One of my student systematically avoid writing God in her work, using rather G-d. or even G-. Is this taboo usual, frequent in some denominations ?
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 15, 2009, 06:38:25 PM
One of my student systematically avoid writing God in her work, using rather G-d. or even G-. Is this taboo usual, frequent in some denominations ?
Orthodox Jews will not write the name of God in any language. peterlemonjello and Siegey do not on this board I beleive. Some Christian denominations who do not believe in replacement theology might not either.
I very rarely see this outside of Jews.
Only situation I've ever encountered it is among religious Jews, though not necessarily all Orthodox, in my experience.
From http://www.jewfaq.org/name.htm
QuoteNormally, we avoid writing the Name by substituting letters or syllables, for example, writing "G-d" instead of "God."
@ CM & Valmy: That's what I read, but I have / had reasons to doubt that particular student is Jewish.
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 15, 2009, 06:45:44 PM
@ CM & Valmy: That's what I read, but I have / had reasons to doubt that particular student is Jewish.
As I said some more obscure sect Christians who practice some usually only Jewish practices may do it also.
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 15, 2009, 06:45:44 PM
@ CM & Valmy: That's what I read, but I have / had reasons to doubt that particular student is Jewish.
Maybe it's got something to do in her family, i.e., parents taught her.
I'm pretty sure pete isn't an orthodox Jew, but I think alot of conservative Jews avoid it also. But anyway aside from Jews, I think Seventh-Day Adventists have the same aversions.
The whole thing is IMO patently absurd, since we all know the name of God isn't "God". It's like being afraid to call your boss by his name "boss".
Also, I don't think Jews consider it "evil", but avoid it because theoretically someone could take that written name and use it to defile God.
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 15, 2009, 06:45:44 PM
@ CM & Valmy: That's what I read, but I have / had reasons to doubt that particular student is Jewish.
Doing a little internet research, there seems to be at least one Christian who chooses to write it this way. From a comment on a blog post criticizing the God/G-d distinction:
QuotePsh you evidently are going to hell, no doubt about it. Yeah, im a christian, not a jew. i perfer G-d to God bc i have respect for my Creater, unlike you. I am not a religous psycho, i live my life to a higher standered than you, fact is, you couldnt handle it.
Just know that Jesus Loves you, there's only 1 G-d, and dont refer to the Creator of the breath you breaths "dong", its disgusting and immature.
but then again, i bet your too immature to care.
http://thecolonic.blogspot.com/2007/01/god-versus-g-d.html
Does it sound like your student's writing? :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2009, 06:48:11 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 15, 2009, 06:45:44 PM
@ CM & Valmy: That's what I read, but I have / had reasons to doubt that particular student is Jewish.
Maybe it's got something to do in her family, i.e., parents taught her.
Probably.
Incidentally, she's from Baltimore...
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 15, 2009, 06:50:00 PM
Does it sound like your student's writing? :P
:bleeding:
Fortunately no. She's a bright student.
Quote from: garbon on April 15, 2009, 06:43:58 PM
From http://www.jewfaq.org/name.htm
QuoteNormally, we avoid writing the Name by substituting letters or syllables, for example, writing "G-d" instead of "God."
So to avoid writing God they write G-d, removing the vowel, how it would be written in Hebrew? Strikes me as somewhat odd.
And aren't there a number of names God in Judaism?mes for
:lol: Good point Spellus, but moot since they'd never write the name of God in Hebrew anyway, which by the way is YHWH.
Quote from: Queequeg on April 15, 2009, 06:52:45 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 15, 2009, 06:43:58 PM
From http://www.jewfaq.org/name.htm
QuoteNormally, we avoid writing the Name by substituting letters or syllables, for example, writing "G-d" instead of "God."
So to avoid writing God they write G-d, removing the vowel, how it would be written in Hebrew? Strikes me as somewhat odd.
And aren't there a number of names God in Judaism?mes for
You have a heart attack and slump over on the keyboard or something? :huh:
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 15, 2009, 06:50:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2009, 06:48:11 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 15, 2009, 06:45:44 PM
@ CM & Valmy: That's what I read, but I have / had reasons to doubt that particular student is Jewish.
Maybe it's got something to do in her family, i.e., parents taught her.
Probably.
Incidentally, she's from Baltimore...
Probably Catholic upbringing. Severely Catholic.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 15, 2009, 06:54:15 PMYou have a heart attack and slump over on the keyboard or something? :huh:
I noticed that as well but assumed he was in the middle of a revision and posted by mistake. :lol:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2009, 06:54:40 PMProbably Catholic upbringing. Severely Catholic.
:huh: I have NEVER heard Catholics avoiding God's name. In fact, with all their repetition of novenas, hailing Mary, and such they're like the opposite of Jews in this respect.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 15, 2009, 06:50:00 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 15, 2009, 06:45:44 PM
@ CM & Valmy: That's what I read, but I have / had reasons to doubt that particular student is Jewish.
Doing a little internet research, there seems to be at least one Christian who chooses to write it this way. From a comment on a blog post criticizing the God/G-d distinction:
QuotePsh you evidently are going to hell, no doubt about it. Yeah, im a christian, not a jew. i perfer G-d to God bc i have respect for my Creater, unlike you. I am not a religous psycho, i live my life to a higher standered than you, fact is, you couldnt handle it.
Just know that Jesus Loves you, there's only 1 G-d, and dont refer to the Creator of the breath you breaths "dong", its disgusting and immature.
but then again, i bet your too immature to care.
http://thecolonic.blogspot.com/2007/01/god-versus-g-d.html
Does it sound like your student's writing? :P
I was going to say, this is a behavior I've seen adopted by many wacky internet Christians. I suspect they got it from Jews, but their reasons for the behavior are considerably less coherent.
Quote from: Caliga on April 15, 2009, 06:56:27 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2009, 06:54:40 PMProbably Catholic upbringing. Severely Catholic.
:huh: I have NEVER heard Catholics avoiding God's name. In fact, with all their repetition of novenas, hailing Mary, and such they're like the opposite of Jews in this respect.
Nobody said they weren't psycho Catholics. Who the h-ll knows.
Maybe she's doing it because she thinks you are jewish.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 15, 2009, 06:54:15 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on April 15, 2009, 06:52:45 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 15, 2009, 06:43:58 PM
From http://www.jewfaq.org/name.htm
QuoteNormally, we avoid writing the Name by substituting letters or syllables, for example, writing "G-d" instead of "God."
So to avoid writing God they write G-d, removing the vowel, how it would be written in Hebrew? Strikes me as somewhat odd.
And aren't there a number of names God in Judaism?mes for
You have a heart attack and slump over on the keyboard or something? :huh:
I'm on a long train ride and posting from my phone. Sometimes when a go backwards in text while writing instead of allowing me to go back to where I left off it keeps trying to dinish the word I was typing, oddly enough not allowing me to go forward and fix it as every scroll foward results in an auto fix. Spent 10 minutes trying to fix it, annoying as fuckall.
Maybe she wants your cock. :)
'God' isn't even a proper noun. They might be respecting their 'creater', but they're disrespecting their language.
Quote from: Caliga on April 15, 2009, 07:00:32 PM
Maybe she wants your cock. :)
Or instead of wanting to fuck you, maybe she's just doing it to fuck with you. :)
Quote from: Caliga on April 15, 2009, 06:53:55 PM
:lol: Good point Spellus, but moot since they'd never write the name of God in Hebrew anyway, which by the way is YHWH.
Robert Graves argued that YHWH was just a substitute for the real hidden name.
which was drawn from the vocal vibrations that animate the entire universe.
in other words, vowels.
thus, AEOUI
:bowler:
I think there is speculation that in very ancient Hebrew God was known as Ioa or Ia, which amuses me.
Ia! Ia! :cthulu:
P.S. kat fails at spelling Cthulhu. :mad:
God is a job description.
...which is why it amuses me when people consider "God damn it!" to be "taking the Lord's name in vain".
S-r-ly, y-- c-n s-- h-r pr-bl-m. V-w-lls -r- -v-l.
Quote from: PDH on April 16, 2009, 07:59:44 AM
S-r-ly, y-- c-n s-- h-r pr-bl-m. V-w-lls -r- -v-l.
AF is short of water.
Makes no logical sense to me, as the real "name" of God in Judaism is unknown. However, lots of things in Judaism make no sense - it "makes sense" in a symbolic manner; it is an allusion to the notion (very ancient in many cultures and not confined to gods) that the ultimate gesture of respect towards someone or something is to make its very name taboo - as names have power and naming something is, in a way, to exercise power over it. The result is that, eventually, a new discriptor is used (the vowel-less "YWHW" becomes "Elohim" or Lord or God); the new discriptor becomes taboo in its turn ("God" becomes "G-d"). And so on.
Quote from: PDH on April 16, 2009, 07:59:44 AM
S-r-ly, y-- c-n s-- h-r pr-bl-m. V-w-lls -r- -v-l.
I understood that easily. The ability of the human mind to read patterns is amazing.
I am now motivated to study Evil Science.
From which game your avatar is, CdM?
"All I said was this fish is good enough for Jehovah!"
Very strange, I've not heard of this. And here I thought God was being respectful- as opposed to Jehova or god.
Quote
Robert Graves argued that YHWH was just a substitute for the real hidden name.
which was drawn from the vocal vibrations that animate the entire universe.
in other words, vowels.
thus, AEOUI
:bowler:
OMFG! :O
God is....a Frenchman!
She is just setting you up for the day she can't hand in an assignment on time for "religious reasons".
Fail her for being a retard. That's what I'd do.
Quote from: Martinus on April 16, 2009, 10:25:50 AM
Fail her for being a retard. That's what I'd do.
That's awfully religious of you, Marty.
She'd be passing but she refused to write out GOD. I can't have that, no sir.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2009, 06:54:40 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 15, 2009, 06:50:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2009, 06:48:11 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 15, 2009, 06:45:44 PM
@ CM & Valmy: That's what I read, but I have / had reasons to doubt that particular student is Jewish.
Maybe it's got something to do in her family, i.e., parents taught her.
Probably.
Incidentally, she's from Baltimore...
Probably Catholic upbringing. Severely Catholic.
I don't think the whole "G-d" idiocy is espoused by the Catholic Church.
Chances are she is a retard/teenager (yes, I realize the distinction is redundant) and thinks it somehow makes her special and unique, so she adopts some retarded idea that is not strictly commanded to her creed.
Quote from: garbon on April 16, 2009, 10:28:24 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 16, 2009, 10:25:50 AM
Fail her for being a retard. That's what I'd do.
That's awfully religious of you, Marty.
She'd be passing but she refused to write out GOD. I can't have that, no sir.
What if she "refuses" to write "their" and instead writes "there"? It's a fucking typo - if a student does not know proper spelling of words, she should be failed.
Incidentally, if someone has a respect for their dog, do they write "d_g"?
Quote from: Martinus on April 16, 2009, 10:33:47 AM
Incidentally, if someone has a respect for their dog, do they write "d_g"?
Can I call you M_rtinus from now on?
Quote from: Martinus on April 16, 2009, 10:33:47 AM
Incidentally, if someone has a respect for their dog, do they write "d_g"?
No. But they might write 'Sp_t'.
The problem is that assorted idiots think that 'god' is the actual name of their deity.
Quote from: Valmy on April 16, 2009, 10:34:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 16, 2009, 10:33:47 AM
Incidentally, if someone has a respect for their dog, do they write "d_g"?
Can I call you M_rtinus from now on?
Can I call you Susan?
Quote from: Martinus on April 16, 2009, 10:37:00 AM
Can I call you Susan?
Can't you at least make it S_san?
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2009, 10:36:15 AMNo. But they might write 'Sp_t'.
The problem is that assorted idiots think that 'god' is the actual name of their deity.
I tried to explain this to a negress at a former workplace and she got extremely offended. :(
Quote from: Martinus on April 16, 2009, 10:25:50 AM
Fail her for being a retard. That's what I'd do.
Racidistic :mad:
Quote from: Caliga on April 16, 2009, 10:43:38 AM
I tried to explain this to a negress at a former workplace and she got extremely offended. :(
It is amazing how ignorant Christians are of the Bible sometimes.
'I believe the Bible is the literal word of God.'
'Oh have you read it?'
'Well...no...it is so very long...'
Quote from: Caliga on April 16, 2009, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2009, 10:36:15 AMNo. But they might write 'Sp_t'.
The problem is that assorted idiots think that 'god' is the actual name of their deity.
I tried to explain this to a negress at a former workplace and she got extremely offended. :(
It is sort of like where the word originally used not to give offense ends up, in turn, being offensive, and is replaced with another term.
Quote from: Malthus on April 16, 2009, 10:49:01 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 16, 2009, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2009, 10:36:15 AMNo. But they might write 'Sp_t'.
The problem is that assorted idiots think that 'god' is the actual name of their deity.
I tried to explain this to a negress at a former workplace and she got extremely offended. :(
It is sort of like where the word originally used not to give offense ends up, in turn, being offensive, and is replaced with another term.
Exactly.
Ioa -> YHWH -> "I am who I am" -> Elohim -> Jehovah -> God -> Jiminy Cricket :)
Quote from: Caliga on April 16, 2009, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 16, 2009, 10:36:15 AMNo. But they might write 'Sp_t'.
The problem is that assorted idiots think that 'god' is the actual name of their deity.
I tried to explain this to a negress at a former workplace and she got extremely offended. :(
To be fair, most black churches aren't big on theology. It's all hymns and 'GOD DAMN AMERICA!'.
I went to her wedding there, it was awesome. Toward the end of the vows, the minister started to shout them and the bride/groom answered in unison with the audience. At the end when the groom kisses the bride he like bent her over backwards and they were literally sucking face something fierce. All the ladies in the church shouted "uhhhhhhh-huhhhhh, you go girl!" and started cheering. Then they like danced out of the church, and we went to a banquet hall down the street and had fried chicken and ribs. A good time was had by all. :cool:
:mmm: Ribs
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 16, 2009, 11:25:19 AM
:mmm: Ribs
They were spicy too, IIRC. No wuss rubs for these folk :)
Oh, I forgot about the part where we arrived at the banquet hall and were four honkies in a crowd of 300, and felt uneasy.
Quote from: Martinus on April 16, 2009, 10:33:19 AM
What if she "refuses" to write "their" and instead writes "there"? It's a fucking typo - if a student does not know proper spelling of words, she should be failed.
But she knows how it is spelled...
Quote from: Caliga on April 16, 2009, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 16, 2009, 11:25:19 AM
:mmm: Ribs
Oh, I forgot about the part where we arrived at the banquet hall and were four honkies in a crowd of 300, and felt uneasy.
You were worried there would not be enough Ribs to go around?
Quote from: Oexmelin on April 15, 2009, 06:38:25 PM
One of my student systematically avoid writing God in her work, using rather G-d. or even G-. Is this taboo usual, frequent in some denominations ?
Fail the student. Is she fucking 8 years old? Grownups spell correctly. Jesus.
Quote from: The Brain on April 16, 2009, 12:03:07 PM
Fail the student. Is she fucking 8 years old? Grownups spell correctly. Jesus.
Okay, Marty.
Quote from: garbon on April 16, 2009, 12:04:26 PM
Quote from: The Brain on April 16, 2009, 12:03:07 PM
Fail the student. Is she fucking 8 years old? Grownups spell correctly. Jesus.
Okay, Marty.
Even a fag is right twice a day.
Quote from: garbon on April 16, 2009, 12:04:26 PM
Quote from: The Brain on April 16, 2009, 12:03:07 PM
Fail the student. Is she fucking 8 years old? Grownups spell correctly. Jesus.
Okay, Marty.
:rolleyes: He clearly signed it "Jesus" not Marty.