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Title: MS Flight is a joke and sucks: the X-Plane 10 thread
Post by: Caliga on February 28, 2012, 08:41:36 PM
http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/ (http://www.microsoft.com/games/flight/)

The idea is you'll download the simulator and then pay for things like scenery and planes in micro-installments.
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Ed Anger on February 28, 2012, 08:57:34 PM
I'll pay for the WTC DLC.
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Caliga on February 28, 2012, 09:01:03 PM
 :sleep:

Yep, I never did that. :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Ed Anger on February 28, 2012, 09:03:12 PM
Reported.
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 28, 2012, 09:04:56 PM
Makes me want one of those little Icon A5 amphibians.
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Caliga on February 28, 2012, 09:07:38 PM
I want my Mooney Acclaim back. :(
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Jacob on February 28, 2012, 11:16:19 PM
My buddy is a hard core flight sim guy and makes his money making DLC planes for flight sim.

EDIT: or rather he makes a bit of money making one plane on the side: http://www.baytower.ca/
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: DGuller on February 28, 2012, 11:21:51 PM
So, how does this work?  Taking off is free, but you have to pay to land?
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: garbon on February 28, 2012, 11:25:17 PM
Quote from: DGuller on February 28, 2012, 11:21:51 PM
So, how does this work?  Taking off is free, but you have to pay to land?

Sounds like RyanAir's business model. :(
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Fireblade on February 29, 2012, 12:43:46 AM
Quote from: DGuller on February 28, 2012, 11:21:51 PM
So, how does this work?  Taking off is free, but you have to pay to land?

I always knew Bill Gates was secretly an Islamist terror-sympathizer.. or should I say, MULLAH WILLIAM SHABAZZ MALIK AL-GATES?
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Caliga on March 10, 2012, 09:27:01 PM
I'm already a bit bored with just the island of Hawaii to fly around over.  In FSX I used to like to fly from Kentucky to Florida when it was winter, and from Kentucky to the Smokies when it was summer. :)  I hope they release continental US scenery soon.
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Caliga on July 23, 2012, 05:37:50 PM
So Flight turned out to be a total fiasco.  Anyway, I bought X-Plane 10 and just got it in the mail. :cool:
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: The Brain on July 23, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: Caliga on July 23, 2012, 05:37:50 PM
So Flight turned out to be a total fiasco.  Anyway, I bought X-Plane 10 and just got it in the mail. :cool:

Why was Flight a fiasco and is X-Plane 10 awesome?
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Caliga on July 24, 2012, 01:08:29 PM
Flight is great if you like flying around on the big island of Hawaii and nowhere else except Alaska (for which you pay like $30).

I don't know if X-Plane is awesome yet, since I just installed it last night and have yet to configure my flight stick, etc.  I did fly around the Louisville area a bit and can tell you that it has the local road network and topography pretty much exactly correct.... flying in and out of SDF looks 'right' so far as that is concerned.  It's also a lot faster/better framerate and the graphics are a generation better.  One thing that's lacking right now across the product is airport-level detail... the runways and taxiways at SDF are accurate, but there are no buildings at all.  I haven't looked for add-on scenery yet but it wouldn't surprise me if someone has corrected it.
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Caliga on July 24, 2012, 09:34:42 PM
Also, my ancient Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 joystick is compatible with it, including the throttle lever and twist yaw control. :cool:

I took off from SDF and navigated to my house strictly by using the road network... it had basically every road along the way, including even my subdivision.  Impressive. :showoff:
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: PRC on July 24, 2012, 11:41:06 PM
It's not the MS sim but I have DCS Black Shark and it's tough as shit.  I'd love to get their A-10C game but it requires so much time just to learn how to start the bird that I never got it.
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Syt on July 24, 2012, 11:57:04 PM
Quote from: Caliga on July 24, 2012, 09:34:42 PM
Also, my ancient Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 joystick is compatible with it, including the throttle lever and twist yaw control. :cool:

I took off from SDF and navigated to my house strictly by using the road network... it had basically every road along the way, including even my subdivision.  Impressive. :showoff:

Please continue to share your impressions. :)
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: katmai on July 25, 2012, 02:47:26 AM
Quote from: PRC on July 24, 2012, 11:41:06 PM
It's not the MS sim but I have DCS Black Shark and it's tough as shit.  I'd love to get their A-10C game but it requires so much time just to learn how to start the bird that I never got it.

