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Title: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: jimmy olsen on August 24, 2011, 06:05:46 AM
Charming. <_<

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/bachmann-staffer-arrested-for-terrorism-in-uganda-in-2006/243711/

Also, apparently linked to Uganda's kill the gays bill. :bleeding:
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/bachmann-campaigns-link-to-ugandas-kill-the-gays-bill/politics/2011/08/18/25542
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: 11B4V on August 24, 2011, 06:27:51 AM
I want to see how she's going to explain this. :lmfao:
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 24, 2011, 06:46:32 AM
Does the Ugandan government have a reputation for being on the level?
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: 11B4V on August 24, 2011, 07:13:34 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 24, 2011, 06:46:32 AM
Does the Ugandan government have a reputation for being on the level?

A long history of being on the level.
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Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: grumbler on August 24, 2011, 07:37:30 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 24, 2011, 06:27:51 AM
I want to see how she's going to explain this. :lmfao:
The charges were dropped.  I don't see that she has anything to explain.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Ed Anger on August 24, 2011, 08:26:45 AM
http://tosh.comedycentral.com/video-clips/eat-da-poo-poo
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: The Minsky Moment on August 24, 2011, 08:41:28 AM
Quote from: grumbler on August 24, 2011, 07:37:30 AM
The charges were dropped. 

The charges were dropped, according to the man himself, due to political pressure from the Bush admin, which does leave open the question of whether the charges had valid basis.
But another question is whether she should have to answer for all the actions ever taken by anyone who happens to work for her.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: grumbler on August 24, 2011, 09:11:48 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 24, 2011, 08:41:28 AM
The charges were dropped, according to the man himself, due to political pressure from the Bush admin, which does leave open the question of whether the charges had valid basis.
True, though it appears that there were serious questions about what the charges actually were, and how and why they were dropped.  I'd call it a pretty clear case of shenanigans on the part of both Waldron and the Ugandan government.

QuoteBut another question is whether she should have to answer for all the actions ever taken by anyone who happens to work for her.
Probably true, though she should have to answer charges about why she would hire someone who had actually been convicted of spying, terrorism, gun-running, or whatever it was that he was actually arrested for.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 09:41:11 AM
Quote from: grumbler on August 24, 2011, 07:37:30 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 24, 2011, 06:27:51 AM
I want to see how she's going to explain this. :lmfao:
The charges were dropped.  I don't see that she has anything to explain.

His role in advancing the "kill the gays" bill is nothing you find worthy of explaining?  :huh:
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: DGuller on August 24, 2011, 09:46:55 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 09:41:11 AM
Quote from: grumbler on August 24, 2011, 07:37:30 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 24, 2011, 06:27:51 AM
I want to see how she's going to explain this. :lmfao:
The charges were dropped.  I don't see that she has anything to explain.

His role in advancing the "kill the gays" bill is nothing you find worthy of explaining?  :huh:
Why should it be?  Lots of Americans advanced that bill.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Valmy on August 24, 2011, 09:47:57 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 24, 2011, 09:46:55 AM
Why should it be?  Lots of Americans advanced that bill.

:bleeding:

Don't be that guy.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 24, 2011, 09:54:14 AM
It's not like the Bachman campaign has been pretending to be gay-friendly.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Valmy on August 24, 2011, 09:55:12 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 24, 2011, 09:54:14 AM
It's not like the Bachman campaign has been pretending to be gay-friendly.

True which makes her more vulnerable to accusations she was backing the 'kill gays' bill than she is a backer of terrorism.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: grumbler on August 24, 2011, 10:21:56 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 09:41:11 AM
His role in advancing the "kill the gays" bill is nothing you find worthy of explaining?  :huh:
I haven't seen anything that says he actually advanced any bills in Uganda. Got a link?
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Valmy on August 24, 2011, 10:28:52 AM
Quote from: grumbler on August 24, 2011, 10:21:56 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 24, 2011, 09:41:11 AM
His role in advancing the "kill the gays" bill is nothing you find worthy of explaining?  :huh:
I haven't seen anything that says he actually advanced any bills in Uganda. Got a link?

Maybe the one that says 'Bachman Campaign's Link to Uganda's kill the gays bill' we are discussing in this thread?
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: grumbler on August 24, 2011, 10:31:37 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 24, 2011, 09:54:14 AM
It's not like the Bachman campaign has been pretending to be gay-friendly.
Agreed, and she has staffers as clearly batty as she is herself (Waldron being just an example, as far as I can see - her press secretary apparently has tried to coerce reporters to erase video clips that show Bachmann doing foolish things)
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: grumbler on August 24, 2011, 10:33:38 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2011, 10:28:52 AM
Maybe the one that says 'Bachman Campaign's Link to Uganda's kill the gays bill' we are discussing in this thread?
Did you read that article?  It says nothing about any actual links to "Uganda's Kill The Gays Bill" other than that someone knew someone who may have been involved in that campaign (though it doesn't actually say anyone was so linked).

Story titles are not facts, and links to them are not indicative of anything but lazy linking.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Valmy on August 24, 2011, 10:41:08 AM
Quote from: grumbler on August 24, 2011, 10:33:38 AM
Did you read that article?  It says nothing about any actual links to "Uganda's Kill The Gays Bill" other than that someone knew someone who may have been involved in that campaign (though it doesn't actually say anyone was so linked).

Story titles are not facts.

Of course I read the article.  One of her key campaign staffers was somehow linked to the primary sponsor of the kill gays bill.  Not very convincing but she is already vulnerable to that sort of accusation politically.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Gups on August 24, 2011, 11:09:39 AM
Doesnn't sound like the kind of thing that will get any traction beyond those who hate her anyway.

Her stated policies like $2 gallon gas should be enough to persaude anyone halfway sane that she would be a disaster in high office of any kind.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Valmy on August 24, 2011, 11:11:03 AM
Quote from: Gups on August 24, 2011, 11:09:39 AM
Doesnn't sound like the kind of thing that will get any traction beyond those who hate her anyway.

Good point.  She is only really being talked about for the nom since her home state is Iowa anyway.  Totally artificial.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Razgovory on August 24, 2011, 11:25:27 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 24, 2011, 06:27:51 AM
I want to see how she's going to explain this. :lmfao:

I doubt there is much to explain.  He was a arrested by the secret police of a corrupt regime.  Clearly, he's some kind of nut, but I doubt that will hurt Bachmann amongst the black helicopter crowd which makes up her base.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 24, 2011, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2011, 11:11:03 AM
Good point.  She is only really being talked about for the nom since her home state is Iowa anyway.  Totally artificial.

So far I've talked to three people (all self-identified Tea Partiers) who are gung ho for Bachman.  I don't think she's fake.

I'm curious if anyone else here knows any Tea Partiers personally.  Caligula?  Arugala?
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Ed Anger on August 24, 2011, 11:38:21 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 24, 2011, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2011, 11:11:03 AM
Good point.  She is only really being talked about for the nom since her home state is Iowa anyway.  Totally artificial.

So far I've talked to three people (all self-identified Tea Partiers) who are gung ho for Bachman.  I don't think she's fake.

I'm curious if anyone else here knows any Tea Partiers personally.  Caligula?  Arugala?

I do. Split between crazy eyes and RON PAUL.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Razgovory on August 24, 2011, 11:38:37 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 24, 2011, 11:35:39 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2011, 11:11:03 AM
Good point.  She is only really being talked about for the nom since her home state is Iowa anyway.  Totally artificial.

So far I've talked to three people (all self-identified Tea Partiers) who are gung ho for Bachman.  I don't think she's fake.

I'm curious if anyone else here knows any Tea Partiers personally.  Caligula?  Arugala?

I don't consort with crazy people.
Title: Re: Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006
Post by: Gups on August 24, 2011, 11:42:11 AM
My feeling, just from reading stuff about the GOP primaries, is that Bachman has a solid chance of representing the tea party wing of the Repub party. I reckon she'll fight it out with Perry for a play off against the Mormon. So Iowa is pretty important as always, although S.Carolina arguably more so.