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Title: Dark Souls
Post by: fhdz on November 21, 2011, 08:36:38 PM
Anybody playing this for Xbox or PS3? Looks phenomenal. Every review I've read makes it SOUND phenomenal.

What are your thoughts, Languish?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Grey Fox on November 21, 2011, 08:45:57 PM
Have you ever been kidnap before? Did you suffer from stockholm syndrom? That's a lot like playing any Souls game.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: fhdz on November 21, 2011, 10:03:29 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 21, 2011, 08:45:57 PM
Have you ever been kidnap before? Did you suffer from stockholm syndrom? That's a lot like playing any Souls game.

:wub:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on November 22, 2011, 01:09:59 AM
It sounds great, but I've stayed away, because it sounds too time consuming and frustrating for my liking. From what I've read the game is hard and you can expect to die very often till you figure out how a certain part is supposed to be beaten. From the descriptions it reminds me of old Konami games like Contra in that regard. Fun games, but I don't really have the patience or time anymore to tackle a certain part a dopzen or more times to figure out how I get past it.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Josephus on November 23, 2011, 05:28:45 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 21, 2011, 08:45:57 PM
Have you ever been kidnap before? Did you suffer from stockholm syndrom? That's a lot like playing any Souls game.

Is that good or bad? (I can't tell since I've never been kidnapped)

I'm trying to find a good game to get for PS3, other than my soccer games, and I'm running up against a wall all the time.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Octavian on November 23, 2011, 05:52:42 PM
Quote from: Josephus on November 23, 2011, 05:28:45 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on November 21, 2011, 08:45:57 PM
Have you ever been kidnap before? Did you suffer from stockholm syndrom? That's a lot like playing any Souls game.

Is that good or bad? (I can't tell since I've never been kidnapped)

I'm trying to find a good game to get for PS3, other than my soccer games, and I'm running up against a wall all the time.

From what I understand this game will make you bang your head against the wall.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Josephus on November 23, 2011, 06:29:00 PM
Quote from: Octavian on November 23, 2011, 05:52:42 PM

From what I understand this game will make you bang your head against the wall.

Fuck it then.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: fhdz on November 26, 2011, 02:51:34 AM
It's fantastic.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: The Brain on November 26, 2011, 02:52:17 AM
What kind of wall do you have?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: fhdz on November 26, 2011, 02:59:41 AM
Quote from: The Brain on November 26, 2011, 02:52:17 AM
What kind of wall do you have?

A dungeon wall, of course :perv:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: The Brain on November 26, 2011, 03:01:54 AM
 :o
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on August 02, 2015, 04:04:10 AM
So, I'm currently bashing my head again against this particular rock.

9 hours into my char I'm still in the Undead Burg, and still haven't beaten the first boss after the Asylum. Or the Black Knight (got the ring he guards from leaping off a bride, though). :lol:

I have no trouble with the normal enemies, and I did get pretty far into the Black Knight a few times, but one missed parry and I'm all fucked. :ph34r:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Caliga on August 02, 2015, 10:02:50 AM
I never tried this one out because I heard from multiple people that this game is too hard.  I barely have time for games anymore so I definitely don't have an interest in playing shit over and over cause it's hard.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Brezel on August 02, 2015, 10:33:17 AM
Quote from: Syt on August 02, 2015, 04:04:10 AM
So, I'm currently bashing my head again against this particular rock.

9 hours into my char I'm still in the Undead Burg, and still haven't beaten the first boss after the Asylum. Or the Black Knight (got the ring he guards from leaping off a bride, though). :lol:

I have no trouble with the normal enemies, and I did get pretty far into the Black Knight a few times, but one missed parry and I'm all fucked. :ph34r:

Just ignore the black knights until you get to a bit higher level. Also try acquring the drake sword.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on August 02, 2015, 10:42:34 AM
Well, turns out the Black Knight was easy - I did the ripostes after parrying wrong.  :blush:

Getting close on the Taurus demon now.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on August 02, 2015, 12:55:08 PM
Quote from: Caliga on August 02, 2015, 10:02:50 AM
I never tried this one out because I heard from multiple people that this game is too hard.  I barely have time for games anymore so I definitely don't have an interest in playing shit over and over cause it's hard.

I love the atmosphere of the game. But yeah, it's a learning experience (and un-learning from other games) - your moves, enemy moves (and tells), geography ...

I was ready to give up, thinking this was a game for hardcore gamers to brag about.

But this article changed my attitude and gave me a much more zen approach: http://www.gamesradar.com/why-dark-souls-friendliest-most-benevolent-game-its-generation/

I'm now not frustrated if I get stuck; instead I try different approaches, tactics and equipment, to see if something works better for me (and YMMV on what works for you - maybe you prefer bows over swords, or two handers over daggers, light armor over plate), or just to perfect myself against certain enemies. It's a game that forces you to go slow and not rush head first into things. And if I die I know it's because I was careless or didn't pay attention.


