Well, the next book is ready and will be published in 30 days time on 12 July. So, I'm going to use this opportunity to post predictions, not just for the book but for the remainder of the series.
- The Sailor's Wife in Braavos is actually Tysha Lannister (wife of Tyrion) and her daughter the blonde Lanna is his daughter and ultimate heir to Casterly Rock.
- The book Maester Aemon left on Jon's desk tells him the story of the TOJ, his part in it.
- Jon is son of Rhaegar + Lyanna (obvious prediction).
- Ned learned about the prophecy from Lyanna. Howland Reed knows as well and Ned told the Mormonts.
- Longclaw = Dawn = Lightbringer
- Mance is Rhaegar
- Aurane Waters = Aegon son of Rhaegar
- Dany gets two fleets, the Iron Fleet and Aurane's Fleet.
- Janos Slynt tries to kill Jon and he or one of the other Lannister catspaws "succeeds", this means Jon is released from his NW oath, he is revived by melisandre.
- Characters mysteriously age several years instantly.
Quotehttp://Mance is Rhaegar
Woah :tinfoil:
- Victarion kills Quentyn Martell
Isn't Aurane Waters a bit too old to be Aegon? He's over twenty, while Aegon would have been only slightly older than Robb and Jon.
- Every bit character is either someone else, or the son/daughter of an important character. Half the cast of appropriate age are sons of Rhaegar.
Quote from: Solmyr on June 13, 2011, 10:53:06 AM
Isn't Aurane Waters a bit too old to be Aegon? He's over twenty, while Aegon would have been only slightly older than Robb and Jon.
He was an infant at the time of the sack of KL, so he would be some years older than Robb, Jon and Dany.
- Ned returns.
Quote- The Sailor's Wife in Braavos is actually Tysha Lannister (wife of Tyrion) and her daughter the blonde Lanna is his daughter and ultimate heir to Casterly Rock.
:tinfoil: That's a new one. Never heard that before.
Agreed on Jon. Seems rather obvious. Though that every fan has been predicting it forever sort of makes me think George might go another way...but nah.
Jon dying and being released from his oath....maybe in a future book, don't think its coming next.
Aurane Waters being someone of note...nah. Hope not anyway. That seems a bit potentially obvious not just to readers but to people in universe.
I'm sticking with Melisandre= Anti-Other. Some sort of symetry is in place with Asshai and its permanent night. Though doubt that will come up in the next book, Dany is going to Valeria there, not Asshai.
Quote from: Viking on June 13, 2011, 11:00:17 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on June 13, 2011, 10:53:06 AM
Isn't Aurane Waters a bit too old to be Aegon? He's over twenty, while Aegon would have been only slightly older than Robb and Jon.
He was an infant at the time of the sack of KL, so he would be some years older than Robb, Jon and Dany.
Still Aegon would not be older than 20, while Aurane is over that.
Most of the predictions in this thread will prove to be wrong.
I predict he will start a million billion new small plotlines that go all over the place most of which will go fucking nowhere and by the books end he will have resolved none of the old or new ones. Also I predict much annoyance when the next book will be announced in 2018 which will be the last as he dies from obesity run rampant a month later.
Quote from: Cecil on June 13, 2011, 12:24:46 PM
I predict he will start a million billion new small plotlines that go all over the place most of which will go fucking nowhere and by the books end he will have resolved none of the old or new ones. Also I predict much annoyance when the next book will be announced in 2018 which will be the last as he dies from obesity run rampant a month later.
:lol: Bitter much?
Quote from: Valmy on June 13, 2011, 12:41:53 PM
Quote from: Cecil on June 13, 2011, 12:24:46 PM
I predict he will start a million billion new small plotlines that go all over the place most of which will go fucking nowhere and by the books end he will have resolved none of the old or new ones. Also I predict much annoyance when the next book will be announced in 2018 which will be the last as he dies from obesity run rampant a month later.
:lol: Bitter much?
More like needling the fantards that seems to populate every forum in the universe. Personally I never understood whats so great about this series. Though I´ve read it through it always struck me as pretty average. The books tend to take about a year to read through as they never capture my fancy enough for more than a chapter or two.
Quote from: Cecil on June 13, 2011, 12:55:58 PM
More like needling the fantards that seems to populate every forum in the universe. Personally I never understood whats so great about this series. Though I´ve read it through it always struck me as pretty average. The books tend to take about a year to read through as they never capture my fancy enough for more than a chapter or two.
Your needling would be more effective if you did not post like you are a bitter fantard of the series yourself.
Fair enough. Lots of people like all sorts of things I do not care for.
