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Poll
Question: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Option 1: The US debt ceiling debacle and the ensuing financial chaos votes: 10
Option 2: The Japanese tsunami votes: 7
Option 3: The News of the World scandal votes: 0
Option 4: The London riots votes: 0
Option 5: The Norwegian massacre votes: 2
Option 6: The Arab Winter votes: 6
Option 7: The death of Amy Winehouse (The Jaron option) votes: 0
Option 8: The Somalian famine ( :yeahright: ) votes: 0
Option 9: Other (write-in) votes: 3
Option 10: The year is still young, a lot of bad things can happen votes: 9
Title: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Martinus on August 09, 2011, 06:54:12 AM
So, the year still has full four months to go, but already the number of quite groundbreaking (in some cases, like the tsunami, literally) events seems quite staggering.

Some of the events are also not over yet, so consider the possibility of the state of affairs deteriorating (for those involved - the NotW scandal deteriorating to include the Murdoch family or the tories is not necessary a bad thing, mind you. ;)). 
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 09, 2011, 07:02:58 AM
The Arab uprisings. Mongers getting married is a close second.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2011, 07:06:08 AM
How the Tea Baggers not only destroy America, but manage to crater most of the world with them.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Martinus on August 09, 2011, 07:09:18 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2011, 07:06:08 AM
How the Tea Baggers not only destroy America, but manage to crater most of the world with them.

Btw, can we carpet-bomb US cities now? I mean, when Germans elected people who brought a global disaster in 1930s, we carpet-bombed the living shit out of them, even if it meant bombing people who didn't necessarily vote for the nutcases. I think the same reasoning should apply here.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Slargos on August 09, 2011, 07:16:00 AM
London riots is more of the same. World news scandal is big, but it's still just another newspaper scandal.

The imploding American economy and the Norwegian terrorist attack is certainly up there for the pure psychological impact.

Hard to name just one.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Zanza on August 09, 2011, 07:17:10 AM
Other: The sovereign debt crisis in Europe. I expect much worse to come in the second half of the year.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: The Brain on August 09, 2011, 07:24:33 AM
Quote from: Zanza on August 09, 2011, 07:17:10 AM
Other: The sovereign debt crisis in Europe. I expect much worse to come in the second half of the year.

Yeah, why is this huge thing hidden under "other"?
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2011, 07:25:09 AM
QuoteThe Somalian famine

:lol:
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Martinus on August 09, 2011, 07:26:07 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 09, 2011, 07:24:33 AM
Quote from: Zanza on August 09, 2011, 07:17:10 AM
Other: The sovereign debt crisis in Europe. I expect much worse to come in the second half of the year.

Yeah, why is this huge thing hidden under "other"?

My bad. I sorta conflated it with the American debt ceiling thing, but yeah, the crisis has this leg as well.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Martinus on August 09, 2011, 07:27:01 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2011, 07:25:09 AM
QuoteThe Somalian famine

:lol:

No kidding. The Somalis really have bad luck this summer. Apparently, 2000 people die there each day, but noone gives a flying fuck because there is so much happening elsewhere.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Josquius on August 09, 2011, 07:31:32 AM
Tsunami.
The Arab uprisings are already being forgotten whilst Fukushima still keeps popping up on the international news.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 07:42:24 AM
Japanese thing.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: DGuller on August 09, 2011, 07:43:10 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 09, 2011, 07:09:18 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2011, 07:06:08 AM
How the Tea Baggers not only destroy America, but manage to crater most of the world with them.

Btw, can we carpet-bomb US cities now? I mean, when Germans elected people who brought a global disaster in 1930s, we carpet-bombed the living shit out of them, even if it meant bombing people who didn't necessarily vote for the nutcases. I think the same reasoning should apply here.
Is this a serious question?  :blink:
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 07:44:17 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 09, 2011, 07:27:01 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2011, 07:25:09 AM
QuoteThe Somalian famine

:lol:

No kidding. The Somalis really have bad luck this summer. Apparently, 2000 people die there each day, but noone gives a flying fuck because there is so much happening elsewhere.

