A game to celebrate the overheated Canadian real estate market ... two years ago. Still just as bad if not worse today (Toronto is similarly crazy).
http://www.crackshackormansion.com/
:(
Wait, so if it can withstand rain it's automatically worth a mil in Vancouver?
Got 4 out of 16 correct, so a monkey would be better at this than me.
The reason that you'd be bad at this is that, unlike a monkey, you'd attempt to use reason. Vancouverites are incapable of reason, and so their doings are difficult to decipher for rational beings.
10/16 :cool:
Some insane prices there. Londonesque in their insanity, though some of the dumps appeared to have a large lot.
:lol:
That was fun. I was looking to relocate to Vancouver (maybe) last year.
They wanted half a mil for a shitty, small condo not even downtown. So that, the FREAKING INCESSANT RAIN, and the fact relocation-girl was probably not right in the head made me stay put. :)
In British Columbia there are crack houses, meth houses, heroin houses, and marijuana plantations. Every type of abode fits into one of these categories, thus identifying the crack houses is more challenging.
This thread is spoiling the view of Canada as paradise on Earth. :(
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 14, 2012, 04:49:11 PM
This thread is spoiling the view of Canada as paradise on Earth. :(
Somebody held that view?
Try february in Toronto ... ;)
Quote from: Malthus on April 14, 2012, 05:35:28 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 14, 2012, 04:49:11 PM
This thread is spoiling the view of Canada as paradise on Earth. :(
Somebody held that view?
Try february in Toronto ... ;)
How about summer? Gotta love that raw Sewage smell around front street :P
Hey I was born by in crack house? It was later bought by a hospital and used to store medical waste. Then it got torn down. Now the neighborhood has an epidemic of bald children.
Quote from: Zoupa on April 14, 2012, 03:33:35 PM
So that, the FREAKING INCESSANT RAIN,
:huh:
QuoteVancouver averages 166 days per year with measurable precipitation, and 289 days with measurable sunshine
Rain every other day is a lot more than most people are used to.
The worst part of living in Vancouver is indeed the rain - when it does rain. On the other 289 days it is paradise on earth.
The worst parts of living in most other cities are things which are not so infrequent.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 09:54:57 AM
The worst part of living in Vancouver is indeed the rain - when it does rain.
Well that, and the real estate market. :D
But yeah, part of why the market is so crazy is because Vancouver is widely seen as a good place to live ... here's hoping that the endless articles about how we are in an unsustainable bubble about to crash and burn prove as inaccurate this year as they have proven the last decade or so. ;)
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 09:54:57 AM
The worst part of living in Vancouver is indeed the rain - when it does rain. On the other 289 days it is paradise on earth.
The worst parts of living in most other cities are things which are not so infrequent.
:lmfao:
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 09:54:57 AM
The worst part of living in Vancouver is indeed the rain - when it does rain. On the other 289 days it is paradise on earth.
I'd guess that to be the best part.
Quote from: Malthus on April 15, 2012, 09:57:37 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 09:54:57 AM
The worst part of living in Vancouver is indeed the rain - when it does rain.
Well that, and the real estate market. :D
Not from my perspective ;)
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 10:31:44 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 15, 2012, 09:57:37 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 09:54:57 AM
The worst part of living in Vancouver is indeed the rain - when it does rain.
Well that, and the real estate market. :D
Not from my perspective ;)
I dunno. Even you were bitching about trying to find a place without a rental unit.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 09:54:57 AM
The worst part of living in Vancouver is indeed the rain - when it does rain. On the other 289 days it is paradise on earth.
So 289 + 166 = 365? :huh:
Vancouverites in denial. ;)
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 15, 2012, 10:56:14 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 09:54:57 AM
The worst part of living in Vancouver is indeed the rain - when it does rain. On the other 289 days it is paradise on earth.
So 289 + 166 = 365? :huh:
Maybe its a metric year, the conversion rates really throw me for a loop.
