:hmm:
World map of The Penis Size World (http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073)
Helloooooo Hungary!
Quote from: Brazen on April 04, 2011, 06:18:52 AM
Helloooooo Hungary!
No longer impressive--those measurements were taken before Trianon.
Quote from: Brazen on April 04, 2011, 06:18:52 AM
Helloooooo Hungary!
I was thinking a trip to South America was in the offing, but I certainly wouldn't mind a romp through Eastern Europe. :D
Have some holiday time to burn, B? :perv:
:Embarrass:
:cool:
3rd time's a charm?
Something seems off about those numbers. Look down and for Belgium it says 15.85 cm, 6.4 inches. For Brazil, 16.1 cm or 6.2 inches. :huh:
At a certain point, are some things just too small to work? Should we worry that this is the last generation of South Koreans? Tim, you can make this situation work for you.
Posted ages ago and rubbished.
The source numbers come from a huge variety of places. The Chinese ones IIRC are from the 1930s.
Times were very rough, people didn't have large penises back then.
Checking through my old emails from back when I first found this at the end of last year (albeit not in map form, that has only been around a few months) I've found the purported sources:
http://everyoneweb.com/WA/DataFilesworldpenissize/list3d.GIF
China is from the 50s, remembered wrong.
I'm sure I remember Korea being from before the two were divided.
14.38 in Israel?
Bullshit.
What the fuck, egyptians and lebanessi have their dicks longer than ours?
Bullshit. There is no fucking way we have the smallest dicks in the Middle East!!!!1111
Quote from: Siege on April 04, 2011, 10:36:04 AM
What the fuck, egyptians and lebanessi have their dicks longer than ours?
Bullshit. There is no fucking way we have the smallest dicks in the Middle East!!!!1111
The tiny-dicked need to work harder, which would explain why you are able to kick their asses so consistently. They're all busy pleasing their wives while they should be practicing at War. :hmm:
Quote from: Tyr on April 04, 2011, 07:46:09 AM
Checking through my old emails from back when I first found this at the end of last year (albeit not in map form, that has only been around a few months) I've found the purported sources:
http://everyoneweb.com/WA/DataFilesworldpenissize/list3d.GIF
China is from the 50s, remembered wrong.
I'm sure I remember Korea being from before the two were divided.
What a peculiar amalgam of sources. Not exactly clinical.
I always knew the biggest dicks in Europe were in the east.
Quote from: Siege on April 04, 2011, 10:34:26 AM
14.38 in Israel?
Bullshit.
That's before circumscision.
What about Kazakhstan?
Quote from: Slargos on April 04, 2011, 10:37:21 AM
They're all busy pleasing their wives
:huh:
These are Arabs you're talking about...
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 04, 2011, 01:53:59 PM
Quote from: Slargos on April 04, 2011, 10:37:21 AM
They're all busy pleasing their wives
:huh:
These are Arabs you're talking about...
I thumb my nose at you, sir. :P
I am big in Japan.
Information needed on vagina size.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2011, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: Tyr on April 04, 2011, 07:46:09 AM
Checking through my old emails from back when I first found this at the end of last year (albeit not in map form, that has only been around a few months) I've found the purported sources:
http://everyoneweb.com/WA/DataFilesworldpenissize/list3d.GIF
China is from the 50s, remembered wrong.
I'm sure I remember Korea being from before the two were divided.
What a peculiar amalgam of sources. Not exactly clinical.
Whats worse I remember looking into some of those sources and finding no mention of penis size whatsoever. It is pretty much just rubbish.
Obviously, Jaron is bringing the US average way down.
Where is Jaron these days anyway? Haven't seen that boy for awhile.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on April 04, 2011, 05:22:42 PM
Where is Jaron these days anyway? Haven't seen that boy for awhile.
Taking enlargement pills, according to Dps.
Quote from: alfred russel on April 04, 2011, 06:38:48 AM
At a certain point, are some things just too small to work? Should we worry that this is the last generation of South Koreans? Tim, you can make this situation work for you.
Anecdotal info from Western girls indicates it remains true.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2011, 02:49:18 PM
Information needed on vagina size.
Ditto. You're single-- get out there & then report back to us.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on April 04, 2011, 05:22:42 PM
Where is Jaron these days anyway? Haven't seen that boy for awhile.
Busy following the crops.
Thank god for Asians. I can feel secure again.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 04, 2011, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: katmai on April 04, 2011, 08:18:55 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on April 04, 2011, 05:22:42 PM
Where is Jaron these days anyway? Haven't seen that boy for awhile.
Busy following the crops.
Racist! :lol:
He'd rather i give that answer than the real one :ph34r:
Nah, nothing that exciting.
Seems I'm an above average German.
