Hello languish! I've been doing a great deal of the introspection to which I am so fond. I am in Memphis, and with precious little internet and visitation to Midtown, which seems a misremembered echo more than a place, I have been thinking about myself, my goals in life, and how this year has been.
It was a tough year. Just over a year ago I became single, and attendant to this was a change in my life goals. Being my father's son, the lawyer, lost its last appeal. It came to occupy a tragedy comparable to Ottomanism, utterly unable to answer the destabilization of nationalism and genuine ambitions on my part.
With my future career in doubt, I gave thought to being a professor. However, this was the year my Japanophilia boiled into a fever pitch- I had previously played visual novels, watched some anime, enjoyed reading about Japanese history, and had a good opinion of their culture. But this year it was institutionalized. Tea was imported, classes were taken, weekly quotas of cultural consumption were set. Japanese literature, anime, and strange philosophy- I found myself inundated. I still find myself inundated.
It was at this backdrop that I made my Vision Quest to the West. There I met real friends, who I speak to and get on well with even now. Influential figures who had embraced Japan already, albeit that it was an entirely Chinese circle.
The vision quest made me tired. I returned to Memphis a weary man who felt he had journeyed too far, and too much. Utah rejected me, to my sorrow. I returned with the doctrine of the Yukkuri, though. Everything must be slow, considered, and relaxed. Calm and tranquility can be achieved by modest ambitions, the avoidance of crisis or disagreement, and avoidance of luxury and the public eye. I found in this the expression of aspects of Southern life I had admired, and the reassuring answer to terrors of work that my father's example inspired in me.
In this year I had no real guidance. My father was and is sorely missed, but the Missus's mother was a loss as well. Planning a life around caring for the dear missus was a welcome tether. I did most everything myself this year.
Japanophilia and longstanding disaffection has led to me applying for my passport. The JET program, travel studies abroad, & etc all call to me. I'll happily work in a konbini if that is what is needed. I no longer desire anything more than the wage to live a very modest life, but it must be done in the sacred isles. America is no place for the intelligentsia.
I suppose at this point the future certainly is in Japan. Is it a single future? After feeble attempts to replace the missus, my longstanding prudishness, with the support of some of Japan's more fringe notions, has led to me renouncing physical desire. I do my best, and I regret to say I don't trust women as much as I should. Well, we'll see. My friends pressure me to try again when I am in the sacred isles, but it will suit me if I do not as well. Desire is the source of suffering, and I do my best to limit it. A quiet life less reliant on other people has less chance of disruption.
The (comparatively recent) decision to go to Japan on a permanent basis has been a salvation. Prior to that I had for a period of some months decided suicide was the best course, and I was preparing affairs re: the questing beast and a great work to make matters ready for my departure. I still don't loathe suicide, and gain much comfort from the idea that, not being greatly attached to life, I am in no position to be threatened by the loss of it. I fear unpleasant deaths, but removal from this world holds no horrors for me. It is an assurance comparable to what the piously religious feel, I believe.
Pursuit of this great work was primarily manifested in the form of sonnets I put tremendous expenditures of effort into- but these I have ultimately destroyed. Languish panned the quality of the fraction I published, and ultimately I wearied of the idea of making them in the absence of my mortality pushing me onward. I sent what I had to the questing beast, and then deleted them all from my computer.
Tea and the Yukkuri agree with me. Those close to me say they have been a calming influence, and indeed I feel myself much less hateful than I used to be. I am angry far less often, and primarily move from doldrums to euphoria. I spend enormous amounts of time sleeping, and other times am so happy I want to cry. This I share with my beautiful roommate, who has been my primary support. I am not sure I could do him enough justice.
So, I am going abroad, languish- joining that strange languish outremer that seems to be single-handedly trying to revive the western concession in the orient. I think 2012-2013 should be a much better year than what preceded it. If nothing else, I hope to make it to Japan before January of 2014.
Thanks kindly to y'all for your support- It is wonderful to have someone to talk to, where everyone knows you and you know everyone. I don't imagine i'll leave languish as long as it exists.
Good luck.
Say, does your father, the lawyer, need a replacement son?
No, I don't suppose so :)
You could be a true comfort to my grandfather in his old age, however. Willing to work the farm and go to baptist church on sunday?
Quote from: Ideologue on February 25, 2012, 11:55:52 PM
Good luck.
Say, does your father, the lawyer, need a replacement son?
Being dead, I'm pretty sure he's doesn't care.
Yikes. Awkward. Sorry, Lettow.
