QuoteGranddad at 29... but hospital staff demand his ID because they think he's too young to be the FATHER!
He thinks the teenage father of the child is a 'decent young man'
Young mum Tia admits 'she wouldn't be happy' if newborn Gracie became pregnant at 14
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 10:57 AM on 1st August 2011
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A 29-year-old man who has become one of Britain's youngest grandparents was left red-faced after nurses asked him to prove he was over 16 as he tried to visit his daughter's baby.
Unemployed Shem Davies was overjoyed when 14-year-old Tia gave birth to Gracie earlier this month.
But when he tried to visit the ward, maternity nurses thought the fresh-faced granddad was in fact the teenage father of Gracie and asked him to prove his age.
Them and former girlfriend Kelly John, 30, became parents to Tia at the age of 15. Their daughter's boyfriend, Jordan Williams, is 15.
Shem said: 'It is an absolute joy to see Gracie thriving. I'm incredibly proud of Tia. She'll be a brilliant mum. At first I wasn't overly pleased that she was pregnant but I soon got over than. Now it's all about being positive.
'I've got to know Jordan and he's shaping up to be a decent young man,' Shem told The People.
But the arrival of Gracie wasn't easy as Tia was diagnosed with pre-eclampsia, seven weeks before her due date.
Worried doctors decided their best option would be to deliver the tot by Caesarean section.
The condition, which often leaves expectant mothers with high blood pressure and protein in their urine, could lead to life-threatening symptoms for both mother and baby.
Tia said the contrast between the carefree fun of the school playground and then the fear of death for her and the baby was something she would never forget.
Happily after a 25 minute operation Gracie was born but only weighed 2lb and was rushed to the special care unit at the Princess of Wales Hospital in Bridgend, which is close to the family home.
Little Gracie is still being kept in an incubator but has managed to put on enough weight which means she will be allowed home in a few weeks.
A week after Gracie was born Tia celebrated her 15th birthday in the ward surrounded by friends and family.
The teenager, who has been dating Jordan for 18 months and wants to be a hairdresser, said she didn't plan on celebrating her birthday in hospital but added that her baby daughter was the best present she could ask for.
Once mother and daughter have been released from hospital they will be staying with grandmother Kelly so that Tia can finish school.
Grandad Shem, who has a young son of his own, said he is keen to get stuck in and help Tia and Jordan settle into life.
Jordan, who sat his final GCSE just weeks before Gracie arrived, said he understands responsibility. 'I'm captain of the school rugby team and that's like having 14 kids.'
Despite her young age, mother Tia says that she would not be happy if newborn Gracie became pregnant at 14 but that she would do as her mum did, which is respect her choice to have a child.
She also paid tribute to her mother, who was 15 when she was born, saying that she could not have wished for a better parent and role model adding that they have a very close relationship.
Britain's high teenage pregnancy rate means that many more young people in this generation are set to become grandparents in their late twenties and early thirties.
The latest figures show in 2009 38,259 girls under 18 became pregnant, but nearly 50 per cent had a termination.
The UK still leads the way when it comes to young mothers, and our rate is five-times higher than in the Netherlands and twice that of France and Spain.
The Daily Mail.
Good job, UK. You outraced rural Alabama!
The picture of the happy family:
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Observe the visible deepening signs of retardation in the grandmother's and the mother's face.
I'do the grandpa though.
I think the grandmother looks like the brightest of the four, your judgment appears to be affected by misogyny. :hmm:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 04, 2011, 03:15:09 AM
I think the grandmother looks like the brightest of the four, your judgment appears to be affected by misogyny. :hmm:
Dunno. Maybe she is just ugly, but the mother does look positively retarded.
Poland isn't in the running because it wouldn't be fair to everyone else.
Same reason no one wants to play hoops against Magic Johnson.
Quote from: Slargos on August 04, 2011, 03:27:26 AM
Poland isn't in the running because it wouldn't be fair to everyone else.
Same reason no one wants to play hoops against Magic Johnson.
We don't have 29 y.o. granddads here.
Quote from: Slargos on August 04, 2011, 03:27:26 AM
Poland isn't in the running because it wouldn't be fair to everyone else.
Same reason no one wants to play hoops against Magic Johnson.
AIDS? :hmm:
Quote from: Syt on August 04, 2011, 03:29:52 AM
Quote from: Slargos on August 04, 2011, 03:27:26 AM
Poland isn't in the running because it wouldn't be fair to everyone else.
Same reason no one wants to play hoops against Magic Johnson.
AIDS? :hmm:
:D
Martinus: jealous because no one confuses him for someone under 30?