Come to think of it, J is probably between jobs, on welfare, and thus can't afford internet. :hmm:
:lol: nope not it
He's getting married. Or at least laid.
And you thought Jaron joining the USMC was unlikely. :P
Quote from: katmai on April 05, 2011, 07:47:01 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 05, 2011, 07:44:49 AM
He's getting married. Or at least laid.
:ph34r:
I am Mentok the Mind-Taker!
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.birdman.lastvigilante.com%2Fimages%2Fmentok1.jpg&hash=57814251b3270d325b395c9143f18d8745346e71)
The odds of Jaron doing anything requiring such discipline as the marine corps vs finding a someone to love him?
I mean if lettow and Ed and caliga can find a partner anything is possible!
:mad:
Please, I didn't work at it. Wave a stack of bills around and be able to get chicks off. They flock to you.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 05, 2011, 07:55:53 AM
Please, I didn't work at it. Wave a stack of bills around and be able to get chicks off. They flock to you.
I didn't say you worked at it, just you got one. :P
Is it just me, or do all those average sizes seem kind of small? :unsure:
Quote from: Barrister on April 05, 2011, 08:56:47 AM
Is it just me, or do all those average sizes seem kind of small? :unsure:
Says the guy whose son looks like Ron Jeremy.
A little bit above 5 inches is the average. To most girls, average cocks look already bigger than we see it from a bird's view. Size doesn't really matter, girth does. In fact, size is detrimental because, to most women, having their cervix bumped and plowed onto isn't a pleasant experience.
Porn is a show, it's fiction. You don't see the girl running to the bathroom between cuts to pee repeatedly because the "big cock" rams her cervix for hours. Plus, porn just like cosmetic ads are made in such a way to make the consumer feel inferior that he or she really is.
Quote from: Drakken on April 05, 2011, 09:09:27 AM
A little bit above 5 inches is the average. To most girls, average cocks look already bigger than we see it from a bird's view. Size doesn't really matter, girth does. In fact, size is detrimental because, to most women, having their cervix bumped and plowed onto isn't a pleasant experience.
Porn is a show, it's fiction. You don't see the girl running to the bathroom between cuts to pee repeatedly because the "big cock" rams her cervix for hours. Plus, porn just like cosmetic ads are made in such a way to make the consumer feel inferior that he or she really is.
So you're saying male porn actors are
tools for businesses that supply "penis growth enlargment?" :P
I've not heard 5 inches as average, 6 or 7 is what I always heard.
Quote from: Siege on April 04, 2011, 03:44:59 PM
Quote from: Norgy on April 04, 2011, 02:26:17 PM
I am big in Japan.
She lied to you.
I meant Japan the country. Not the stripper. Or underage schoolgirl of your fantasies.
Quote from: Tyr on April 05, 2011, 09:31:30 AM
I've not heard 5 inches as average, 6 or 7 is what I always heard.
7 inches is way above average. 6 inches is a above average. :huh:
Most people wrongly measure from underneath the scrotum to add as much as an inch.
QuoteWhile results vary across studies, the consensus is that the mean human penis is approximately 12.9–15 cm (5.1–5.9 in) in length with a 95% confidence interval of (10.7 cm, 19.1 cm) (or, equivalently, 4.23 in, 7.53 in).[5][6][7] The typical girth or circumference is approximately 12.3 cm (4.85 in) when fully erect. Yet, one reputable source claims that the relaxed human penis has an average length of only 4 inches (≈10.2 cm) and diameter of 1¼ inches (≈3.2 cm) while fully erect it has an average length of 6 inches (≈15.2 cm) and diameter of 1½ inches (≈3.8 cm).[8] The mean penis size is slightly greater than the median size. Studies have not found a relation between penis size and race.[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size
Keep telling yourselves size doesn't matter, boys :lol:
Quote from: Brazen on April 05, 2011, 09:36:01 AM
Keep telling yourselves size doesn't matter, boys :lol:
Never said it didn't matter, if you mean girth. Just that unless you have a micropenis or a difformity, a man shouldn't worry about it. If you make her cum repeatedly, she won't give a damn about the cock size.
Unless of course, you are a size queen. In that case, respect.
Quote from: Drakken on April 05, 2011, 09:37:15 AM
Never said it didn't matter, if you mean girth. Just that unless you have a micropenis or a difformity, a man shouldn't worry about it. If you make her cum repeatedly, she won't give a damn about the cock size.
Unless of course, you are a size queen. In that case, respect.
I don't buy the "long and thing goes too far in, short and thick does the trick" thing. You just can't do as much fun stuff with a stubby, and the length of thrust has a lot to do with the quality.