Quote from: katmai on April 14, 2012, 10:47:36 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on April 14, 2012, 03:33:35 PM
So that, the FREAKING INCESSANT RAIN,
:huh:
QuoteVancouver averages 166 days per year with measurable precipitation, and 289 days with measurable sunshine
Measurable sunshine. :lol:
Quote from: Ideologue on April 15, 2012, 12:50:51 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 14, 2012, 10:47:36 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on April 14, 2012, 03:33:35 PM
So that, the FREAKING INCESSANT RAIN,
:huh:
QuoteVancouver averages 166 days per year with measurable precipitation, and 289 days with measurable sunshine
Measurable sunshine. :lol:
Measured in J/cm
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Quote from: Ideologue on April 15, 2012, 12:50:51 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 14, 2012, 10:47:36 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on April 14, 2012, 03:33:35 PM
So that, the FREAKING INCESSANT RAIN,
:huh:
QuoteVancouver averages 166 days per year with measurable precipitation, and 289 days with measurable sunshine
Measurable sunshine. :lol:
Apparently Canadians are all about it. I typed in measurable sunshine to google and most of the top hits were about Canadian cities. How sad.
If you can see, isn't the sunshine always measurable by, you know, your eyes?
Quote from: Ideologue on April 15, 2012, 03:00:14 PM
If you can see, isn't the sunshine always measurable by, you know, your eyes?
What about recreational blindness?
Quote from: The Brain on April 15, 2012, 03:00:48 PM
What about recreational blindness?
Sounds like a disreputable hobby to me.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 15, 2012, 03:00:14 PM
If you can see, isn't the sunshine always measurable by, you know, your eyes?
Nope. By pyranometer.
^_^
I just think it's funny that for 176 days out of the year, they're saying that the sun is literally undetectable (even with instruments!).
I can't find a proper definition for "measurable sunshine" though; I suppose it means days where the sun manages, however briefly, to not be obscured by clouds? Hail Ra, I guess.
Quote from: NeilNope. By pyranometer.
Yeah, that's how you'd get irradiance per area numbers; but unless the Sun Eater comes, I'm pretty sure the only time a sensitive enough pyranometer (or a functional, non-Lettowed human eye) can detect and measure sunlight practically always, even on most
nights. What does "measurable" mean? For Canadian purposes, it clearly means less light than will produce an image.
Then one day we saw the sun
and the whaling fleet's return
greet an old friend, sing a song
for the season won't be long
and it's homeward bound when it's over
we'll leeeaave this icy hole
but I always will remember
Vancouver's house market bold!
I was intrigued, visiting relatives in the Toronto area, that they had magazines about composting. The place is icebound for about 8 months a year, so instead of actually gardening the gardener is reduced to reading magazines about compost :hmm:
Not that this has anything to do with the earthly paradise of Vancouver of course. I daresay the gardening year is the full 12 months there :cool:
Quote from: Neil on April 15, 2012, 10:43:49 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 10:31:44 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 15, 2012, 09:57:37 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 09:54:57 AM
The worst part of living in Vancouver is indeed the rain - when it does rain.
Well that, and the real estate market. :D
Not from my perspective ;)
I dunno. Even you were bitching about trying to find a place without a rental unit.
Yeah, but I realize few people earn what I do so if I want a large house it forces me to buy one with good resale value - ie one that has a rental area if the buyer wants to use it for that purpose. That small sacrifice has put me in a much better financial position. So like I said, the housing market is definitely not a problem from my perspective.
It would however be hell for anyone wanting to move here from Edmonton. Its good to know we can keep the undesirables out.
Quote from: garbon on April 15, 2012, 01:37:55 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 15, 2012, 12:50:51 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 14, 2012, 10:47:36 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on April 14, 2012, 03:33:35 PM
So that, the FREAKING INCESSANT RAIN,
:huh:
QuoteVancouver averages 166 days per year with measurable precipitation, and 289 days with measurable sunshine
Measurable sunshine. :lol:
Apparently Canadians are all about it. I typed in measurable sunshine to google and most of the top hits were about Canadian cities. How sad.
Yeah, I wish we could talk about murder rates more. Alas we dont live in New York. :cry:
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 03:43:27 PM
It would however be hell for anyone wanting to move here from Edmonton. Its good to know we can keep the undesirables out.
Why would anyone want to move from Edmonton to Vancouver? Edmonton is bad enough, why go somewhere worse?
