I'm looking into buying a rowing machine. What manufacturers/types would you people recommend?
Kettler Kadet Outrigger.
http://www.amazon.com/Kettler-Kadett-Outrigger-Rowing-Machine/dp/B0008G2V76
Stainless. German. Effective.
Thanks. I have been told however that a rowing machine which does not utilize rope-style rows is inferior because it puts too much pressure on your joints. True/false?
Are gyms in Poland so underequipped that they don't have rowing machines or what? :P
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2011, 04:11:15 AM
Thanks. I have been told however that a rowing machine which does not utilize rope-style rows is inferior because it puts too much pressure on your joints. True/false?
Sounds false.
You want an outrigger model that will utilize the full range of motion for your shoulders, unlike rope models that simply turn into horizontal lat pulls, and you wind up with overdeveloped thick lats, and not the sexy cool V shaped lats. You want buff shoulders, don't you?
Get an exercise bike instead, when you inevitably get bored of it they make for much better places to hang clothes.
Assuming money's no object, a WaterRower would fit best with your style and aspirations. The wooden models look lovely and you can get them via Amazon:
http://www.waterrower.co.uk/ (http://www.waterrower.co.uk/)
However, the Concept 2 flywheel design is the benchmark of professional rowers and is installed in most quality gyms:
http://concept2.co.uk/
And yes, you want a chain/rope style pull. The hydraulic ones change pressure as they heat up during use.
Silence, harlot!
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 11, 2011, 05:16:00 AM
Silence, harlot!
The Concept 2 is used by the British gold medal-winning team. Maybe the Winkelvosses concentrate too much on their pretty lats.
Quote from: Tyr on April 11, 2011, 04:31:15 AM
Get an exercise bike instead, when you inevitably get bored of it they make for much better places to hang clothes.
This.
Good advice, but he already has a bicycle that presumably will be shortly taking over those duties. :hmm:
Thanks everybody who has given a relevant advice (i.e. CdM and Brazen).
All you tards who recommend a bike - go fuck yourself you pieces of shit. I want to work on my shoulders, back, biceps and (moderately) abdomen, so your retarded hippy advice is useless.
Why is Languish so full of know-it-all idiots who can't give the specific advice you ask them for?
Quote from: The Larch on April 11, 2011, 04:12:29 AM
Are gyms in Poland so underequipped that they don't have rowing machines or what? :P
I don't have time to go to a gym.
Now that the serious part of the thread is over,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbsSeVr5NSI
You'll like that.
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2011, 07:04:40 AM
Quote from: The Larch on April 11, 2011, 04:12:29 AM
Are gyms in Poland so underequipped that they don't have rowing machines or what? :P
I don't have time to go to a gym.
If you don't have time for a gym then I doubt that you'll have time to exercise properly at home either. In that situation I'd take the Malthus route and hire a personal trainer to make the most of your exercise time at home instead of buying expensive equipment.
Quote from: The Larch on April 11, 2011, 07:16:26 AM
hire a personal trainer to make the most of your exercise time at home
:perv:
Quote from: The Larch on April 11, 2011, 04:12:29 AM
Are gyms in Poland so underequipped that they don't have rowing machines or what? :P
Sometimes fat people get embarrassed going to the gym.
I recommend the rope pull models, although I don't have a specific brand to recommend.
Quote from: Brazen on April 11, 2011, 04:51:27 AM
Assuming money's no object, a WaterRower would fit best with your style and aspirations. The wooden models look lovely and you can get them via Amazon:
http://www.waterrower.co.uk/ (http://www.waterrower.co.uk/)
However, the Concept 2 flywheel design is the benchmark of professional rowers and is installed in most quality gyms:
http://concept2.co.uk/
And yes, you want a chain/rope style pull. The hydraulic ones change pressure as they heat up during use.
The water rower ones look good but are rather pricy (about 150% of what I had in mind, price wise). Any cheaper recommendations?
Quote from: The Larch on April 11, 2011, 07:16:26 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2011, 07:04:40 AM
Quote from: The Larch on April 11, 2011, 04:12:29 AM
Are gyms in Poland so underequipped that they don't have rowing machines or what? :P
I don't have time to go to a gym.
If you don't have time for a gym then I doubt that you'll have time to exercise properly at home either. In that situation I'd take the Malthus route and hire a personal trainer to make the most of your exercise time at home instead of buying expensive equipment.
That's nonsense. Training for 30 minutes at home is something completely different than training for 30 minutes at a gym (which involves spending about 90 minutes in total on stuff like travel, showering etc.). Plus I can hop on the machine any time whereas I just dont have energy to go to a gym so often. And gym membership costs cash.
I want to buy a fucking rowing machine, not get personal advice from people who do not appear to be the example of fitness, thank you very much.
3 month after you buy it. It won't get any use. If you had a basement, it's where it would end up, covered in dust & clothes.
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2011, 08:06:06 AM
The water rower ones look good but are rather pricy (about 150% of what I had in mind, price wise). Any cheaper recommendations?
York, and as Seedy says, Kettler.
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2011, 08:09:07 AM
And gym membership costs cash.
Not much though. If you bought a gym membership, you'd have an excuse to spend less on chokers from the Pre-Teen Girl Collection.
