http://news.yahoo.com/101-old-detroit-woman-evicted-foreclosure-191726499.html
QuoteA 101-year-old woman was evicted from the southwest Detroit home where she lived for nearly six decades after her 65-year-old son failed to pay the mortgage.
Texana Hollis was evicted Monday and her belongings were placed outside the home. Her son, Warren Hollis, said he didn't pay the bill for several years and disregarded eviction notices.
"I kept it from her because I didn't want to worry her," Warren Hollis told WXYZ-TV for a report that aired Monday night. "I was just so sure it wasn't going to happen."
Wayne County Chief Deputy Treasurer David Szymanski told The Associated Press on Tuesday that the Hollises took out an adjustable-rate mortgage in 2002. A default and foreclosure notice was filed in November.
"They ended up owing $80,000 on the home," Szymanski said. "Warren indicates he did not make the payments. He got the notices, but threw them away."
County records show that property taxes were paid on the home through summer 2010. A winter tax bill of $55.95, including interest and fees, was unpaid, and a $778.44 summer tax bill was due this month.
A neighbor was letting Texana and Warren Hollis live in a rental house across the street from the home they shared, and Texana Hollis' belongings were being moved there. Others, including a nonprofit organization, were working to get her back into her home.
On Monday night, she was taken to a hospital for evaluation after she became disoriented.
Szymanski said county officials were asking questions and looking into what they can do to help. He said the county has worked with 10,000 taxpayers to keep them from going into foreclosure.
"The teachable moment here is for people not to stick their head in the sand," he said.
:hmm:
Obama! :w00t:
The most important rights are property rights, persons who accumulate debts and then do not pay them back have no moral right to the property they purchased using their creditor's money.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on September 13, 2011, 07:00:58 PM
The most important rights are property rights, persons who accumulate debts and then do not pay them back have no moral right to the property they purchased using their creditor's money.
I feel like she probably wasn't capable of handling her own finances and then was done poorly by her son.
The argument here, I think, is that this old lady was either too stupid or demented to know what she was signing. To be fair, I would imagine most 101-year old females probably spent their careers as homemakers and don't know much about personal finance.
Quote from: garbon on September 13, 2011, 07:03:17 PM
I feel like she probably wasn't capable of handling her own finances
:hug:
Here's what happened: lady gets old, has nothing but the house. Son bets that mama dies before the note gets unbearable. His bet does not pan out. He lets mama get foreclosed on.
WTG, asshole kid.
And yeah, I see this shit regularly. Lots of old black people who get talked into stupid financial shit by their better educated but ultimately dumber kids out on their asses. It's sad.
It dont get how she's lived there for 60 years yet still has a mortgage.
Quote from: Zoupa on September 13, 2011, 10:38:21 PM
It dont get how she's lived there for 60 years yet still has a mortgage.
I can't speak for this case but up until the financial meltdown a lot of people used their houses as ATMs; constantly refinancing and pulling equity out as cash. I can't think of any other reason a 101 year old would still be making a house payment.
The article says the mortgage is from 1992. I guess the house was fully paid before.
Let her die! Let her die! Yeah! USA! USA! USA!
Quote from: Martinus on September 14, 2011, 01:47:48 AM
Let her die! Let her die! Yeah! USA! USA! USA!
Oh, and irrational dislike/envy of the USA is also a very east euro bluecollar shittery you happily subscribe to. You can't deny your roots.
I concur. Martty is exhibiting the noveu rich attitude common to 3rd worlders gazing in awed jealousy the splendor of the United States.
Actually, Marty is quoting something specific there.
Quote from: Scipio on September 13, 2011, 07:19:16 PM
Here's what happened: lady gets old, has nothing but the house. Son bets that mama dies before the note gets unbearable. His bet does not pan out. He lets mama get foreclosed on.
WTG, asshole kid.
Good theory, probally so.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 14, 2011, 05:53:54 AM
Actually, Marty is quoting something specific there.
The whole thing from the 'Tea Party' debate, right? :bleeding:
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 14, 2011, 05:20:30 AM
I concur. Martty is exhibiting the noveu rich attitude common to 3rd worlders gazing in awed jealousy the splendor of the United States.
No scribes allowed! :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on September 14, 2011, 06:05:33 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 14, 2011, 05:53:54 AM
Actually, Marty is quoting something specific there.
The whole thing from the 'Tea Party' debate, right? :bleeding:
I think so :bleeding:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 14, 2011, 05:53:54 AM
Actually, Marty is quoting something specific there.
That doesn't really negate what Tamas and Wags said, though.
Quote from: Caliga on September 13, 2011, 07:04:02 PMThe argument here, I think, is that this old lady was either too stupid or demented to know what she was signing. To be fair, I would imagine most 101-year old females probably spent their careers as homemakers and don't know much about personal finance.
You do know that, according to most sociological enquiries, it was women who managed family finances?
Quote from: Oexmelin on September 14, 2011, 09:47:45 AM
You do know that, according to most sociological enquiries, it was women who managed family finances?
Heck they managed the famiy businesses right up until companies became more professionalized in the 19th century.
The tradition was so strong that long after middle class ladies were sent to the home they still would keep meticulous records of household expenses. Not sure when that went away but man did my grandmother ever do that.
Quote from: Caliga on September 14, 2011, 06:05:33 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 14, 2011, 05:53:54 AM
Actually, Marty is quoting something specific there.
The whole thing from the 'Tea Party' debate, right? :bleeding:
Did your wife agree? I liked how Ron Paul was suggesting we go back to the days before doctors were licensed.
Quote from: Valmy on September 14, 2011, 09:56:14 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on September 14, 2011, 09:47:45 AM
You do know that, according to most sociological enquiries, it was women who managed family finances?
Heck they managed the famiy businesses right up until companies became more professionalized in the 19th century.
The tradition was so strong that long after middle class ladies were sent to the home they still would keep meticulous records of household expenses. Not sure when that went away but man did my grandmother ever do that.
I had an elderly neighbor who did that. If she spent 10 cents to buy a paper out of a vending machine, she recorded it. OTOH, she was about the same age as my grandparents (or actually, probably a few years younger), but my grandfather took care of all the money and paperwork associated with it. Of course, he had a good bit more education than my grandmother, while the neighbor in question was a college graduate.
So this woman doesn't live in Detroit anymore? Horrible.
Quote from: Caliga on September 14, 2011, 06:05:33 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 14, 2011, 05:53:54 AM
Actually, Marty is quoting something specific there.
The whole thing from the 'Tea Party' debate, right? :bleeding:
Yup
Quote from: The Brain on September 14, 2011, 12:10:19 PM
So this woman doesn't live in Detroit anymore? Horrible.
False. :contract:
http://news.yahoo.com/evicted-woman-101-gets-detroit-house-back-231901988.html
QuoteAn 101-year-old woman who was evicted from her home of nearly six decades after her son failed to pay a mortgage got her house back on Wednesday.
Texana Hollis remains in hospital however, after suffering from severe anxiety after her belongings were thrown in a dumpster and locks were placed on her doors Monday, WXYZ news reported.
"I didn't know a thing about it," a sobbing Hollis told the station before she was overcome with grief and anxiety.
Her son Warren Hollis -- who shared his mother's Detroit house -- initially told the station that the house was seized because he didn't pay property taxes for more than seven years.
"I kept it from her because I didn't want to worry her, I was just so sure it wasn't going to happen," he told the station.
"I feel bad. Maybe I should have paid closer attention."
It turns out he'd taken out a second mortgage on the home for $32,000 that he claims was spent primarily on house repairs, a car and donations to his church.
Chief district judge Marilyn Atkins said the court officer who processed the case after the house was foreclosed had been "been working with the son for a week before the eviction was done."
Council woman JoAnn Watson approached the head of the local office of the US Department of Housing and Urban Development for help.
"He said we're going to do something and I said praise the Lord," Watson told the station.
A court office cut the locks and there are also plans to rehabilitate the house and get daily nursing care for Hollis so she can return home.
Thus is Marty's hatemongering answered.
Yay. I guess? Someone takes out loans they aren't gonna pay back and probably had no plans to, and they are taken care of.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 14, 2011, 08:45:18 PM
Thus is Marty's hatemongering answered.
Yay. I guess? Someone takes out loans they aren't gonna pay back and probably had no plans to, and they are taken care of.
I don't think the son lives in the home...
He claims eh spent the money on, among other things, "donations to his church". What a fucking crock of shit.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 14, 2011, 08:45:18 PM
Yay. I guess? Someone takes out loans they aren't gonna pay back and probably had no plans to, and they are taken care of.
In general, that sort of thing is bad, but in this case, the way I see it, the woman and the lender were both victimized by the son, so I don't have a real problem with something being done to help her get back into her home.
Now, hopefully, something will be done to get the son into a prison cell.
Quote from: garbon on September 14, 2011, 07:45:31 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 14, 2011, 12:10:19 PM
So this woman doesn't live in Detroit anymore? Horrible.
False. :contract:
http://news.yahoo.com/evicted-woman-101-gets-detroit-house-back-231901988.html
QuoteAn 101-year-old woman who was evicted from her home of nearly six decades after her son failed to pay a mortgage got her house back on Wednesday.
Texana Hollis remains in hospital however, after suffering from severe anxiety after her belongings were thrown in a dumpster and locks were placed on her doors Monday, WXYZ news reported.
"I didn't know a thing about it," a sobbing Hollis told the station before she was overcome with grief and anxiety.
Her son Warren Hollis -- who shared his mother's Detroit house -- initially told the station that the house was seized because he didn't pay property taxes for more than seven years.
"I kept it from her because I didn't want to worry her, I was just so sure it wasn't going to happen," he told the station.
"I feel bad. Maybe I should have paid closer attention."
It turns out he'd taken out a second mortgage on the home for $32,000 that he claims was spent primarily on house repairs, a car and donations to his church.
Chief district judge Marilyn Atkins said the court officer who processed the case after the house was foreclosed had been "been working with the son for a week before the eviction was done."
Council woman JoAnn Watson approached the head of the local office of the US Department of Housing and Urban Development for help.
"He said we're going to do something and I said praise the Lord," Watson told the station.
A court office cut the locks and there are also plans to rehabilitate the house and get daily nursing care for Hollis so she can return home.
:yuk: