up.
You should try drinking fine wine without getting drunk. It is much better that way.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 25, 2012, 05:54:20 PM
You should try drinking fine wine without getting drunk. It is much better that way.
I should think that would depend on the whine. I've seen you drunk on whine several times right here on Languish.
Quote from: grumbler on April 25, 2012, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 25, 2012, 05:54:20 PM
You should try drinking fine wine without getting drunk. It is much better that way.
I should think that would depend on the whine. I've seen you drunk on whine several times right here on Languish.
"Sour grapes," said grumbler.
Quote from: Jacob on April 25, 2012, 07:09:12 PM
Quote from: grumbler on April 25, 2012, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 25, 2012, 05:54:20 PM
You should try drinking fine wine without getting drunk. It is much better that way.
I should think that would depend on the whine. I've seen you drunk on whine several times right here on Languish.
"Sour grapes," said grumbler.
Meh, ever since he was at that wedding where his water was turned into wine, grumbler's been less than impressed with anything else.
Maybe Grumbler should stop stalking CC.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 25, 2012, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 25, 2012, 04:29:45 PM
Thankfully my uncle can butcher a deer in his sleep (and probably has), so if I get one on his farm I'll come home with as much deer meat as I can fit in my cooler.
Oh man, nothing beats good venison sausage, with some monterrey jack threaded in.
Bah. Moose sausage is where it is at. :mmm:
I miss living in moose country. :(
Quote from: Barrister on April 25, 2012, 09:38:15 PM
Bah. Moose sausage is where it is at. :mmm:
I miss living in moose country. :(
Moose? WTF? :mad:
They're so cute. :(
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 25, 2012, 07:25:54 PM
Meh, ever since he was at that wedding where his water was turned into wine, grumbler's been less than impressed with anything else.
:lol:
The wine was Mad Dog 20/20, though. :(
I get the wounded one bear then killed another, wounding counts as killing, bit.
But...transporting the bear away by boat? What is the law he is breaking there? If you kill a bear you're not allowed to take it away or hunting with boats is bad or?....
Celebrity fucks up. *Golf Clap* :rolleyes:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 25, 2012, 09:46:54 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 25, 2012, 09:38:15 PM
Bah. Moose sausage is where it is at. :mmm:
I miss living in moose country. :(
Moose? WTF? :mad:
They're so cute. :(
Yea, why dont you walk up and pet one and see what happens. :lol:
Quote from: derspiess on April 25, 2012, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: Viking on April 25, 2012, 04:24:13 PM
Nugent seems determined to make his prophecy self-fulfilling by breaking the law.
Not really. This was a pretty minor infraction.
$10,000 fine and 2 years probation plus a federal criminal conviction is not exactly a traffic ticket. :mellow:
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 27, 2012, 09:02:39 AM
Quote from: derspiess on April 25, 2012, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: Viking on April 25, 2012, 04:24:13 PM
Nugent seems determined to make his prophecy self-fulfilling by breaking the law.
Not really. This was a pretty minor infraction.
$10,000 fine and 2 years probation plus a federal criminal conviction is not exactly a traffic ticket. :mellow:
It was a misdemeanor. He was able to phone in his guilty plea, and $10,000 is pocket change for Nuge.
This incident has not killed him, nor has it put him in jail. He'd have to do something else to fulfill his Obama reelection prophecy.
If you hunt without using BAT you're a retard.