I misread that, and thought you just missed, you know, living at home. Well, I am a perfect ass.
No offense at all. :) The greatest pain was sympathy-embarrassment for your sake. I abhor awkwardness and do my best to avoid other people feeling it when possible.
There isn't really a home anymore. A lack of one was one of the main factors to the VISION QUEST TO THE WEST. It is in some ways a blessing- with no ties that bind of any sort to anyone to speak of, I am free to do whatever I want, be it travel to the other side of the world permanently or kill myself, as the mood takes me. Other people have social obligations that I lack. At this point, I am my primary obligation.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 25, 2012, 11:55:52 PM
Good luck.
Say, does your father, the lawyer, need a replacement son?
"And he opens the round with a judo chop straight to the solar plexus...that's gotta sting, Mel!"
"Yes, Jim, but Lettow's taken more than that in life, this kid's a gamer!"
So, the demographic of Languish is transforming into
25% lawyers
25% homosexuals
25% English teachers in Asia
25% "other"
Quote from: Syt on February 26, 2012, 02:53:58 AM
So, the demographic of Languish is transforming into
25% lawyers
25% homosexuals
25% English teachers in Asia
25% "other"
Lot of overlapping sets.
Ide is gonna cover 3/4ths of it soon.
Quote from: katmai on February 26, 2012, 03:10:23 AM
Ide is gonna cover 3/4ths of it soon.
I dunno, I think he's pretty adamantly heterosexual.
Korea was clearly a beard.
I think I've been pretty clear that if homosexuality was a possibility, I'd be on that like Martinus on toes. Gay guys have got it made in the shade. Oppressed? Yeah, oppressed like a fox.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 26, 2012, 03:40:56 AM
I think I've been pretty clear that if homosexuality was a possibility, I'd be on that like Martinus on toes. Gay guys have got it made in the shade. Oppressed? Yeah, oppressed like a fox.
Yeah, the whole "we don't argue over the remote" stuff and all the easy sex makes the occasional chance for hate-crime victimization worth it.
Yeah good luck, even if Jet doesn't work out its apparently pretty damn easy to find a low grade English teaching job in the bigger cities.
Now is the time to be looking into private hires like interac and the like, the school year is ending and the new one due to start in a month or two- the wait for Jet is agonising enough from sending in your application let alone to be waiting most of a year for it to open....
QuoteSo, the demographic of Languish is transforming into
25% lawyers
25% homosexuals
25% English teachers in Asia
25% "other"
The English teachers seem to have bumped the Scandinavians. :bowler:
Interlac? The future is truly now.
Legion of Super-Heroes reference.
Good luck Lettow. :)
Quote from: Ideologue on February 26, 2012, 04:26:46 AM
Legion of Super-Heroes reference.
I had to look up what that is.
Now: ah.
Personally I think it's a mistake to plan a career doing this ESL stuff abroad. It's one thing to do it if you're out of options but another to actively try to do it as a career. The people that I've known that have done it and then come back stateside haven't ever been able to parlay it into any kind of career. :mellow:
The ones who do parlay it into a career probably do so over there.
Its not a career no.
It pays alright and is a decent little job, better than standard uneducated work. Which is totally livable. But there's not much room for advancement even if you do want to teach all your life (Which I certainly don't).
As a way to earn a bit of money and do something interesting rather than sitting around being depressed and unemployed though it is pretty good. Lets you work on your language skills too.
Quote from: Tyr on February 26, 2012, 08:58:08 AM
As a way to earn a bit of money and do something interesting rather than sitting around being depressed and unemployed though it is pretty good.
Yeah don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to knock it... I just think it's a bit odd to actively plan a career doing that as Lettuce seems to be.
Oh, I know there aren't many opportunities for advancement.
To be clear, I want to go to Japan and never leave. The work i'll be doing is secondary- english teaching is just an excellent way to get my foot in the door.
Earnings are almost a non-issue. If I can live in an apartment and pay for internet and tea, i'll be content. Nothing I enjoy doing costs much money. The outer fringe of luxury spending would be having a cat. :)
Stifling desire and learning to be content with modest economic means is more sure and secure than grandioise plans. Most more lucrative paths have as a damning indictment against them that they require me to stay in America. America: Not even once :(
Edit: Brain, your frequent kind affirmations are not unnoticed, but most welcome. It may not seem like much, but it's pleasant to be told to get well soon when you are sick, or be wished well in some new venture. I appreciate it. Um, want a sonnet?
Have you ever been outside the country?
there was THE VISION QUEST TO THE WEST, which took me beyond the vale of the sacred South. I've lived a fairly provincial life.
So what makes you think you'll find in Japan the thing you couldn't find in Utah?
Oh ho, I might not! But I have expectations of being able to find housing and employment in Japan- it is a trip launched with much greater care than the one to Deseret.
Also, "more welcoming than Utah mormons" isn't hard to achieve. I've been oversatured with japanese -things- much more so than LDS, and find it more agreeable. I expect no Elysium in Japan, just a quiet life that doesn't offend my sensibilities. I ask for very little, and I anticipate finding it there. If I don't, i'll review my options, but for sure I won't come back to America.
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 26, 2012, 11:52:29 AM
To be clear, I want to go to Japan and never leave. The work i'll be doing is secondary- english teaching is just an excellent way to get my foot in the door.
Earnings are almost a non-issue. If I can live in an apartment and pay for internet and tea, i'll be content. Nothing I enjoy doing costs much money. The outer fringe of luxury spending would be having a cat. :)
Lettow, your writing style reminds me far too much of those writers who were just waiting for an opportunity to kill themselves. Which is worrying.
The only thing I can recommend for you is to try to circumvent English teaching - which will not make you very close to the Japanese - and have a more 'normal' job in Japan. Those jobs require deep confraternization between co-workers (i.e. getting dead drunk with your colleages every night after work), are immensely enjoyed by the Japanese and can do wonders to keep your desire to live going. All my Japanese opposites love them, and thankfully I am a person who loves to debate politics, finance, women, food and jokes while drinking copiously, which is a trait that helps a lot when dealing with them. But, then again, I am not as poetic as you are.
And whatever you do, don't talk about anime with working adults. EVER. Act as if you didn't even knew it existed. Concentrate on 'adult people' themes. It will all end up with silly drunken jokes anyway, so you're bound to do well.
In the end, your vision of the world will become quite relaxed by the end of the day and you may get the enjoyment you want out of life.
Quote from: Martim Silva on February 26, 2012, 12:14:11 PM
And whatever you do, don't talk about anime with working adults. EVER. Act as if you didn't even knew it existed. Concentrate on 'adult people' themes. It will all end up with silly drunken jokes anyway, so you're bound to do well.
No worries at all on that score. Hiding the power level is a sacred trust in most settings. Only closest confidants and languish must know.
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 26, 2012, 12:10:43 PM
Also, "more welcoming than Utah mormons" isn't hard to achieve. I've been oversatured with japanese -things- much more so than LDS, and find it more agreeable. I expect no Elysium in Japan, just a quiet life that doesn't offend my sensibilities. I ask for very little, and I anticipate finding it there. If I don't, i'll review my options, but for sure I won't come back to America.
:lol: Thing is, you don't even realize that you'll be offending Japanese sensibilities. They will look down upon you far worse than you do with the niggers of the South, Round Eyes.
Too funny. Go ahead, go live with people who will barely tolerate you with just enough contempt for you to notice.
Oh, don't worry. I don't plan to claim equality or anything but an inferior station. I won't be uppity- i'll slavishly reaffirm their suspicions of their own superiority while taking a servile role within their society. It's a unique opportunity to be an uncle remus figure.
That said, I'll do my best to keep my head down and not be TOO much of a hairy barbarian.
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 26, 2012, 12:40:36 PM
It's a unique opportunity to be an uncle remus figure.
:lmfao: That line was hilarious to me for some reason.
Lettow in Japan:
http://fumaga.com/i/you-came-to-the-wrong-neighborhood-motherfucker.jpg
NSFW
The relationship between the Japanese and foreigners is a very strange one. On one hand the Japanese can be easily persuaded to embrace foreign culture. There is often an element of "if it is foreign; it must be better."
On the other hand the level of xenophobia in Japanese society is very great.
Quote from: Martim Silva on February 26, 2012, 12:14:11 PM
The only thing I can recommend for you is to try to circumvent English teaching - which will not make you very close to the Japanese - and have a more 'normal' job in Japan. Those jobs require deep confraternization between co-workers (i.e. getting dead drunk with your colleages every night after work), are immensely enjoyed by the Japanese and can do wonders to keep your desire to live going. All my Japanese opposites love them, and thankfully I am a person who loves to debate politics, finance, women, food and jokes while drinking copiously, which is a trait that helps a lot when dealing with them. But, then again, I am not as poetic as you are.