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2011, 08:09:07 AM
Quote from: The Larch on April 11, 2011, 07:16:26 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2011, 07:04:40 AM
Quote from: The Larch on April 11, 2011, 04:12:29 AM
Are gyms in Poland so underequipped that they don't have rowing machines or what? :P
I don't have time to go to a gym.
If you don't have time for a gym then I doubt that you'll have time to exercise properly at home either. In that situation I'd take the Malthus route and hire a personal trainer to make the most of your exercise time at home instead of buying expensive equipment.
That's nonsense. Training for 30 minutes at home is something completely different than training for 30 minutes at a gym (which involves spending about 90 minutes in total on stuff like travel, showering etc.). Plus I can hop on the machine any time whereas I just dont have energy to go to a gym so often. And gym membership costs cash.
I want to buy a fucking rowing machine, not get personal advice from people who do not appear to be the example of fitness, thank you very much.
Exercising at home requires a good amount of self-discipline and motivation, if you think you have them then go ahead, but if you say that you don't have the time and energy to go to a gym then I seriously doubt that you'll have the commitment necessary to do proper exercise at home and you'll end up wasting your money. I'm puzzled at your reference to gym fees, as if a rowing machine would come cheaply.
I make a honest question, do you think that buying that rowing machine is going to be really effective for your fitness? I sincerely doubt it, but it's your money and your time.
Martinus, isn't your apartment really tiny? Do you really have the space for such a big thing to hang your clothes on?
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2011, 08:09:07 AM
That's nonsense. Training for 30 minutes at home is something completely different than training for 30 minutes at a gym (which involves spending about 90 minutes in total on stuff like travel, showering etc.). Plus I can hop on the machine any time whereas I just dont have energy to go to a gym so often. And gym membership costs cash.
You don't shower if you work out at home? :unsure:
In my two most recent apartments, a gym was across the street from home, at my work, and/or a block from work. :cool:
Quote from: garbon on April 11, 2011, 09:12:34 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2011, 08:09:07 AM
That's nonsense. Training for 30 minutes at home is something completely different than training for 30 minutes at a gym (which involves spending about 90 minutes in total on stuff like travel, showering etc.). Plus I can hop on the machine any time whereas I just dont have energy to go to a gym so often. And gym membership costs cash.
You don't shower if you work out at home? :unsure:
In my two most recent apartments, a gym was across the street from home, at my work, and/or a block from work. :cool:
People tend to be wary of rooms labeled "communal showers" in Poland for some reason.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 11, 2011, 09:25:29 AM
People tend to be wary of rooms labeled "communal showers" in Poland for some reason.
:pinch:
Quote from: DGuller on April 11, 2011, 08:53:00 AM
Martinus, isn't your apartment really tiny? Do you really have the space for such a big thing to hang your clothes on?
Well, I recently bought a two bedroom, app. 100 sq. metres flat, where I plan to move in about 6 months or so, so that won't be a problem for long.
Quote from: The Larch on April 11, 2011, 08:35:26 AM
Exercising at home requires a good amount of self-discipline and motivation,
Exercising at home requires less motivation than exercising at the gym. Though I'd advise starting off with jogging and aerobics before sinking cash into expensive equipment if one is starting from a sedentary lifestyle. Once you know you'll get your money's worth, go for it.
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2011, 02:48:56 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 11, 2011, 08:53:00 AM
Martinus, isn't your apartment really tiny? Do you really have the space for such a big thing to hang your clothes on?
Well, I recently bought a two bedroom, app. 100 sq. metres flat, where I plan to move in about 6 months or so, so that won't be a problem for long.
Nice. You finally pulled the trigger on that one. Is it the one right off some cool plaza?
Yeah, seconding the thumbs down on the hydraulic rowers. I ended up just throwing mine away when we moved, as I didn't like it, and didn't want to inflict it on anyone else.
Quote from: Brazen on April 11, 2011, 05:25:28 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 11, 2011, 05:16:00 AM
Silence, harlot!
The Concept 2 is used by the British gold medal-winning team. Maybe the Winkelvosses concentrate too much on their pretty lats.
You're going to have us believe that Marty is caring more about strength than a pretty physique? :yeahright:
I have not owned a rowing machine, but the hydraulic ones appear like they would better simulate being on a slave galley.
Get a Concept2. I've never seen a rowing club that didn't have them.
And learn how to properly use it.
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 11, 2011, 07:26:14 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2011, 02:48:56 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 11, 2011, 08:53:00 AM
Martinus, isn't your apartment really tiny? Do you really have the space for such a big thing to hang your clothes on?
Well, I recently bought a two bedroom, app. 100 sq. metres flat, where I plan to move in about 6 months or so, so that won't be a problem for long.
Nice. You finally pulled the trigger on that one. Is it the one right off some cool plaza?
The new one is about 200 metres from where I live but it is not right next to a plaza/street, but the windows go out into some sort of a private park/garden greenery so it is much quieter. I am keeping the old flat though as it may be useful to have.
Will the rent pay for the mortgage?
Hydraulics are fine as long as you take care of them.
Exercising at home is all well and good, but then how will you pick up randoms?