Given the choice between long and skinny or short and fat... I'd give up and find someone normal :P
Quote from: Brazen on April 05, 2011, 09:40:27 AM
Quote from: Drakken on April 05, 2011, 09:37:15 AM
Never said it didn't matter, if you mean girth. Just that unless you have a micropenis or a difformity, a man shouldn't worry about it. If you make her cum repeatedly, she won't give a damn about the cock size.
Unless of course, you are a size queen. In that case, respect.
I don't buy the "long and thing goes too far in, short and thick does the trick" thing. You just can't do as much fun stuff with a stubby, and the length of thrust has a lot to do with the quality.
Given the choice between long and skinny or short and fat... I'd give up and find someone normal :P
I'm curious, what do you consider "short" and "long" on the subject? :hmm:
Quote from: Brazen on April 05, 2011, 09:36:01 AM
Keep telling yourselves size doesn't matter, boys :lol:
Obviously it doesn't, much.
By the time she knows the size, sex is usually gonna happen. Few girls are crass enough to say 'eww, get that itty bitty thing away'.
Contrast with breast size - you can't get a Caliga-type interested (leaving aside whether you want to :P) without the assets, as it were, on display upfront.
Advantage: guys. :contract:
Quote from: Slargos on April 05, 2011, 09:42:03 AM
I'm curious, what do you consider "short" and "long" on the subject? :hmm:
We tend not to get a tape measure out like you guys obviously do. It would tend to put a damper on proceedings.
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 09:43:00 AM
By the time she knows the size, sex is usually gonna happen. Few girls are crass enough to say 'eww, get that itty bitty thing away'.
"What's that? It's like a penis only smaller".
Quote from: Brazen on April 05, 2011, 09:40:27 AM
I don't buy the "long and thing goes too far in, short and thick does the trick" thing. You just can't do as much fun stuff with a stubby, and the length of thrust has a lot to do with the quality.
Given the choice between long and skinny or short and fat... I'd give up and find someone normal :P
And someone normal, i.e average, is like mentioned above. If you seek bigger and reject the average, you are a size queen. Nothing wrong with that, I don't judge. Caliga's a size king too. :cool:
Besides, a real man with self-esteem is about to get laid but a woman's starts pussy-footing around about the size of his cock, this would be a huge turn-off and the man would throw the woman out. It's a big social faux pas, just like telling her that she smells like tuna.
Quote from: Drakken on April 05, 2011, 09:35:03 AM
Quote from: Tyr on April 05, 2011, 09:31:30 AM
I've not heard 5 inches as average, 6 or 7 is what I always heard.
7 inches is way above average. 6 inches is a above average. :huh:
Most people wrongly measure from underneath the scrotum to add as much as an inch.
QuoteWhile results vary across studies, the consensus is that the mean human penis is approximately 12.9–15 cm (5.1–5.9 in) in length with a 95% confidence interval of (10.7 cm, 19.1 cm) (or, equivalently, 4.23 in, 7.53 in).[5][6][7] The typical girth or circumference is approximately 12.3 cm (4.85 in) when fully erect. Yet, one reputable source claims that the relaxed human penis has an average length of only 4 inches (≈10.2 cm) and diameter of 1¼ inches (≈3.2 cm) while fully erect it has an average length of 6 inches (≈15.2 cm) and diameter of 1½ inches (≈3.8 cm).[8] The mean penis size is slightly greater than the median size. Studies have not found a relation between penis size and race.[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size
Well that makes me feel significantly better about myself.
:unsure: :ph34r:
QuoteBy the time she knows the size, sex is usually gonna happen. Few girls are crass enough to say 'eww, get that itty bitty thing away'.
True.
Quote
Contrast with breast size - you can't get a Caliga-type interested (leaving aside whether you want to :P) without the assets, as it were, on display upfront.
Debatable. There are various tricks like padded bras.
And then the problem with naturally curvy women is if they don't dress in a show offy way its hard to tell them apart from the fat.
Is there a consensus on where men should measure to and from? There must be an inch between measuring top or bottom, as it were.
Quote from: Brazen on April 05, 2011, 10:01:06 AM
Is there a consensus on where men should measure to and from? There must be an inch between measuring top or bottom, as it were.
From the uretra to the edge of the navel above the cock works wonders.
The problem with doing it underneath is that most guys would measure from the uretra to the scrotum, which adds about half an inch.
Is that in the seduction community handbook?
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 05, 2011, 10:05:18 AM
Is that in the seduction community handbook?
No, it's in The Lancet, the George Clooney in General Hospital-wannabee community handbook.
Quote from: Tyr on April 05, 2011, 09:46:56 AM
Debatable. There are various tricks like padded bras.
And then the problem with naturally curvy women is if they don't dress in a show offy way its hard to tell them apart from the fat.