Getting a real job in Japan is a lot easier said than done. Most English teachers here wish for such a thing but it is apparently really difficult.
Which is a big shame :(
(my memory is hazy but....did you once have such a thing? If so...how on earth?)
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And whatever you do, don't talk about anime with working adults. EVER. Act as if you didn't even knew it existed. Concentrate on 'adult people' themes. It will all end up with silly drunken jokes anyway, so you're bound to do well.
Hmm....its variable. Varies from person to person really. Though generally small conversations about famous stuff like Studio Ghibli is acceptible as is classic old stuff like Astro Boy and Lupin.
Anime nerds are widely hated but liking the occasional bit of mainstream anime is fine.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 26, 2012, 02:49:52 AM
"And he opens the round with a judo chop straight to the solar plexus...that's gotta sting, Mel!"
"Yes, Jim, but Lettow's taken more than that in life, this kid's a gamer!"
You are off course aware there are no jabs in Judo, no kicks, no hits of any kind? Only throws, grabs and holds?
V
Quote from: Valdemar on February 27, 2012, 04:53:23 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 26, 2012, 02:49:52 AM
"And he opens the round with a judo chop straight to the solar plexus...that's gotta sting, Mel!"
"Yes, Jim, but Lettow's taken more than that in life, this kid's a gamer!"
You are off course aware there are no jabs in Judo, no kicks, no hits of any kind? Only throws, grabs and holds?
V
I think you should throw your tongue into my hairy bunghole. Judo style.
Come try it steroid boy and I'll test how far my 12 y old son can toss you :D
V
Quote from: Valdemar on February 27, 2012, 07:20:12 AM
Come try it steroid boy and I'll test how far my 12 y old son can toss you :D
V
He's going to try and force you to stick your tongue up his butt? :unsure:
Quote from: garbon on February 27, 2012, 07:37:26 AM
Quote from: Valdemar on February 27, 2012, 07:20:12 AM
Come try it steroid boy and I'll test how far my 12 y old son can toss you :D
V
He's going to try and force you to stick your tongue up his butt? :unsure:
That seems to be what he is suggesting yes... I think he will find that i'm unwilling to participate, and as such I'll let my son practise judo on him, which should be doable, but Im not sure how far he can make him fly..
He will land hard though :menace: my son is quite skilled...
V
Bringing children into a sex act? :thumbsdown:
Anyway, Seedy was making an offer not a demand.
I can always trust you Garbon to turn a physical threat into an offer of sex :lmfao:
V
I guess I don't find asses that intimidating. :unsure:
Quote from: Tyr on February 27, 2012, 02:52:49 AM
Getting a real job in Japan is a lot easier said than done. Most English teachers here wish for such a thing but it is apparently really difficult.
Which is a big shame :(
(my memory is hazy but....did you once have such a thing? If so...how on earth?)
I didn't have a 'japanese' job, but my work has both made me go to Japan several times and has also made my Japanese colleagues join me for work elsewhere in the planet on occasion. That pretty much made me deal with them rather extensively.
Thus said, that 'outside yet now here' status pretty much allowed me to avoid the whole 'integrated into Japan' thing, even though I felt no culture clash [40 years of anime and manga did seem to have an effect]. Thank goodness the local cuisine has so many meat dishes. I would never have survived if Japanese cooking was indeed the all-raw-fish thing that some people think it is. Shame about the small portions, though. They force me to often get seconds (today I know why they think foreigners eat a lot).
What I have particularly noted about the Japanese it that they lack confidence. Though they'll never admit it and like to tell themselves otherwise, the Japanese inherently feel that, even if they are good in Japan, they stand to be quite the losers when facing (white) foreigners. I use this to full effect, becoming the exact opposite of humble with them. It both fuels their expectations on how a foreigner acts (their idea of a non-Asian foreigner is based on Americans) and lets me dominate whatever it is that I need to do. They can jointly handle whatever reports they need to present by themselves later (since they love to do things by consensus, to share eventual blame).
Also, they have an unique ability to be fresh for work at 8AM even if they drank until late hours last night. :huh:
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Hmm....its variable. Varies from person to person really. Though generally small conversations about famous stuff like Studio Ghibli is acceptible as is classic old stuff like Astro Boy and Lupin.
Anime nerds are widely hated but liking the occasional bit of mainstream anime is fine.
I believe Ghibli is indeed acceptable, in a "I once saw Mononoke Hime win an Oscar" or "When I was a kid I saw Nausicaä", but that's about all I would have dared to speak about, if I had ever spoken about anime. Which I didn't.