Yeah i picked up the A-10, now need to spend the money for good controllers system :D
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Caliga on July 26, 2012, 05:33:02 AM
Ha, Microsoft just announced that they're cancelling further development of Flight.
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on July 26, 2012, 07:35:12 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 26, 2012, 05:33:02 AM
Ha, Microsoft just announced that they're cancelling further development of Flight.

So...no more Flight Simulator and no more Flight?   :(
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: DontSayBanana on July 26, 2012, 07:55:08 AM
Damn.  Here's hoping modders keep FSX alive, at least. :(
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Caliga on July 26, 2012, 07:09:38 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on July 26, 2012, 07:35:12 AM
So...no more Flight Simulator and no more Flight?   :(
I don't think they've officially said no more "ever", but it seems like a good possibility.
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Syt on July 27, 2012, 03:27:22 AM
So how's your opinion of the new X-Plane so far? I think about pulling the trigger on this one.
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: Caliga on July 27, 2012, 04:55:59 AM
Quote from: Syt on July 27, 2012, 03:27:22 AM
So how's your opinion of the new X-Plane so far? I think about pulling the trigger on this one.
Have only spent like an hour messing with it.... been working crazy hours this week.
Title: Re: Microsoft's newest Flight Simulator, MS Flight, available for free download
Post by: The Brain on July 27, 2012, 05:04:06 AM
wai
Title: Re: MS Flight is a joke and sucks: the X-Plane 10 thread
Post by: Caliga on August 22, 2012, 07:23:41 PM
Thread topic updated.

I was playing X-Plane the other day and have a couple of observations:

1.  My joystick is only intermittently working it at all... usually Win 7 will not recognize it's been plugged in.  I think I'm finally going to go apeshit and buy the Saitek Pro Flight Cessna 'system'... basically a full scale repro of a Cessna yoke and throttle quadrant, which you can buy endless addons for: rudder pedals, radio stacks, etc.  I found a YouTube video the other day this nigga put up who has pumped $10,000 into his flightsim hobby.  I don't think I'll go quite THAT far, though.

2.  I was flying a Cirrus TheJet (with the mouse  :yuk: ), which is an interesting experience since it's the size of a Cessna but cruises at around 350 knots.  Anyway, I saw a heavy in the skies over Louisville and was actually able to catch up to it, which is something I've never done in a simulator before since it's generally not even close to possible due to the speed differential.  It turned out to be a 747 painted in... NASA livery that seemed to be circling over the city. :area52:

I got right behind it and was amazed that the sim actually registered that I was caught in the 747's jet wash!  I was able to get close enough to see the exhaust from two of the wing engines, and then was hit with the jet wash turbulence and sent spinning out of control.... the g forces also caused my virtual pilot to black out, but amazingly I was able to recover and avoided a crash.  Anyway, it was one of those "wow, I can't believe they actually modeled that" sort of simulator experiences. :cool:

Also, the entire time the TCAS (collision detection) system in my Cirrus was going off, which was cool... I don't think FSX ever attempted to model that.
Title: Re: MS Flight is a joke and sucks: the X-Plane 10 thread
Post by: Syt on August 22, 2012, 11:01:48 PM
I read that most airports aren't rendered with any buildings at all, and that the landscape is a bit dodgy unless you fly in great heights?
Title: Re: MS Flight is a joke and sucks: the X-Plane 10 thread
Post by: Caliga on August 23, 2012, 06:59:55 PM
Correct, most airports are just a simple runway and taxiways.  I will say that the airports around Louisville at least have accurately rendered runways, but it's just the runway and nothing else which is a bit of a downer.  New scenery has been gradually coming out, though, and I expect the pace will increase now that MS Flight is officially dead.

Not sure about the landscape being dodgy... sometimes the rendering of cities is a little odd in that you will see large 'parks' in the middle of them, but the road layout for Louisville is basically 100% accurate.  So it's like the sim sometimes guesses wrong about whether an area would be built up or not.  However, subdivisions look nice and realistic, and the highways are very well done in that you can see highway signs on them, they have nice lighting at night, etc.  Also, the simulated traffic looks good and even includes nice touches like the occasional police car/ambulance zooming by with lights on.