I'm going to a wedding in less than a month in the US and as a best man I have been informed at pretty short notice (the invite had no dress code) that as a member of hte wedding party according to American tradition I should be coordinated with the groom and other best men.
Is this a legit tradition, or something the rental catalogues cooked up? (in the same way they butchered evening wear)
There is a cost implication as morning suit hire is not cheap plus I'd need to take it for two weeks. Also my build does not work with off the rack suits so there's a definite "looking like shit" risk too.
I'm arguing with the groom about this. He's British and initially promised a free-for-all style with the wedding. Now it seems the bride's family is getting involved.
Two words for ya. tuxedo t-shirt.
Quote from: Warspite on September 22, 2011, 01:47:42 PM
I'm going to a wedding in less than a month in the US and as a best man I have been informed at pretty short notice (the invite had no dress code) that as a member of hte wedding party according to American tradition I should be coordinated with the groom and other best men.
Is this a legit tradition, or something the rental catalogues cooked up? (in the same way they butchered evening wear)
There is a cost implication as morning suit hire is not cheap plus I'd need to take it for two weeks. Also my build does not work with off the rack suits so there's a definite "looking like shit" risk too.
I'm arguing with the groom about this. He's British and initially promised a free-for-all style with the wedding. Now it seems the bride's family is getting involved.
It may well be something cooked up by rental companies, but at this point, yes, it's a legit tradition.
Generally renting a tux is pretty reasonable though. It was one of the smallest expenses from my own wedding. Peanuts compared to you having to fly across the atlantic.
I got stung like this - I was a male maid of honour ( ;) ) at my best friend's wedding earlier this month, only to find, a month before, that all of the guys in the wedding were supposed to buy *bespoke* suits of identical pattern from a specific tailor at a cost I do not wish to disclose lest it expose me to further scorn and abuse ... I agreed to do this, only to be filled with (figurative) buckshot by my wife.
His (the husband's) family is super mega rich, so this was nothing to them.
The experience of going to the tailor's was hilarious in hindsight. We came to a sort of unspoken agreement: I agreed to pretend to believe his bull about how certain fabrics and cuts made me look good; he agreed to pretend to believe I was a "gentleman" who could credibly go to bespoke tailors. :lol:
The suit he eventually made was nice, though. We looked good. Too bad the wedding was outdoors in a heat wave.
Quote from: Malthus on September 22, 2011, 01:58:02 PM
I got stung like this - I was a male maid of honour ( ;) ) at my best friend's wedding earlier this month, only to find, a month before, that all of the guys in the wedding were supposed to buy *bespoke* suits of identical pattern from a specific tailor at a cost I do not wish to disclose lest it expose me to further scorn and abuse ... I agreed to do this, only to be filled with (figurative) buckshot by my wife.
His (the husband's) family is super mega rich, so this was nothing to them.
The experience of going to the tailor's was hilarious in hindsight. We came to a sort of unspoken agreement: I agreed to pretend to believe his bull about how certain fabrics and cuts made me look good; he agreed to pretend to believe I was a "gentleman" who could credibly go to bespoke tailors. :lol:
The suit he eventually made was nice, though. We looked good. Too bad the wedding was outdoors in a heat wave.
This the same friend force feeding her fiance butter in hidden form to fatten him up?
Quote from: Warspite on September 22, 2011, 01:47:42 PM
I'm arguing with the groom about this. He's British and initially promised a free-for-all style with the wedding. Now it seems the bride's family is getting involved.
You will be wearing whatever the bride's family makes the groom and you wear. Best to find out what that is sooner rather than later.
So colour and dress matching is legit? Ugh. I love you guys, but when it comes to dress sense... :yuk: uniforms that are not uniforms is hideously tacky.
The real failure here is the groom's, however. I told him to either go formal, in which case I could have had a morning suit made back with my last order of suits from the tailor, or go informal (ie lounge suits). But he set neither so the bride's mother has obviously seized the gap.
Quote from: Barrister on September 22, 2011, 01:53:09 PM
It may well be something cooked up by rental companies, but at this point, yes, it's a legit tradition.
Generally renting a tux is pretty reasonable though. It was one of the smallest expenses from my own wedding. Peanuts compared to you having to fly across the atlantic.