Y'know what you should do? Open a restaurant specializing in Southern cuisine. Encourage the emergence of Japafats. :showoff:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 27, 2012, 12:51:31 PM
Y'know what you should do? Open a restaurant specializing in Southern cuisine. Encourage the emergence of Japafats. :showoff:
That's.. not a bad idea. Aren't Japanese people REALLY into KFC? Fuck, you could totally pull it off dude.
By the way Lettow: A good friend of mine recently went to Japan in the JET program. She seems to like it quite a bit. But then again, she's a weeaboo like you, so it's not unexpected.
I think it was China that had OFC.
Quote from: garbon on February 27, 2012, 01:14:46 PM
I think it was China that had OFC.
Oh here we go: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/World/move-santa-claus-kfcs-colonel-sanders-signals-christmas/story?id=12437818 (http://abcnews.go.com/Business/World/move-santa-claus-kfcs-colonel-sanders-signals-christmas/story?id=12437818)
Quote from: Fireblade on February 27, 2012, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 27, 2012, 01:14:46 PM
I think it was China that had OFC.
Oh here we go: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/World/move-santa-claus-kfcs-colonel-sanders-signals-christmas/story?id=12437818 (http://abcnews.go.com/Business/World/move-santa-claus-kfcs-colonel-sanders-signals-christmas/story?id=12437818)
I raise you: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/03/obama-fried-chicken-china_n_992765.html
edit: apparently we have one in harlem too. :(
Hey Lettuce, you at Memphis Tennesse?
If you can make it to Nashville, we can hang out at the Wildhorse Saloon saturday night, after the shabbat.
Jami Grooms playing saturday night.
Quote from: Siege on February 28, 2012, 07:35:46 PM
Hey Lettuce, you at Memphis Tennesse?
If you can make it to Nashville, we can hang out at the Wildhorse Saloon saturday night, after the shabbat.
Jami Grooms playing saturday night.
:glare:
Interesting how you ignored my suggestions for a meetup but invite Lettuce to one. Unlike Lettuce, I love both Jews and guns. :(
Quote from: Caliga on February 28, 2012, 08:48:10 PM
Unlike Lettuce, I love both Jews and guns. :(
But you also love America.
One presumes Seige does also. :hmm:
Anyway, I don't blindly love America like a Republitard or something.
Amerifats. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Caliga on February 28, 2012, 08:54:25 PM
One presumes Seige does also. :hmm:
One does not. ^_^
Get the hint Cal, siege don't like you.
Hey Seeb, you're at Ft. Campbell, right? Wanna meet up early part of June?
Cal, he probably blames you for the destruction of the temple cause you dress up like a Roman :p
I appreciate the offer, Siege. I like jews and guns just fine. I don't like saloons though, or the decadent opulence of nashville. Or going out in public.
I like the thought, though! I haven't forgotten about your recommendations, either. Submarine Super 99 will get watched one of these days, and i'll report.
While I wouldn't like going out typically, I could do a languish meet, I guess. It'd have to be in the beautiful river city, though.
I've heard the Seine is rather pretty.
The sweetly sleeping sweeping of the Seine :wub:
Do you have a crush on your roommate? :P
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 28, 2012, 11:31:43 PM
YES!
I really really do
I wish we were of appropriate gender pairs
Edit: HOW DID YOU KNOW
do I mention it that often?
He's so much handsomer than I
and I envy the ease with which he approaches every situation
the sullen tone he takes when approached with the slightest difficulty only makes him more attractive somehow
Not so much frequency as tone.
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 28, 2012, 11:30:07 PM
Languish! I am quit edrunk! ask me anything before I sober up, and I will answetr accordingly!
What do you think about black people?
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 28, 2012, 11:38:59 PM
BLACK PEOPLE:
I really like them. I call them niggers most of the time. To my roommate? niggers. The blackguard suitemate is a fat white man who associates with niggers, and this is unacceptable. It is odd that I like black people, but associating with them out of strictly regulated environmetns is quite out of the question. The thing of it is, it's alright to have them over - as long as they don't stay overnight-, and it's very good to have good relations with them in all situations. But you sohulndtt have them sit with you, or date one, of course.
I miss their company when they are not around, and I look with disdain on the way germantown folk (but not my beautiful roommate) fear them. I consider them my countrymen, albeit of a different caste, and have a love for them utterly absent yankees. Even if they make our society shittier, they are our cross to bear.
None of this applies to africans, though.
Occasionally I think you're an okay bloke, but then you say crap like this.
