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Title: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: jimmy olsen on November 28, 2011, 09:44:19 PM
100-2 is ridiculous. It's hard to imagine.  :huh:

http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2011/11/28/middle-school-hoops-team-might-have-season-canceled-after-100-2-victory/

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Nov 28, 2011, 4:49 PM EST
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Not even the basketball game in Meatballs can compare to the drubbing that the Pikeville (Ky.) Independent Middle School boys handed to Kimper (Ky.) Elementary and Middle School at the Pike County Preseason Tournament recently. After racing to a 70-0 halftime lead (yep), Pikeville eventually won, 100-2. As a result of the blowout, reports began flying that the school district's superintendent and school board might cancel the remainder of Pikeville's season for poor sportsmanship. Those rumors were not true, however.


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This unintentional comedy from Scouts Focus is the funniest thing I've read today:

    [Pikeville coach Bryan] Johnson told Scouts Focus that he received "a lot of flack" from the 100-2 victory through various online and local mediums. Johnson told Scouts Focus that these mediums attempted to stir controversy, which he feels unjustified under the extenuating set of the circumstances.

    Johnson told Scouts Focus that he left his starters in for only 1:48 where they pressed until the lead blossomed to 25-0. Pikeville then proceeded to back up into a 2-3 zone defense for the rest of the half where they ballooned to an unheard of 70-0 lead. Johnson reinserted his starters in the beginning of the second half where he instructed his team to stop playing defense and coax Kimper into scoring. Johnson told Scouts Focus that he had two clear options; to stall the ball or keep playing. Johnson stressed that his goal was to not embarrass any of the opposing kids. Pikeville's attempts of allowing Kimper to score proved fruitless. Johnson told Scouts Focus that the opposition could not hit any of the many open threes or layups they were coaxed freely into pursuing. Kimper did score on a last second lay-in by 6'0 8th grader Adam Thacker.


Just like a Knicks game!

Sorry, that was mean. I sincerely apologize. Kimper could probably play evenly with the Knicks.

But the question remains: as a coach, what do you do when you're ahead 25-0 after 1:48 of the first quarter? And 70-0 at halftime? Remember, you're dealing with kids who haven't even reached high school. Should Pikeville be disciplined for, basically, pounding on a weak kid?
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: HVC on November 28, 2011, 09:48:44 PM
"6'0 8th grader Adam Thacker"? wtf you have a 6' 8th grader and you can't win or at least get more then 2? Also, kid should see a doctor.
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: Razgovory on November 28, 2011, 11:23:07 PM
When I played basketball I managed to score one basket.  Unfortunately It was on the wrong side of the court.  True story. They didn't really want me to play in the school sports after that.  I would lose one-on-one games with the kid with one arm.
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: Eddie Teach on November 28, 2011, 11:25:19 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 28, 2011, 11:23:07 PM
I would lose one-on-one games with the kid with one arm.

I remember that. It was funny.
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: Razgovory on November 28, 2011, 11:34:20 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 28, 2011, 11:25:19 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 28, 2011, 11:23:07 PM
I would lose one-on-one games with the kid with one arm.

I remember that. It was funny.

You do not!  It is true, but you didn't go to Thomas Jefferson Middle School.

It occurs to me you could create a really funny montage of Raz failing at sports.  Getting cracked in the head with a fly ball, being beaned, shooting a basket into the wrong side of the court, bowling an 11, coming in last in every race, punching a guy in football (the guy looked like he was going to hit me!), etc.
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: MadImmortalMan on November 28, 2011, 11:39:05 PM
Pike County. lol

That Kimper coach was probably a damn Hatfield.  :outback:
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: FunkMonk on November 29, 2011, 12:04:11 AM
Raz  :lol: :hug:

Reminds me of a friend of mine. I was watching him bowl against a mutual friend and there was this cute little four year old girl bowling with her mom, using the gutter guards obviously. When my friends' game was over, I peaked at the little girl's final score, 76. My friend scored 75. The mom laughed and praised her daughter and the little girl shook my friend's hand trying to comfort his bruised ego. We gave him shit forever after that.
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: Eddie Teach on November 29, 2011, 12:22:55 AM
Your friend still bowls better than the President and me.  :blush:
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: crazy canuck on November 29, 2011, 12:29:34 AM
Quote from: HVC on November 28, 2011, 09:48:44 PM
"6'0 8th grader Adam Thacker"? wtf you have a 6' 8th grader and you can't win or at least get more then 2? Also, kid should see a doctor.

You must have gone to a school with very short kids.  6' isnt that tall for a kid in grade 8.  I had 4 kids 6 feet or taller on the grade 8 team I coached last year.
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: Razgovory on November 29, 2011, 12:36:39 AM
I was thinking the same thing.  By 8th grade you always have a few kids who early bloomers.
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: Josquius on November 29, 2011, 01:09:36 AM
Bet those kids are really kicking themselves. So near to winning by 100 and yet they fail.