Oh, and I managed to beat the Taurus demon.  :bowler:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Brezel on August 02, 2015, 01:21:23 PM
Dark Souls certainly has an unique atmosphere. It also gets somewhat easier once you've built your character enough to effectively utilize the scaling of weapons and armors. Back in the day I put over 100 hours into the game but never finished it - I became too preoccupied with other things and was thus unable to devote enough time to beating the frickin' four kings. Might have to get back to it one of these days.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Razgovory on August 02, 2015, 09:23:48 PM
I only have a PC, I can get on PC but would it be best if I had an Xbox controller?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on August 02, 2015, 10:54:21 PM
An Xbox Controller is highly recommended, yes. I haven't tried mouse and keyboard, but the general consensus is that it's ass to play with them.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on January 28, 2016, 03:52:36 AM
Since I still have an interest in the game I thought I'd watch a Let's Play to see it in its entirety (I've watched streamers play it on Twitch, but that way I only catch bits and pieces).

But every time I see someone else play this game I get the itch to play it myself. So I've re-installed and try a strength based build this time around. Dodging is slow as fuck in heavy armor, but I made it from the Asylum to the bonfire in the Undead Burg without dying once. :cool:

I think I may be in an abusive relationship with this game at this point where it keeps mistreating me but even if I try to cut it off I eventually come back for more, despite me not really getting anywhere with it. :ph34r:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on January 28, 2016, 04:00:33 AM
The game also reminds me a lot of the first Legend of Zelda on NES. You're thrown in a world you know almost nothing about and get vague instructions. You have to figure out geography, enemies, boss patterns, what weapon/item to use in which circumstance, how to time your attacks/evasions, when to fight and when to run .... the only people you meet are weirdo shop keepers or characters giving cryptic hints. And there's a lot of exploring/secret hunting to be done.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on March 06, 2016, 04:27:01 PM
I accidentally wiped my save, so I restarted. 11 hours in I've made it back into the Depths (I have a tendency to grind Undead Burg/Parish for a while). Even managed to kill Gargoyles, Taurus Demon and Capra Demon on first try. :smarty: Also, I've started to appreciate the use of bow and arrow that I've used to cheese some bosses, like the Titanite Demon in Andre's basement, the Great Undead Rat in the Depths, or the drake on the bridge. :blush:

And I love how the game sometimes throws you off. Went to try a new weapon in the church, suddenly get jumped by a weird crab thingy that shoots at me and that I haven't seen in almost 50 hours of play, many of which spent in that area. Wiki says it's a creature that can be spawned if another player dropped a lot of humanity (a resource) in a spot when they died.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Alcibiades on March 08, 2016, 01:38:31 AM
Picked up ds2 on the steam sale last month.  Haven't gotten around to playing it.  Shouldn't bother with just a mouse and keyboard?  :hmm:

I never played the first one. 
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on March 08, 2016, 08:43:02 AM
Haven't played DS2 myself yet, but I understand it's a bit more accessible (DS1 doesn't explain some of its mechanics much at the start beyond controls - text tips often aren't all that helpful). DS1 requires you to learn its mechanics, figure things out, and explore (or use a guide :blush: ). In game messages left by other players are either helpful or aim to confuse you. What lore there is is told through environments and item descriptions for the most part.

DS2 delivers more of the same, mostly, and generally seems to change DS1's mix of armored enemies and grotesque demons more towards the "dudes in armor" end of the spectrum.

Overall, DS1 appears to be held in better regard, but that may be because it came first. Again, haven't played DS2 yet, so can't comment.

Dark Souls games (and Bloodborne) have the reputation of being very hard. They are, but they're not unfair. You can learn all patterns of enemies, and you will learn how to deal with them; what's a smart move, and what doesn't work. The games allow for a variety of play styles, and selecting your starting class has little relevance, because you can level up your character to whatever you like (provided you don't mind some grinding). Switching gear up depending on situation is important.

I used to get very frustrated at first. But you will get better. The game will very rarely be unfair. If you die, in most cases it will be because you did the wrong thing at the wrong time or overlooked something, not because you were trolled by a hidden trap, or an enemy move that wasn't telegraphed in some way. Boss fights can be tough, but but it again comes down to learning patterns, experimenting with different weapons/items, and timing.

It's a game to take slowly, and you will die. A lot. A whole lot. It's important to: not be afraid of dying (the penalties aren't that severe), or lose some process (in the form of souls). If you die, your collected souls (currency to buy things and level up) will drop where you died. If you die again, they're gone.

When exploring a new area it's smart to make sure you've spent your souls, and if you collect more and are worried to lose them - spend them. Upgrading weapons is very important.

Check some newbie guides (spoiler free).

