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Title: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Ed Anger on February 01, 2012, 10:10:00 AM
It is national signing day, when young black men are shackled to their schools in servitude.

According to Rivals, Bama has the #1 incoming group. Ohio State is number #3.

I assume Bill in Sinton's pants are a dairy factory, since Texas is #2.

Duron Carter still sucks. And Fuck you Tim, you tainting piece of shit.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 01, 2012, 10:17:30 AM
We're number 5! We're number 5! Another year of being a strong also-ran, yippee.  :homestar:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: katmai on February 01, 2012, 10:23:04 AM
UDub has moved up into high 20's in last three days with guys switching commitments right before deadline.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on February 01, 2012, 10:42:46 AM
Hmmmm rumblins are Shreveport five star Toshiro Davis is about to fuck over LSU and sign with Texas at the last minute.  :nelson:

Might not happen but that would be a fine pants become dairy factory ending to an super nice recruiting class.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on February 01, 2012, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: katmai on February 01, 2012, 10:23:04 AM
UDub has moved up into high 20's in last three days with guys switching commitments right before deadline.

Yeah congrats to UW for stealing Cal's recruiting class.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: katmai on February 01, 2012, 10:47:01 AM
Quote from: Valmy on February 01, 2012, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: katmai on February 01, 2012, 10:23:04 AM
UDub has moved up into high 20's in last three days with guys switching commitments right before deadline.

Yeah congrats to UW for stealing Cal's recruiting class.

:rolleyes:

Only one of the guys had been a Cal commit....granted he's the #1 ranked Safety in country, other guy was a soft Trojan commit who picked UW over Cal.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: derspiess on February 01, 2012, 11:41:21 AM
Gee, I hope we hear more about the kid that signed with Alabama even though his mom wanted him to go to LSU :mellow:

I hate this day.  It's always when I hear about one of WVU's top recruits going to Maryland or Virginia Tech instead. 
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2012, 11:44:51 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 01, 2012, 11:41:21 AM
I hate this day.  It's always when I hear about one of WVU's top recruits going to Maryland or Virginia Tech instead.

Nigga, please.  Don't want to hear about MD stealing WVU's recruits, when all the best players in Maryland don't go to Maryland.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Berkut on February 01, 2012, 11:54:05 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 01, 2012, 11:41:21 AM
Gee, I hope we hear more about the kid that signed with Alabama even though his mom wanted him to go to LSU :mellow:

I hate this day.  It's always when I hear about one of WVU's top recruits going to Maryland or Virginia Tech instead. 

And now to Arizona of all places...
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: sbr on February 01, 2012, 11:56:08 AM
After stealing Cal's recruiting master.

Nm a bit late.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on February 01, 2012, 12:11:05 PM
Bwahaha!  STOLEN!  LSU's top recruit flips to Texas!

Well played Mack.  Coffee is for closers and I will brew you a pot.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 01, 2012, 12:39:52 PM
In spite of that, FSU has passed you on ESPN's list in the past couple hours. FSU is at 2, Florida at 4, Miami at 10.  :hmm:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on February 01, 2012, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 01, 2012, 12:39:52 PM
In spite of that, FSU has passed you on ESPN's list in the past couple hours. FSU is at 2, Florida at 4, Miami at 10.  :hmm:

ESPN has not flipped him on their lists yet.

I am shocked USC is ranked so low.  I just figured you could pencil them in at #1 every year.  I guess they did not have many scholarships to hand out?
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2012, 12:45:57 PM
As long as Holy Mother stays in the Top 10, they'll be alright.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on February 01, 2012, 12:54:13 PM
Ok looking at USC's class I see they only have 14 scholarships so no wonder they are so low.

I am sorta surprised they did not get a five star guy.  I guess it was a down year for Cali recruits.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2012, 12:57:52 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 01, 2012, 12:54:13 PM
Ok looking at USC's class I see they only have 14 scholarships so no wonder they are so low.

I am sorta surprised they did not get a five star guy.  I guess it was a down year for Cali recruits.

Pete got out before the NCAA dropped the hammer on USC.  Should've punished Seattle as well.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on February 01, 2012, 12:59:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2012, 12:45:57 PM
As long as Holy Mother stays in the Top 10, they'll be alright.

Coach Kelly is really turning that program around.  I just hope he gets the time to finish the job.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2012, 01:01:10 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 01, 2012, 12:59:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2012, 12:45:57 PM
As long as Holy Mother stays in the Top 10, they'll be alright.

Coach Kelly is really turning that program around.  I just hope he gets the time to finish the job.

If they could learn to hold on to the goddamned fucking ball in the red zone for a fucking change, yeah.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on February 01, 2012, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2012, 01:01:10 PM
If they could learn to hold on to the goddamned fucking ball in the red zone for a fucking change, yeah.

They will.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: derspiess on February 01, 2012, 01:52:19 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 01, 2012, 12:59:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2012, 12:45:57 PM
As long as Holy Mother stays in the Top 10, they'll be alright.

Coach Kelly is really turning that program around.  I just hope he gets the time to finish the job.

Plus he's got a few more video guys he can get killed  <_<
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Ed Anger on February 01, 2012, 02:59:07 PM
Ohio State got 2 supposedly bad ass DE's, 2 good RB's, a batch of WR's, DB's and OL. So I'm okay with the class. 
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Berkut on February 01, 2012, 04:16:36 PM
Arizona got their typical class of 2 and 3 star recruits that mostly the other Pac-12 programs were not interested in.

It's funny watching all the fanboys go on and on about what a great class it is, and how star rankings don't really matter anyway, and it is all about player development more than rankings anyway.

These exact same fans, of course, will crow endlessly about how awesome the basketball team is going to be as a result of our #1 recruiting class chock full of 5* players.

Well, it is still early for RR, and he didn't have much time to work with, but I was hoping he would be able to snag a couple guys that Arizona normally doesn't get much of a look from, but so far that has not happened.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: PDH on February 01, 2012, 04:58:14 PM
Wyoming now has three black Germans on the team and an Australian punter.  UWyo is badass.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 01, 2012, 05:00:43 PM
Those jackeroos can kick the bejesus out of the ball.  I expect more punters will be showing up.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: katmai on February 01, 2012, 08:27:57 PM
Quote from: katmai on February 01, 2012, 10:47:01 AM
Quote from: Valmy on February 01, 2012, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: katmai on February 01, 2012, 10:23:04 AM
UDub has moved up into high 20's in last three days with guys switching commitments right before deadline.

Yeah congrats to UW for stealing Cal's recruiting class.

:rolleyes:

Only one of the guys had been a Cal commit....granted he's the #1 ranked Safety in country, other guy was a soft Trojan commit who picked UW over Cal.

And then ended up signing with UCLA today :lmfao:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: sbr on February 02, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
According to Rivals Oregon had the #15 class in the country, but only fourth on the Pac-12.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 02, 2012, 09:46:43 AM
ESPN has Holy Mother at #10, but Rivals.com has them at #22.  Is that because Gunner Kiel isn't officially signed?

