Games nerds to me!
Do you know any military games that are based on real military sims? Likewise do you know any games where aspects have been incorporated into military sims as they're more realistic that the armed services can manage?
I've read about several in the past and can't remember a single one :(
Yes it's for work.
No, I can't pay you.
Americas Army has done this a bit hasn't it?
Sure there were some flight sims way back when too...
Think I've got the key one - Operation Flashpoint was used in military simulator VBS 1 and 2.
Quote from: Brazen on April 06, 2011, 09:22:25 AM
Think I've got the key one - Operation Flashpoint was used in military simulator VBS 1 and 2.
That was my first thought. An extremely frustrating game. Spend half an hour walking to a truck, getting shipped out on patrol, spend another 15 minutes walking around only to get shot by a sniper without even getting your safety off. :lol:
Check out Operation Flashpoint. Only FPS I've ever really gotten into.
*EDIT* Ah, already mentioned.
Quote from: Slargos on April 06, 2011, 09:24:38 AM
That was my first thought. An extremely frustrating game. Spend half an hour walking to a truck, getting shipped out on patrol, spend another 15 minutes walking around only to get shot by a sniper without even getting your safety off. :lol:
Glorious game. Still remember when I manged to put an RPG into a Hind's rotor blades as it was descending to land.
Anyway, this is what my question was apropos of. Download and play test a new submarine sim game for DARPA. Let me know what you think.
https://actuv.darpa.mil/ (https://actuv.darpa.mil/)
Steel Beasts.
TacOps and Conquest of the Aegean have been used in training, or at least there have been news stories about it. I don't know if it's because they're "more realistic", exactly.
Full Spectrum Warrior was developed alongside of some kind of military training game. Eagle Dynamics (who made Lock On and A10) and Sonalyst (Dangerous Waters) supposedly do military work as well, using stuff from their game engines.
I knew you guys would come up trumps, thanks :hug:
I vaguely recall reading something about how the old consim Gulf Strike by VG was used by the Pentagon in planning Desert Shield/Storm. :hmm:
http://www.hpssims.com/Pages/products/DA/decisive_action.html
and
http://www.hpssims.com/Pages/products/POA2/POA2b.html
Long time ago but wasnt Harpoon, or some version thereof used?
edit: Wiki says my memory may be faulty - it was designed by a former naval officer. No mention in wiki about it being used in training.
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 06, 2011, 11:14:13 AM
Long time ago but wasnt Harpoon, or some version thereof used?
The USN looked at it, but realized it had nothing in common with actual warfare at sea, and developed its own game, SimTac. Alas, the latter was classified because such a huge element of war at sea is EW and that involves lots of sensitive intel.
Quote from: Brazen on April 06, 2011, 10:14:29 AM
Anyway, this is what my question was apropos of. Download and play test a new submarine sim game for DARPA. Let me know what you think.
https://actuv.darpa.mil/ (https://actuv.darpa.mil/)
This is an interesting concept. I know that heuristic modelling of sub and ASW tactics was starting to be a big thing fifteen years ago, but didn't see this coming.
Also interesting to see where the stealth surface ship concept has gone. We didn't consider an unmanned version when I was on the project.
I believe a British flight sim firm, perhaps the guys that did Tornado and EF2000, did high-level military simulation that the games were in fact based on (though with the more sensitive avionics and performance modelling stripped out).
Quote from: Brazen on April 06, 2011, 09:16:11 AM
Do you know any military games that are based on real military sims? Likewise do you know any games where aspects have been incorporated into military sims as they're more realistic that the armed services can manage?
BCT Commander, loosely based on the US Army's JANUS engine. Real-time combined arms simulation.
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ProSIM/BCT/BCT_page.html
ProSIM makes quite a few of these civilian-grade simulators based on mil-spec software.
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Our_Games/Our_Games.html
Yer welcome.
Quote from: grumbler on April 06, 2011, 11:27:18 AM
Quote from: Brazen on April 06, 2011, 10:14:29 AM
Anyway, this is what my question was apropos of. Download and play test a new submarine sim game for DARPA. Let me know what you think.
https://actuv.darpa.mil/ (https://actuv.darpa.mil/)
This is an interesting concept. I know that heuristic modelling of sub and ASW tactics was starting to be a big thing fifteen years ago, but didn't see this coming.