One can only do so much with padding. :lol:
Quote from: DontSayBanana on April 05, 2011, 09:30:38 AM
So you're saying male porn actors are tools for businesses that supply "penis growth enlargment?" :P
No, I say the reverse: that the whole "penis growth enlargment" snake oil business is fed by the fact that men and women use porn as a benchmark of what a "good" penis size should be, regardless of the implications in real life (example, big cocks hurt or scare the shit out of most unexperienced women when they encounter one).
Porn has the downside of making many (mostly male) consumers feel inferior in their self-esteem. Such a guy will project his fantasy of having a bigger cock onto identifying himself with the actor he watches fucking, they whack off more, and they buy more porn or go buy these snake oil pills.
The actors are cherrypicked: you won't see a lot of porn actors with 5 inches cock pierce through and become a star, or even be used as a stunt cock. Most male actors have above average penises (it's one of three main avenues for a man with that size to milk money out of it, aside of nude dancing and prostitution), and even most of them are paid like shit compared to any ho porn starlet doing it for drugs.
That's part of my main beef with the industry as it is right now, I won't elaborate with the whole "19th Century race stereotypes" fed into the industry, at least in the US. And God knows I am far from being an Andrea Dworkin-type of feminist.
Porn actors- the women are all midgets. Which helps.
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 10:14:08 AM
One can only do so much with padding. :lol:
You'd be surprised :perv:
Remove the make-up, and most porn starlets aren't the dimes most guys think they are, if only for the acne and the injection marks. :yucky:
Quoteacne
Porn in HD. :yucky:
Quote from: Tyr on April 05, 2011, 10:27:37 AM
Porn actors- the women are all midgets. Which helps.
No comment on your choice of porn, I'm sure. :P
[As an aside, I saw an exhibit on Pompey & Vesuvius a little while ago, which featured frescoes from a brothel - featuring midget porn. My wife's comment: "the volcano was justified". :lol:
Quote from: Brazen on April 05, 2011, 09:36:01 AM
Keep telling yourselves size doesn't matter, boys :lol:
You mean it's not the moton of the ocean? :o :P
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 10:33:41 AM
Quote from: Tyr on April 05, 2011, 10:27:37 AM
Porn actors- the women are all midgets. Which helps.
No comment on your choice of porn, I'm sure. :P
[As an aside, I saw an exhibit on Pompey & Vesuvius a little while ago, which featured frescoes from a brothel - featuring midget porn. My wife's comment: "the volcano was justified". :lol:
Ney, real porn women I mean.
Most are just over the 5 foot mark.
Quote from: Drakken on April 05, 2011, 10:20:31 AM
I won't elaborate with the whole "19th Century race stereotypes" fed into the industry,
Please do.
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 10:33:41 AM
As an aside, I saw an exhibit on Pompey & Vesuvius a little while ago, which featured frescoes from a brothel - featuring midget porn. My wife's comment: "the volcano was justified". :lol:
I assume you meant Pompeii... I've seen that artwork in person. It was pretty funny. We were there with a group that included a mother and her nine-year old daughter. As soon as we got into the brothel (the building is so well preserved you can actually walk into it) she put her hands over her daughter's eyes and led her around by the waist. :lol:
Quote from: Caliga on April 05, 2011, 10:40:41 AM
I assume you meant Pompeii... I've seen that artwork in person. It was pretty funny. We were there with a group that included a mother and her nine-year old daughter. As soon as we got into the brothel (the building is so well preserved you can actually walk into it) she put her hands over her daughter's eyes and led her around by the waist. :lol:
Heh, did mom grow an extra set of hands? :P
Anyway - in this show, the brothel stuff was in a seperate room, kids keep out.
The funny part was the audio guide, which I did not get - some objects had "adult only" numbers to press. Some were for obvious reasons, but some were just wierd - what was the "adult only" commentary on a fishhook? :hmm:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 05, 2011, 10:36:24 AM
Please do.
The entire interracial content in American porn is based on the primal fear of white men of seeing their wives or daughters being "ravished" by black men. They are always usually presented as smooth seducers, more pimpish, bad boyish, even animalistic, than their white counterparts, tempting daughters and mothers into "going black" using the silly logic that "if you go black, you can't go back".
They tend to forget the rest of the sentence: "because if she goes black, most whites won't take her back". But of course, that's left out of the movie.
I remember when I was studying the causes of the ACW and I read all this rhetoric used, word for word, by the Democrats against Lincoln, that if he was elected he'd free slaves and they'd run around like animals, free to take the white's wives and daughters. What I see in interracial porn movies is exploiting the exact same racist fears in Caucasian males, but for profit instead of getting votes.
Ever seen a Cuckold scene in a movie? The only time I see a "wife" bang a white man is in the "Please bang my wife" vein, or paying for sex vein. In these the husband "offers" the wife a treat, either for money or for swinging. The rest of the time, it's a white man seeing his wife bitch fuck a big black man, with the black guy demeaning the woman like an animal while the woman destroys the husband, humiliating him and berating him for being inferior and tiny.