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 03:45:38 PM
Yeah, I wish we could talk about murder rates more. Alas we dont live in New York. :cry:
And yet I know no one who has been murdered. Meanwhile, I know plenty of people who have been sunburnt as I know lots of foolish white people. :D
Quote from: garbon on April 15, 2012, 06:31:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 03:45:38 PM
Yeah, I wish we could talk about murder rates more. Alas we dont live in New York. :cry:
And yet I know no one who has been murdered.
I suppose that is noteworthy where you live.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 15, 2012, 03:19:35 PM
^_^
I just think it's funny that for 176 days out of the year, they're saying that the sun is literally undetectable (even with instruments!).
289 + 176 = 365? :hmm:
The point is, I think, that Vancouver has weather rather than climate. It therefore has no difficulty having 289 sunny days and 176 rainy days all in the same year.
The west of Ireland is probably the most extreme case of this that I'm aware of, they have 300 rainy days a year and 300 sunny days a year.
Then there are hellholes where the weather is the same day after day after day...............
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on April 14, 2012, 03:24:35 PM
10/16 :cool:
Some insane prices there. Londonesque in their insanity, though some of the dumps appeared to have a large lot.
Where I last lived in London the police sent community support officers round to talk to neighbours (like us) about the recent 'Crack House Closure Order' they'd issued on a house on our street. I thought it was a bit much to have a specific order for that :lol:
We also got letters from the community support people a lot and the occasional stuff about stopping dog fights at the end of our street. Since I moved to Tower Hamlets I've had none of the same. I don't know if it's because I'm in a lower crime area or the police here are just shit at community outreach :mellow:
QuoteThe west of Ireland is probably the most extreme case of this that I'm aware of, they have 300 rainy days a year and 300 sunny days a year.
I had similar in the Highlands. The only place I've lived that actually could include all four seasons in a day.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 03:43:27 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 15, 2012, 10:43:49 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 10:31:44 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 15, 2012, 09:57:37 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 09:54:57 AM
The worst part of living in Vancouver is indeed the rain - when it does rain.
Well that, and the real estate market. :D
Not from my perspective ;)
I dunno. Even you were bitching about trying to find a place without a rental unit.
Yeah, but I realize few people earn what I do so if I want a large house it forces me to buy one with good resale value - ie one that has a rental area if the buyer wants to use it for that purpose. That small sacrifice has put me in a much better financial position. So like I said, the housing market is definitely not a problem from my perspective.
It would however be hell for anyone wanting to move here from Edmonton. Its good to know we can keep the undesirables out.
Edmonton real estate is pretty fucking crazy too. It still astounds me how much we had to spend for such a fairly average house. A half million doesn't go nearly as far as you'd think.
Quote from: Habbaku on April 15, 2012, 07:30:07 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 15, 2012, 03:19:35 PM
^_^
I just think it's funny that for 176 days out of the year, they're saying that the sun is literally undetectable (even with instruments!).
289 + 176 = 365? :hmm:
76, whatever.
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2012, 07:53:00 PM
Edmonton real estate is pretty fucking crazy too. It still astounds me how much we had to spend for such a fairly average house. A half million doesn't go nearly as far as you'd think.
Ugh.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 07:21:30 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 15, 2012, 06:31:47 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 03:45:38 PM
Yeah, I wish we could talk about murder rates more. Alas we dont live in New York. :cry:
And yet I know no one who has been murdered.
I suppose that is noteworthy where you live.
You're the one who brought up murder, darling...in the midst of your pointless quest to trick people into thinking Vancouver is the best place on Earth.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 15, 2012, 07:55:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2012, 07:53:00 PM
Edmonton real estate is pretty fucking crazy too. It still astounds me how much we had to spend for such a fairly average house. A half million doesn't go nearly as far as you'd think.
Ugh.
I can get you a fine house for 10K.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on April 15, 2012, 07:37:37 PM
The point is, I think, that Vancouver has weather rather than climate. It therefore has no difficulty having 289 sunny days and 176 rainy days all in the same year.
The west of Ireland is probably the most extreme case of this that I'm aware of, they have 300 rainy days a year and 300 sunny days a year.
Then there are hellholes where the weather is the same day after day after day...............
Monterey, CA is such an awful hellhole. :(
Tricky Dick has been to Monterey Toni :P
10/16
V
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 15, 2012, 08:30:44 PM
I can get you a fine house for 10K.