Nobody would give a fuck even if nothing else was happening.  The Somalis have either been starving or on the verge of starving for twenty years.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Slargos on August 09, 2011, 07:44:40 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 09, 2011, 07:43:10 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 09, 2011, 07:09:18 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2011, 07:06:08 AM
How the Tea Baggers not only destroy America, but manage to crater most of the world with them.

Btw, can we carpet-bomb US cities now? I mean, when Germans elected people who brought a global disaster in 1930s, we carpet-bombed the living shit out of them, even if it meant bombing people who didn't necessarily vote for the nutcases. I think the same reasoning should apply here.
Is this a serious question?  :blink:

If it isn't, it should be.  :mad:
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Ed Anger on August 09, 2011, 07:46:37 AM
 :lol: :nelson: (https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.smnnews.com%2FWP%2Fwp-content%2F1christ-middle-finger-300x298.jpg&hash=66bfabc183c0fe0af6ae6cd85af3255f4f2ffd6e)

soak in it as Bachmann dips her nuts on your collective faces.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 09, 2011, 07:48:54 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 09, 2011, 07:43:10 AM
Is this a serious question?  :blink:

Is Martinus a serious poster?
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 07:52:03 AM
Quote from: Slargos on August 09, 2011, 07:44:40 AM

If it isn't, it should be.  :mad:

Come and try it.  I doubt you Euros even have planes capable of carpet bombing anymore.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Martinus on August 09, 2011, 07:58:04 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 07:52:03 AM
Quote from: Slargos on August 09, 2011, 07:44:40 AM

If it isn't, it should be.  :mad:

Come and try it.  I doubt you Euros even have planes capable of carpet bombing anymore.

Well, seeing how your military equipment will soon be repositioned by the Chinese creditors, it may be a walk in the park. :P
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Tamas on August 09, 2011, 07:59:41 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 09, 2011, 07:09:18 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2011, 07:06:08 AM
How the Tea Baggers not only destroy America, but manage to crater most of the world with them.

Btw, can we carpet-bomb US cities now? I mean, when Germans elected people who brought a global disaster in 1930s, we carpet-bombed the living shit out of them, even if it meant bombing people who didn't necessarily vote for the nutcases. I think the same reasoning should apply here.

valid question but YOU, as in your people, did not bomb them. You were overrun like a slow cat on the country road, and then helped round up the minorities.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Slargos on August 09, 2011, 08:00:21 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 09, 2011, 07:58:04 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 07:52:03 AM
Quote from: Slargos on August 09, 2011, 07:44:40 AM

If it isn't, it should be.  :mad:

Come and try it.  I doubt you Euros even have planes capable of carpet bombing anymore.

Well, seeing how your military equipment will soon be repositioned by the Chinese creditors, it may be a walk in the park. :P

Bombing them with their own weapons would be a delightful exercise. I just got hard thinking about it.  :D
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Neil on August 09, 2011, 08:03:23 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 09, 2011, 07:58:04 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 07:52:03 AM
Quote from: Slargos on August 09, 2011, 07:44:40 AM
If it isn't, it should be.  :mad:
Come and try it.  I doubt you Euros even have planes capable of carpet bombing anymore.
Well, seeing how your military equipment will soon be repositioned by the Chinese creditors, it may be a walk in the park. :P
You know full well it doesn't work like that, and that there's no combination of states in all the world that could threaten the US militarily.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 08:04:49 AM
Quote from: Slargos on August 09, 2011, 08:00:21 AM


Bombing them with their own weapons would be a delightful exercise. I just got hard thinking about it.  :D

If you guys are going to start sucking Chinese cock, you better get started.  There is a whole bunch of them, and it'll take you while.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Valmy on August 09, 2011, 08:07:37 AM
So far the Arab thing.  The Syrians are still shooting people last I checked.  Civil war still in Libya.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 08:10:25 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 09, 2011, 07:58:04 AM


Well, seeing how your military equipment will soon be repositioned by the Chinese creditors, it may be a walk in the park. :P


I guess nobody will be able to protect you from Russia then.  To bad.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Neil on August 09, 2011, 08:12:31 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 09, 2011, 08:07:37 AM
So far the Arab thing.  The Syrians are still shooting people last I checked.  Civil war still in Libya.
I don't think history will really remember it.  I mean, what's so important about old dictators being replaced by new dictators?
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Valmy on August 09, 2011, 08:14:15 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 09, 2011, 08:12:31 AM
I don't think history will really remember it.  I mean, what's so important about old dictators being replaced by new dictators?