Also interesting to see where the stealth surface ship concept has gone. We didn't consider an unmanned version when I was on the project.
Dangerous Waters by Sonalysts was a fantastic open-source model by a game company created by people who left the defense industry to make games. Fucking 3 credit course required for fucking plotting the TMA. And never mind the sonar broadband, narrowband and SSA.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 06, 2011, 05:38:45 PM
Dangerous Waters by Sonalysts was a fantastic open-source model by a game company created by people who left the defense industry to make games. Fucking 3 credit course required for fucking plotting the TMA. And never mind the sonar broadband, narrowband and SSA.
Sonalysts is a defense contractor. Worked with them for years. They were the best in the business at modeling sonar equipment and underwater acoustics. They were crap for tactics and strategy, but that's where my company came in. Dangerous Waters was just a model of theirs without any of the classified values.
Quote from: grumbler on April 06, 2011, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 06, 2011, 05:38:45 PM
Dangerous Waters by Sonalysts was a fantastic open-source model by a game company created by people who left the defense industry to make games. Fucking 3 credit course required for fucking plotting the TMA. And never mind the sonar broadband, narrowband and SSA.
Sonalysts is a defense contractor. Worked with them for years. They were the best in the business at modeling sonar equipment and underwater acoustics. They were crap for tactics and strategy, but that's where my company came in. Dangerous Waters was just a model of theirs without any of the classified values.
It was serious fun, though. I particularly enjoyed splashing the P-3.
Quote from: Brazen on April 06, 2011, 09:16:11 AM
Games nerds to me!
Do you know any military games that are based on real military sims? Likewise do you know any games where aspects have been incorporated into military sims as they're more realistic that the armed services can manage?
I've read about several in the past and can't remember a single one :(
Yes it's for work.
No, I can't pay you.
Oh, you can pay.
What's your body weight and height?
Quote from: Siege on April 07, 2011, 01:17:46 AM
Oh, you can pay.
What's your body weight and height?
I'm 50% too heavy, 20% too tall and 60% too old for you. I could put you across my knee and break you like a twig.
Quote from: Brazen on April 07, 2011, 03:06:16 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 07, 2011, 01:17:46 AM
Oh, you can pay.
What's your body weight and height?
I'm 50% too heavy, 20% too tall and 60% too old for you. I could put you across my knee and break you like a twig.
I'll pay you if you do.
Quote from: katmai on April 07, 2011, 04:52:07 AM
Quote from: Brazen on April 07, 2011, 03:06:16 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 07, 2011, 01:17:46 AM
Oh, you can pay.
What's your body weight and height?
I'm 50% too heavy, 20% too tall and 60% too old for you. I could put you across my knee and break you like a twig.
I'll pay you if you do.
I'll double that.
I'd toss in a few bucks.
Here's a farthing. :)
Quote from: Brazen on April 06, 2011, 09:16:11 AM
Games nerds to me!
Do you know any military games that are based on real military sims? Likewise do you know any games where aspects have been incorporated into military sims as they're more realistic that the armed services can manage?
I've read about several in the past and can't remember a single one :(
Yes it's for work.
No, I can't pay you.
I know its not strictly relevant, but you could add a bit of padding to the item, by mentioning HGW's Little Wars being based the german thing, Kreigsmeir (whatever, you guys know what I mean)
Quote from: Brazen on April 07, 2011, 03:06:16 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 07, 2011, 01:17:46 AM
Oh, you can pay.
What's your body weight and height?
I'm 50% too heavy, 20% too tall and 60% too old for you. I could put you across my knee and break you like a twig.
You cannot suck my twig, babe. No matter how hard you try.
I am unsuckable. I dare you to try.
They have pills for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67isFmH5vQ8
Siege is the guy on the left.
Quote from: Maximus on April 07, 2011, 09:27:17 PM
They have pills for that.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 08, 2011, 07:20:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67isFmH5vQ8
Siege is the guy on the left.
:lol:
I'm not in the fucking marines.
Obviously. Nor any other kind of marines.
Quote from: Maximus on April 08, 2011, 10:27:37 PM
Obviously. Nor any other kind of marines.
National Guard is wannabe Army, and Army is wannabe Marines. So, in a sense, Siege is a kind of Marine (the wannabe kind).