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Title: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: garbon on August 01, 2011, 06:57:56 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/giffords-house-first-time-since-shooting-231457041.html

QuoteRep. Gabrielle Giffords returned to the House for the first time since she was shot last January, making a dramatic entrance Monday night during a crucial debt vote and drawing loud applause and cheers from surprised colleagues.

As lawmakers stood on the floor, staring up at the vote board, Giffords slowly made her way through an entrance on the Democratic side of the chamber. Applause built and rolled like a wave through the House as lawmakers realized that their colleague had returned.

On Jan. 8, Giffords, D-Ariz., was shot in the head in the parking lot of a Tucson grocery store while meeting with constituents. Six people were killed and 13 others, including Giffords, were wounded. The man charged in the shooting, Jared Lee Loughner, has pleaded not guilty to 49 charges

On the House floor, Giffords hugged and kissed fellow lawmakers. As time ticked off on the vote, Democrats and Republicans made their way toward her.

She cast her first vote — for the debt-limit bill — and left the Capitol.

"It means so much to our country ... to witness the return of our colleague who is the personification of courage, of sincerity, of admiration throughout the country," Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California told the House.


Giffords has been undergoing outpatient therapy in Houston since her release from the hospital in June.

Loughner was sent to a federal prison facility in Springfield, Mo., after a federal judge concluded he was mentally incompetent to stand trial.

:hmm:
Title: Re: http://news.yahoo.com/giffords-house-first-time-since-shooting-231457041.html
Post by: sbr on August 01, 2011, 06:59:03 PM
I would have preferred a more original thread title.
Title: Re: http://news.yahoo.com/giffords-house-first-time-since-shooting-231457041.html
Post by: Razgovory on August 01, 2011, 06:59:27 PM
Pelosi is better then you garbon.  In every way a person can be be better then you.
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: garbon on August 01, 2011, 06:59:52 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 01, 2011, 06:59:27 PM
Pelosi is better then you garbon.  In every way a person can be be better then you.

I don't want to be better then. :P
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: sbr on August 01, 2011, 07:04:27 PM
Hmm, you renamed the thread.  :glare:
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: garbon on August 01, 2011, 07:17:50 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 01, 2011, 07:04:27 PM
Hmm, you renamed the thread.  :glare:

Something was going on when I tried to copy and paste the headline.
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on August 01, 2011, 10:32:44 PM
Good to see Rep. Giffords isn't so mentally retarded as to be unable to stumble into Congress and cast a vote.

No word yet on whether she can form coherent sentences, though. However given the long presence of persons such as Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, Ted Stevens, and Strom Thurmond the ability to form complete sentences is obviously not necessarily mandatory to participate in the Federal legislature.
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: grumbler on August 01, 2011, 10:36:43 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 01, 2011, 10:32:44 PM
Good to see Rep. Giffords isn't so mentally retarded as to be unable to stumble into Congress and cast a vote.

No word yet on whether she can form coherent sentences, though. However given the long presence of persons such as Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, Ted Stevens, and Strom Thurmond the ability to form complete sentences is obviously not necessarily mandatory to participate in the Federal legislature.
We survived "nukular" Dubya, we can survive zombie Giffords.
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: 11B4V on August 01, 2011, 10:37:23 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 01, 2011, 10:32:44 PM
Good to see Rep. Giffords isn't so mentally retarded as to be unable to stumble into Congress and cast a vote.


She'll do well then.
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: OttoVonBismarck on August 01, 2011, 10:38:43 PM
Quote from: grumbler on August 01, 2011, 10:36:43 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 01, 2011, 10:32:44 PM
Good to see Rep. Giffords isn't so mentally retarded as to be unable to stumble into Congress and cast a vote.

No word yet on whether she can form coherent sentences, though. However given the long presence of persons such as Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, Ted Stevens, and Strom Thurmond the ability to form complete sentences is obviously not necessarily mandatory to participate in the Federal legislature.
We survived "nukular" Dubya, we can survive zombie Giffords.