Better than they are going to remember the manufactured debt ceiling circus or one Norwegian gone wild.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 09, 2011, 08:19:32 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 09, 2011, 08:12:31 AM
I don't think history will really remember it.  I mean, what's so important about old dictators being replaced by new dictators?

The shah getting replaced by the ayatollah was fairly significant.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: The Brain on August 09, 2011, 08:21:09 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 09, 2011, 08:19:32 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 09, 2011, 08:12:31 AM
I don't think history will really remember it.  I mean, what's so important about old dictators being replaced by new dictators?

The shah getting replaced by the ayatollah was fairly significant.

Yeah, why is this huge thing hidden under "other"?
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Neil on August 09, 2011, 08:25:11 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 09, 2011, 08:19:32 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 09, 2011, 08:12:31 AM
I don't think history will really remember it.  I mean, what's so important about old dictators being replaced by new dictators?
The shah getting replaced by the ayatollah was fairly significant.
Yeah, because Iran went from being a friend to an enemy.  These countries remain as they always were:  Enemies cowed by US might.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: The Brain on August 09, 2011, 08:27:54 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 09, 2011, 08:25:11 AM
cowed

:mmm:
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 09:12:49 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 09, 2011, 08:14:15 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 09, 2011, 08:12:31 AM
I don't think history will really remember it.  I mean, what's so important about old dictators being replaced by new dictators?

Better than they are going to remember the manufactured debt ceiling circus or one Norwegian gone wild.

I think the Japanese thing will be remembered.  Nuclear accidents are fairly rare and it's likely to have long lasting effects on nuclear policy in numerous countries.  Germany is phasing out all of their nuclear plants.  God, I hope we don't do something that stupid.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Valmy on August 09, 2011, 10:12:47 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 09:12:49 AM
I think the Japanese thing will be remembered.  Nuclear accidents are fairly rare and it's likely to have long lasting effects on nuclear policy in numerous countries.  Germany is phasing out all of their nuclear plants.  God, I hope we don't do something that stupid.

I think the Germans were planning to do that anyway...but you might be right on the Japanese nucular incident.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: KRonn on August 09, 2011, 10:19:36 AM
I picked the Arab revolts. Not that it will necessarily turn out the best for those nations, or the rest of the world, as some may wind up with hard line Islamic regimes similar to Iran. But for the changes, good or bad, which will be quite significant no matter how it all goes down.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Syt on August 09, 2011, 10:33:02 AM
The Best Is Yet To Come (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmf1AYgYj6I)
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: derspiess on August 09, 2011, 12:25:54 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 09:12:49 AM
I think the Japanese thing will be remembered. 

That's how I voted

QuoteNuclear accidents are fairly rare and it's likely to have long lasting effects on nuclear policy in numerous countries.  Germany is phasing out all of their nuclear plants.  God, I hope we don't do something that stupid.

Our current energy czar (forget his name) did not seem to succomb to that panic, thankfully.  The one quote I remember from him was a reassurance that nuclear energy is safe, though he did use it as an opportunity to take a swipe at coal energy.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 12:30:28 PM
I have no problem with either coal or nuclear power.  They both have drawbacks, but what doesn't?  If we find something better, then by all means, phase them out.  It seems unlikely that something will better will come along in the near future though.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Valmy on August 09, 2011, 01:15:15 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 12:30:28 PM
I have no problem with either coal or nuclear power.  They both have drawbacks, but what doesn't?  If we find something better, then by all means, phase them out.  It seems unlikely that something will better will come along in the near future though.