Quote"6'0 8th grader Adam Thacker"? wtf you have a 6' 8th grader and you can't win or at least get more then 2? Also, kid should see a doctor.
Meh, I'm pretty sure I wasn't too far off that when I was in year 8. As said some kids get their growth in early.
And hey, tall doesn't equal good, see also: my high school basketball career :lol:
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: Ideologue on November 29, 2011, 12:10:02 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on November 29, 2011, 12:04:11 AM
Raz  :lol: :hug:

Reminds me of a friend of mine. I was watching him bowl against a mutual friend and there was this cute little four year old girl bowling with her mom, using the gutter guards obviously. When my friends' game was over, I peaked at the little girl's final score, 76. My friend scored 75. The mom laughed and praised her daughter and the little girl shook my friend's hand trying to comfort his bruised ego. We gave him shit forever after that.

I got the fuck beaten out of me the last time I bowled by an eleven year old girl.  But she was actually wicked good; I think her first game was about 200.
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: Siege on November 29, 2011, 07:31:09 PM
Nobody gonna comment on these people with socialist mentallity that don't the great to enjoy their greatness?

Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: Admiral Yi on November 29, 2011, 07:33:57 PM
Quote from: Siege on November 29, 2011, 07:31:09 PM
Nobody gonna comment on these people with socialist mentallity that don't the great to enjoy their greatness?

You don't achieve greatness by beating the shit out of a cripple, you achieve it by beating an equal or greater opponent.

(Not to say the team in question was unfair.  It sounds like they did everything they could.)
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: Siege on November 29, 2011, 07:39:32 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 29, 2011, 07:33:57 PM
Quote from: Siege on November 29, 2011, 07:31:09 PM
Nobody gonna comment on these people with socialist mentallity that don't the great to enjoy their greatness?

You don't achieve greatness by beating the shit out of a cripple, you achieve it by beating an equal or greater opponent.

(Not to say the team in question was unfair.  It sounds like they did everything they could.)

I disagree. You achieve greatness by winning, consistently and with as wide a marging as possible.

Your cripple analogy doesn't work, because this "cripple" walked into the game challenging his oponent.
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: Caliga on November 29, 2011, 07:39:43 PM
Never heard of Kimper, but it's apparently a small town in Pike County.  It's hard to get more redneck in Kentucky than Pike County.  :Canuck:
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: Eddie Teach on November 29, 2011, 07:50:59 PM
Quote from: Siege on November 29, 2011, 07:39:32 PM
I disagree. You achieve greatness by winning, consistently and with as wide a marging as possible.

They beat a group of clumsy 12 year olds who probably didn't know one end of the court from another at basketball, whoop-de-doo.

Yi is right. Beating LeBron James in a close match of 1 on 1 is much more impressive than skunking your little sister a hundred times.
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: grumbler on November 30, 2011, 01:37:09 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 29, 2011, 07:50:59 PM
Quote from: Siege on November 29, 2011, 07:39:32 PM
I disagree. You achieve greatness by winning, consistently and with as wide a marging as possible.

They beat a group of clumsy 12 year olds who probably didn't know one end of the court from another at basketball, whoop-de-doo.

Yi is right. Beating LeBron James in a close match of 1 on 1 is much more impressive than skunking your little sister a hundred times.
Not for Siege.  Remember, he hasn't won yet, so he'll settle for anything.

I agree that, for men who are secure in our masculinity (and maybe some others, but I wouldn't know about them), winning is only impressive if winning was in doubt.
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: crazy canuck on November 30, 2011, 01:54:30 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 29, 2011, 07:33:57 PM
Quote from: Siege on November 29, 2011, 07:31:09 PM
Nobody gonna comment on these people with socialist mentallity that don't the great to enjoy their greatness?

You don't achieve greatness by beating the shit out of a cripple, you achieve it by beating an equal or greater opponent.

(Not to say the team in question was unfair.  It sounds like they did everything they could.)

Yeah, coaching against a much weaker opponent is one of the hardest things to do as a coach.  You need to lay off without turning the experience negative for everyone. 

When faced with this situation - say up 30 or so, on offense I put in a five pass rule before a shot so the kids treat it as a practice scrimmage where they are forced to run the offence and no fast breaks are allowed. On defence no press, no double teams and no denials on the entry pass - which basically just turns the defensive end into a box out drill.

The other team might still get blown out simply because they cant shoot or cant take the ball to the basket very well but at least they get a sense of having played in the game and our kids get some practice running the offense and rebounding.

There is certainly no joy in "winning" such games.  I would much rather play against someone better than us.  The chance of improving is greater and winning such a game can be very gratifying.
Title: Re: Middle school boys hoops team beats opponent 100-2, controversy ensues
Post by: Siege on November 30, 2011, 07:19:03 PM
There is always joy in winning.