By the way, Gunner Kiel is one of the most awesomest quarterback names evah.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on February 02, 2012, 09:47:26 AM
Rivals top 25 recruiting classes (http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1326603):

1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. Florida
4. Ohio State
5. Stanford
6. Michigan
7. USC
8. Florida State
9. Miami
10. Oklahoma
11. Auburn
12. UCLA
13. Clemson
14. Texas A&M
15. Oregon
16. LSU
17. Tennessee
18. South Carolina
19. Georgia
20. Washington
21. Virginia Tech
22. Notre Dame
23. Rutgers
24. Cal
25. Nebraska
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on February 02, 2012, 09:48:58 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 02, 2012, 09:46:43 AM
ESPN has Holy Mother at #10, but Rivals.com has them at #22.  Is that because Gunner Kiel isn't officially signed?

By the way, Gunner Kiel is one of the most awesomest quarterback names evah.

It looks like they counted him even so.

And yes...yes it is.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: sbr on February 02, 2012, 01:02:05 PM
Colt McCoy was pretty solid name, especially for a Texas qb.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on February 02, 2012, 01:26:02 PM
Quote from: sbr on February 02, 2012, 01:02:05 PM
Colt McCoy was pretty solid name, especially for a Texas qb.

Yeah how lucky were Texas fans he turned out to be good?  A two star QB that looks like he was recruited only because he had a cool name.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 02, 2012, 01:34:42 PM
A name like that is trying too hard.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Berkut on February 02, 2012, 01:36:00 PM
QBs from HS going to college are so hard to measure for the same reason it is hard to measure them going from college to the NFL.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 02, 2012, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: sbr on February 02, 2012, 01:02:05 PM
Colt McCoy was pretty solid name, especially for a Texas qb.

Yeah, it was as if he was born to play QB at Texas.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Ed Anger on February 03, 2012, 10:05:21 AM
Oh Urban....

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache.deadspin.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2F11%2F2012%2F02%2Fde1dd10ecafe4ce9e3671392c8928a1d.jpg&hash=cadbd2fdd43b2cb153aa4e17c3e1eb531ea268f9)

You cheeky rascal.

:D
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadImmortalMan on February 03, 2012, 12:13:32 PM
Well he's getting into the spirit, anyway.  :P
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Ed Anger on February 03, 2012, 05:26:48 PM
Meathead at Wisky is ANNOYED.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik70bj2Wda4

:lol:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 03, 2012, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 03, 2012, 10:05:21 AM
Oh Urban....

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache.deadspin.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2F11%2F2012%2F02%2Fde1dd10ecafe4ce9e3671392c8928a1d.jpg&hash=cadbd2fdd43b2cb153aa4e17c3e1eb531ea268f9)

You cheeky rascal.

:D

That's extremely Texas A&M-ish.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Ed Anger on February 03, 2012, 06:50:27 PM
I think it is hilarious. Between that and Hoke calling Ohio State "Ohio", the rivalry hasn't been this fun in years.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 03, 2012, 07:04:26 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 03, 2012, 06:50:27 PM
I think it is hilarious. Between that and Hoke calling Ohio State "Ohio", the rivalry hasn't been this fun in years.

It's because you're Texas A&M-ish as well.   :D
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: dps on February 04, 2012, 01:20:47 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 01, 2012, 11:44:51 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 01, 2012, 11:41:21 AM
I hate this day.  It's always when I hear about one of WVU's top recruits going to Maryland or Virginia Tech instead.

Nigga, please.  Don't want to hear about MD stealing WVU's recruits, when all the best players in Maryland don't go to Maryland.

Well, yeah, but that's because the best players in Maryland go to Division III or NAIA schools.  :lol:

Ah, really, I've got no room to talk.  There's a reason that WVU and Marshall fill their teams up with guys from Florida, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: PDH on February 04, 2012, 02:16:40 PM
Every year, homers complain about the best kids here not going to UWyo, but in reality they don't go to other D1 schools either...Wyoming is not a hotbed of football talent.

That's right Valmy, even Duell couldn't cut it.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 04, 2012, 02:22:28 PM
WVU has cancelled their OOC game with Florida State. 
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Rasputin on February 07, 2012, 12:45:43 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 04, 2012, 02:22:28 PM
WVU has cancelled their OOC game with Florida State.
:mad: pussies ought to lose some scholarships over this

wvu is o for against fsu in the modern error...just got tired of their ass whuppings i guess
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: katmai on February 07, 2012, 01:20:30 PM

I thought FSU only recieved ass whuppings these days
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on February 07, 2012, 01:35:12 PM
Quote from: PDH on February 04, 2012, 02:16:40 PM
Every year, homers complain about the best kids here not going to UWyo, but in reality they don't go to other D1 schools either...Wyoming is not a hotbed of football talent.

That's right Valmy, even Duell couldn't cut it.

Football excellence is not exactly in my family's blood :P

For Duell to even get to Div I school was a miracle.  My other football playing relatives usually just get concussions...who knew small school Maryland HS football was so hard hitting?
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on February 07, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Quote from: Rasputin on February 07, 2012, 12:45:43 PM
:mad: pussies ought to lose some scholarships over this

wvu is o for against fsu in the modern error...just got tired of their ass whuppings i guess

Yeah the Big 12 has 9 conference games so they had to cancel somebody...might as well be the team that will probably beat them.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 07, 2012, 06:09:48 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 07, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Yeah the Big 12 has 9 conference games so they had to cancel somebody...might as well be the team that will probably beat them.

FSU was the cheapest and easiest for them to get out of.  The other ones were home games or games against in state rivals that they don't want to lose.

And with what WVU is bringing back, I'm not so sure about FSU winning that game. 
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: grumbler on February 11, 2012, 11:51:24 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 03, 2012, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 03, 2012, 10:05:21 AM
Oh Urban....

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache.deadspin.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2F11%2F2012%2F02%2Fde1dd10ecafe4ce9e3671392c8928a1d.jpg&hash=cadbd2fdd43b2cb153aa4e17c3e1eb531ea268f9)

You cheeky rascal.

:D

That's extremely Texas A&M-ish.

Especially since the Woody line was "That School Up North."

It worked with Woody.  UM needs to at least get the old schtick right if he wants to revive it, but he'd be better off watching Hoke to see how to do things right.  You don't schedule an interview so you can announce your little digs; you just do them, and let people notice.

Also, Urbs needs to think through his digs, so they don't bite him in the ass like this one; he says that they don't say the word "Michigan," but rather "the team up north;" apparently, then they will also talk about "the team up north State" when referring to the other school in Michigan.

I'm just glad that Michigan got the guy they did, and not the guy OSU got.  I'm happy to see Urban Meyer at OSU, because that will make the rivalry better (while he lasts), but I sure as shit wouldn't want him at a school I liked.

Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Berkut on February 11, 2012, 09:01:49 PM
grumbler, you have to read Three and Out just so I can compare notes with someone more familiar with Michigan.

It's kind of funny, the book (which I am about 2/3rds fo the way through - RR just finished his second season) has at the same time made me think Rodriguez got royally fucked over by some people at Michigan, while making me like the institution itself a lot - if only because it seems so clear that what happened to Rodriguez there is so completely out of whack with what Michigan is all about. And the book has actually convinced me that Michigan really *is* about something. I think they may be my new favorite Big-10 team.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: grumbler on February 11, 2012, 09:46:35 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 11, 2012, 09:01:49 PM
grumbler, you have to read Three and Out just so I can compare notes with someone more familiar with Michigan.

It's kind of funny, the book (which I am about 2/3rds fo the way through - RR just finished his second season) has at the same time made me think Rodriguez got royally fucked over by some people at Michigan, while making me like the institution itself a lot - if only because it seems so clear that what happened to Rodriguez there is so completely out of whack with what Michigan is all about. And the book has actually convinced me that Michigan really *is* about something. I think they may be my new favorite Big-10 team.

I did read it over Christmas (and thought I had talked about it here, but maybe just confused some posts I did at MGoBlog as statements I made here).

As the books makes clear, RR did get the shitty end of the stick at Michigan.  His problem was that he didn't handle it well, and lost control of the team as a result (witness the way his team kept giving up on him at the end of games - that is precisely the opposite of the way Michigan Men operate).   I think he is in an entirely different situation now, and is well-placed for success.  I personally wish him all the best, unless playing Michigan.  As the book makes clear, he was a class act, and the whole "NCAA sanctions" thing was a complete joke. 

I won't argue with you if you say Michigan is a magical place for football.  It really "is" about something.  Bo probably put it best when he said (paraphrasing here) that "My goal is simple: that when my players look back on their life, whether they went to the NFL or became doctors or lawyers or just good and successful men, that they look back on their years here and say 'those were the best years of my life.'"

This is a great time to jump on the bandwagon.  Hoke is the perfect coach for this team. He is the new Bo.  You will never see him saying of his recruits that ""I wouldn't say a great class; we have some marginal guys in there."  The game against Alabama to start the year is going to be a great one.  Non-student tickets (25,000 of them) at Michigan are already sold out (they've asked for more), and I'd be surprised if the Alabama ones are not as well.  'Bama fans are probably my favorite fans outside the B10 (they were terrific before and at the 2000 Orange Bowl), and they are already appearing, non-trolling, on MGoBlog.  Plus, "our helmets have wings!"  I'd be delighted if you jumped on board.

Even though you didn't show up the last time I went to Five Guys!  :mad:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: grumbler on February 11, 2012, 09:50:01 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 11, 2012, 09:01:49 PM
grumbler, you have to read Three and Out just so I can compare notes with someone more familiar with Michigan.

Should have noted above that I'm probably not the best guy to compare notes with when it comes to Michigan!  :lol:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: stjaba on February 11, 2012, 11:40:35 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 11, 2012, 11:51:24 AM

Also, Urbs needs to think through his digs, so they don't bite him in the ass like this one; he says that they don't say the word "Michigan," but rather "the team up north;" apparently, then they will also talk about "the team up north State" when referring to the other school in Michigan.


When Urban was at UF, he referred to FSU as "School Out West." And I think he did something similar at Utah w/r/t Brigham Young.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: derspiess on February 15, 2012, 04:43:12 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 07, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Quote from: Rasputin on February 07, 2012, 12:45:43 PM
:mad: pussies ought to lose some scholarships over this

wvu is o for against fsu in the modern error...just got tired of their ass whuppings i guess

Yeah the Big 12 has 9 conference games so they had to cancel somebody...might as well be the team that will probably beat them.

WVU could have kept that game since they had (and still have) an open spot for that week, but given their history vs. FSU I won't miss it.  They replaced the FSU game with:  a game vs. James Madison at Fedex Field on 9/15 :lol:

Kinda weird to look at the WVU 2012 schedule and see so many 'unfamiliar' logos.  Cool to see an upgrade in opponents, but shitty to know that I won't have an easy-to-get-to away game each year.

Anyway, WVU reached a settlement with the Big East today, a bit sooner than I expected.  Instead of the customary $5 million, WVU will pay the Big East $11 million and the Big 12 will kick in another $9 mil (some of which WVU will eventually pay back to the Big 12). 
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 15, 2012, 04:48:32 PM
They don't have an open date.  They have a bye.  They've got 12 games on the schedule now, so one of the OOC games was going to have to go away.  The road game against a non rival makes sense.

The JMU game was scheduled in June of last year, and is at a neutral location where IIRC, WVU will get a chunk of the gate and such $$.  At this point, with something like 6 of the BCS top 25 teams from last year on their schedule already (OU, OSU, TCU, KSU, UT, Baylor although they don't have RGIII anymore), they could probably use the cashmoney more than a marquee game.

E:  And I read that it was $10million, with $5 million as a gift from the Big 12, with the other $5 million having to be paid back starting in a few years.  Either way, 9 or 10million, what was really interesting/sad about that article was that WVU is only going to be getting like 50% of the normal B12 revenue for the first year, (and it will go up to 100% over three years, IIRC, which is when $1 million a year starts coming out for four/five years to pay the loan back) but it is still more than they would have gotten in the Big East, and this is with the ancient Big 12 Tier 1 contract that is currently worth exactly the same as their new tier 2 ($90m) and is due to be renegotiated in the next couple of years.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 15, 2012, 05:06:12 PM
Oh and four TCU players got nailed selling weed on campus.

http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/34848232

http://media.nbcbayarea.com/documents/TCU+Drug+Arrest+Warrants.pdf

Tanner Brock, DJ Yendrey, Ty Horn, Devin Johnson
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: derspiess on February 16, 2012, 09:47:50 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 15, 2012, 04:48:32 PM
They don't have an open date.  They have a bye.  They've got 12 games on the schedule now, so one of the OOC games was going to have to go away.  The road game against a non rival makes sense.

I worded that awkardly.  My point was that the date of the FSU game wasn't a conflict with anything on the new schedule.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 16, 2012, 11:04:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 16, 2012, 09:47:50 AM
I worded that awkardly.  My point was that the date of the FSU game wasn't a conflict with anything on the new schedule.

Oh I see.  Yeah, but why give up the sweet, sweet $$ they get from home games (and beer sales at those home games!) in exchange for a big road game like that when they suddenly now have several other big games to play and they kinda need some extra coin?

Sure, they're getting more from the Big 12 TV contract than they were from the Big East, but they're still going to be behind the other B12 programs for several years to come because of the graduated entrance and the loan payment. 
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on February 16, 2012, 04:56:44 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 15, 2012, 05:06:12 PM
Oh and four TCU players got nailed selling weed on campus.

http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/34848232

http://media.nbcbayarea.com/documents/TCU+Drug+Arrest+Warrants.pdf

Tanner Brock, DJ Yendrey, Ty Horn, Devin Johnson

So what should we taunt them with?  Toke and Coke U?  Tons of Cannabis U?  THCU?

Still prefer drug dealers to Aggies.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: derspiess on February 16, 2012, 05:30:06 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 16, 2012, 11:04:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 16, 2012, 09:47:50 AM
I worded that awkardly.  My point was that the date of the FSU game wasn't a conflict with anything on the new schedule.

Oh I see.  Yeah, but why give up the sweet, sweet $$ they get from home games (and beer sales at those home games!) in exchange for a big road game like that when they suddenly now have several other big games to play and they kinda need some extra coin?

Sure, they're getting more from the Big 12 TV contract than they were from the Big East, but they're still going to be behind the other B12 programs for several years to come because of the graduated entrance and the loan payment. 

They'll be okay, even if they have to actually take state funds for a few years to even things out.  IIRC they currently rank in the middle of the Big 12 in terms of revenue/expense.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 16, 2012, 06:11:29 PM
Yeah that's where I've seen them too.  They should be up there where A&M was (#3) when they get "settled" though.  Plus they actually win fucking games, unlike A&M, which is why I think WVU was an outstanding get for the conference.  Good basketball too.  What's the baseball team like?


@Valmy (quoting on the phone is a pita):  strong possibilities there, but I'm kinda bummed this happened with the start of the season so far off.  The trolling will have kind of worn itself down by then. 
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 16, 2012, 06:19:44 PM
Oh!  Mid major news:  WAC commissioner Karl Benson did not have his contract renewed by the presidents, so.....he's now the commissioner of the Sun Belt.  UTSA and Texas State will hopefully go with him to a conference that, while maybe not all that stable with Mount USA looking around at possibilities and not all that prestigious (not that the WAC is prestigious or something), at least isn't like...one school loss away from not being a football conference at all anymore.

E:  I have seen some stuff saying that UTSA is actually a possible target for Mount USA, but I'm not sure I'm buying it.  I guess the location and stadium and all that are big deals, but....hm. 
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 19, 2012, 07:31:37 PM
Hey Valmy, in case you didn't see this on Shaggy Bevo: TCU went up to Boise for a basketball game today:

(https://p.twimg.com/Al_vTnWCEAAwBTC.jpg)

^_^ It isn't the best, but it's a start, and maybe it can carry over into the football season.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Berkut on February 23, 2012, 01:10:07 PM
Talk about winning by losing:

http://azstarnet.com/sports/blogs/finley/arizona-wildcats-football-neal-reconsiders-will-make-decision-today/article_5598ef4e-5cad-11e1-94bb-001871e3ce6c.html

The Golden Domers are welcome to him and his dad. I followed his recruitment, since he was the first "big name" recruit Rodriguez went after, and I was honestly relieved by the time it was all over that he did not pick Arizona. Or that his dad didn't, or whatever.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: grumbler on February 23, 2012, 03:31:24 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2012, 01:10:07 PM
Talk about winning by losing:

http://azstarnet.com/sports/blogs/finley/arizona-wildcats-football-neal-reconsiders-will-make-decision-today/article_5598ef4e-5cad-11e1-94bb-001871e3ce6c.html

The Golden Domers are welcome to him and his dad. I followed his recruitment, since he was the first "big name" recruit Rodriguez went after, and I was honestly relieved by the time it was all over that he did not pick Arizona. Or that his dad didn't, or whatever.

Heard a fair amount about this situation over the last coupla weeks, and you are right to be relieved not to have his dad anywhere near your program, if what I heard was anything like close to truth.  His dad apparently abandoned him and his mom and sibs, and only came back into Neal's life when it was clear he was likely to be worth some money some day.  Dad refused to allow the kid to pick his school (Arizona) and, from what I read, wouldn't even let Neal go to the announcement until Neal agreed to go to ND.

Sounds a lot like someone found a way to get dad to fixate on ND and only ND.  How much do you reckon that cost some booster?
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 24, 2012, 09:05:36 AM
Hata's will always hate.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Ed Anger on February 24, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
I wouldn't want my kid near RichRod either.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on March 16, 2012, 12:01:13 AM
Valmy you see the new TV deal info for the Big 12?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/17774745/big-12-negotiating-media-rights-deal-worth-at-least-26-billion

$2.6b total over 13 years, with tier 3 rights being up to the school, as usual.  Everyone is up to ~$20 million each + whatever they sell their T3 rights for, so UT and KU immediately add several million to that, with OU adding their own network later, and the others adding a little bit here and there.

Interesting part:

QuoteThis new deal is based on a 10-team league and sources said it could be worth even more per school if the Big 12 expands to 11 or 12 teams.

They'd pay the Big 12 to poach schools from other conferences (a little over $2 million for each member per new member).   Supposedly, there is a list of poached schools this would work for.  This...supposed...list...uh...supposedly....includes Florida State, Clemson, BYU, and Notre Dame among others.

E: Whoa there's a new post on shaggy about it stolen from some random WVU board that's saying they'll add money up to 16 total members.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on March 16, 2012, 08:14:30 AM
Yeah I saw that and it was interesting.  Provisions are there to expand to 11, 12, 14, or 16 members (but, oddly enough, not 13 or 15).  But I was not aware they had a list of schools the Big 12 was encouraged to poach.  That strikes me as pretty dangerous stuff from a legal point of view.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: PDH on March 16, 2012, 08:17:25 AM
Wyoming to the Big 12, it is the new reality.  It makes sense for everyone!
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on March 16, 2012, 01:58:01 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 16, 2012, 08:14:30 AM
Yeah I saw that and it was interesting.  Provisions are there to expand to 11, 12, 14, or 16 members (but, oddly enough, not 13 or 15).  But I was not aware they had a list of schools the Big 12 was encouraged to poach.  That strikes me as pretty dangerous stuff from a legal point of view.

Yeah, I'm not really buying the specific names on a list part, but it's an entertaining offseason rumor to roll with.  There has got to be something that triggers that extra $2 million though, so maybe instead of an actual list, it's just a list of qualifications that all of those schools happen to meet.   

Quote from: PDHWyoming to the Big 12, it is the new reality.  It makes sense for everyone!

Hey PDH: UTSA has been talking to Mount USA, it seems!  Also the Sun Belt.  It's like they're looking for a way out of the WAC.  I can't imagine why.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: sbr on March 21, 2012, 06:12:24 PM
Oregon has scheduled a home and home with Michigan state in 2013(Eugene) and 2014(East Lansing).  I like it, the Ducks continue to put together a pretty good OOC schedule, except for this year. :yucky:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Berkut on March 21, 2012, 06:39:34 PM
You can see the difference in balls between Kelly and RRod. Kelly schedules Michigan State, RRod schedules Michigan.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: PDH on March 21, 2012, 06:40:55 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on March 16, 2012, 01:58:01 PM
Hey PDH: UTSA has been talking to Mount USA, it seems!  Also the Sun Belt.  It's like they're looking for a way out of the WAC.  I can't imagine why.

The WAC is doomed, the only way the Mtn West survives is by joining with another has-been conference and this new group invites some other wannabes to come play.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: grumbler on March 21, 2012, 07:39:02 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 21, 2012, 06:39:34 PM
You can see the difference in balls between Kelly and RRod. Kelly schedules Michigan State, RRod schedules Michigan.

At least RichRod is smart enough to schedule Michigan...

in basketball!  :lol:  http://www.freep.com/article/20120320/SPORTS06/120320048/michigan-basketball-arizona?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 21, 2012, 07:45:27 PM
Dang, they're scheduling games for 2031 already.  :wacko:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: grumbler on March 21, 2012, 07:47:01 PM
Quote from: sbr on March 21, 2012, 06:12:24 PM
Oregon has scheduled a home and home with Michigan state in 2013(Eugene) and 2014(East Lansing).  I like it, the Ducks continue to put together a pretty good OOC schedule, except for this year. :yucky:

That's a smart move on Oregon's part.  They should win those games, but MSU won't be patsies.

Could be the clash of awful uniforms, though.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on March 21, 2012, 10:10:47 PM
Quote from: PDH on March 21, 2012, 06:40:55 PM
The WAC is doomed, the only way the Mtn West survives is by joining with another has-been conference and this new group invites some other wannabes to come play.

I lurk on the Scout WAC message board.  Currently, or at least semi recently since I haven't been there in a while, the school they seem want to bring in to be the savior of the conference is....Lamar, which will cause a bunch of other FCS schools to suddenly want to move up or something.  However it works, there are lists on there of this huge conference made up of a bunch of former FCS schools.  I don't know why they would all suddenly want to move up because of Lamar, or why they would want to join the WAC at this point anyway.  The Big West, or wherever they all come from, is probably better. 

There's also some poster who insists that Lamar delivers the "Southeastern Texas" market, something that apparently doesn't include the city of Houston itself, because Texas and Texas A&M are too far away.  :D  It's great.

Anyway, back in reality (where Lamar probably doesn't even deliver Beaumont), I hope UTSA and Texas State get invites to the Sunbelt.  And take them.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 22, 2012, 06:58:03 PM
Wow, what a bunch of nonsense.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on March 22, 2012, 07:35:19 PM
Well, to be fair, not everyone there is completely delusional or even all that interested in schools like Lamar except simply for numbers.  They're mostly just looking for ways to have the WAC survive instead of basically folding with two or three teams going to the Sunbelt, a couple going to Mount USA, and a couple just....getting fucked? 

Some of the ideas are at least very original, like the one where the WAC (or the schools that don't get picked up or whatever) merges with the Big Sky, and somehow turns into a hybrid FCS/FBS conference.  Others are just standard stuff that's actually possible like the WAC and Belt merging after some schools from each get invites elsewhere. 
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: FunkMonk on March 22, 2012, 08:21:43 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.athletepromotions.com%2Fathletepictures%2Fphotos%2F12062Brent_Musberger.jpg&hash=93c779d231b090f0265f266ff4ed913da4058138)

I just want to know when my UTSA Roadrunners can face my UT Longhorns in a good ole fashioned Texas Two-step slobberknockin' on the Grid Iron.  :mad:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on March 22, 2012, 11:26:14 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on March 22, 2012, 08:21:43 PM
I just want to know when my UTSA Roadrunners can face my UT Longhorns in a good ole fashioned Texas Two-step slobberknockin' on the Grid Iron.  :mad:

The Runners are going to need a few years to get their shit together.  Say...10?   :Embarrass:  I just don't want them murdered too badly.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 22, 2012, 11:27:33 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on March 22, 2012, 08:21:43 PM
I just want to know when my UTSA Roadrunners can face my UT Longhorns in a good ole fashioned Texas Two-step slobberknockin' on the Grid Iron.  :mad:

"You're looking live at the Roadrunner massacre, only on CBS!"
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on March 23, 2012, 12:11:52 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 22, 2012, 11:27:33 PM
"You're looking live at the Roadrunner massacre, only on CBS!"

The Roadrunners are on the Longhorn Network.  :cool:

(it's because of the whining about Texas high school games being on there, so they found lower level football they could cram into some Saturday afternoon timeslots with no complaining.. :P..still a good deal for UTSA)
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on March 23, 2012, 11:18:31 AM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7723700/why-taken-143-years-four-team-college-football-playoff-seem-real

QuoteThe argument commenced on a fall afternoon in 1869, on a grassy pitch near the state university of New Jersey. What they played back then wasn't quite football, but a hybrid of rugby and soccer and The Hunger Games — 25 players per side, the ball advanced only by beating or kicking it with fists and feet and heads. The two teams whaled on each other until a total of 10 goals were scored, and after their 6-4 loss, Princeton's players were literally run out of town by Rutgers students, leaping into their carriages and wagons and hastening the 20 miles back to campus.

Nine days later, on the Princeton campus: a rematch, and an 8-0 victory for the home team, under slightly different rules. A third game was scheduled, but after protestations by the faculty of both schools that the games were interfering with student studies, it was canceled. Retroactively, a pollster and mathematician named Richard Billingsley declared Princeton the winner of the national championship, because its victory came later in the season; retroactively, a historian named Parke Davis named Rutgers and Princeton co-champions. The entire 1869 college football season consisted of two games, and yet there is no consensus national champion.

The beginning of a proud tradition.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: sbr on March 26, 2012, 06:33:22 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-bcsmeeting

QuoteBCS: 'Host of intricate details' being discussed

DALLAS (AP)—BCS leaders say they are sorting through a "host of intricate details" about how college football's postseason would work if major changes are made to the current format.

A statement released by the 11 conference commissioners and Notre Dame's athletic director after a meeting in Dallas on Monday said: "While no decisions have been made about the overall structure, our talks have entered the `brass tacks' level."

No specific mention of four-team playoff was made in the statement, but all the commissioners have acknowledged that option is being discussed.

The statement says that if the format is changed, where and when games will be played and how the teams will be selected have to be worked out.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on April 06, 2012, 02:55:38 PM
Bobby Petrino is a colossal dumbass.  I can't believe he might get himself fired over side ass. 

E:  Oh right:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdictopop.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F04%2FBobby_Petrino.jpg&hash=e8e0cf3d1c1d669cb457591f3812d3c40eb14ed6)
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on April 06, 2012, 03:31:06 PM
It is pretty amazing to see a coach with his record eagerly burning all his bridges.   The idiotic part was that he allegedly was having an affair with her and then got her a job in the department.  So he may have taken something that was no big deal and turned it into a sexual harrasment lawsuit/job termination type situation.  Brilliant.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on April 06, 2012, 03:32:41 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 06, 2012, 03:31:06 PM
It is pretty amazing to see a coach with his record eagerly burning all his bridges.   The idiotic part was that he allegedly was having an affair with her and then got her a job in the department.  So he may have taken something that was no big deal and turned it into a sexual harrasment lawsuit/job termination type situation.  Brilliant.

:yes:

http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=6100&SPID=2419&SPSID=30722

Right side just above Veltkamp (like she's difficult to spot on that page or something).  Hired her last Tuesday.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on April 06, 2012, 03:51:14 PM
While it is encouraging to see women getting opportunities to be on coaching staffs in men's athletics this is probably not the right way to go about it  :P
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on April 06, 2012, 04:34:40 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadImmortalMan on April 06, 2012, 05:10:35 PM
Sucks to be her cuckold fiancee.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.collegiatestadiums.com%2Fuploads%2F2012-jessica-dorrell-fiance-josh.jpg&hash=788aa050aeebd5546a7ee44964025363de6706c9)


Sorry, Josh.


Also she was a student there until 2008? Oh dear.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 06, 2012, 05:49:49 PM
Student-Athlete Development Coordinator?

Bobby's going to be shocked he was used just to get to all that big Mandingo cock.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 06, 2012, 06:06:13 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 06, 2012, 05:10:35 PM
Sucks to be her cuckold fiancee.


Sorry, Josh.

Fuck him, looks like a douche anyway.
And obviously doesn't have a big Mandingo cock.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: grumbler on April 06, 2012, 06:06:20 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 06, 2012, 05:49:49 PM
Student-Athlete Development Coordinator?

Bobby's going to be shocked he was used just to get to all that big Mandingo cock.

I wasn't gonna go there, but that was my first thought as well.  Petrino deserved to be used, but he was used.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Ed Anger on April 06, 2012, 07:41:21 PM
Nothing wrong with side ass.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on April 06, 2012, 08:04:26 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 06, 2012, 07:41:21 PM
Nothing wrong with side ass.

Yeah if he hadn't been a dumb ass and employed her this would just be his wife's problem.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: derspiess on April 06, 2012, 09:04:45 PM
Old article but it came to mind when the news broke.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2010/10/20/zimmer-still-not-a-big-fan-of-petrino/

QuoteZimmer: Still not a big fan of Petrino

10/20/10 at 3:47pm Written by jreedy

Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer is not one to mince words. So when it came time to ask him about his first return to Atlanta since the 2007 season from hell, when the Falcons went 4-12, and Petrino resigned with three games left to take the job at Arkansas, Zimmer pulled out the Ginsu knives.

On going back to Atlanta, Zimmer said about that season "I was never even there. As far as I am concerned. I never even was there. When a coach quits in the middle of the year and ruins a bunch of people's families and doesn't' have enough guts to at least finish out the year. I am not a part of that."

Pretty good stuff, but it gets even better in his appraisal of Petrino:  "He is a coward. Put that in quotes. He ruined a bunch of people's lives, a bunch of people's families, kids, because he didn't have enough nuts to stay there and finish the job. That's the truth."

When asked if he had seen a two days like that before, where the Falcons lost on Monday Night Football, a coach resigns and then is doing "Woo Pig Sooie" 24 hours later in front of Arkansas boosters, Zimmer said: "No, most people in football have enough courage about them and enough fight to stick through something and not quit halfway through the year. It is cowardly.

"He came in and said he resigned, he would talk to us all at a later date, walked out of the office and no one has ever talked to him since. Not that anybody wanted to.

"He's a gutless b—–d. Quote that. I don't give a s—."

When told that we might might not be able to use the B word, Zimmer went one better: "How about this, gutless MF. You can use that."

For background, before Atlanta Zimmer and Petrino had coached before. Zimmer was an assistant at Weber State for eight years, including defensive coordinator. Petrino was the wide receivers coach there in 1987-88. When Bill Parcells resigned as Dallas' head coach and Zimmer's contract as defensive coordinator lapsed, Petrino was able to hire him.

Two lessons out of this — you don't mess with Mike Zimmer and Zimmer won't be attending any Pro Days in Fayetteville anytime soon.

That's how Zimmer talks to the press.  Imagine what he's like on the field  :lol:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: grumbler on April 07, 2012, 10:09:20 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 06, 2012, 08:04:26 PM
Yeah if he hadn't been a dumb ass and employed her this would just be his wife's problem.
If he hadn't agreed to hire her, he wouldn't have gotten in her pants.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 08, 2012, 04:12:09 AM
BURN THE BIG TEN TO THE GROUND!!! :ultra: :bleeding:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=mh-huguenin_college_football_playoffs_future_040712
QuoteAs for the national title aspect, each of the four options has a name: "BCS with Adjustments," "Original 'Plus One,' " "Four-team event" and "Four Teams Plus."

The "Four Teams Plus" likely is Delany's favorite, which means it's viable. In that option, the four highest-ranked teams would meet in two bowls – except the Big Ten and Pac-12 champs always would meet in the Rose Bowl. After the three games are played (in essence, it would be three semifinals, meaning that college football then would become the only sport in the history of mankind that would have three semifinals), two teams are selected to meet for the title.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: katmai on April 09, 2012, 11:52:13 PM
QuoteSEC: There are 14 nonconference games against Big Six opponents, an increase of two from last season. Missouri and Vanderbilt are playing two such games, while Mississippi State and Texas A&M are playing zero. There are 15 games against FCS opponents, three more than last season and the highest total in the nation; each league school has at least one such game and Texas A&M has two.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: sbr on April 10, 2012, 12:00:50 AM
What is a Big Six opponent?
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: katmai on April 10, 2012, 12:05:26 AM
Quote from: sbr on April 10, 2012, 12:00:50 AM
What is a Big Six opponent?

Schools from
ACC
Big East
Big Ten
Big 12
Pac 12
SEC
conferences.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 10, 2012, 12:10:03 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 09, 2012, 11:52:13 PM
There are 15 games against FCS opponents, three more than last season and the highest total in the nation; each league school has at least one such game and Texas A&M has two.
[/quote]

So 2 for A&M and 1 for Missouri means no change overall.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: sbr on April 10, 2012, 12:12:21 AM
That makes sense.

I feel like there is a joke about it being 50% of the Big 12 and kids 50% dumber than the Big 12 kids wouldn't be smart enough to tie their own shoes, but it isn't coming to me.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: dps on April 10, 2012, 08:19:48 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 06, 2012, 08:04:26 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 06, 2012, 07:41:21 PM
Nothing wrong with side ass.

Yeah if he hadn't been a dumb ass and employed her this would just be his wife's problem.

AFAIK, the young woman isn't claiming sexual harassment or anything of that nature, so legally it's probably still just the wife's problem that he was getting some on the side.

From the university's standpoint, the problem isn't that he was getting some on the side, it's that he lied to the administration about what happened.  (From a technical legal POV, anyway--from a PR POV, it's a big problem for them even if he had told them the truth about the accident from the start.)
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on April 10, 2012, 08:32:13 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 10, 2012, 12:10:03 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 09, 2012, 11:52:13 PM
There are 15 games against FCS opponents, three more than last season and the highest total in the nation; each league school has at least one such game and Texas A&M has two.

So 2 for A&M and 1 for Missouri means no change overall.
[/quote]

The Big 12 has 9 conference games so they both had to scramble to get a last second non-conference game since the SEC has 8 conference games.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: grumbler on April 10, 2012, 08:49:28 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 10, 2012, 12:05:26 AM
Quote from: sbr on April 10, 2012, 12:00:50 AM
What is a Big Six opponent?

Schools from
ACC
Big East
Big Ten
Big 12
Pac 12
SEC
conferences.