I guess it depends on your definition of "better"

Obviously if we had unlimited money we could power the country without using any Coal or Nuclear.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Sheilbh on August 09, 2011, 01:28:06 PM
The Arab uprising.  I feel it's one of those events when history just turns a little and everything's different.  Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive.

Having said that this has been an extraordinary year and I don't think it's done yet - I remember reading that after the Arab revolts the BBC had spent a lot of their news budget and they suddenly had to send loads of teams to Japan and so on.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Grallon on August 09, 2011, 01:54:53 PM
2011 - 10 years after 9/11 - will be remembered as the year of the Great Decline - that is when the Hegemon has begun its slow fall.




G.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: derspiess on August 09, 2011, 01:58:37 PM
Quote from: Grallon on August 09, 2011, 01:54:53 PM
2011 - 10 years after 9/11 - will be remembered as the year of the Great Decline - that is when the Hegemon has begun its slow fall.




G.

Yes-- the Hegemon that never quite was :contract:
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: The Brain on August 09, 2011, 02:01:18 PM
Quote from: Grallon on August 09, 2011, 01:54:53 PM
2011 - 10 years after 9/11 - will be remembered as the year of the Great Decline - that is when the Hegemon has begun its slow fall.




G.

OK, mon.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: DGuller on August 09, 2011, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: Grallon on August 09, 2011, 01:54:53 PM
2011 - 10 years after 9/11 - will be remembered as the year of the Great Decline - that is when the Hegemon has begun its slow fall.




G.
I think Greece began its decline sometime before 2011.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 09, 2011, 02:23:01 PM
Quote from: Grallon on August 09, 2011, 01:54:53 PM
2011 - 10 years after 9/11 - will be remembered as the year of the Great Decline - that is when the Hegemon has begun its slow fall.




G.

If you're referring to America, that date is a bit late.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Valmy on August 09, 2011, 02:35:15 PM
Quote from: Grallon on August 09, 2011, 01:54:53 PM
2011 - 10 years after 9/11 - will be remembered as the year of the Great Decline - that is when the Hegemon has begun its slow fall.

Heh.  Starting to balance our budget is the beginning of our fall?  Sounds good I hope we decline every year.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Grallon on August 09, 2011, 08:34:09 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 09, 2011, 02:35:15 PM


Heh.  Starting to balance our budget is the beginning of our fall?  Sounds good I hope we decline every year.


Talk to me again when you guys have started *raising taxes* - because that's the only way you'll be able to begin 'balancing your budget'.  So far all I see/hear about is more Voodoo Economics incantations.  Besides, balancing the budget won't help if your system continue being broken and riddled with clientelism.




G.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Razgovory on August 09, 2011, 08:36:00 PM
Quote from: Grallon on August 09, 2011, 08:34:09 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 09, 2011, 02:35:15 PM


Heh.  Starting to balance our budget is the beginning of our fall?  Sounds good I hope we decline every year.


Talk to me again when you guys have started *raising taxes* - because that's the only way you'll be able to begin 'balancing your budget'.  So far all I see/hear about is more Voodoo Economics incantations.  Besides, balancing the budget won't help if your system continue being broken and riddled with clientelism.




G.

Talk about Projecting!  This coming from a guy who is living in the most corrupt province of Canada.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on August 10, 2011, 12:36:29 AM
almost voted famine due to the cheeky smiley. good work :thumbsup: but went with Tsunami.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: 11B4V on August 10, 2011, 02:30:48 AM
The eruption of the Yellowstone Caldera that will happen later in the year.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Neil on August 10, 2011, 06:32:41 AM
The sighting of the Great Dragon Ryumyo on December 24th.
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: grumbler on August 10, 2011, 06:41:24 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 10, 2011, 02:30:48 AM
The eruption of the Yellowstone Caldera that will happen later in the year.
+1
Title: Re: What will be the biggest news of 2011?
Post by: Ideologue on August 11, 2011, 09:41:05 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 10, 2011, 02:30:48 AM
The eruption of the Yellowstone Caldera that will happen later in the year.

OK Jor-El.