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Title: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Razgovory on August 03, 2011, 12:04:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cRIWmbrGps&feature=related

Found this video on Youtube.  There's a whole bunch of old German newsreels.  This one has Canadians. 

Some are not clear what exactly is happening or where.  One I saw involved a Tiger tanks and and grenadiers attacking... something in Russia.  The title said it was from 1944, but I have no idea exactly when or where it was taken.  Probably summer in the Ukraine or Poland, so likely during or right after Bagration.

But I suppose that's the nature of Nazi films.
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: KRonn on August 03, 2011, 08:29:54 AM
Pretty interesting footage and commentary from the German side. A narration of events n the newsreel, showing how well prepared and ready Germany was, but we all know how that all turned out.
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Razgovory on August 03, 2011, 08:36:29 AM
They omit a great deal.  Also I don't know how accurate the translation is.
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: DGuller on August 03, 2011, 08:40:56 AM
Did Allies ever turn things around?
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Josephus on August 03, 2011, 08:44:49 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 03, 2011, 08:40:56 AM
Did Allies ever turn things around?

hard to say. I heard the Chinese blocked all Google searches on it.
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Razgovory on August 03, 2011, 08:53:36 AM
Quote from: DGuller on August 03, 2011, 08:40:56 AM
Did Allies ever turn things around?

As the war got worse for the Germans their newsreels seemed to focus on ancillary topics like the War on Christmas, some nobody professor in Colorado, and the "gay agenda".
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: alfred russel on August 03, 2011, 08:57:08 AM
I haven't seen propoganda like that since the Bush administration.
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Sahib on August 03, 2011, 09:03:00 AM
This video is not available :/
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Razgovory on August 03, 2011, 09:36:35 AM
Quote from: Sahib on August 03, 2011, 09:03:00 AM
This video is not available :/

Maybe it's a Polish thing.

Oh and seems the comment list is  full of Slargos types.
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Zanza on August 03, 2011, 09:58:31 AM
Quote from: Sahib on August 03, 2011, 09:03:00 AM
This video is not available :/
Not available in Germany either.  :(
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Razgovory on August 03, 2011, 10:19:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/WW2GermanNewsreels

I wonder if you can get to it by going through the User profile.
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: derspiess on August 03, 2011, 10:23:44 AM
Quote from: Zanza on August 03, 2011, 09:58:31 AM
Quote from: Sahib on August 03, 2011, 09:03:00 AM
This video is not available :/
Not available in Germany either.  :(

Dang.  Well make sure to let your neighbors know that the Atlantic Wall is still intact.


I liked the part where they showed off "one of the many gliders that was brought down".  Umm, gliders are supposed to do that.  They aren't supposed to look pretty after they land, either.
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: derspiess on August 03, 2011, 10:28:05 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 03, 2011, 08:36:29 AM
They omit a great deal.  Also I don't know how accurate the translation is.

I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention to the narration, but most of what I heard seemed to match up with the translation.  Only nitpick I have is how they translated PaK (Panzerabwehrkanone-- anti-tank gun) as "pack rifle".
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: KRonn on August 03, 2011, 12:11:13 PM
Quote from: Zanza on August 03, 2011, 09:58:31 AM
Quote from: Sahib on August 03, 2011, 09:03:00 AM
This video is not available :/
Not available in Germany either.  :(
Censored for some reason? It's a good tidbit of history, propaganda or not,  being a wartime newsreel.
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Syt on August 03, 2011, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: Zanza on August 03, 2011, 09:58:31 AM
Quote from: Sahib on August 03, 2011, 09:03:00 AM
This video is not available :/
Not available in Germany either.  :(

Available in Austria, home of the Whop . . . err . . . Führer.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F0.tqn.com%2Fd%2Fpoliticalhumor%2F1%2F0%2FE%2F1%2Farnold_reich.jpg&hash=ef12a0f42956e5884ed3f54d5550560bab66122f)
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Syt on August 03, 2011, 12:31:51 PM
Pretty decent translation. At one point it should have used "flare", not "rocket." Also, when they show the captured paratroopers the subtitle says, "they can't believe the invasion is over", when in German voiceover it adds "for them."
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: DGuller on August 03, 2011, 12:50:13 PM
Quote from: Syt on August 03, 2011, 12:31:51 PM
Pretty decent translation. At one point it should have used "flare", not "rocket." Also, when they show the captured paratroopers the subtitle says, "they can't believe the invasion is over", when in German voiceover it adds "for them."
That last part is quite an enormous difference, I would think.  :blink:
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Zanza on August 04, 2011, 04:18:17 AM
Quote from: KRonn on August 03, 2011, 12:11:13 PMCensored for some reason? It's a good tidbit of history, propaganda or not,  being a wartime newsreel.
No idea. Most Youtube videos that aren't available in Germany contain music and were "censored" by our version of RIAA. But with WW2 stuff it could also be that it is censored by Youtube so that they don't risk breaking the German anti-Nazi laws.
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Syt on August 04, 2011, 07:00:21 AM
Quote from: Zanza on August 04, 2011, 04:18:17 AM
Quote from: KRonn on August 03, 2011, 12:11:13 PMCensored for some reason? It's a good tidbit of history, propaganda or not,  being a wartime newsreel.
No idea. Most Youtube videos that aren't available in Germany contain music and were "censored" by our version of RIAA. But with WW2 stuff it could also be that it is censored by Youtube so that they don't risk breaking the German anti-Nazi laws.

In which case it would very likely also be blocked by Austrians who are at least as rigorous as the German authorities in that regard.
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 04, 2011, 07:01:34 AM

Here's how the Germans saw it:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.celluloidheroreviews.com%2Fimages%2Fthe-longest-day-3.jpg&hash=2eb42efab6534bbd0b9402800ea94911a52b07b6)
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: grumbler on August 04, 2011, 07:20:48 AM
Quote from: Syt on August 04, 2011, 07:00:21 AM
Quote from: Zanza on August 04, 2011, 04:18:17 AM
No idea. Most Youtube videos that aren't available in Germany contain music and were "censored" by our version of RIAA. But with WW2 stuff it could also be that it is censored by Youtube so that they don't risk breaking the German anti-Nazi laws.

In which case it would very likely also be blocked by Austrians who are at least as rigorous as the German authorities in that regard.
But if the censorship is extended past what is logical, you would expect enforcement to be inconsistent, so you wouldn't expect the Austrian authorities to censor the same things.  Inconsistent enforcement is what you would expect in the case of poorly-thought-out laws.
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: The Brain on August 04, 2011, 08:10:47 AM
What about poorly thought in-laws?
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Ideologue on August 04, 2011, 08:25:34 AM
Quote from: Zanza on August 04, 2011, 04:18:17 AM
Quote from: KRonn on August 03, 2011, 12:11:13 PMCensored for some reason? It's a good tidbit of history, propaganda or not,  being a wartime newsreel.
No idea. Most Youtube videos that aren't available in Germany contain music and were "censored" by our version of RIAA. But with WW2 stuff it could also be that it is censored by Youtube so that they don't risk breaking the German anti-Nazi laws.

I'm filing this away for the next time some dumbass Euro argues why their speech regime is so benign.  "WHY DO YOU LOVE RACISM?"
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: derspiess on August 04, 2011, 09:34:25 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 04, 2011, 08:10:47 AM
What about poorly thought in-laws?

I have a couple :angry:
Title: Re: How the Germans saw D-Day
Post by: Drakken on August 04, 2011, 09:49:58 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 04, 2011, 07:01:34 AM

Here's how the Germans saw it:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.celluloidheroreviews.com%2Fimages%2Fthe-longest-day-3.jpg&hash=2eb42efab6534bbd0b9402800ea94911a52b07b6)

Bet Sgt. Kaffekanne didn't see that one coming on his usual donkey trail.