We also survived "nukular" engineer Jimmy Carter, navy ass clown.
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: Razgovory on August 01, 2011, 10:47:05 PM
Actually, I would like it if more Congressmen just voted rather then talked.  Most of what they say on the floor of Congress has little worth anyway.
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: grumbler on August 01, 2011, 11:20:02 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 01, 2011, 10:38:43 PM
We also survived "nukular" engineer Jimmy Carter, navy ass clown.
True, though that was not hard,  He was not willing to destroy the American economy like Dubya was, though, so it hardly mattered.

Carter inherited a crap economy and passed on a crap economy.  The Dubya inherited economic gold and turned it into economic horseshit.  But blaming him is unfair, IMO.  The voters actually gave him a second term, knowing what was coming.  That's why their complaints about higher taxes get so little sympathy from me.
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: DontSayBanana on August 01, 2011, 11:56:15 PM
Quote from: grumbler on August 01, 2011, 11:20:02 PM
True, though that was not hard,  He was not willing to destroy the American economy like Dubya was, though, so it hardly mattered.

Carter inherited a crap economy and passed on a crap economy.  The Dubya inherited economic gold and turned it into economic horseshit.  But blaming him is unfair, IMO.  The voters actually gave him a second term, knowing what was coming.  That's why their complaints about higher taxes get so little sympathy from me.

So you'd call the dot-com bubble and its subsequent crash "economic gold?" I'll agree that the economy took a nosedive under Dubya, but let's not overstate the condition the economy was in and would inevitably be in when Dubya took office.
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: dps on August 02, 2011, 03:21:25 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 01, 2011, 10:32:44 PM
Good to see Rep. Giffords isn't so mentally retarded as to be unable to stumble into Congress and cast a vote.

No word yet on whether she can form coherent sentences, though. However given the long presence of persons such as Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, Ted Stevens, and Strom Thurmond the ability to form complete sentences is obviously not necessarily mandatory to participate in the Federal legislature.

Yeah, but those guys were all Senators.  We're talking about the House of Representatives here.
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 02, 2011, 04:03:14 AM
Quote from: grumbler on August 01, 2011, 11:20:02 PM
Carter inherited a crap economy and passed on a crap economy.  The Dubya inherited economic gold and turned it into economic horseshit.  But blaming him is unfair, IMO.  The voters actually gave him a second term, knowing what was coming.  That's why their complaints about higher taxes get so little sympathy from me.

Blaming him is unfair because the President doesn't hold the power to magically fix the economy. Nor does Congress. Their efforts to do so probably hurt more than they helped, but our current problems were unavoidable, short of nuclear strikes on China and India.
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 02, 2011, 05:14:48 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 02, 2011, 04:03:14 AM
short of nuclear strikes on China

You've got my vote.
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: Razgovory on August 02, 2011, 09:45:20 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 02, 2011, 04:03:14 AM
Quote from: grumbler on August 01, 2011, 11:20:02 PM
Carter inherited a crap economy and passed on a crap economy.  The Dubya inherited economic gold and turned it into economic horseshit.  But blaming him is unfair, IMO.  The voters actually gave him a second term, knowing what was coming.  That's why their complaints about higher taxes get so little sympathy from me.

Blaming him is unfair because the President doesn't hold the power to magically fix the economy. Nor does Congress. Their efforts to do so probably hurt more than they helped, but our current problems were unavoidable, short of nuclear strikes on China and India.

No, but they have the power to wreck it.
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: Martinus on August 02, 2011, 09:47:21 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 01, 2011, 10:32:44 PM
Good to see Rep. Giffords isn't so mentally retarded as to be unable to stumble into Congress and cast a vote.
I think it is a rather low bar. ;)
Title: Re: Giffords in House for first time since shooting
Post by: sbr on August 02, 2011, 06:45:59 PM
Quote from: Martinus on August 02, 2011, 09:47:21 AM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on August 01, 2011, 10:32:44 PM
Good to see Rep. Giffords isn't so mentally retarded as to be unable to stumble into Congress and cast a vote.
I think it is a rather low bar. ;)

No shit, I would put more stock in my teen-aged daughters and 3 cats than those idiots.