Quote from: Valmy on June 13, 2011, 12:59:49 PM
Quote from: Cecil on June 13, 2011, 12:55:58 PM
More like needling the fantards that seems to populate every forum in the universe. Personally I never understood whats so great about this series. Though I´ve read it through it always struck me as pretty average. The books tend to take about a year to read through as they never capture my fancy enough for more than a chapter or two.
Your needling would be more effective if you did not post like you are a bitter fantard of the series yourself.
Fair enough. Lots of people like all sorts of things I do not care for.
Probably my annoyance that every fantasy discussion thread I´ve read/written in the last 15 years always get populated by Martin fans screaming the glory of the series and eating up all the other actually interesting shit like a horde of cyberlocusts.
I am revealed to be Rhaegar.
Quote from: Scipio on June 13, 2011, 01:07:28 PM
I am revealed to be Rhaegar.
And then Scip gives Westeros the Libertarian government it deserves.
Quote from: Cecil on June 13, 2011, 01:07:17 PM
Probably my annoyance that every fantasy discussion thread I´ve read/written in the last 15 years always get populated by Martin fans screaming the glory of the series and eating up all the other actually interesting shit like a horde of cyberlocusts.
:console:
Westerosi Wild Turkey Party?
Quote from: Valmy on June 13, 2011, 01:12:26 PM
Quote from: Scipio on June 13, 2011, 01:07:28 PM
I am revealed to be Rhaegar.
And then Scip gives Westeros the Libertarian government it deserves.
Do you think so little of Westeros?
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on June 13, 2011, 10:59:33 AM
- Every bit character is either someone else, or the son/daughter of an important character. Half the cast of appropriate age are sons of Rhaegar.
They are also all each other's twins but some of them have been in a coma/had plastic surgery.
- It was all a dream. Or fiction at least.
Quote from: Viking on June 13, 2011, 10:39:28 AM
- Aurane Waters = Aegon son of Rhaegar
Aurane Waters = Fake Aegon Targaryen
Podrick Payne = son of Tyrion
Margeary Tyrell = headless
Quote from: The Brain on June 13, 2011, 02:13:15 PM
- It was all a dream. Or fiction at least.
- She's been deeeeead for TWENTY years! *eerie music*
Rhaegar is Keyser Söze.
Quote from: Cecil on June 13, 2011, 01:07:17 PM
Probably my annoyance that every fantasy discussion thread I´ve read/written in the last 15 years always get populated by Martin fans screaming the glory of the series and eating up all the other actually interesting shit like a horde of cyberlocusts.
What fantasy series would you recommend?
Quote from: Habbaku on June 13, 2011, 05:54:38 PM
Quote from: Cecil on June 13, 2011, 01:07:17 PM
Probably my annoyance that every fantasy discussion thread I´ve read/written in the last 15 years always get populated by Martin fans screaming the glory of the series and eating up all the other actually interesting shit like a horde of cyberlocusts.
What fantasy series would you recommend?
The one where Martin finishes the books. Failing that, Gene Wolfe's The Wizard Knight, or Book of the New Sun, or Long Sun. Latro of the Mist series is good as well.
Quote from: Habbaku on June 13, 2011, 05:54:38 PM
What fantasy series would you recommend?
Office of Management and Budget, Federal Budgetary Projections, 2001 - present.
Great mix of sorcery and horror with each serial presenting a cliffhanger ending. Only downside is like Martin, it probably won't come to resolution before the bloated creature keels over.
Can Jon be a legal son of Rhaegar rather than his bastard?
Is there any way, according to Westeros laws, that Rhaegar could have married Lyanna before giving birth?
Quote from: Siege on June 13, 2011, 06:15:37 PM
Can Jon be a legal son of Rhaegar rather than his bastard?
Is there any way, according to Westeros laws, that Rhaegar could have married Lyanna before giving birth?
If Rhaegar's giving birth, we've all got bigger problems.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 13, 2011, 06:03:34 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 13, 2011, 05:54:38 PM
What fantasy series would you recommend?
Office of Management and Budget, Federal Budgetary Projections, 2001 - present.
Great mix of sorcery and horror with each serial presenting a cliffhanger ending. Only downside is like Martin, it probably won't come to resolution before the bloated creature keels over.
I don't have time for more forlorn hopes as far as my reading goes. I will stick to reading things like
The Wages of Destruction that have good endings.
Quote from: Siege on June 13, 2011, 06:15:37 PM
Can Jon be a legal son of Rhaegar rather than his bastard?
Is there any way, according to Westeros laws, that Rhaegar could have married Lyanna before giving birth?
No. Rhaegar already had a wife and I suspect bigamy is just as unacceptable in Westeros as it is outside of Utah and your neck of the woods.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 13, 2011, 06:03:34 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 13, 2011, 05:54:38 PM
What fantasy series would you recommend?
Office of Management and Budget, Federal Budgetary Projections, 2001 - present.
Great mix of sorcery and horror with each serial presenting a cliffhanger ending. Only downside is like Martin, it probably won't come to resolution before the bloated creature keels over.
:D
I highly recommend the Dresden Files series. It's an urban fantasy series, but well-written, and the author reliably puts out a new book each year.
It's currently on book 13 of about 20.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on June 13, 2011, 06:39:15 PM
I highly recommend the Dresden Files series. It's an urban fantasy series, but well-written, and the author reliably puts out a new book each year.
It's currently on book 13 of about 20.
Sounds like
Supernatural. :hmm:
Urban fantasy....I'm really not big on modern fantasy....Has just never done it for me in book form for some reason.
Though I should read more fantasy....
China Mieville is rather good. I imagine particularly so if you're a big city person.
QuoteNo. Rhaegar already had a wife and I suspect bigamy is just as unacceptable in Westeros as it is outside of Utah and your neck of the woods.
Maybe he married Liana in secret before her...maybe Dani is the bastard.
And of course the Targs have done polygamy in the past.
Quote from: Tyr on June 13, 2011, 07:58:02 PM
Maybe he married Liana in secret before her...maybe Dani is the bastard.
:huh:
Forget it, just checked and got the timeline wrong.
Quote from: Tyr on June 13, 2011, 07:58:02 PM
And of course the Targs have done polygamy in the past.
Although this is quite true. Along with incest. The rules of marriage didn't seem to apply to them, probably because they had dragons.
Quote from: Habbaku on June 13, 2011, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: Siege on June 13, 2011, 06:15:37 PM
Can Jon be a legal son of Rhaegar rather than his bastard?
Is there any way, according to Westeros laws, that Rhaegar could have married Lyanna before giving birth?
No. Rhaegar already had a wife and I suspect bigamy is just as unacceptable in Westeros as it is outside of Utah and your neck of the woods.
hmm the Targaryens seem to ignore Westerosi customs, Aegon the Conqueror did marry BOTH his sisters.
Jesus, that guy is slow. They're waiting for GRR to finish a part of his next book to include in the paperback version of this one. It was supposed to be released in May. Then August. Now, it's for March 2013. :glare: :bleeding:
I'll have to revise my whole reading strategy. No more Star Wars Books post-Yavin to read, no more Song of Ice and Fire, well, I'll have to do something else of my spare time. Maybe I'll finish all those games I started.
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You're useless, Siege.
Quote from: Queequeg on August 23, 2012, 07:14:21 PM
You're useless, Siege.
Not at all. I was going through the thread thinking "needs Miley pics" and he saved the rest of us the trouble of googling and posting them. :thumbsup:
Could use a ban for that one <_<
Quote from: Tyr on June 13, 2011, 07:58:02 PM
Urban fantasy....I'm really not big on modern fantasy....Has just never done it for me in book form for some reason.
Though I should read more fantasy....
China Mieville is rather good. I imagine particularly so if you're a big city person.
Is he really?
Perdido Street Station was interesting world-building, but irritating and disappointing as far as an actual story. Were the subsequent stories in the setting any better?
Quote from: viper37 on August 23, 2012, 05:41:44 PM
Jesus, that guy is slow. They're waiting for GRR to finish a part of his next book to include in the paperback version of this one. It was supposed to be released in May. Then August. Now, it's for March 2013. :glare: :bleeding:
I'll have to revise my whole reading strategy. No more Star Wars Books post-Yavin to read, no more Song of Ice and Fire, well, I'll have to do something else of my spare time. Maybe I'll finish all those games I started.
I recommend The Baroque Cycle by Neal Stephenson.
Quote from: Scipio on August 25, 2012, 02:36:50 PM
Quote from: viper37 on August 23, 2012, 05:41:44 PM
Jesus, that guy is slow. They're waiting for GRR to finish a part of his next book to include in the paperback version of this one. It was supposed to be released in May. Then August. Now, it's for March 2013. :glare: :bleeding:
I'll have to revise my whole reading strategy. No more Star Wars Books post-Yavin to read, no more Song of Ice and Fire, well, I'll have to do something else of my spare time. Maybe I'll finish all those games I started.
I recommend The Baroque Cycle by Neal Stephenson.
I liked that, but liked his
Anathem even better.
I recommend Sanderson's Mistborn Trilogy.
For urban fantasy, try Rivers of London and The Dresden Files, both of which are written by reliable authors.
thanks for the suggestions. I'll take a look at that.