I can get him a parking spot for 10k.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 15, 2012, 03:43:27 PM
Yeah, but I realize few people earn what I do so if I want a large house it forces me to buy one with good resale value - ie one that has a rental area if the buyer wants to use it for that purpose. That small sacrifice has put me in a much better financial position. So like I said, the housing market is definitely not a problem from my perspective.
We decided we didn't want to deal with renters, so our place is built without a rental unit (and not easy to convert into a rental). Probably not a good call for resale, as you say... though we could fill it up with homestay students I guess.
On the quiz: 14/16
3/4 of a million for a little over 1300 square feet. Of course, it is a pretty unique property.
It's just a block away from where I used to live (in a co-op, paying under $500/ month for a one bedroom apartment).
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Crack shack.
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Crack shack.
Is that where the Canucks choke at? MY EYES HURT.
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Crack shack.
I understand a person from Edmonton would have difficulty recognizing where a team that makes the playoffs plays its games.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 16, 2012, 05:38:05 PM
Is that where the Canucks choke at? MY EYES HURT.
Its not over until the Marti equivalent sings.
Apparently, the Toronto real estate market is now hotter than Vancouver's.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/top-business-stories/toronto-nabs-hottest-housing-market-title-from-vancouver/article2403649/
Quote from: Malthus on April 16, 2012, 05:57:53 PM
Apparently, the Toronto real estate market is now hotter than Vancouver's.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/top-business-stories/toronto-nabs-hottest-housing-market-title-from-vancouver/article2403649/
Enjoy! :)
Quote from: Jacob on April 16, 2012, 06:06:59 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 16, 2012, 05:57:53 PM
Apparently, the Toronto real estate market is now hotter than Vancouver's.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/top-business-stories/toronto-nabs-hottest-housing-market-title-from-vancouver/article2403649/
Enjoy! :)
I'm not really enjoying - I don't see any real upside to me of real estate prices wildly increasing, as I don't have any plans to sell and move (elsewhere). All it is likely to do is result in increased tax assessments on the one hand, and increased chances that the market will crash and burn with bad economic consequences on the other. :lol:
Yeah, I know.
Quote from: Malthus on April 16, 2012, 06:12:07 PM
I'm not really enjoying - I don't see any real upside to me of real estate prices wildly increasing, as I don't have any plans to sell and move (elsewhere). All it is likely to do is result in increased tax assessments on the one hand, and increased chances that the market will crash and burn with bad economic consequences on the other. :lol:
If all prices rise relatively equally you will not have an increase in property taxes. The problem comes if your property rises faster than others.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 16, 2012, 06:15:12 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 16, 2012, 06:12:07 PM
I'm not really enjoying - I don't see any real upside to me of real estate prices wildly increasing, as I don't have any plans to sell and move (elsewhere). All it is likely to do is result in increased tax assessments on the one hand, and increased chances that the market will crash and burn with bad economic consequences on the other. :lol:
If all prices rise relatively equally you will not have an increase in property taxes. The problem comes if your property rises faster than others.
I dunno. My tax bill is a straight calculation based on assessed property values. I suppose they get around to adjusting the base rates - eventually - if property values go up all over the city, but the observed affect, so far, is increased taxes.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 16, 2012, 05:38:17 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2012, 05:36:58 PM
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Crack shack.
I understand a person from Edmonton would have difficulty recognizing where a team that makes the playoffs plays its games.
Interesting fact: 5 cups is more than 0.
Quote from: Malthus on April 16, 2012, 06:22:02 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 16, 2012, 06:15:12 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 16, 2012, 06:12:07 PM
I'm not really enjoying - I don't see any real upside to me of real estate prices wildly increasing, as I don't have any plans to sell and move (elsewhere). All it is likely to do is result in increased tax assessments on the one hand, and increased chances that the market will crash and burn with bad economic consequences on the other. :lol:
If all prices rise relatively equally you will not have an increase in property taxes. The problem comes if your property rises faster than others.
I dunno. My tax bill is a straight calculation based on assessed property values. I suppose they get around to adjusting the base rates - eventually - if property values go up all over the city, but the observed affect, so far, is increased taxes.
More evidence the GTA is screwed up.
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2012, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 16, 2012, 05:38:17 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2012, 05:36:58 PM
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Crack shack.