I've spent 50 hours in DS1, have ye to finish the first act, but I'm having a great time gawking at the world, learning its rules and slowly becoming better at the game. There'll be quite a few "aha" moments when you figure out how to deal with threats ever more efficiently, and how to clear out certain areas you visit often, but becoming to self assured can still mean a quick death. The main causes of death in the game are probably carelessness and greed.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on March 08, 2016, 06:01:28 PM
Tonight, I returned to the Undead Asylum (the tutorial area) and collected the items there, but didn't fight the (optional) demon boss there. I went back to the depths, farmed slimes for Large Titanite and then went back to the Undead Parish to upgrade my scimitar to +9. Afterwards I returned to Firelink Shrine to try and clear out the graveyard for the loot. If you're careful about how many enemies you draw it's not that bad, though the giant skeletons can be a bit of a pain in the neck if you end up in a corner. I hope to take out the Gaping Dragon this week so I can get to Blighttown.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdarksouls-portuguese.wiki.fextralife.com%2Ffile%2Fview%2F24_Gaping-Dragon_Screenshots_DS_DEADENDTHRILLS.COM.jpg%2F491820276%2F1280x690%2F24_Gaping-Dragon_Screenshots_DS_DEADENDTHRILLS.COM.jpg&hash=32e08c802403f6c1180af8367754fd79b789a60a)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on January 29, 2017, 03:15:00 PM
I've been playing this on and off again the last few weeks. After getting somewhat annoyed at Lost Izalith I took a break of over half a year or so.

Beat Bed of Chaos last weekend, killed Nito this weekend. Next up are Ash Lake, Dukal Archives, and the Expansion.

My save game is coming up on 80 hours, though I spent a lot of time grinding souls and upgrade mats, or sloooowly killing enemies from far, far away with arrows.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on February 20, 2017, 08:21:15 AM
Continuing my glacial progress with the game. Made it down the Great Hollow (think giant tree connecting upper world and a weird netherworld below the "real" world) to Ash Lake for, well, sightseeing purposes since this is an optional area (and killing the Hydra).

(Not my screenshot below)

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdarksouls.wiki.fextralife.com%2Ffile%2FDark-Souls%2F20111108220734.jpg&hash=b0567777f8df9019d5438913a6b9ea749a992a84)

I'm now on my way to acquire the last Lord Soul which will unlock the final encounter (though I'll do the expansion first). Currently in the Duke's Archives where Seath, the scale-less dragon, studies magic to attain immortality.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on March 22, 2019, 11:16:47 AM
A few streamers have, over the last couple of months, tried to beat the Soulsborne games (Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 1-3, Bloodborne) without getting hit. Seems Happy Hob who was first to beat DS1-3 hitless comes first here, too - the clip when he beat the final boss: https://clips.twitch.tv/LivelySpineyLemurMrDestructoid?tt_medium=clips_api&tt_content=url

To keep things manageable, he only did the mandatory story bosses (so no DLC bosses).

I guess the next challenge will be to run all bosses hitless, or adding Sekiro to the mix.

I like the Souls games, but this seems like insane obsession. :D
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Solmyr on April 01, 2019, 08:10:42 AM
Can someone recommend a nice Let's play of any of the Souls games and/or Sekiro, preferably with a bit of seeing the world instead of rushing through or doing gimmicks? I doubt I'll ever play these games myself, but I'm interested in seeing what the fuss is about.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: frunk on April 01, 2019, 09:37:19 AM
Here's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0zS4q_4VnU) the only one I've watched.

QuoteAll text has been run through Google Translate 14 times, and every item and enemy placement has been randomized.

So, uh, probably not that useful.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on April 01, 2019, 01:09:20 PM
My go to person for that is Keith Ballard who's played through the Soulsborne games in a pretty chill, relaxed fashion. He does a lot of exploring, in general, and he doesn't edit out too much (except when he has to repeat content extensively because he died, or fights a boss for 3 hours). He does a lot of soulslikes - here's is his collected playlists for that: 

https://www.youtube.com/user/SebastianSB/playlists?view=50&sort=dd&shelf_id=12

(He does other games, too, though.)

His reading lore texts is a bit tedious, because he sometimes misses obvious stuff, or stumbles over the words a lot, but I find his videos perfect for having on in the background, and the episode length is bearable (usually 20-40 minutes).

I think his Dark Souls II - Scholar of the First Sin and Bloodborne playthroughs are good starting points to see if you like his style.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Syt on October 05, 2019, 12:45:58 AM
Squillakilla is the first to beat Dark Souls 1 - 3 at Level 1 without being hit: https://youtu.be/g4_c1Ot9YVk

I recommend people check him out - one of the most chill streamers, with a soothing voice - perfect for background viewing/lurking. :)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Berkut on October 06, 2019, 08:45:13 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 22, 2019, 11:16:47 AM
A few streamers have, over the last couple of months, tried to beat the Soulsborne games (Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 1-3, Bloodborne) without getting hit. Seems Happy Hob who was first to beat DS1-3 hitless comes first here, too - the clip when he beat the final boss: https://clips.twitch.tv/LivelySpineyLemurMrDestructoid?tt_medium=clips_api&tt_content=url

To keep things manageable, he only did the mandatory story bosses (so no DLC bosses).

I guess the next challenge will be to run all bosses hitless, or adding Sekiro to the mix.

I like the Souls games, but this seems like insane obsession. :D

WHy was he all crying and stuff? How did that dog fit into it?