How does "Big Six" differ from "BCS opponent" except to exclude the independents?

I've never run across the term "Big Six" before.  Is it new, or I have just missed it because I don't read Katmai outside the forum?
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: katmai on April 10, 2012, 09:10:28 AM
Not my term.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on April 10, 2012, 09:15:13 AM
"Big Six" isn't a particularly new term. 

Quote from: dpsAFAIK, the young woman isn't claiming sexual harassment or anything of that nature, so legally it's probably still just the wife's problem that he was getting some on the side.

From the university's standpoint, the problem isn't that he was getting some on the side, it's that he lied to the administration about what happened.  (From a technical legal POV, anyway--from a PR POV, it's a big problem for them even if he had told them the truth about the accident from the start.)

Aside from the lying part, there's also the potential problem of apparently creating a new job title at a state school in order to give that job to his mistress/future mistress so that he can bang/continue to bang her.  It was supposedly posted then closed within an hour lolz.  I've also seen some relatively large salary numbers (six figures) for her on message boards, but I don't know where to go to verify it.  It's public info, right?
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: dps on April 10, 2012, 09:56:08 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on April 10, 2012, 09:15:13 AM
"Big Six" isn't a particularly new term. 

Quote from: dpsAFAIK, the young woman isn't claiming sexual harassment or anything of that nature, so legally it's probably still just the wife's problem that he was getting some on the side.

From the university's standpoint, the problem isn't that he was getting some on the side, it's that he lied to the administration about what happened.  (From a technical legal POV, anyway--from a PR POV, it's a big problem for them even if he had told them the truth about the accident from the start.)

Aside from the lying part, there's also the potential problem of apparently creating a new job title at a state school in order to give that job to his mistress/future mistress so that he can bang/continue to bang her.  It was supposedly posted then closed within an hour lolz.  I've also seen some relatively large salary numbers (six figures) for her on message boards, but I don't know where to go to verify it.  It's public info, right?

Not sure about Arkansas law, but it's a state school, so I'd guess it's considered public information.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: derspiess on April 10, 2012, 10:54:02 AM
Quote from: grumbler on April 10, 2012, 08:49:28 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 10, 2012, 12:05:26 AM
Quote from: sbr on April 10, 2012, 12:00:50 AM
What is a Big Six opponent?

Schools from
ACC
Big East
Big Ten
Big 12
Pac 12
SEC
conferences.

How does "Big Six" differ from "BCS opponent" except to exclude the independents?

I've never run across the term "Big Six" before.  Is it new, or I have just missed it because I don't read Katmai outside the forum?

I think it's primarily used in basketball, which doesn't have a BCS but has a similar predominance of the same member conferences.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on April 10, 2012, 07:05:35 PM
It looks like Petrino is out:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7798429/bobby-petrino-return-arkansas-razorbacks-coach-sources-say

QuoteBobby Petrino will not return as head football coach at Arkansas, multiples sources have told ESPN.com's Chris Low.

The university has called an 8:15 p.m. ET press conference at which time athletic director Jeff Long will announce Petrino will not be back.

The 51-year-old Petrino was put on paid leave last week after he didn't tell his boss right away that a 25-year-old female football program employee was riding with him during an April 1 motorcycle crash. Petrino, who is married with four children, also admitted to an inappropriate relationship.

On Monday, a person familiar with the investigation confirmed to The Associated Press that Petrino's "previous inappropriate relationship" was with Dorrell, the former Arkansas volleyball player with whom Petrino was riding with during his motorcycle crash on a rural two-lane road southeast of Fayetteville.

Petrino was noticeably vague in the wording about the relationship in his statement last Thursday, and the person spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Long said in a late-night news conference Thursday that he didn't hear about the 25-year-old Dorrell until Petrino called him that afternoon, minutes before a police report was released that disclosed her presence at the accident.

Dorrell, who did not return a call seeking comment, was hired March 28 by Petrino as the student-athlete development coordinator after serving as a fundraiser with the Razorback Foundation. She is in charge of organizing the recruiting process for the football team, including initial eligibility for each incoming player.

Petrino signed a new seven-year contract in December 2010 after completing his third regular season at Arkansas. The contract, for an average of $3.53 million annually, had a clause in it that would allow Arkansas to dismiss Petrino for "engaging in conduct, as solely determined by the university, which is clearly contrary to the character and responsibilities of a person occupying the position of head football coach or which negatively or adversely affects the reputation of the (university's) athletics programs in any way."

The police report said Petrino was riding with Dorrell when he lost control of his motorcycle. Dorrell said in the report that she wasn't sure what caused the accident, during which Petrino was unable to maneuver a turn and laid the motorcycle down on its left side while sliding off a rural, two-lane highway about 20 miles southeast of Fayetteville.

Petrino said in the report that wind and sun caused the accident. The police report said Petrino and Dorrell were taken by a passer-by to an intersection in southeast Fayetteville, where Arkansas State Police Capt. Lance King, who was often assigned to protect Petrino, took the coach to the hospital.

The police report said Dorrell wasn't taken to a hospital, and that she was dropped off at her vehicle parked at the intersection. State police spokesman Bill Sadler said Petrino didn't try to hide Dorrell's part in the accident when questioned on Tuesday.

"Coach Petrino was as cooperative as anybody that we could ever hope to encounter following the traffic crash," Sadler said.

Petrino, who wasn't wearing a helmet, was hospitalized and had since returned to practice. The police report said he will not be cited for the accident that occurred near the small town of Crosses on a road popular with motorcyclists. Petrino has said he has been an avid rider since he was 10, and the Helena, Mont., native said several years ago that he owned a Harley-Davidson and four other motorcycles.

Assistant head coach Taver Johnson had been placed in charge of the program while Petrino was on leave.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: grumbler on April 10, 2012, 08:57:27 PM
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Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: FunkMonk on April 10, 2012, 09:56:12 PM
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Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 10, 2012, 10:07:50 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on April 10, 2012, 10:32:45 PM
Another one:

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Okay, so the relationship had been going on for a significant amount of time.  The chick got the job over 158 other applicants, and was handed a $20,000 "signing bonus" or something when she was hired. 

She's still on the staff page, but Bobby is already gone: http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=6100&SPID=2419&SPSID=30722

E: Damn.  As a side note, Valmy have you seen the Ricky Williams statue?  I just saw a photo of it for the first time just now, and......I don't like it.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: grumbler on April 11, 2012, 09:19:19 PM
A mildly amusing B10-centric analogy using GoT:
QuoteThe North:

Michigan: House Stark. Michigan is one of the oldest teams in the country and can trace their lineage back to the First Men (to play football).  Like Winterfell, their keep is one of the oldest and largest in all the BCS Kingdoms, and like the Starks there must always be a Michigan Man in the Big House. One of the defining characteristics of House Stark is their dedication to honor, a trait that Michigan shares as well. Many other houses look upon this as folly, for it puts both Stark and Michigan at a disadvantage when dealing with other Houses who have no such restrictions. Both the Starks and Michigan share sigils of ferocious creatures that do not actually live on their lands. They are The School in the North.

