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Title: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: jimmy olsen on November 26, 2011, 01:48:43 PM
Awesomesauce! Hopefully it will discover some evidence of past life.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15904408
QuoteGiant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Jonathan Amos By Jonathan Amos Science correspondent, BBC News
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The Atlas 5 launch rocket carrying the Mars rover blasted off from Florida

Nasa has launched the most capable machine ever built to land on Mars.

The near one-tonne rover, tucked inside a capsule, left Florida on an Atlas 5 rocket at 10:02 local time (15:02 GMT).

Nicknamed Curiosity, the rover will take eight and a half months to cross the vast distance to its destination.

If it can land safely next August, the robot will then scour Martian soils and rocks for any signs that current or past environments on the planet could have supported microbial life.

The Atlas flight lasted almost three-quarters of an hour.

By the time the encapsulated rover was ejected on a path to the Red Planet, it was moving at 10km/s (6 miles per second).

Spectacular video taken from the upper-stage of the rocket showed it drifting off into the distance.

"Our spacecraft is in excellent health and it's on its way to Mars," said Curiosity project manager Peter Theisinger.

Nasa received a first communication from the cruising spacecraft about 50 minutes after lift-off through a tracking station in Canberra, Australia.

Controllers will command a course correction manoeuvre in two weeks to refine the trajectory to the Red Planet.

The rover - also known as the Mars Science laboratory (MSL) - is due to arrive at the Red Planet in early August 2012. Then, the hard part begins - landing safely.

One senior space agency official this week called Mars the "Death Planet" because so many missions have failed to get down in one piece.

The Americans, though, have a good recent record and they believe a new rocket-powered descent system will be able to place the rover very precisely in one of the most exciting locations on the planet.

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Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 02:06:26 PM
Hopefully it does not.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: KRonn on November 26, 2011, 02:11:50 PM
We should just collarborate with other space faring nations (Russia, China, for instance) and send a manned flight there. Share the costs and knowledge. Set up a scientific post for some research.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: jimmy olsen on November 26, 2011, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 02:06:26 PM
Hopefully it does not.
Why not?
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
hopefully it will find oil and uranium.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 26, 2011, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 02:06:26 PM
Hopefully it does not.
Why not?
Just to annoy you.  And then they'll stop looking.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
hopefully it will find oil and uranium.
Why?  What good would those things do?
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 03:07:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
hopefully it will find oil and uranium.
Why?  What good would those things do?

well, I am fine with them finding anything which would kick start the industrialization of the solar system.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:15:26 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 03:07:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
hopefully it will find oil and uranium.
Why?  What good would those things do?
well, I am fine with them finding anything which would kick start the industrialization of the solar system.
Unobtanium?  Magnetic monopoles?  Element X?  A working mass relay?

There's nothing feasibly there that's worth getting.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Tonitrus on November 26, 2011, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:15:26 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 03:07:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
hopefully it will find oil and uranium.
Why?  What good would those things do?
well, I am fine with them finding anything which would kick start the industrialization of the solar system.
Unobtanium?  Magnetic monopoles?  Element X?  A working mass relay?

There's nothing feasibly there that's worth getting.

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:unsure:
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: jimmy olsen on November 26, 2011, 04:03:24 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:15:26 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 03:07:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
hopefully it will find oil and uranium.
Why?  What good would those things do?
well, I am fine with them finding anything which would kick start the industrialization of the solar system.
Unobtanium?  Magnetic monopoles?  Element X?  A working mass relay?

There's nothing feasibly there that's worth getting.
The secrets of the Anti-life equation?
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 04:28:45 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:15:26 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 03:07:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
hopefully it will find oil and uranium.
Why?  What good would those things do?
well, I am fine with them finding anything which would kick start the industrialization of the solar system.
Unobtanium?  Magnetic monopoles?  Element X?  A working mass relay?

There's nothing feasibly there that's worth getting.