Thanks for confirming I shouldn't care for you Lettow. :)
Why the fuck do you use the Brit/Canuck spelling of colourful?
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 28, 2012, 11:43:49 PM
I have always used the british spellings when I can remember. Webster was an imperialist yankee. The South would've had its own dictionary if we won, and it would've adhered to british standards in many respects.
Good grief.
The only Commonwealth spelling worth a shit is aluminium, and that's only to be consistent with other elements. You still pronounce it "um."
Quote from: Ideologue on February 28, 2012, 11:46:25 PM
The only Commonwealth spelling worth a shit is aluminium, and that's only to be consistent with other elements. You still pronounce it "um."
Tantalum :contract:
FUCK.
Quote from: Barrister on February 28, 2012, 11:41:09 PM
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 28, 2012, 11:38:59 PM
BLACK PEOPLE:
I really like them. I call them niggers most of the time. To my roommate? niggers. The blackguard suitemate is a fat white man who associates with niggers, and this is unacceptable. It is odd that I like black people, but associating with them out of strictly regulated environmetns is quite out of the question. The thing of it is, it's alright to have them over - as long as they don't stay overnight-, and it's very good to have good relations with them in all situations. But you sohulndtt have them sit with you, or date one, of course.
I miss their company when they are not around, and I look with disdain on the way germantown folk (but not my beautiful roommate) fear them. I consider them my countrymen, albeit of a different caste, and have a love for them utterly absent yankees. Even if they make our society shittier, they are our cross to bear.
None of this applies to africans, though.
Occasionally I think you're an okay bloke, but then you say crap like this.
Thanks for confirming I shouldn't care for you Lettow. :)
You should still care. The boy's got a good heart, he's just screwy is all. He needs to get his head out of the clouds and have his feet planted on the ground. I still think he needs to take a hard working job, and sweat and bruise the stupid out of him. He's obviously a smart kid, he just needs a little perspective.
I come from the same cultural background as you. Roughly, anyway. Fireblade too. Neither one of us are afraid to work (WELL...), neither one of us hold some of your more offensive beliefs--even if we do occasionally partake in some racism for the yuks.
I don't think anybody's equal. The phenomenon of racism is just a way to make the less-than-equal in one group, upon whom the more-than-equal depend, more pliant.
It's worked so damned well in the South that the tenth-generation descendants of filthy sharecroppers who enthusiastically donned the gray to fight and die in a rich man's war still support basically the same kind of person.
Is it human nature, or peculiar to Southerners, that no matter how low we get--and, by so many metrics, we are low--we'd rather have someone to look down upon, than raise ourselves so those that control us need look us in the eye when they lie to us and tell us our sacrifices are not their gain?
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 29, 2012, 12:06:11 AM
I mean, fair enough
I could be less racist- but would be true to the memory of my father, or my bestest friend in the world? Or my personal feelings, however they've been gained?
This father, mind you, had a 90%+ black clientele that he really charged atrociously little..
Or do you believe in your heart of hearts that black people are equal? Why?
I don't like talking about this, because I know it isn't what people like at all
my ambition is to go abroad and leave white-black affairs behind me, but this was brought up
Can't we discuss something else? I just made popcorn
EDIT: I don't think being afraid to work is a southern thing. That's my own baggage. Still, I really really dread it. Death seems preferable to leaving the floating world of academia and irresponsibility
I believe all men, indeed all people, are equal. -_-
You know darn well that in Western Canada we don't have a significant "black" population. But in the north we had a significant aboriginal population. Who are sadly responsible for a ridicuously high amount of our crime rate. But unlike you I've gotten to know a huge number of aboriginal people, and I've found that making any generalities due to their heritage and skin tone is quite ridiculous.
...
Your fear of work... I don't know. I dare say it's not very Calvinist of you. I will also say that after a childhood of my father never being at home (he was a sports writer - he constantly was on the road, or worked at night for morning papers) I certainly understand the sentiment of "I will be a better father than my father was". I want to be there for all of my children's moments, both big and little. But being responsible for children, and a wife, I can not possible shirk away from the responsibility of taking care of them financially either.
Poor Lettow. I don't think you are actually crazy (at least you don't have an organic defect), but I do think you are on the road of ruin.
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 29, 2012, 12:16:30 AM
Edit: asking me what I think of black people hardly sounds fair
"hey lettow I want to get mad, any good ones?"
If you learned any legal lingo from your father, you probably learned the difference between an open-ended question, and a leading question.
