It was like big on the news and we were all going to die and all, but then it suddenly went off the radar. Was anyone held liable? Was it stopped? :huh:
Most of the "we're all gonna die" theories turn out to be crap. Are you surprised?
The apocalypse was supposed to be a couple days ago too.
Quote from: Martinus on October 27, 2011, 03:00:23 PMWas anyone held liable?
BP. And their CEO was fired.
QuoteWas it stopped? :huh:
Yes, took about a 100 days or so. There was a lot of media reports on that, so it didn't suddenly go off the radar.
Quote from: Martinus on October 27, 2011, 03:00:23 PM
It was like big on the news and we were all going to die and all, but then it suddenly went off the radar. Was anyone held liable? Was it stopped? :huh:
The oil spill fucked up a lot of the Gulf, killed a lot of animals, ruined the oysters and fishing, and sprayed chemical contaminants everywhere. BP cut a lot of checks to a lot of people. Ultimately everyone not in the Gulf realized they didn't care about it and started ignoring coverage.
Though to us in the oil bizness it's pretty clear what probably happened. Probably doesn't cut it for the lawyers who can't tell a packer from a plug. So it's still caught in the courts. The ADHD infecting reporters means that none of the stuff actually happening is getting reported. BP is going to pay a really really really big fine (which they have already set aside the money for) while BP will sue it's sub-contractors who will settle out of court for smaller sums.
Edit: The BP CEO wasn't fired he was transferred to Russia and will retire when the time is right. iirc
QuoteRelease date: 27 July 2010
BP today announced that, by mutual agreement with the BP board, Tony Hayward is to step down as group chief executive with effect from October 1, 2010. He will be succeeded as of that date by fellow executive director Robert Dudley.
http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=2012968&contentId=7063976
Mutual agreement is public relations bullshit and means he was fired. There were recently reports that he is now working for some kind of investment company that invests into Central Asian or Russian oil wells and pipelines IIRC.
He's not working for, he set up a firm with Nat Rothschild and a lot of private equity money behind them.
Quote from: ulmont on October 27, 2011, 03:08:25 PM
BP cut a lot of checks to a lot of people.
This is the main reason the story didn't have legs. You need fisherman bitching about not getting paid for the media to care.
[Marti] So what about World War Two? It was like big on the news and we were all going to die and all, but then it suddenly went off the radar. Was anyone held liable? Was it stopped? :huh:[/Marti]
Some bacteria ate quite a bit of the oil, oddly.
BP settled with Anadarko, who paid them $4bn as their share of the disaster :
http://www.dailyfinance.com/article/bp-anadarko-settle-gulf-disaster-claims/1948991/
BP has also been given permission to drill in the Gulf of Mexico again by the US :
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-26/bp-wins-u-s-approval-to-drill-well-in-gulf-s-deep-waters-1-.html
.....and, as fahdiz remarked, turns out that the gulf of Mexico constantly leaks oil and has bacteria that mop most of it up.
So, the compensation fund is $20bn and the lawyers will argue for years, but in general it is back to normal business.
But Japan is a radioactive wasteland, right?
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on October 27, 2011, 05:21:23 PM
.....and, as fahdiz remarked, turns out that the gulf of Mexico constantly leaks oil and has bacteria that mop most of it up.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/08/24/oil-eating-bacteria-have-started-to-clean-the-deepwater-horizon-spill/
Pretty amazing stuff.
Quote from: The Brain on October 27, 2011, 05:23:17 PM
But Japan is a radioactive wasteland, right?
Now you're teasing us. That's cruel.
Quote from: Viking on October 27, 2011, 03:09:01 PM
Though to us in the oil bizness it's pretty clear what probably happened. Probably doesn't cut it for the lawyers who can't tell a packer from a plug. So it's still caught in the courts. The ADHD infecting reporters means that none of the stuff actually happening is getting reported. BP is going to pay a really really really big fine (which they have already set aside the money for) while BP will sue it's sub-contractors who will settle out of court for smaller sums.
Edit: The BP CEO wasn't fired he was transferred to Russia and will retire when the time is right. iirc
A polonium watch?
Quote from: fahdiz on October 27, 2011, 05:50:00 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on October 27, 2011, 05:21:23 PM
.....and, as fahdiz remarked, turns out that the gulf of Mexico constantly leaks oil and has bacteria that mop most of it up.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/08/24/oil-eating-bacteria-have-started-to-clean-the-deepwater-horizon-spill/
Pretty amazing stuff.
Pretty alarming, actually. Now we don't just have Chinese to compete with for oil, we now have to compete with bacteria as well. :(
Quote from: DGuller on October 27, 2011, 06:03:38 PM
Pretty alarming, actually. Now we don't just have Chinese to compete with for oil, we now have to compete with bacteria as well. :(
They'll outlive us all :(
The bacteria, that is; not the Chinese.
