Poll
Question:
Will the US government pass a bill raising the debt ceiling before the money runs out
Option 1: Yes it will
votes: 15
Option 2: No it won't
votes: 14
August 2nd is the projected time for the money running out, right?
Will the debt ceiling be raised in time? Yes/ no? And why do you think so? And then what will happen?
On the last day. Do I still get 100:1 odds, DG?
Tea Partiers probably want to intentionally stick it to the Chinese debt holders.
Quote from: Jacob on July 26, 2011, 12:01:22 AM
Will the debt ceiling be raised in time?
Yes, they will do it and with all the theater and glory reminiscent of Rome. With the exception of assassinations of course.
QuoteAnd why do you think so?
Neither party wants to commit political suicide.
QuoteAnd then what will happen?
Life will go on as usual until they cook up some other crisis.
I see them all in their glory and pagentry. There on the hill, with their buildings of white stone and marble. So beautiful, yet so corrupt. Once a bright fire now nothing more than a fading ember. Oh Rome, Oh Rome........ :blurgh: :blurgh: :blurgh: :blurgh: :blurgh:
Nope. Say Bye Bye to our way of life. Thanks Tea Party.
I'm starting to suspect not unfortunately.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 26, 2011, 06:16:28 AM
I'm starting to suspect not unfortunately.
If it doesn't, you are to blame.
This time next month:
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Ohio? Illinois? Kansas? Michigan?
No way those crazies are getting into Canada.
Of course this is all election theater.
Quote from: Neil on July 26, 2011, 07:45:47 AM
Ohio? Illinois? Kansas? Michigan?
No way those crazies are getting into Canada.
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Quote from: Tyr on July 26, 2011, 07:39:01 AM
This time next month:
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Could be worse. If I had to pick a country to rule over me, I could do worse then the Canucks.
Quote from: Zeus on July 26, 2011, 08:02:44 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 26, 2011, 07:45:47 AM
Ohio? Illinois? Kansas? Michigan?
No way those crazies are getting into Canada.
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Your hotlink seems to have failed.
Quote from: Razgovory on July 26, 2011, 08:11:16 AM
Quote from: Tyr on July 26, 2011, 07:39:01 AM
This time next month:
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Could be worse. If I had to pick a country to rule over me, I could do worse then the Canucks.
You'll have to pay more taxes tho, about 50% more.
Quote from: 11B4V on July 26, 2011, 02:26:44 AM
Life will go on as usual until they cook up some other crisis.
Truer words never spoken.
I don't care either way, I'm hedged thanks to the bet with Yi.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 26, 2011, 08:42:04 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 26, 2011, 08:11:16 AM
Quote from: Tyr on July 26, 2011, 07:39:01 AM
This time next month:
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Could be worse. If I had to pick a country to rule over me, I could do worse then the Canucks.
You'll have to pay more taxes tho, about 50% more.
I don't have a job.
Quote from: Razgovory on July 26, 2011, 08:49:29 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 26, 2011, 08:42:04 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 26, 2011, 08:11:16 AM
Quote from: Tyr on July 26, 2011, 07:39:01 AM
This time next month:
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Could be worse. If I had to pick a country to rule over me, I could do worse then the Canucks.
You'll have to pay more taxes tho, about 50% more.
I don't have a job.
That's not an excuse around these parts.
Quote from: Razgovory on July 26, 2011, 08:49:29 AM
I don't have a job.
You'll be pressed into service doing 12 hour shifts at your newly-opened curling center :contract:
That map has become as tedious as the soda/pop map.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 26, 2011, 08:53:46 AM
That map has become as tedious as the soda/pop map.
I like this one: (https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmkt.tableausoftware.com%2Ffiles%2Fcoke-soda-pop-pie-chart-data-visualization-map-2.png&hash=6d704c97ca63941e1beeedba75082dff1a91ac70)
Someone needs to do that survey for Canada.
Quote from: garbon on July 26, 2011, 09:05:07 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 26, 2011, 08:53:46 AM
That map has become as tedious as the soda/pop map.
I like this one: (https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmkt.tableausoftware.com%2Ffiles%2Fcoke-soda-pop-pie-chart-data-visualization-map-2.png&hash=6d704c97ca63941e1beeedba75082dff1a91ac70)
:bleeding:
Coke: :bleeding:
Hooray for the Coca-cola marketing team.
Quote from: Neil on July 26, 2011, 09:38:28 AM
Hooray for the Coca-cola marketing team.
Just a regional thing, since they're based out of Atlanta.
I go out of my way to say "soda" around here. "Pop" reminds me too much of West Virginia.