Not renting a tux, renting a morning suit:
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Over here at least, morning wear is considerably more expensive to rent than evening wear (the latter I have anyway).
Having already forked out for transatlantic flights and two week hotel stay, and the groom's very fucking expensive stag weekend that's coming up, I'm not in the mood to be wasting more cash on the bride's mother's self-indulgence.
Quote from: HVC on September 22, 2011, 02:01:05 PM
This the same friend force feeding her fiance butter in hidden form to fatten him up?
Yup.
Quote from: Malthus on September 22, 2011, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 22, 2011, 02:01:05 PM
This the same friend force feeding her fiance butter in hidden form to fatten him up?
Yup.
lucky man :lol:
Quote from: HVC on September 22, 2011, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 22, 2011, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 22, 2011, 02:01:05 PM
This the same friend force feeding her fiance butter in hidden form to fatten him up?
Yup.
lucky man :lol:
She only does that when she's pissed off at him.
However, that's almost all the time. ;)
For example: in the months before the wedding, he takes off with his buddies on vacation for three weeks (not that he
works, you understand), leaving her to single-handedly deal with all the organizational details.
Mind you, he did shell out lots of family money for fancy duds like Manolo Blahnik shoes, and she did look good in them, which covers a multitude of crimes. :D
Quote from: Malthus on September 22, 2011, 02:14:10 PM
She only does that when she's pissed off at him.
However, that's almost all the time. ;)
For example: in the months before the wedding, he takes off with his buddies on vacation for three weeks (not that he works, you understand), leaving her to single-handedly deal with all the organizational details.
Mind you, he did shell out lots of family money for fancy duds like Manolo Blahnik shoes, and she did look good in them, which covers a multitude of crimes. :D
Damn rich men!
prenup i presume? keep fatting him up so he gets a coronary before they next young thing catches his eye :lol:
It seems the leisured classes didn't die out, they migrated to Canada. Even over here, our ridiculously rich have make-busy tasks like investment banking, sitting on daddy's company's board, or master's degrees.
I keep trying to figure out which family your friend married into.
There's a fairly limited number of families with that kind of wealth...
Quote from: Barrister on September 22, 2011, 02:19:05 PM
I keep trying to figure out which family your friend married into.
There's a fairly limited number of families with that kind of wealth...
I'm guessing the samuel's
Looking good, Ark.
Quote from: HVC on September 22, 2011, 02:16:22 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 22, 2011, 02:14:10 PM
She only does that when she's pissed off at him.
However, that's almost all the time. ;)
For example: in the months before the wedding, he takes off with his buddies on vacation for three weeks (not that he works, you understand), leaving her to single-handedly deal with all the organizational details.
Mind you, he did shell out lots of family money for fancy duds like Manolo Blahnik shoes, and she did look good in them, which covers a multitude of crimes. :D
Damn rich men!
prenup i presume? keep fatting him up so he gets a coronary before they next young thing catches his eye :lol:
Actually, not. To his credit. He refused to go with their urgings to get her to sign.
Quote from: Malthus on September 22, 2011, 02:47:09 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 22, 2011, 02:16:22 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 22, 2011, 02:14:10 PM
She only does that when she's pissed off at him.
However, that's almost all the time. ;)
For example: in the months before the wedding, he takes off with his buddies on vacation for three weeks (not that he works, you understand), leaving her to single-handedly deal with all the organizational details.
Mind you, he did shell out lots of family money for fancy duds like Manolo Blahnik shoes, and she did look good in them, which covers a multitude of crimes. :D
Damn rich men!
prenup i presume? keep fatting him up so he gets a coronary before they next young thing catches his eye :lol:
Actually, not. To his credit. He refused to go with their urgings to get her to sign.
a fool and his families money are soon parted :P
Actually, is it his, or is it set in trust? and in the case of trust, can she still get it? ie when his yearly stipend (or whatever) is paid out she gets half?
Quote from: Barrister on September 22, 2011, 02:19:05 PM
I keep trying to figure out which family your friend married into.
There's a fairly limited number of families with that kind of wealth...
I'll PM you ...
Quote from: HVC on September 22, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
a fool and his families money are soon parted :P
Actually, is it his, or is it set in trust? and in the case of trust, can she still get it? ie when his yearly stipend (or whatever) is paid out she gets half?