I get carded at the liquor store a lot. I look like: teenager.
What's worse than the Daily Mail running yet another dregs of humanity story? When they steal it wholesale from a possibly even more down-market publication, The People.
I was still getting carded sometimes a couple of years ago, but then I grew a goatee and it came in gray.
Quote from: Brazen on August 04, 2011, 08:26:06 AM
What's worse than the Daily Mail running yet another dregs of humanity story? When they steal it wholesale from a possibly even more down-market publication, The People.
Blaming the messenger, aren't you Brazen?
What I don't get is the way they look so proud in the picture. Kind of like those American tabloid shows "I'm fucking my best friend's daughter" sort of thing. The picture here seems to say: "Look how proud we are that we're a family of sluts and we're propagating the planet with more of us!"
Quote from: Brazen on August 04, 2011, 08:26:06 AM
What's worse than the Daily Mail running yet another dregs of humanity story? When they steal it wholesale from a possibly even more down-market publication, The People.
This does belong on the BBC.
Quote from: Josephus on August 04, 2011, 08:33:38 AM
The picture here seems to say: "Look how proud we are that we're a family of sluts and we're propagating the planet with more of us!"
I don't see any siblings...
Quote from: Martinus on August 04, 2011, 03:18:55 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 04, 2011, 03:15:09 AM
I think the grandmother looks like the brightest of the four, your judgment appears to be affected by misogyny. :hmm:
Dunno. Maybe she is just ugly, but the mother does look positively retarded.
Just British. They look like that.
Quote from: Josephus on August 04, 2011, 08:33:38 AM
Quote from: Brazen on August 04, 2011, 08:26:06 AM
What's worse than the Daily Mail running yet another dregs of humanity story? When they steal it wholesale from a possibly even more down-market publication, The People.
Blaming the messenger, aren't you Brazen?
What I don't get is the way they look so proud in the picture. Kind of like those American tabloid shows "I'm fucking my best friend's daughter" sort of thing. The picture here seems to say: "Look how proud we are that we're a family of sluts and we're propagating the planet with more of us!"
That's funny. I thought they looked like proud parents and grand-parents.
That you think they should feel shame for some reason says a lot about you. :hmm:
Quote from: Slargos on August 04, 2011, 08:51:19 AM
That's funny. I thought they looked like proud parents and grand-parents.
None of them look like proud grandparents, that was pointed out in the article. :P
Quote from: Josephus on August 04, 2011, 08:33:38 AM
Quote from: Brazen on August 04, 2011, 08:26:06 AM
What's worse than the Daily Mail running yet another dregs of humanity story? When they steal it wholesale from a possibly even more down-market publication, The People.
Blaming the messenger, aren't you Brazen?
What I don't get is the way they look so proud in the picture. Kind of like those American tabloid shows "I'm fucking my best friend's daughter" sort of thing. The picture here seems to say: "Look how proud we are that we're a family of sluts and we're propagating the planet with more of us!"
They're taking a picture. What do you want, a fucking Frenchman frown, so that when their newborn child is twenty she can look back and see how badly she ruined her parents' lives?
This is ugly journalism, designed to have people congratulate themselves on not having children when they were 14. Oh, respect to that. Did you all manage to finish high school too?
A gal who works in customer support in my department became a grandmother when she was 35 or 36. Her own grandma is still alive & kicking, so her grandkids will be able to say that they knew their great-great grandmother.
By contrast, my great-great grandfather was born in 1840 and served in the 126th Ohio Volunteer Infantry in the Civil War. Boggles the mind.
Quote from: derspiess on August 04, 2011, 09:15:11 AM
A gal who works in customer support in my department became a grandmother when she was 35 or 36. Her own grandma is still alive & kicking, so her grandkids will be able to say that they knew their great-great grandmother.
By contrast, my great-great grandfather was born in 1840 and served in the 126th Ohio Volunteer Infantry in the Civil War. Boggles the mind.
You only had one? That explains a lot.
Quote from: Razgovory on August 04, 2011, 09:18:55 AM
Quote from: derspiess on August 04, 2011, 09:15:11 AM
A gal who works in customer support in my department became a grandmother when she was 35 or 36. Her own grandma is still alive & kicking, so her grandkids will be able to say that they knew their great-great grandmother.
By contrast, my great-great grandfather was born in 1840 and served in the 126th Ohio Volunteer Infantry in the Civil War. Boggles the mind.
You only had one? That explains a lot.
He's my patrilineal great-great grandfather, so he's the one I focus on. Smartass.