Maybe not yet, but we are getting there. It is inevitable. I would just like to live to see it.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Caliga on November 26, 2011, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 26, 2011, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 02:06:26 PM
Hopefully it does not.
Why not?
Just to annoy you.  And then they'll stop looking.
Nope.  What you're forgetting is that most NASA scientists are Tims with PhDs.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Neil on November 26, 2011, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on November 26, 2011, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:15:26 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 03:07:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: Tamas on November 26, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
hopefully it will find oil and uranium.
Why?  What good would those things do?
well, I am fine with them finding anything which would kick start the industrialization of the solar system.
Unobtanium?  Magnetic monopoles?  Element X?  A working mass relay?

There's nothing feasibly there that's worth getting.
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:unsure:
There are bad girls here already.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 06:23:27 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 26, 2011, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 02:06:26 PM
Hopefully it does not.
Why not?

We've been over this before.  Finding life in the solar system is a really bad sign.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Neil on November 26, 2011, 06:23:41 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 26, 2011, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 03:04:26 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 26, 2011, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 02:06:26 PM
Hopefully it does not.
Why not?
Just to annoy you.  And then they'll stop looking.
Nope.  What you're forgetting is that most NASA scientists are Tims with PhDs.
Perhaps, but high profile failures make Congress unwilling to fund science, primarily because Congressmen are horribly stupid.  Nevertheless, sometimes it works to our advantage in annoying Tim.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Neil on November 26, 2011, 06:24:24 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 06:23:27 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 26, 2011, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 02:06:26 PM
Hopefully it does not.
Why not?
We've been over this before.  Finding life in the solar system is a really bad sign.
I don't recall that discussion.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 06:31:34 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 06:24:24 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 06:23:27 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 26, 2011, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 02:06:26 PM
Hopefully it does not.
Why not?
We've been over this before.  Finding life in the solar system is a really bad sign.
I don't recall that discussion.

Great Filter.  Something keeps aliens from visiting Earth.  Or being seen from Earth.  We don't know what it is.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter  Finding life on Mars moves that filter up a step.  If that filter moves up to a point beyond where we are, then it's unlikely we'll have interstellar travel.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Neil on November 26, 2011, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 06:31:34 PM
Great Filter.  Something keeps aliens from visiting Earth.  Or being seen from Earth.  We don't know what it is.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter  Finding life on Mars moves that filter up a step.  If that filter moves up to a point beyond where we are, then it's unlikely we'll have interstellar travel.
It's unlikely that we'll have interstellar travel.

That said, I don't think that life on Mars, past or present, makes a difference.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Siege on November 26, 2011, 07:53:57 PM
"There is a 95% chance of extinction within 9120 years." (Doomsday Argument)


Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 08:06:11 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 06:31:34 PM
Great Filter.  Something keeps aliens from visiting Earth.  Or being seen from Earth.  We don't know what it is.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter  Finding life on Mars moves that filter up a step.  If that filter moves up to a point beyond where we are, then it's unlikely we'll have interstellar travel.
It's unlikely that we'll have interstellar travel.

That said, I don't think that life on Mars, past or present, makes a difference.

I should have made myself more clear.  When I said "we", I meant the Human species.  Not "Razgovory and Neil".  I think it's unlikely that the two of us will have interstellar travel.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Neil on November 26, 2011, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 08:06:11 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 26, 2011, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 06:31:34 PM
Great Filter.  Something keeps aliens from visiting Earth.  Or being seen from Earth.  We don't know what it is.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter  Finding life on Mars moves that filter up a step.  If that filter moves up to a point beyond where we are, then it's unlikely we'll have interstellar travel.
It's unlikely that we'll have interstellar travel.

That said, I don't think that life on Mars, past or present, makes a difference.
I should have made myself more clear.  When I said "we", I meant the Human species.  Not "Razgovory and Neil".  I think it's unlikely that the two of us will have interstellar travel.
The human species isn't likely to have interstellar travel at any point.  The ramscoop is a great idea that probably won't work, and the devoting the resources to anything else isn't feasible.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 09:22:15 PM
Yeah, the Ramscoop looked like the idea, but it looks like it won't work in our part of the galaxy.
Title: Re: Giant Nasa rover launches to Mars
Post by: Razgovory on November 26, 2011, 09:23:23 PM
Quote from: Caliga on November 26, 2011, 04:59:21 PM
Nope.  What you're forgetting is that most NASA scientists are Tims with PhDs.

Having a PhD in some scientific discipline sort a precludes you from be so credulous in scientific matters.