I understand a person from Edmonton would have difficulty recognizing where a team that makes the playoffs plays its games.
Interesting fact: 5 cups is more than 0.
Another Edmontonian resting on the laurels of Wayne Gretzky and the 1980s. :bleeding:
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2012, 09:28:38 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2012, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 16, 2012, 05:38:17 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2012, 05:36:58 PM
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Crack shack.
I understand a person from Edmonton would have difficulty recognizing where a team that makes the playoffs plays its games.
Interesting fact: 5 cups is more than 0.
Another Edmontonian resting on the laurels of Wayne Gretzky and the 1980s. :bleeding:
CC desperately wants me to be that guy, so I guess I'll oblige him.
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2012, 09:59:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 16, 2012, 09:28:38 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2012, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 16, 2012, 05:38:17 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2012, 05:36:58 PM
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Crack shack.
I understand a person from Edmonton would have difficulty recognizing where a team that makes the playoffs plays its games.
Interesting fact: 5 cups is more than 0.
Another Edmontonian resting on the laurels of Wayne Gretzky and the 1980s. :bleeding:
CC desperately wants me to be that guy, so I guess I'll oblige him.
Fair enough. :)
So I finally played the game and, well, holy shit.
Dieback now.
P.S.: in this regard, Seattle is different from Vancouver, right? Right.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 16, 2012, 11:00:05 PM
So I finally played the game and, well, holy shit.
Dieback now.
P.S.: in this regard, Seattle is different from Vancouver, right? Right.
Yes, it is less lovely.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 16, 2012, 08:05:51 PM
More evidence the GTA is screwed up.
How do they work property taxes in the paradise of Vancouver? :huh:
Quote from: Ideologue on April 16, 2012, 11:00:05 PM
P.S.: in this regard, Seattle is different from Vancouver, right? Right.
Are you planning a move to Seattle or something?
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2012, 09:59:18 PM
CC enjoys laughing at me playing the part of the typical Northern Albertan dreaming of the glory days (since Edmontonians have nothing else to fill our empty lives), so I guess I'll oblige him.
FYP
Quote from: Malthus on April 17, 2012, 07:54:01 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 16, 2012, 08:05:51 PM
More evidence the GTA is screwed up.
How do they work property taxes in the paradise of Vancouver? :huh:
Apparently Vancouver is a paradise for a number of reasons.
If property prices go up 30% that does not mean that somehow the city's revenues go up 30%. The city produces a budget of expenditures and creates a mill rate that will generate that tax. If the budget remains the same year over year (Yeah I know not going to happen but it helps demonstrate the point) then even if all property values increased 30%, the amount of tax paid remains the same. As I said, if all other things are equal the only way you pay more tax is if your property increased in value more than other properties.
I thought everyone did it this way but a quick google search shows that Ontario moved away from this system and it looks like seven different categories of property were created and each of them are taxed differently. So yeah, I stand by my original statement.
Quote from: garbon on April 16, 2012, 11:02:06 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 16, 2012, 11:00:05 PM
So I finally played the game and, well, holy shit.
Dieback now.
P.S.: in this regard, Seattle is different from Vancouver, right? Right.
Yes, it is less lovely.
Most of the "crack shacks" in that survey where not actually from Vancouver.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 17, 2012, 11:27:58 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 17, 2012, 07:54:01 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 16, 2012, 08:05:51 PM
More evidence the GTA is screwed up.
How do they work property taxes in the paradise of Vancouver? :huh:
Apparently Vancouver is a paradise for a number of reasons.
If property prices go up 30% that does not mean that somehow the city's revenues go up 30%. The city produces a budget of expenditures and creates a mill rate that will generate that tax. If the budget remains the same year over year (Yeah I know not going to happen but it helps demonstrate the point) then even if all property values increased 30%, the amount of tax paid remains the same. As I said, if all other things are equal the only way you pay more tax is if your property increased in value more than other properties.
I thought everyone did it this way but a quick google search shows that Ontario moved away from this system and it looks like seven different categories of property were created and each of them are taxed differently. So yeah, I stand by my original statement.
I dunno how Ontario municipalities adjust the base rate for residential properties.
Considering that property values have been rising in Toronto at much more than the rate of inflation, and yet Toronto *still* is chronically underfunded in spite of the Ford Bros. cutting such stuff as libraries, I assume it has
some sort of adjustment factor.