Nothing in porn is positive for black men, their so-called racial stereotypes of being big cocks is used against them by putting them into the role of a big ape, an animal. Well okey, fine, women like aggressive guys and bad boys, I totally agree with that. Yet I think blacks can be put into roles that are more sophisticated than that, rather than just be a big cock for trashy white female stereotypes to slurp on. Even Lexington Steele, who is one of the most sophisticated male porn actors around, often falls to that in his vignette movies.
You have porn discussion nights in the community?
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 10:53:18 AM
Heh, did mom grow an extra set of hands? :P
Anyway - in this show, the brothel stuff was in a seperate room, kids keep out.
The funny part was the audio guide, which I did not get - some objects had "adult only" numbers to press. Some were for obvious reasons, but some were just wierd - what was the "adult only" commentary on a fishhook? :hmm:
I'm sorry, I should have written "hand", not "hands". :blush: She had one hand over her eyes, and the other one around her waist so she didn't bump into shit.
I don't know about the audio guide... I did see tourists with some headset thing which I presume must be that, but we had a private tour guide.... which actually turned out to be a bad thing, since his English was so poor that we couldn't really understand what he was saying at all. A bunch of people (including that lady) bitched about that to the overall tour leader, and he was like "Ehhhhh... I'a take'a care'a da problem for da future, uh? :shifty: " I fear that Pompeii Tour Guide Mario may no longer be with us. :(
Most of the cuckold videos I've seen have been white couples and a younger white male. I am not really a fan of this genre so those might be the exception rather than the rule, though (when I watch them it's because I like the actress starring in them... I find this sort of scenario pretty creepy, to be honest).
Portugal is grey.
We have no dicks :Embarrass:
Quote from: Martim Silva on April 05, 2011, 12:59:38 PM
Portugal is grey.
We have no dicks :Embarrass:
I knew it! :D
Quote from: Drakken on April 05, 2011, 10:57:00 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 05, 2011, 10:36:24 AM
Please do.
The entire interracial content in American porn is based on the primal fear of white men of seeing their wives or daughters being "ravished" by black men. They are always usually presented as smooth seducers, more pimpish, bad boyish, even animalistic, than their white counterparts, tempting daughters and mothers into "going black" using the silly logic that "if you go black, you can't go back".
They tend to forget the rest of the sentence: "because if she goes black, most whites won't take her back". But of course, that's left out of the movie.
I remember when I was studying the causes of the ACW and I read all this rhetoric used, word for word, by the Democrats against Lincoln, that if he was elected he'd free slaves and they'd run around like animals, free to take the white's wives and daughters. What I see in interracial porn movies is exploiting the exact same racist fears in Caucasian males, but for profit instead of getting votes.
Ever seen a Cuckold scene in a movie? The only time I see a "wife" bang a white man is in the "Please bang my wife" vein, or paying for sex vein. In these the husband "offers" the wife a treat, either for money or for swinging. The rest of the time, it's a white man seeing his wife bitch fuck a big black man, with the black guy demeaning the woman like an animal while the woman destroys the husband, humiliating him and berating him for being inferior and tiny.
Nothing in porn is positive for black men, their so-called racial stereotypes of being big cocks is used against them by putting them into the role of a big ape, an animal. Well okey, fine, women like aggressive guys and bad boys, I totally agree with that. Yet I think blacks can be put into roles that are more sophisticated than that, rather than just be a big cock for trashy white female stereotypes to slurp on. Even Lexington Steele, who is one of the most sophisticated male porn actors around, often falls to that in his vignette movies.
Meh, I can't get worked up about racism in a porn movie. :lol: People are turned on by the oddest fetishes - it doesn't mean much.
As Freud one remarked, "sometimes a gigantic, throbbing Black dick is just a gigantic, throbbing Black dick". Or something of the sort. ;)
You, sir, are like a jewish version of hitler!
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 10:53:18 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 05, 2011, 10:40:41 AM
I assume you meant Pompeii... I've seen that artwork in person. It was pretty funny. We were there with a group that included a mother and her nine-year old daughter. As soon as we got into the brothel (the building is so well preserved you can actually walk into it) she put her hands over her daughter's eyes and led her around by the waist. :lol:
Heh, did mom grow an extra set of hands? :P
Anyway - in this show, the brothel stuff was in a seperate room, kids keep out.
The funny part was the audio guide, which I did not get - some objects had "adult only" numbers to press. Some were for obvious reasons, but some were just wierd - what was the "adult only" commentary on a fishhook? :hmm:
I saw that too! Well not the mother. The brothel. Our tour guide wore his shirt half unbuttoned with a large gold medallion nestled in his chest hair. He kept referring to the petrified bodies as fellow employees who just didn't talk much.
