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Title: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: Slargos on September 25, 2011, 03:09:27 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_19431_5-mind-blowing-things-crowds-do-better-than-experts.html

Amaztacular.  :cool:
Title: Re: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: Habbaku on September 25, 2011, 03:28:10 PM
We used to have crowds that were really good at doing things here in the South, but the Yankees made us stop.
Title: Re: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on September 25, 2011, 04:03:23 PM
I didn't know that about CAPTCHA.  That's pretty cool.
Title: Re: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: Siege on September 25, 2011, 09:29:23 PM
Ridiculous.
Title: Re: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: garbon on September 25, 2011, 09:33:31 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 25, 2011, 04:03:23 PM
I didn't know that about CAPTCHA.  That's pretty cool.

Me neither. Now I'm not as annoyed.
Title: Re: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 26, 2011, 12:08:35 AM
These coincidences are just amazing!

http://www.cracked.com/article_18788_the-5-most-mind-blowing-coincidences-all-time.html?wa_user1=5&wa_user2=History&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=recommended
Title: Re: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: Warspite on September 26, 2011, 09:35:15 AM
How does the Captcha thing work then? Because surely in order to detect whether I have entered the word properly, it needs to know what it is - which defeats the purpose of using it to determine an illegible word.
Title: Re: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: Maximus on September 26, 2011, 09:48:31 AM
Probably by giving the word out to a number of random people on the principle that the majority of them will answer correctly. It could have some confidence threshold and keep throwing the same word out until it reaches it.
Title: Re: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on September 26, 2011, 10:01:07 AM
Sometimes they'll give you two capchas -- a scanned word from a text and then some known word or gibberish. It assumes that if you got the known one right then you also got the scanned word right.
Title: Re: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: Josquius on September 26, 2011, 10:22:07 AM
I covered crowd sourcing a bit in my degree, it is pretty powerful stuff.
Never heard of this somali pirate thing, interesting. Most crowd sourcing I've heard of was done by less cool means, just the power of large online communities to figure out problems.
Title: Re: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: Ideologue on September 26, 2011, 10:33:10 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 26, 2011, 12:08:35 AM
These coincidences are just amazing!

http://www.cracked.com/article_18788_the-5-most-mind-blowing-coincidences-all-time.html?wa_user1=5&wa_user2=History&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=recommended

I like the article about Islam that says that Muslims have historically been very mild conquerors and soldiers and doesn't mention the name "Timur" once.
Title: Re: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: Tamas on September 26, 2011, 11:06:45 AM
Quote from: Maximus on September 26, 2011, 09:48:31 AM
Probably by giving the word out to a number of random people on the principle that the majority of them will answer correctly. It could have some confidence threshold and keep throwing the same word out until it reaches it.

Thats fine, except that it is used to determine your human-ness on the spot. It is not a questionaire, it is a security measure. If it does not have a method of instant verification, it loses it's purpose.
Title: Re: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: Maximus on September 26, 2011, 11:29:51 AM
Quote from: Tamas on September 26, 2011, 11:06:45 AM
Thats fine, except that it is used to determine your human-ness on the spot. It is not a questionaire, it is a security measure. If it does not have a method of instant verification, it loses it's purpose.
Combine with Colossus's point. It gives you a known and an unknown. If you answer the known correctly then you're deemed human and pass the test. You also give the system an idea of what the unknown might be. Eventually it can have enough confidence to give you the unknown by itself. So long as you are within some threshold of similarity you pass and continue to improve its knowledge. It's a form of semi-supervised learning.
Title: Re: 5 things crowds do better than science people
Post by: Slargos on September 26, 2011, 12:29:31 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 26, 2011, 10:33:10 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 26, 2011, 12:08:35 AM
These coincidences are just amazing!

http://www.cracked.com/article_18788_the-5-most-mind-blowing-coincidences-all-time.html?wa_user1=5&wa_user2=History&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=recommended (http://www.cracked.com/article_18788_the-5-most-mind-blowing-coincidences-all-time.html?wa_user1=5&wa_user2=History&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=recommended)

I like the article about Islam that says that Muslims have historically been very mild conquerors and soldiers and doesn't mention the name "Timur" once.
They are notorious islamophiles over there. It's relatively sickening, but I like the site enough that I can overlook the odd islamospooge.