Quote from: Jacob on April 17, 2012, 11:33:55 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 16, 2012, 11:02:06 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 16, 2012, 11:00:05 PM
So I finally played the game and, well, holy shit.
Dieback now.
P.S.: in this regard, Seattle is different from Vancouver, right? Right.
Yes, it is less lovely.
Most of the "crack shacks" in that survey where not actually from Vancouver.
I think he means Seattle is less lovely than Vancouver.
Considering many of the crackhouses looked as nice as the Vancouver houses that doesn't really matter anyway.
Quote from: Malthus on April 17, 2012, 12:44:01 PM
Considering that property values have been rising in Toronto at much more than the rate of inflation, and yet Toronto *still* is chronically underfunded in spite of the Ford Bros. cutting such stuff as libraries, I assume it has some sort of adjustment factor.
Perhaps, if your first comment was accurate:
QuoteI dunno. My tax bill is a straight calculation based on assessed property values. I suppose they get around to adjusting the base rates - eventually - if property values go up all over the city, but the observed affect, so far, is increased taxes.
whatever system they use doesnt work very well.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 17, 2012, 12:49:04 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 17, 2012, 12:44:01 PM
Considering that property values have been rising in Toronto at much more than the rate of inflation, and yet Toronto *still* is chronically underfunded in spite of the Ford Bros. cutting such stuff as libraries, I assume it has some sort of adjustment factor.
Perhaps, if your first comment was accurate:
QuoteI dunno. My tax bill is a straight calculation based on assessed property values. I suppose they get around to adjusting the base rates - eventually - if property values go up all over the city, but the observed affect, so far, is increased taxes.
whatever system they use doesnt work very well.
Well, yes.
What I don't know is how Vancouver fares - that is, whether it works better there.
There a whole bunch of factors I don't know - for example, I don't know the relative increase in values in various bits of my city, and thus whether my values are increasing at a rate greater than them or not, much less the same for Vancouver.
I have simply observed that increased assessed value tends to result in increased taxes.
Quote from: Malthus on April 17, 2012, 12:44:52 PMI think he means Seattle is less lovely than Vancouver.
That's what I thought as well. I wasn't arguing with garbon.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 17, 2012, 12:47:50 PM
Considering many of the crackhouses looked as nice as the Vancouver houses that doesn't really matter anyway.
Plenty of nice houses in Vancouver. Just not for a piffling million dollars. :lol:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 17, 2012, 12:47:50 PM
Considering many of the crackhouses looked as nice as the Vancouver houses that doesn't really matter anyway.
It's all in the value of the lot and the neighbourhood. Those houses are most likely getting torn down and rebuilt.
When we bought our teardown, the assessed value of the house itself was 1.2% of the purchase price.
This thread has been bad karma for me. It turns out that a friend of a friend has moved into the big city and is looking for a place to rent on the North Shore. Mrs. CC - ever the one to lend a helping hand - would like to offer our suite. I will have to make do with the area left over.
edit: bullet dodged. Carry on.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 17, 2012, 01:18:13 PM
This thread has been bad karma for me. It turns out that a friend of a friend has moved into the big city and is looking for a place to rent on the North Shore. Mrs. CC - ever the one to lend a helping hand - would like to offer our suite. I will have to make do with the area left over.
edit: bullet dodged. Carry on.
Awww, I was about to suggest a zany, sitcomesque plan involving inviting a selection of the more obnoxious Languishites to stay at your place when this "renter" showed up, and convincing him he'd have to share the house with them.
I never get to try my zany plans. :(
Quote from: Jacob on April 17, 2012, 12:53:52 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 17, 2012, 12:44:52 PMI think he means Seattle is less lovely than Vancouver.
That's what I thought as well. I wasn't arguing with garbon.
Okay yeah, I like Vancouver better than Seattle but that's worthy of note, what you added.
I like Seattle. But I am not sure I would want to live there. Great place to visit though.
I enjoy Seattle and several other cities in North America, but Vancouver is home. Were I to move elsewhere it would be for reasons other than the city I'd be moving to, basically money or a really great opportunity and it'd have to be good.
Mayor weighs in on local controversy: http://www.mayorofvancouver.ca/?p=2319
Summary: someone was going to build a big highrise in my area. A bunch of NIMBY types threw fits and organized against it. Developer compromised some, scaled down a bit. There was a meeting, the mayor essentially said "suck it up, we get some money for arts and low income housing which we wouldn't have got otherwise and high density is not a bad thing."
... which makes sense to me.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 17, 2012, 08:35:16 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 16, 2012, 11:00:05 PM
P.S.: in this regard, Seattle is different from Vancouver, right? Right.
Are you planning a move to Seattle or something?
A dream deferred is a dream denied. :(
Quote from: Ideologue on April 17, 2012, 08:32:34 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 17, 2012, 08:35:16 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 16, 2012, 11:00:05 PM
P.S.: in this regard, Seattle is different from Vancouver, right? Right.
Are you planning a move to Seattle or something?
A dream deferred is a dream denied. :(
Like every city, Seattle has the good neighborhoods and the bad. I predict you will feel most at home in Fremont.
And this is why....
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F4%2F47%2FLenin-statue-in-Fremont.jpg%2F534px-Lenin-statue-in-Fremont.jpg&hash=862a9d394919fd766f7b4c07801028014633b014)
:P
Disgusting. :mad:
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 17, 2012, 09:19:04 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 17, 2012, 08:32:34 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 17, 2012, 08:35:16 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 16, 2012, 11:00:05 PM
P.S.: in this regard, Seattle is different from Vancouver, right? Right.
Are you planning a move to Seattle or something?
A dream deferred is a dream denied. :(
Like every city, Seattle has the good neighborhoods and the bad. I predict you will feel most at home in Fremont.
And this is why....
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F4%2F47%2FLenin-statue-in-Fremont.jpg%2F534px-Lenin-statue-in-Fremont.jpg&hash=862a9d394919fd766f7b4c07801028014633b014)
:P
Oh. My. God.
If that was paid for with taxes, then it truly is the greatest city in the world.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 17, 2012, 09:36:03 PM
If that was paid for with taxes, then it truly is the greatest city in the world.
I am pretty sure the homemade Italian goods sign was paid for by the shop keeper.
Well, it even has it's own Wiki article. :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin,_Seattle
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 17, 2012, 10:35:20 PM
Well, it even has it's own Wiki article. :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin,_Seattle
QuoteThe statue was constructed by a Slovak Bulgarian sculptor, Emil Venkov, under commission from the Soviet and Czechoslovak governments. While following the bounds of his commission, Venkov intended to portray Lenin as a bringer of revolution, in contrast to the traditional portrayals of Lenin as a philosopher and educator. His Lenin marches ahead fiercely, surrounded by torrid flames and symbols of war.
Yes! Well, foreign taxes. Close enough.
Ide would clearly like my old neighborhood. International district has all the yellow fever hotties he could handle.
Elaborate.
One half isn't that many. -_- :P
Quote from: Zoupa on April 18, 2012, 12:40:56 AM
Elaborate.
It is Seattle's Asian town.
According to the 2000 census, the International District is 56% Asian, 15% black, 15% white, and 5% Hispanic/Latino.
The neighborhood is multiethnic, consisting mainly of people who are of Chinese, Japanese, and Filipino ethnicity.
There are also significant populations of people who are of Vietnamese, Korean, Thai, Laotian, Cambodian, and Pacific Islander descent, as well as other communities.
He should go to the Eastside/Bellevue then...only about 30% Asian, but they're richer...he can find an Asian Sugar Momma and laud communism while sitting in the lap of luxury as God intended. :P
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 18, 2012, 06:17:52 PM
He should go to the Eastside/Bellevue then...only about 30% Asian, but they're richer...he can find an Asian Sugar Momma and laud communism while sitting in the lap of luxury as God intended. :P
No lie. This is pretty much exactly what it says in the Bible.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 17, 2012, 08:32:34 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 17, 2012, 08:35:16 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 16, 2012, 11:00:05 PM
P.S.: in this regard, Seattle is different from Vancouver, right? Right.
Are you planning a move to Seattle or something?
A dream deferred is a dream denied. :(
I dreamed of moving to New York when I graduated high school but deferred that for 7 years and now I'm here. :unsure:
Yeah, but you were still young enough to get in under the wire.