"What do you think of black people" is open-ended.
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 29, 2012, 12:16:30 AM
Edit: asking me what I think of black people hardly sounds fair
"hey lettow I want to get mad, any good ones?"
I do like to get mad. It's what I'm best at: impotent rage. Well, that, having sex bareback without impregnating people, and the inappropriate statement.
Here's a real question: are you gonna fuck your roommate, or what?
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 29, 2012, 12:32:44 AM
Unlike me? Implying I don't know black people, uh? You presume too much- although it's true I don't know any black people anymore. I come by that honestly- I barely know anyone these days. I don't know leave my room, really.
I don't think i'm on the road to ruin. I like life where it is going, and I entertain few fears. There is so little that can go wrong, because so few things could be seen as an unpleasant result. I don't have a whole great heap of hope, but neither do I have much fear or concern. I'll get to Japan, and things will work out okay.
No, it isn't calvinist of me. You know I'm not a christian, maybe? The idea of things more important than the nation never sat well with me.
Also: I wouldn't use the language "better father than my father was." My father was an incredible father, especially considering he never wanted to be one. I just stood in the way of his dreams and put his life on hold. (ruined it is a better term- what do you call it if you put it on hold but it never resumes?) Despite me being the ruin of all his ambitions, he selflessly dedicated himself to me living a life of relative comfort, and seldom ever questioned my decisions. He warned me not to go to this hick town, but wouldn't have dreamed of opposing my autonomy.
I love my father far more than my mother- I wish I could express that to him. He talked so very very much, and was a weary, mentally unstable man at the end of it all. I avoided him to my shame, and made light of his absurdities. I have those same absurdities! I am my father's son, and everyone knows it. I am not as vulgar as he, and I have different priorities and ideals to some extent, but the link is assuredly there.
My mother was another agent of my father's ruin. Unlike myself, who was an unwitting co-conspirator, she deliberately engineered his ruin. I don't imagine she did it out of hate, but a fine, decent man was consigned to a miserable life even so.
I resent her for it; I resent myself for it. Still, life won't be as bad for me as it was for him. I am less capable of being upset than he was- I have little I hold dear that can be taken away, and nothing I have to accomplish to feel alright. Life will be okay.
Implying? I'm saying it. You don't know black people.
I'm so sorry for the loss of your father. I don't think I said anything negative about him, but only made comment of my own father. But if I am mistaken, I apologize. As you can see, I have my own father issues.
Fundamentally Lettow - I don't have anything aainst you
per se. It's just that you've said some ridiculously racist things in the past, and when asked you continue to say them.
You read much Byron, Lettow?
I don't know black people. I don't know white people either.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 29, 2012, 12:00:31 AM
I come from the same cultural background as you. Roughly, anyway. Fireblade too. Neither one of us are afraid to work (WELL...), neither one of us hold some of your more offensive beliefs--even if we do occasionally partake in some racism for the yuks.
I hope you aren't referring to me, because I've been working since the day I turned 16. :P
Also, I hate niggers?
I meant me. :P And it's less fear than loathe, at least presently.
As for your query, OH FB HAS NEVER MADE A RACIST JOKE IN HIS LIFE.
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 29, 2012, 12:55:55 AM
I have a relatively high opinion of byron. Haven't read anything except Don Juan though.
Can we all just stop talking about black people? I mean really, how unseemly
It's storming outside, which I like, but it may disconnect the power, or lead to us being herded into the basement- which I don't like
If you don't want to talk about black people, stop holding offensive and racist views about black people. -_-
Quote from: Ideologue on February 29, 2012, 12:52:17 AM
I meant me. :P And it's less fear than loathe, at least presently.
As for your query, OH FB HAS NEVER MADE A RACIST JOKE IN HIS LIFE.
Lawl, well, my attitude is "fuck working, but a nigga's gotta eat and not have his baby in rags 'n shitz." All of my jobs have been fucking terrible (yay being a line chef in the shittiest Mexican restaurant in town), neutral at best (Petsmart, I got to have sex with cute coworkers but had to deal with crazy cat people all day), or great but with abysmally low wages (lieberry work).
But no, wtf Lettow, this is the 21st century and you're an educated man. Proper Southerners of our generation aren't racist these days. Who the fuck doesn't associate themselves with people of all colors, religions, and ethnicities? This ain't the cotton days, when rich people had their nigras and us poor folk had their scraps, but at least we weren't cotton-picking niggers! These days, we're all figurative "cotton-picking niggers" for the rich people. We have too much in common with our social and economic equals of all types than we do with those rich motherfuckers.