Quote from: HVC on April 05, 2011, 01:16:23 PM
You, sir, are like a jewish version of hitler!
Just "like"? :(
Quote from: Norgy on April 05, 2011, 09:33:37 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 04, 2011, 03:44:59 PM
Quote from: Norgy on April 04, 2011, 02:26:17 PM
I am big in Japan.
She lied to you.
I meant Japan the country. Not the stripper. Or underage schoolgirl of your fantasies.
Norwegian Wood is popular in Japan
Quote from: BiggusDickus on April 05, 2011, 03:42:38 PM
Quote from: Norgy on April 05, 2011, 09:33:37 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 04, 2011, 03:44:59 PM
Quote from: Norgy on April 04, 2011, 02:26:17 PM
I am big in Japan.
She lied to you.
I meant Japan the country. Not the stripper. Or underage schoolgirl of your fantasies.
Norwegian Wood is popular in Japan
I imagine so. If there is anything more pathetic then Scandiweenie masculinity, it's modern Japanese masculinity.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 05, 2011, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: BiggusDickus on April 05, 2011, 03:42:38 PM
Quote from: Norgy on April 05, 2011, 09:33:37 AM
Quote from: Siege on April 04, 2011, 03:44:59 PM
Quote from: Norgy on April 04, 2011, 02:26:17 PM
I am big in Japan.
She lied to you.
I meant Japan the country. Not the stripper. Or underage schoolgirl of your fantasies.
Norwegian Wood is popular in Japan
I imagine so. If there is anything more pathetic then Scandiweenie masculinity, it's modern Japanese masculinity.
:hmm: :secret:
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 10:33:41 AM
[As an aside, I saw an exhibit on Pompey & Vesuvius a little while ago, which featured frescoes from a brothel - featuring midget porn. My wife's comment: "the volcano was justified". :lol:
All a customer had to do was point to the fresco(es) which depicted the services he wanted to purchase - no need to speak (CdMs dream come true). There were a large variety of potential services. You or the producer of the show seem to be fixated on the midget offerings.
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 01:08:04 PM
Meh, I can't get worked up about racism in a porn movie. :lol: People Straight white men are turned on by the oddest fetishes crude displays of misogyny and racism - it doesn't mean much implicates the dominant culture's suppressed dynamics of gender and race.
As Freud one remarked, "sometimes a gigantic, throbbing Black dick is just a gigantic, throbbing Black dick". Or something of the sort. ;)
FYP
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 05, 2011, 04:03:48 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 10:33:41 AM
[As an aside, I saw an exhibit on Pompey & Vesuvius a little while ago, which featured frescoes from a brothel - featuring midget porn. My wife's comment: "the volcano was justified". :lol:
All a customer had to do was point to the fresco(es) which depicted the services he wanted to purchase - no need to speak (CdMs dream come true). There were a large variety of potential services. You or the producer of the show seem to be fixated on the midget offerings.
Heh, it was one of only two frescos reproduced. :D
I seriously doubt that ancient Romans chose midget threesomes half the time ... so I'm going with "producer of the show".
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 05, 2011, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 01:08:04 PM
Meh, I can't get worked up about racism in a porn movie. :lol: People Straight white men are turned on by the oddest fetishes crude displays of misogyny and racism - it doesn't mean much implicates the dominant culture's suppressed dynamics of gender and race.
As Freud one remarked, "sometimes a gigantic, throbbing Black dick is just a gigantic, throbbing Black dick". Or something of the sort. ;)
FYP
You "fixed" it to mean the exact opposite. ;)
I think old Mr. Savage put it best when said something like 'of course all that stuff is terribly racist and sexist and everything else-ist. But if people are getting off on it and no-one is hurt by it, who cares?'
The notion that odd fetishes are the province of "straight white men" exclusively needs a bit of work, methinks they are a tad more widespread than that ... :lol:
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 04:18:08 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 05, 2011, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 01:08:04 PM
Meh, I can't get worked up about racism in a porn movie. :lol: People Straight white men are turned on by the oddest fetishes crude displays of misogyny and racism - it doesn't mean much implicates the dominant culture's suppressed dynamics of gender and race.
As Freud one remarked, "sometimes a gigantic, throbbing Black dick is just a gigantic, throbbing Black dick". Or something of the sort. ;)
FYP
You "fixed" it to mean the exact opposite. ;)
I think old Mr. Savage put it best when said something like 'of course all that stuff is terribly racist and sexist and everything else-ist. But if people are getting off on it and no-one is hurt by it, who cares?'