All that oil, lost to bacteria. How can we fight an enemy so small? :(
Quote from: Habbaku on October 27, 2011, 06:20:26 PM
All that oil, lost to bacteria. How can we fight an enemy so small? :(
We can spill a bunch of antibiotics next, or just route the drinking water into the Gulf.
Quote from: Martinus on October 27, 2011, 03:00:23 PM
It was like big on the news and we were all going to die and all, but then it suddenly went off the radar. Was anyone held liable? Was it stopped? :huh:
They paid the media.
There has been quite a bit of coverage lately, which Richard summarized. Anadarko settled and negotiations are ongoing with the rest of the subs. BP is filling up its comp fund faster than expected, but could face more exposure if the us government pushes for higher regulatory penalties.
Quote from: DGuller on October 27, 2011, 06:25:45 PM
We can spill a bunch of antibiotics next
What doesn't kill them will only make them stronger. :(
Anyway in September of 2010...
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/16/science/la-sci-oil-20100917
QuoteBacteria in the gulf mostly digested gas, not oil, study finds
The discovery tempers hopes that microorganisms have eaten up most of the spilled oil in the gulf, as other scientists had recently suggested, the lead author says.
Quote from: garbon on October 27, 2011, 10:34:30 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 27, 2011, 06:25:45 PM
We can spill a bunch of antibiotics next
What doesn't kill them will only make them stronger. :(
We'll have to keep spilling them for 10 days.
Quote from: grumbler on October 27, 2011, 04:40:25 PM
[Marti] So what about World War Two? It was like big on the news and we were all going to die and all, but then it suddenly went off the radar. Was anyone held liable? Was it stopped? :huh:[/Marti]
WW2 ended definitely. It appears from the responses of others that the BP spill is still going on although it is partially contained.
You can be such an obnoxious retard at times. You are one of the two my least favourite people on Languish.
Quote from: garbon on October 27, 2011, 10:34:30 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 27, 2011, 06:25:45 PM
We can spill a bunch of antibiotics next
What doesn't kill them will only make them stronger. :(
Ok, so in a typical Western civilization way, we dealt with it to the style of "There was a woman who swallowed a fly.... Oh look, pretty colors. News at 11".
Quote from: Martinus on October 28, 2011, 06:05:55 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 27, 2011, 10:34:30 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 27, 2011, 06:25:45 PM
We can spill a bunch of antibiotics next
What doesn't kill them will only make them stronger. :(
Ok, so in a typical Western civilization way, we dealt with it to the style of "There was a woman who swallowed a fly.... Oh look, pretty colors. News at 11".
I've no idea what you are talking about.
Quote from: Martinus on October 28, 2011, 06:03:47 AMIt appears from the responses of others that the BP spill is still going on although it is partially contained.
You must have misunderstood that. The oil well was closed and eventually filled with concrete. The spill is over.
Quote from: Zanza on October 28, 2011, 07:39:53 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 28, 2011, 06:03:47 AMIt appears from the responses of others that the BP spill is still going on although it is partially contained.
You must have misunderstood that. The oil well was closed and eventually filled with concrete. The spill is over.
Oh ok. That's the piece of info I was missing. :P
Quote from: Martinus on October 28, 2011, 06:03:47 AM
WW2 ended definitely. It appears from the responses of others that the BP spill is still going on although it is partially contained.
It appears from the responses of others (and the reporting of the news media) that "spill" ended in September 2010, and that it is entirely "contained."
QuoteYou can be such an obnoxious retard at times.
:lmfao:
You are the completely ignorant of the end of a major (at times
the major) news stories of 2010, and
I am the retard?
That you find me "obnoxious" makes me happy.
QuoteYou are one of the two my least favourite people on Languish.
Excellent! Don't just ragequit on my behalf, though. Think of the other members of the forum, and ragequit for their sake.
Or stay. I find your combination of arrogance and stupidity highly entertaining. So long as you are here, no one else needs to worry about being the most pathetic member of the forum.
:yeah:
Quote from: grumbler on October 28, 2011, 08:48:51 AM
Or stay. I find your combination of arrogance and stupidity highly entertaining. So long as you are here, no one else needs to worry about being the most pathetic member of the forum.
I can at least make a run at it, can't I?
I am just sad Marti didnt name me as the second of his least favourite forum members. :cry:
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Quote from: fahdiz on October 27, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
Some bacteria ate quite a bit of the oil, oddly.
What happened to the bacteria after that? Where did they go, or morph into?? :unsure:
Quote from: KRonn on October 28, 2011, 11:29:05 AM
What happened to the bacteria after that? Where did they go, or morph into?? :unsure:
Sea animals eat them I think.