Who wants to bet daddy isn't the real daddy? :P
Granddad's face resembles Peter North, though. :perv:
Quote from: derspiess on August 04, 2011, 09:15:11 AM
A gal who works in customer support in my department became a grandmother when she was 35 or 36. Her own grandma is still alive & kicking, so her grandkids will be able to say that they knew their great-great grandmother.
By contrast, my great-great grandfather was born in 1840 and served in the 126th Ohio Volunteer Infantry in the Civil War. Boggles the mind.
1840? Trashy.
Quote from: Drakken on August 04, 2011, 09:44:28 AM
Granddad's face resembles Peter North, though. :perv:
So the seduction community is a beard? :hmm:
Quote from: Razgovory on August 04, 2011, 09:18:55 AM
Quote from: derspiess on August 04, 2011, 09:15:11 AM
A gal who works in customer support in my department became a grandmother when she was 35 or 36. Her own grandma is still alive & kicking, so her grandkids will be able to say that they knew their great-great grandmother.
By contrast, my great-great grandfather was born in 1840 and served in the 126th Ohio Volunteer Infantry in the Civil War. Boggles the mind.
You only had one? That explains a lot.
:lmfao:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 04, 2011, 09:53:38 AM
So the seduction community is a beard? :hmm:
You are late, pal. Party ended long ago.
Stricken as non-responsive.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 04, 2011, 09:10:54 AM
They're taking a picture. What do you want, a fucking Frenchman frown, so that when their newborn child is twenty she can look back and see how badly she ruined her parents' lives?
This is ugly journalism, designed to have people congratulate themselves on not having children when they were 14. Oh, respect to that. Did you all manage to finish high school too?
It seems that, to Josephus, having kids = having sex = being a slut.
There are people like that They are similar to those who would excuse abortions in cases of rape and incest but otherwise ban it. Live with it.
Quote from: grumbler on August 04, 2011, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on August 04, 2011, 09:10:54 AM
They're taking a picture. What do you want, a fucking Frenchman frown, so that when their newborn child is twenty she can look back and see how badly she ruined her parents' lives?
This is ugly journalism, designed to have people congratulate themselves on not having children when they were 14. Oh, respect to that. Did you all manage to finish high school too?
It seems that, to Josephus, having kids = having sex = being a slut.
There are people like that They are similar to those who would excuse abortions in cases of rape and incest but otherwise ban it. Live with it.
Oh come on. The thread title uses the term "white trash" which pretty much covers the slant of the thread. It doesn't say Uk moves to the lead when it comes to nice young teenagers having coital relations with each other.
Any my point was the gist of the article and the picture. If my 14 year old daughter got knocked up, I'd like to keep it out of the daily press, yeah. We certainly wouldn't have a family pic of all of us smiling in the paper. I'm happy for them and all that but there's nothing particular to be proud of.
Quote from: Josephus on August 04, 2011, 01:46:41 PM
Quote from: grumbler on August 04, 2011, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on August 04, 2011, 09:10:54 AM
They're taking a picture. What do you want, a fucking Frenchman frown, so that when their newborn child is twenty she can look back and see how badly she ruined her parents' lives?
This is ugly journalism, designed to have people congratulate themselves on not having children when they were 14. Oh, respect to that. Did you all manage to finish high school too?
It seems that, to Josephus, having kids = having sex = being a slut.
There are people like that They are similar to those who would excuse abortions in cases of rape and incest but otherwise ban it. Live with it.
Oh come on. The thread title uses the term "white trash" which pretty much covers the slant of the thread. It doesn't say Uk moves to the lead when it comes to nice young teenagers having coital relations with each other.
Any my point was the gist of the article and the picture. If my 14 year old daughter got knocked up, I'd like to keep it out of the daily press, yeah. We certainly wouldn't have a family pic of all of us smiling in the paper. I'm happy for them and all that but there's nothing particular to be proud of.
Calling them attention whores may be warranted. I would expect this to be a news story regardless of whether they wanted the attention though.
Calling them sluts because they had children early? Does not follow.
I was using hyperbole, which I'm convinced is not the first time that's been used on this forum. Sheesh. Tough crowd tonight. It's OK to call them white trash, though.
Quote from: Josephus on August 04, 2011, 01:52:41 PM
I was using hyperbole, which I'm convinced is not the first time that's been used on this forum. Sheesh. Tough crowd tonight. It's OK to call them white trash, though.
Your definition of hyperbole appears to be as functional as Marti's definition of analogy. :P
How Marti defines anal stuff is neither here nor there. :D