Quote from: derspiess on July 26, 2011, 10:57:16 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 26, 2011, 09:38:28 AM
Hooray for the Coca-cola marketing team.
Just a regional thing, since they're based out of Atlanta.
I go out of my way to say "soda" around here. "Pop" reminds me too much of West Virginia.
In Quebec, Coke is the word to use.
Quote from: Neil on July 26, 2011, 07:45:47 AM
Ohio? Illinois? Kansas? Michigan?
No way those crazies are getting into Canada.
Illinois is pretty liberal, just corrupt.
I admit a little part of me is curious to see what would happen if the ceiling wasn't raised in time. If it weren't for the small problem of having to live through whatever the consequences might be, it is an interesting economic experiment.
Quote from: Martinus on July 26, 2011, 11:02:50 AM
Quote from: Neil on July 26, 2011, 07:45:47 AM
Ohio? Illinois? Kansas? Michigan?
No way those crazies are getting into Canada.
Illinois is pretty liberal, just corrupt.
I don't trust American liberals either. They're incapable of moderation and are wracked by white guilt.
There is a plan that Congress may/should vote on today, apparently. But I'm having serious doubts that this will get done in time. Or if a plan/budget is even passed then it still may not satisfy the S&Ps of the world and the US interest rate may get raised anyway. I may have to retreat to my bomb shelter until this all gets sorted out! :tinfoil:
Quote from: Tyr on July 26, 2011, 07:39:01 AM
This time next month:
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lulz, the best thing about this map is South Carolina, Tennessee, and Kentucky joining the EU.
How did Tim become a Russian professor anyhow?
It's hard to decide what's the dumbest about that map....
Quote from: Jacob on July 26, 2011, 12:38:06 PM
How did Tim become a Russian professor anyhow?
It's hard to decide what's the dumbest about that map....
Half of the South being "Mexican" is up there, yeah.
Atlantic America in the EU? Berkut and Seedy in the EU? Yeah, that will go down well.
Wyoming, Canada...
Quote from: PDH on July 26, 2011, 01:04:01 PM
Wyoming, Canada...
I think I can guess this.
North Korea?
Somalia?
Wrong.
Sweden, Hell.
WTF :(
The dumbest thing is that all the state keep their territorial integrity. We will take back the Ohio delta!
Quote from: Jacob on July 26, 2011, 12:38:06 PM
How did Tim become a Russian professor anyhow?
It's hard to decide what's the dumbest about that map....
No shit. It's like someone tried to geographically optimize the split of US, and seemed to not pay too much attention to cultural factors.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 26, 2011, 01:32:41 PM
The dumbest thing is that all the state keep their territorial integrity. We will take back the Ohio delta!
:yes: Whether partitioning or a complete government breakdown that ends up in the region being slowly picked back up piecemeal, border disputes are going to be inevitable.
Quote from: Norgy on July 26, 2011, 12:50:10 PM
Atlantic America in the EU? Berkut and Seedy in the EU? Yeah, that will go down well.
If that were to happen, may Hod help save the EU! :D
Can someone point out for me where the Ohio delta is? :unsure:
Quote from: derspiess on July 26, 2011, 02:23:15 PM
Can someone point out for me where the Ohio delta is? :unsure:
He means the Ohio Valley. Roughly "Ohio, eastern Indiana, Western Pennsylvania, and northwestern West Virginia" per wikipedia. Claimed by France (and Great Britain, and the Iroquois) and lost after the French and Indian War.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Valley
Wyoming shall always remain square! We will fight any Dakotan who tries to change us!
Quote from: Valmy on July 26, 2011, 07:55:20 AM
Of course this is all election theater.
Unfortunately they've decided that maintaining the theater is more important than compromising and gaining a RINO label.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on July 26, 2011, 11:25:16 AM
I admit a little part of me is curious to see what would happen if the ceiling wasn't raised in time. If it weren't for the small problem of having to live through whatever the consequences might be, it is an interesting economic experiment.
I'm already feeling the affects in the job market. No contractor wants to hire right now due to uncertainty over whether they'll get paid or see their customer's budget get slashed.
Quote from: DGuller on July 26, 2011, 08:48:44 AM
I don't care either way, I'm hedged thanks to the bet with Yi.
I sort of am too, since $80 will be worth less after a default. :P
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 26, 2011, 03:52:05 PM
Quote from: DGuller on July 26, 2011, 08:48:44 AM
I don't care either way, I'm hedged thanks to the bet with Yi.
I sort of am too, since $80 will be worth less after a default. :P
:face:
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 26, 2011, 01:32:41 PM
The dumbest thing is that all the state keep their territorial integrity. We will take back the Ohio delta!
lolz
Told ya so. High drama and Theater.
Looks like I guessed right.