I have no idea. Naturally, just the sort of question to keep family lawyers in gainful employment. :D
Quote from: Malthus on September 22, 2011, 02:51:19 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 22, 2011, 02:19:05 PM
I keep trying to figure out which family your friend married into.
There's a fairly limited number of families with that kind of wealth...
I'll PM you ...
I'm curious too....
I'd just like to say I hate wedding tuxes with a passion. Just a nice, regular suit (or maybe a morning suit) seems a lot more dignified and less pretentious.
Unless you're going for the sarcastic Dumb & Dumber look-- in which case, let 'er rip :thumbsup:
Rent Tuxedo. Morning suit, evening suit, wtf.
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 22, 2011, 03:58:44 PM
Rent Tuxedo. Morning suit, evening suit, wtf.
:lol:
Tux is for evening.
Does best man give the toast in Pomistan?
I had to wear morning suit one time. I think they look dorky.
It's also your duty to shag the shit out of one of the bridesmaids.
Quote from: Barrister on September 22, 2011, 01:53:09 PM
Generally renting a tux is pretty reasonable though. It was one of the smallest expenses from my own wedding. Peanuts compared to you having to fly across the atlantic.
When my brother got married, some of his friends who were in the wedding party were, well, not very well off financially, and it was more than a bit of a strain on them. I think that my brother helped them out on it a bit, and in one case, I think my mom paid for the guy's tux. But, yeah, compared to the overall cost of the wedding, it was peanuts. Of course, I think my brother and his wife spent more on their wedding than I've ever paid for a car--including the cars that I bought new.
Over here you don't wear Tux in church. You wear white tie and tails if formal, suit if not formal. At a pinch the suit can be swapped for Tux between church and dinner if its an early wedding with a dinner later.
Off course young hipsters growing up on US TV shows thinks you do, and so alot of weddings is in tux :yuk: There was a hillarious story of a groom who wanted the priest to tear down the narrow gate in the wall around his 10 century country church in order to allow an Elvis style cadillac all the way up to the church :D
traditions are being drowned out by faux tradtions imported through US TV series :yucky:
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"Other" best men? I urge the groom to look up "best". Like Highlander, there can be only one!
Here's where I learnt all I need to know about American wedding dress and traditions:
http://wedinator.icanhascheezburger.com/
Sounds ghastly.
You should go to a nice entertaining funeral in, say, Ireland instead.
Quote from: Malthus on September 22, 2011, 01:58:02 PM
I got stung like this - I was a male maid of honour ( ;) ) at my best friend's wedding earlier this month, only to find, a month before, that all of the guys in the wedding were supposed to buy *bespoke* suits of identical pattern from a specific tailor at a cost I do not wish to disclose lest it expose me to further scorn and abuse ...
Too late, McDuck. I assume it cost as much as a normal person's car and you were probably like LOL THAT'S WHAT THINGS COST NOWADAYS I GUESS.
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 03:52:16 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 22, 2011, 01:58:02 PM
I got stung like this - I was a male maid of honour ( ;) ) at my best friend's wedding earlier this month, only to find, a month before, that all of the guys in the wedding were supposed to buy *bespoke* suits of identical pattern from a specific tailor at a cost I do not wish to disclose lest it expose me to further scorn and abuse ...
Too late, McDuck. I assume it cost as much as a normal person's car and you were probably like LOL THAT'S WHAT THINGS COST NOWADAYS I GUESS.
Heh now you sound like my wife. :lol:
Quote from: Malthus on September 23, 2011, 07:56:21 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 23, 2011, 03:52:16 AM
Quote from: Malthus on September 22, 2011, 01:58:02 PM
I got stung like this - I was a male maid of honour ( ;) ) at my best friend's wedding earlier this month, only to find, a month before, that all of the guys in the wedding were supposed to buy *bespoke* suits of identical pattern from a specific tailor at a cost I do not wish to disclose lest it expose me to further scorn and abuse ...
Too late, McDuck. I assume it cost as much as a normal person's car and you were probably like LOL THAT'S WHAT THINGS COST NOWADAYS I GUESS.
Heh now you sound like my wife. :lol:
You should have bought her jewelry. they never seem to mind how much that costs :lol: