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Title: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 23, 2011, 08:22:16 AM
Stay classy UK, stay classy. :golfclap:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-14998593

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Police to investigate boys' fighting event in Preston
21 September 2011 Last updated at 23:53


Police are to investigate whether two boys were put at risk by taking part in a fight in a cage in Lancashire.

The two eight-year-old boys were filmed fighting at a Labour club in Preston.

The video, shot at Greenlands Labour Club on 10 September, shows them wrestling with each other on the floor in front of an audience of adults.

Police said on Wednesday night that they would be looking into "whether there were issues surrounding the safety of children".

A Lancashire Police spokesman said: "There is no issue with the club's licence to stage such events.

"We were aware that the mixed martial arts night was taking place but we were not aware that children were taking part."

Club manager Michelle Anderson, 39, previously said that they had worked closely with police, adding that the boys "loved it" and were not in danger.

"The children were not doing cage fighting, they were just grappling, there was no punching, kicking or striking," she said.

"The event was perfectly legal. There was only one fight for kids, which was a demonstration fight, the other fights were for adults."

She added: "It's just people who know nothing about the sport who want to contribute."

The father of one of the boys, Nick Hartley, said his son had not been at risk.

He said: "He loves the sport. It's not one bit dangerous, it's a controlled sport.

"He likes to do it, he's never forced to do it, he wants to do it, so leave him to do it."

He added: "He'll never get hurt, it's a controlled sport he could never get hurt.

"Until he gets a bit older and he starts doing physical contact, kicking and punching, then maybe, but at his age it's wrestling, like a grappling."

A British Medical Association (BMA) spokesman said sports such as boxing and cage-fighting were "sometimes defended on the grounds that children learn to work through their aggression with discipline and control".

But it said many other sports such as athletics, swimming, judo and football "require discipline but do not pose the same threat of brain injury".
'Quite disturbing'

The promoter of the event, Marcus Holt, said: "There are no kicks, there are no punches, so there's no need for things like head guards and other wear like that.

"With the children, it's all amateur bouts, it's all demonstration grappling submissions."

Chris Cloke, head of child protection awareness at the NSPCC, said: "We would strongly discourage parents from letting their children take part in this kind of fighting.

"It's quite disturbing that some of those involved in the bouts were as young as eight, an age when they are still developing, physically and mentally.

"The organisers of these activities should think very carefully before allowing children to be involved when they are egged on to inflict violence."

Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Martinus on September 23, 2011, 08:25:44 AM
White trash.

I love it is done at a Labour club, too.  :lol:
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Neil on September 23, 2011, 08:32:13 AM
You know, I hate MMA and think it's practiced exclusively by faggots, but what's the big deal?  It was like a junior wrestling match, of the sort they might have in school, was it not?
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Ed Anger on September 23, 2011, 08:34:39 AM
Quote from: Neil on September 23, 2011, 08:32:13 AM
You know, I hate MMA and think it's practiced exclusively by faggots

:yes:
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: Neil on September 23, 2011, 08:32:13 AM
You know, I hate MMA and think it's practiced exclusively by faggots, but what's the big deal?  It was like a junior wrestling match, of the sort they might have in school, was it not?

So it seems.  I don't understand the hub-bub.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Brazen on September 23, 2011, 09:48:39 AM
Eight year olds should ALL be forced to cage fight.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Cecil on September 23, 2011, 09:51:46 AM
Quote from: Brazen on September 23, 2011, 09:48:39 AM
Eight year olds should ALL be forced to cage fight.

I´d pay to watch you cage fight. You seem to have a lot of penned up rage.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 09:54:36 AM
When I was eight, I pretty much did cage fight all the time, except without the cage, and without gloves, and with clothes on. And on the tarmac of the playground, rather than canvas.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: crazy canuck on September 23, 2011, 10:30:53 AM
Quote from: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 09:54:36 AM
When I was eight, I pretty much did cage fight all the time, except without the cage, and without gloves, and with clothes on. And on the tarmac of the playground, rather than canvas.

You had a tarmac!  In my day we fought on the rocky ground with sharp rocks lying about.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 10:35:21 AM
Quote from: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 09:54:36 AM
When I was eight, I pretty much did cage fight all the time, except without the cage, and without gloves, and with clothes on. And on the tarmac of the playground, rather than canvas.

I wasn't imagining the kids naked.  Were you imagining the kids naked?
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 11:08:46 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 10:35:21 AM
Quote from: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 09:54:36 AM
When I was eight, I pretty much did cage fight all the time, except without the cage, and without gloves, and with clothes on. And on the tarmac of the playground, rather than canvas.

I wasn't imagining the kids naked.  Were you imagining the kids naked?

They fought shirtless, no?
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: crazy canuck on September 23, 2011, 11:12:01 AM
Quote from: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 11:08:46 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 10:35:21 AM
Quote from: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 09:54:36 AM
When I was eight, I pretty much did cage fight all the time, except without the cage, and without gloves, and with clothes on. And on the tarmac of the playground, rather than canvas.

I wasn't imagining the kids naked.  Were you imagining the kids naked?

They fought shirtless, no?

Back in my day we considered a ripped shirt a fair price for victory on the school battlefield - which as I mentioned was not a nice smooth tarmac but the hard rocky ground.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: HVC on September 23, 2011, 11:36:40 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 10:35:21 AM
Quote from: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 09:54:36 AM
When I was eight, I pretty much did cage fight all the time, except without the cage, and without gloves, and with clothes on. And on the tarmac of the playground, rather than canvas.

I wasn't imagining the kids naked.  Were you imagining the kids naked?
without a properly tailored suit all children are naked in Warspite's eyes :contract: :P
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 11:43:14 AM
Quote from: HVC on September 23, 2011, 11:36:40 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 10:35:21 AM
Quote from: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 09:54:36 AM
When I was eight, I pretty much did cage fight all the time, except without the cage, and without gloves, and with clothes on. And on the tarmac of the playground, rather than canvas.

I wasn't imagining the kids naked.  Were you imagining the kids naked?
without a properly tailored suit all children are naked in Warspite's eyes :contract: :P

:yes:
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: derspiess on September 23, 2011, 11:59:27 AM
Kids these days :D

I get a kick out of watching my son and nephew do the Oklahoma drill in my brother's living room. 
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: HVC on September 23, 2011, 12:00:38 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 23, 2011, 11:59:27 AM
Kids these days :D

I get a kick out of watching my son and nephew do the Oklahoma drill in my brother's living room. 
:unsure:
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Razgovory on September 23, 2011, 12:22:39 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 23, 2011, 12:00:38 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 23, 2011, 11:59:27 AM
Kids these days :D

I get a kick out of watching my son and nephew do the Oklahoma drill in my brother's living room. 
:unsure:

My guess is that it includes sodomy.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Iormlund on September 23, 2011, 12:37:08 PM
I took part in several karate competitions as a kid. We had stricter rules than adults, true, but nobody raised an eyebrow when we entered the tatami. And that shit could be dangerous. During my first competition, for example, a kid got accidentally hit on the throat and the paramedics had to intervene to get him to breath again.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: crazy canuck on September 23, 2011, 01:10:13 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on September 23, 2011, 12:37:08 PM
I took part in several karate competitions as a kid. We had stricter rules than adults, true, but nobody raised an eyebrow when we entered the tatami. And that shit could be dangerous. During my first competition, for example, a kid got accidentally hit on the throat and the paramedics had to intervene to get him to breath again.

Tatami  :rolleyes:

Does no one fight on the rock hard ground with great razor sharp rocks protruding all round them.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Martinus on September 23, 2011, 01:15:09 PM
Quote from: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 09:54:36 AM
When I was eight, I pretty much did cage fight all the time, except without the cage, and without gloves, and with clothes on. And on the tarmac of the playground, rather than canvas.

There are many things that kids can do on their own, but that become quite creepy when parents egg them on to do and watch them doing it.

Like playing doctor, for example.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Iormlund on September 23, 2011, 01:19:37 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 23, 2011, 01:10:13 PM
Tatami  :rolleyes:

Does no one fight on the rock hard ground with great razor sharp rocks protruding all round them.

Not with adults watching. That's what recess was for.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: crazy canuck on September 23, 2011, 01:21:15 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on September 23, 2011, 01:19:37 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 23, 2011, 01:10:13 PM
Tatami  :rolleyes:

Does no one fight on the rock hard ground with great razor sharp rocks protruding all round them.

Not with adults watching. That's what recess was for.

Ok, for a moment there I thought you were getting soft.

@ Marti - Your internet persona is becoming a tired.  Give it a rest - a long rest.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Martinus on September 23, 2011, 01:22:22 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 23, 2011, 01:21:15 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on September 23, 2011, 01:19:37 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 23, 2011, 01:10:13 PM
Tatami  :rolleyes:

Does no one fight on the rock hard ground with great razor sharp rocks protruding all round them.

Not with adults watching. That's what recess was for.

Ok, for a moment there I thought you were getting soft.

@ Marti - Your internet persona is becoming a tired.  Give it a rest - a long rest.

Your internet persona has been stale for months. I hope you are not like that in real life. :)
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 01:24:53 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 23, 2011, 01:10:13 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on September 23, 2011, 12:37:08 PM
I took part in several karate competitions as a kid. We had stricter rules than adults, true, but nobody raised an eyebrow when we entered the tatami. And that shit could be dangerous. During my first competition, for example, a kid got accidentally hit on the throat and the paramedics had to intervene to get him to breath again.

Tatami  :rolleyes:

Does no one fight on the rock hard ground with great razor sharp rocks protruding all round them.

We couldn't afford razor sharp rocks. Oh, how we used to dream of those. No, we had to fight on precarious tarmac ledges poised over furious lava flows.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: crazy canuck on September 23, 2011, 01:31:03 PM
Quote from: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 01:24:53 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 23, 2011, 01:10:13 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on September 23, 2011, 12:37:08 PM
I took part in several karate competitions as a kid. We had stricter rules than adults, true, but nobody raised an eyebrow when we entered the tatami. And that shit could be dangerous. During my first competition, for example, a kid got accidentally hit on the throat and the paramedics had to intervene to get him to breath again.

Tatami  :rolleyes:

Does no one fight on the rock hard ground with great razor sharp rocks protruding all round them.

We couldn't afford razor sharp rocks. Oh, how we used to dream of those. No, we had to fight on precarious tarmac ledges poised over furious lava flows.

Bah, one does not buy razor sharp rocks, they are formed from dull blunt rocks from the collisions of combatants on the rocks over the ages.

That is if you live in a place that puts little value on fighting on tatami or tarmac.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 01:38:36 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 23, 2011, 01:31:03 PM
Quote from: Warspite on September 23, 2011, 01:24:53 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 23, 2011, 01:10:13 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on September 23, 2011, 12:37:08 PM
I took part in several karate competitions as a kid. We had stricter rules than adults, true, but nobody raised an eyebrow when we entered the tatami. And that shit could be dangerous. During my first competition, for example, a kid got accidentally hit on the throat and the paramedics had to intervene to get him to breath again.

Tatami  :rolleyes:

Does no one fight on the rock hard ground with great razor sharp rocks protruding all round them.

We couldn't afford razor sharp rocks. Oh, how we used to dream of those. No, we had to fight on precarious tarmac ledges poised over furious lava flows.

Bah, one does not buy razor sharp rocks, they are formed from dull blunt rocks from the collisions of combatants on the rocks over the ages.

That is if you live in a place that puts little value on fighting on tatami or tarmac.

No, but you can sell what razor sharp rocks you do have for coal in the winter.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: The Brain on September 23, 2011, 02:41:10 PM
Only in America.
Title: Re: 8 year olds cage fight in Britain
Post by: derspiess on September 23, 2011, 03:17:38 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 23, 2011, 12:22:39 PM
My guess is that it includes sodomy.

:rolleyes: You guys need to get out more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_Drill