The notion that odd fetishes are the province of "straight white men" exclusively needs a bit of work, methinks they are a tad more widespread than that ... :lol:
It certainly seems like Oikophobia is generally speaking a whites-only kind of malady, however. :hmm:
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 04:18:08 PM
You "fixed" it to mean the exact opposite. ;)
I think old Mr. Savage put it best when said something like 'of course all that stuff is terribly racist and sexist and everything else-ist. But if people are getting off on it and no-one is hurt by it, who cares?'
The notion that odd fetishes are the province of "straight white men" exclusively needs a bit of work, methinks they are a tad more widespread than that ... :lol:
I don't think the porn scenario of the black bull debasing the white whore is a "fetish" in any meaningful sense of the word. I also don't think it's entirely harmless. Unlike shoe fetishism or saran-wrap fetishism or whatever, it has a lot of appeal precisely because it taps into deep insecurities about cultural superiority that "people" have, where people are defined as the straight white men who buy, watch, and produce it.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 05, 2011, 04:25:38 PM
I don't think the porn scenario of the black bull debasing the white whore is a "fetish" in any meaningful sense of the word. I also don't think it's entirely harmless. Unlike shoe fetishism or saran-wrap fetishism or whatever, it has a lot of appeal precisely because it taps into deep insecurities about cultural superiority that "people" have, where people are defined as the straight white men who buy, watch, and produce it.
Tons of fetishes do this. They very often have elements of humiliation and role-reversal. If you think these are limited to "straight white men", you are dreaming. Really, other than being all judge-y about it, who cares? If some white guy likes wearing panties, or some black woman likes being slapped on the butt, no doubt that speaks volumes about the sexist and racist background they live in - but really, so what. We already knew that.
Quote from: Malthus on April 05, 2011, 04:31:29 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 05, 2011, 04:25:38 PM
I don't think the porn scenario of the black bull debasing the white whore is a "fetish" in any meaningful sense of the word. I also don't think it's entirely harmless. Unlike shoe fetishism or saran-wrap fetishism or whatever, it has a lot of appeal precisely because it taps into deep insecurities about cultural superiority that "people" have, where people are defined as the straight white men who buy, watch, and produce it.
Tons of fetishes do this. They very often have elements of humiliation and role-reversal. If you think these are limited to "straight white men", you are dreaming. Really, other than being all judge-y about it, who cares? If some white guy likes wearing panties, or some black woman likes being slapped on the butt, no doubt that speaks volumes about the sexist and racist background they live in - but really, so what. We already knew that.
You are the one who is dreaming if you think that, in the US context at the very least, the black man/white woman portrayal in porn is merely one fetish among many. I would be the last to disapprove of someone for enjoying it, but that doesn't mean erasing its broader significance.
I also resist categorizing it as a sexual fetish, because it doesn't substitute an object of sexual gratification the way a "classic" fetish does, and also because it is so much a product of shared culture and history that individualizing it as just a fetish doesn't do the phenomenon justice.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 05, 2011, 04:41:49 PM
You are the one who is dreaming if you think that, in the US context at the very least, the black man/white woman portrayal in porn is merely one fetish among many. I would be the last to disapprove of someone for enjoying it, but that doesn't mean erasing its broader significance.
I also resist categorizing it as a sexual fetish, because it doesn't substitute an object of sexual gratification the way a "classic" fetish does, and also because it is so much a product of shared culture and history that individualizing it as just a fetish doesn't do the phenomenon justice.
How does wanting to be spanked "substitute an object of sexual gratification"? Certainly, the narrow and/or psychiatric definition of "fetish" is to get aroused by particular objects, but it has a broader popular definition, encompassing all sorts of things such as acting out particular situations.
If you don't like the term "fetish", how about "sexual role-play"? Doesn't make any real difference to the question. If some (white, male) likes getting buggered while wearing panties, or some (black, female) likes getting spanked and spat on, that is really no big deal. Nor does it have any broader significance we are not already aware of - that some people (not just "straight white males", though they consume the most porn, but some people generally) transfer their insecurities and obsessions into sex play and porn.
I don't get why people would watch pornography based on something they're afraid of. :hmm:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 05, 2011, 06:54:54 PM
I don't get why people would watch pornography based on something they're afraid of. :hmm:
Why do people enjoy watching a trainwreck? Because it plays in their primal fears.
Quote from: Drakken on April 06, 2011, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 05, 2011, 06:54:54 PM
I don't get why people would watch pornography based on something they're afraid of. :hmm:
Why do people enjoy watching a trainwreck? Because it plays in their primal fears.
I think, more to the point, some people are simply turned on by sexual humiliation - their own, or someone elses'.
If they think of Blacks as frightening or animalistic, or inferior, a person having sex with them in some humiliating or degrading manner is doubly humiliated and degraded; the whole "cuckolding" thing is based on this.
A similar fetish/role play involves guys wearing women's clothing.