Also, black women are fucking awesome in bed. ;)
Quote from: FirebladePetsmart, I got to have sex with cute coworkers but had to deal with crazy cat people all day
...I'm listening.
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 29, 2012, 01:04:43 AM
Now see fireblade, you sound like one of those shameless subversive gentleman that is hardly a gentleman at all
sleeping with a woman you don't intend a permanent future with? scandalous!
Those women aren't exactly looking for a permanent future with whoever they sleep with either. Someone's gonna get his dick wet, might as well have been me. ;)
Quote from: Ideologue on February 29, 2012, 01:05:26 AM
Quote from: FirebladePetsmart, I got to have sex with cute coworkers but had to deal with crazy cat people all day
...I'm listening.
Come on bro, you know that any retail type job is a ripe environment for ass. You're stuck in a building with 10-50 other people for a varying amount of hours a week (but not 40, because fuck you you're not getting a management job). It takes awhile, but in the long-term, you're practically guaranteed to get laid. Shit, now that I think about it, I may have hooked up with more girls in retail than I did through fraternity functions.
Never had luck in restaurants though. Your only choices are middle-aged Mexican ladies or incredibly fucked up, psychologically damaged waitresses. Neither of which particularly appeal to me. :yuk:
Quoteincredibly fucked up, psychologically damaged waitresses
I'm still listening.
But yeah, I know; where'd you think I got a chick still in high school from? I mean, I'm creepy, but I wasn't handing out cigarettes and wine coolers in the parking lot. Well, that day.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 29, 2012, 01:15:04 AM
Quoteincredibly fucked up, psychologically damaged waitresses
I'm still listening.
Well, you know how people say "don't stick your dick in crazy"? They do have a point..
Negative.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 29, 2012, 01:17:24 AM
But yeah, I know; where'd you think I got a chick still in high school from? I mean, I'm creepy, but I wasn't handing out cigarettes and wine coolers in the parking lot. Well, that day.
Are you referring to a new girl I don't know about or the late unpleasantness? Because dude.. we get high schoolers coming into my work pretty often. I couldn't do it, myself. Fuck, they're annoying. Even freshmen piss me off because of how fucking stupid they are.
I am sobering up now, and somewhat ashamed. I'll delete my role in these conversations, and wish those who quoted me would do the same. hazukashii, babbys first drunk thread, etc
continue discussing the defiled world's temptations at your leisure, however.
Quote from: Fireblade on February 29, 2012, 01:19:30 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on February 29, 2012, 01:17:24 AM
But yeah, I know; where'd you think I got a chick still in high school from? I mean, I'm creepy, but I wasn't handing out cigarettes and wine coolers in the parking lot. Well, that day.
Are you referring to a new girl I don't know about or the late unpleasantness? Because dude.. we get high schoolers coming into my work pretty often. I couldn't do it, myself. Fuck, they're annoying. Even freshmen piss me off because of how fucking stupid they are.
The late unpleasantness. I was only 23 then. :goodboy:
I would again, sure, but it's a strike against them.
I want a depressive 29 year old, who hates the same things I do.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 29, 2012, 01:30:58 AM
I want a depressive 29 year old, who hates the same things I do.
I think rufweed's still single.
Quote from: Lettow77 on February 29, 2012, 01:22:29 AM
I am sobering up now, and somewhat ashamed. I'll delete my role in these conversations, and wish those who quoted me would do the same. hazukashii, babbys first drunk thread, etc
In vino veritas.
Well sure- but it's more that there's also indiscretion. There's a sense of what's proper and what isn't, regardless of what you may feel or think.
RAZ REMEMBERS ALL!
Quote from: Razgovory on February 29, 2012, 10:47:39 AM
RAZ REMEMBERS ALL!
Almost as creepy as Guller making pdf's of forum threads.
Yeah. That's the creppiest thing in Languishtan by far.
It's my strength and greatest curse. People used to think I was some kind of genius. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
Quote from: Barrister on February 29, 2012, 12:23:26 AM
You know darn well that in Western Canada we don't have a significant "black" population. But in the north we had a significant aboriginal population. Who are sadly responsible for a ridicuously high amount of our crime rate. But unlike you I've gotten to know a huge number of aboriginal people, and I've found that making any generalities due to their heritage and skin tone is quite ridiculous.
I haven't gotten to know a huge number of aboriginal people, and so I've found that making generalities based on heritage and general level of dirtiness to be very useful.