Quote from: KRonn on October 28, 2011, 11:29:05 AM
What happened to the bacteria after that? Where did they go, or morph into?? :unsure:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.swotti.com%2Ftmp%2Fswotti%2FcacheZ29KEMLSBGE%3DRW50ZXJ0YWLUBWVUDC1NB3ZPZXM%3D%2FimgGodzilla3.jpg&hash=5ef5221f410c11da3348c7c98be821cb23dcafb3)
:yuk: I rest my case on non-white women.
Quote from: KRonn on October 28, 2011, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on October 27, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
Some bacteria ate quite a bit of the oil, oddly.
What happened to the bacteria after that? Where did they go, or morph into?? :unsure:
I don't think they "go" anywhere. They don't really morph into other things. They just split into other bacteria. If all they can eat is oil, then I imagine they'll die off when there is no more oil. If they can metabolize other forms of energy I suppose they'll stick around. A better question might be "what kind of chemical do they emit as a byproduct".
Quote from: The Brain on October 28, 2011, 11:45:32 AM
:yuk: I rest my case on non-white women.
Godzilla's got more than just junk in his trunk.
Quote from: Razgovory on October 28, 2011, 11:48:39 AM
Quote from: KRonn on October 28, 2011, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on October 27, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
Some bacteria ate quite a bit of the oil, oddly.
What happened to the bacteria after that? Where did they go, or morph into?? :unsure:
I don't think they "go" anywhere. They don't really morph into other things. They just split into other bacteria. If all they can eat is oil, then I imagine they'll die off when there is no more oil. If they can metabolize other forms of energy I suppose they'll stick around. A better question might be "what kind of chemical do they emit as a byproduct".
Yeah, I assume they die off, or remain and can survive. I do wonder if they can cause any environmental problems though, if they do remain. Any unwanted consequences? What ever the case, it's probably much better than having all that oil around!
Quote from: Razgovory on October 28, 2011, 11:48:39 AM
Quote from: KRonn on October 28, 2011, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on October 27, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
Some bacteria ate quite a bit of the oil, oddly.
What happened to the bacteria after that? Where did they go, or morph into?? :unsure:
I don't think they "go" anywhere. They don't really morph into other things. They just split into other bacteria. If all they can eat is oil, then I imagine they'll die off when there is no more oil. If they can metabolize other forms of energy I suppose they'll stick around. A better question might be "what kind of chemical do they emit as a byproduct".
Considering that oil are just plain old carbon-hydrogen chains my guess would be carbondioxide and water. Unless they are anaerobic that is.
Quote from: Martinus on October 28, 2011, 06:03:47 AM
You can be such an obnoxious retard at times. You are one of the two my least favourite people on Languish.
Go on. We all know you want to share the list with us. :)
Quote from: KRonn on October 28, 2011, 12:10:37 PM
Yeah, I assume they die off, or remain and can survive. I do wonder if they can cause any environmental problems though, if they do remain. Any unwanted consequences? What ever the case, it's probably much better than having all that oil around!
THey remain regardless. They're down there eating the oil (and other stuff) which leaks out of the earth at that depth constantly anyway.
Quote from: Martinus on October 28, 2011, 06:03:47 AM
Quote from: grumbler on October 27, 2011, 04:40:25 PM
[Marti] So what about World War Two? It was like big on the news and we were all going to die and all, but then it suddenly went off the radar. Was anyone held liable? Was it stopped? :huh:[/Marti]
WW2 ended definitely.
you sure? I thought Russia and Japan hadn't signed the peace yet.
They automatically white peaced in 1948.
Also: the dudes who capped that well are truly amazing engineers and repairmen. Regardless of the fact that they work for Evil And Not Very Nice BP (none of them were likely responsible for the safety flaws anyway) they are, in my opinion, heroes.
This article from July of last year on this topic is pretty neat, and changed the way I thought about the situation a bit:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/07/fix-it/
I still like Kevin Costner's waterworld contraptions he brought to the gulf.
Quote from: Berkut on October 28, 2011, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: grumbler on October 28, 2011, 08:48:51 AM
Or stay. I find your combination of arrogance and stupidity highly entertaining. So long as you are here, no one else needs to worry about being the most pathetic member of the forum.
I can at least make a run at it, can't I?
Nah. You're quite tolerable. Your most annoying trait was always your militant atheism, but Viking is worse. Nobody's as bad as you are when it comes to hating on Ray Lewis, but you've gotten soft in that regard.
No, I generally enjoy your contributions.
Quote from: DGuller on October 28, 2011, 12:32:09 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 28, 2011, 06:03:47 AM
You can be such an obnoxious retard at times. You are one of the two my least favourite people on Languish.
Go on. We all know you want to share the list with us. :)
I hope I'm high on that list.