Ohio State: House Bolton. If there is any house that can match the Starks in the North, it is House Bolton. While the power of Michigan has waned in the past years, Ohio State's has risen under the watchful eye of their quiet leader, Jim Tressel. Like Roose Bolton, Tressel looked like a model banner man and Northerner, honorable and loyal, but deep down he only cared about winning. And win he did, dispatching Michigan and becoming the new Warden of the North. House Bolton is seen by many to be brutal and untrustworthy, but there is no denying their power or the intelligence of their leadership. While the rest of the North floundered, they flourished. Both Ohio State and Bolton now are dealing with new heirs who many people think are basically the scum of the earth.

Wisconsin: House Umber. While not the most powerful House, the Umbers have made a name for themselves for being brave warriors and immensely strong. They could never match the power of the Starks or the Bolton's, but individually they are perhaps the strongest warriors in the BCS Kingdoms. Their sigil is a chained giant, and the men of the house look the part, simply overpowering any foe who stands before them. One of the members of House Umber is nicknamed "Whoresbane" which sums up Brett Bielma nicely.

Penn State: House Manderly. House Manderly was never originally from the North, instead they arrived a 1000 years ago after being chased away from the South. While they were accepted by the Starks and have lived in the North for some time, they are still viewed by many as outsiders, and not considered true Northerners.  While this may not seem fair to Penn State, who have proven themselves time and again to be loyal subjects, it is the case regardless. Whiteharbor is the only port of size in the North and is the portal through which the rest of the North gains access to the fertile lands of the South. While Penn State is not the only way the Big 10 gains access to the East Coast, it does play a similar role.

Michigan State: House Karstark. The Karstarks are an offshoot of House Stark, started by a youngest son who would never have inherited anything. They are proud, but not particularly powerful in the grand scheme of things. No matter what they do, they forever live in the shadow of their more powerful, pure blood Stark cousin's. And if they get out of hand, you can bet that big cousin is standing there ready to lop off their head.

Minnesota: House Mormont. Both Minnesota and House Mormont are exceptionally proud and incredibly poor. They hardly seem worthy of being part of the BCS nobility, seeing as they live in a wooden fort on an island with no resources, but they are. Their sigil is a bear which kind of looks like a gopher.

Iowa: House Reed. House Reed lives in a swamp far away from civilization. Iowa can be found in a cornfield far away from civilization. Every once in a while they do something interesting, but mostly they just sit far away from civilization.

Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana: House who cares. Seriously, no one cares about the minor houses in the books and no one cares about these teams.

Other Great Houses:

Notre Dame: House Targeryen. House Targeryen is not aligned with any of the old kingdoms, having arrived from Vallyria with dragons and conquering everyone. For centuries they lorded over the other BCS people as the undisputed kings, but recently have fallen on hard times. Inbreeding has basically left them insane, and a series of horrendous leaders have left them running around in the wilderness with no shoes eating horse hearts. One Targeyen named Viserys even got a pot of melted gold poured over his head. Like Targeryen, Notre Dame is not really seen as a threat to anyone, but there is a great deal of power still in the name. A capable person could turn them into a mighty force.

Texas: House Baratheon. Both are big, powerful, and pretty much assholes. They don't really work with others, instead just tell them what to do. They were kings for a while, but recently have utterly collapsed, and aren't really a force to be reckoned with. Baratheon's sigil is a horned stag, which is similar to Texas' Longhorn.

Alabama: House Lannister. Everyone hates the Lannisters/Alabama, but they are probably the most powerful force in the world at the moment. They have the money, don't really play by the rules, and treat everyone like the peasants they are. When they play you, they don't so much want to beat you but kill you, kill your family, and erase your names from the history books. It seems that every few years some sort of horrific scandal is coming out of Alabama/House Lannister, but people soon forget it after they crush some new foe. As far as leadership goes, both House Lannister and Alabama have the privilege of having a genius and bloodthirsty dwarf in command. While the sigil of House Lannister is a lion and Alabama has an elephant, House Lannister's colors are gold and crimson, which fits in nicely for the Crimson Tide.

Oregon: House Baelish. House Baelish was a speck of a house on the ocean that had no great history or wealth. But through the genius and possibly ill-gotten wealth of one man, that has all changed. Oregon was nothing before Nike founder Phil Knight began making it rain dollars in the Pacific Northwest instead of, you know, rain. Through a combination of absurd wealth and some backroom deals, both Oregon and Baelish are now knocking at the doors of the elite. Plus, both have adorable birds as sigils.

Florida: House Tyrell. Both Florida and House Tyrell think they are royalty, but really both found themselves in very fertile grounds and got lucky. It is hard to fail when you have the richest lands to draw from; large populations on those lands, but surprisingly both Florida and Tyrell seem to fall apart with some regularity. They have neighbors in Miami and House Florent who fell that they are superior and deserve the top spot, but no one else thinks so.

The Big East: The Iron Islands. You could look at individual teams and compare them to individual houses, but what's the point. Both the Ironborn and the Big East live on the coast and like to think they are powerful and deserve respect, but most people ignore them until they get beaten. And when that happens, they turn around and smack them in the mouth until they run away. Both the Big East and the Ironborn like to claim great swathes of land, but have no hopes of actually holding on to any of it. It is tough to be surrounded by far more powerful kingdoms who could crush you with a sneeze.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Valmy on April 11, 2012, 09:51:14 PM
No USC is House Targaryen.  They are about to return to crush us all.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 11, 2012, 09:53:46 PM
QuotePurdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana: House who cares. Seriously, no one cares about the minor houses in the books and no one cares about these teams.

:lol:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 11, 2012, 09:58:11 PM
Quote from: grumbler on April 11, 2012, 09:19:19 PM
The Big East: The Iron Islands. You could look at individual teams and compare them to individual houses, but what's the point. Both the Ironborn and the Big East live on the coast and like to think they are powerful and deserve respect, but most people ignore them until they get beaten. And when that happens, they turn around and smack them in the mouth until they run away. Both the Big East and the Ironborn like to claim great swathes of land, but have no hopes of actually holding on to any of it. It is tough to be surrounded by far more powerful kingdoms who could crush you with a sneeze.
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Is there a good Westerosi analogy for "A Bridge Too Far"?
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: Ed Anger on April 12, 2012, 07:53:57 AM
Now that is some nerdy ass shit.  :lol:
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: grumbler on April 12, 2012, 09:36:26 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 12, 2012, 07:53:57 AM
Now that is some nerdy ass shit.  :lol: 

Indeed.  I'd have expected that to be posted here before anywhere else (though, if posted here, it wouldn't have been funny unless someone like you made it).  As soon as I saw this at MGoBlog I knew where it rightfully belonged.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on April 13, 2012, 12:37:04 AM
There was another one!

http://deadspin.com/5901394?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

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:hmm:  Well then.
Title: Re: NCAA 2012, SEC Uber Alles
Post by: MadImmortalMan on April 13, 2012, 01:54:47 AM
Not bad for an old dude.