Quote from: Malthus on April 06, 2011, 02:30:44 PM
I think, more to the point, some people are simply turned on by sexual humiliation - their own, or someone elses'.
If they think of Blacks as frightening or animalistic, or inferior, a person having sex with them in some humiliating or degrading manner is doubly humiliated and degraded; the whole "cuckolding" thing is based on this.
A similar fetish/role play involves guys wearing women's clothing.
So why the vast majority of these "fetish" cuckold movies brings in a black man fucking a white wife in front of his sissy husband? Why things like the wife bitch destroying the husband, berate his tiny cock, even going so far as to force him to eat the black guy's cum all over her sexual parts? Never saw that with the rare times the bull is a white guy, in fact these are often portrayed in more "positive" view, like a treat, like an experience, or a money thing.
It's far from being an innocent choice, man. The producers know that this is a string they can harp on in the US because it's a deep-seated, racist fear.
:huh:
I still wonder where all these cuckold videos starring black guys are. I've seen lots of thumbnails for cuckold videos on YouPorn and, like I said earlier, never recall seeing any with a black dude. They're always starring a younger white guy IIRC--in a lot of them both the other man and the 'husband' are young guys, in fact.
Go on ApeTube and click on "Cuckold" category.
Quote from: Drakken on April 06, 2011, 02:53:24 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 06, 2011, 02:30:44 PM
I think, more to the point, some people are simply turned on by sexual humiliation - their own, or someone elses'.
If they think of Blacks as frightening or animalistic, or inferior, a person having sex with them in some humiliating or degrading manner is doubly humiliated and degraded; the whole "cuckolding" thing is based on this.
A similar fetish/role play involves guys wearing women's clothing.
So why the vast majority of these "fetish" cuckold movies brings in a black man fucking a white wife in front of his sissy husband? Why things like the wife bitch destroying the husband, berate his tiny cock, even going so far as to force him to eat the black guy's cum all over her sexual parts? Never saw that with the rare times the bull is a white guy, in fact these are often portrayed in more "positive" view, like a treat, like an experience, or a money thing.
It's far from being an innocent choice, man. The producers know that this is a string they can harp on in the US because it's a deep-seated, racist fear.
I don't understand. What part of my post are you disagreeing with?
Clearly, some are turned on by the "black guys are humiliating" thing, and obviously racism plays a part.
My issue is - so what?
The parallel here is guys dressing up in women's clothing to be humiliated. Clearly, this has much to do with sexist notions of women as subordinate, thus being like unto a woman is humiliating. So what? In neither case is the sex-play the *cause* of racism or sexism.
A similar bpoint came up in one of Dan Savage's advice columns years ago, where some Black fellow was worried that his relationship with a White chick was based on racism, because she was into rough sex with him because he was Black. Savages' response was something like 'of course racism has something to do with it - but, you are getting laid as a result. What's the complaint?'
Quote from: Drakken on April 06, 2011, 02:53:24 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 06, 2011, 02:30:44 PM
I think, more to the point, some people are simply turned on by sexual humiliation - their own, or someone elses'.
If they think of Blacks as frightening or animalistic, or inferior, a person having sex with them in some humiliating or degrading manner is doubly humiliated and degraded; the whole "cuckolding" thing is based on this.
A similar fetish/role play involves guys wearing women's clothing.
So why the vast majority of these "fetish" cuckold movies brings in a black man fucking a white wife in front of his sissy husband? Why things like the wife bitch destroying the husband, berate his tiny cock, even going so far as to force him to eat the black guy's cum all over her sexual parts? Never saw that with the rare times the bull is a white guy, in fact these are often portrayed in more "positive" view, like a treat, like an experience, or a money thing.
It's far from being an innocent choice, man. The producers know that this is a string they can harp on in the US because it's a deep-seated, racist fear.
I don't get it. You're the one who watches these videos and you complain about them?
Quote from: The Brain on April 06, 2011, 03:31:48 PM
I don't get it. You're the one who watches these videos and you complain about them?
:lol:
A good point ...
Quote from: Drakken on April 06, 2011, 02:57:47 PM
ApeTube
:hmm: Maybe that explains your observations?
I was gonna say...
Quote from: The Brain on April 06, 2011, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: Drakken on April 06, 2011, 02:53:24 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 06, 2011, 02:30:44 PM
I think, more to the point, some people are simply turned on by sexual humiliation - their own, or someone elses'.
If they think of Blacks as frightening or animalistic, or inferior, a person having sex with them in some humiliating or degrading manner is doubly humiliated and degraded; the whole "cuckolding" thing is based on this.
A similar fetish/role play involves guys wearing women's clothing.
So why the vast majority of these "fetish" cuckold movies brings in a black man fucking a white wife in front of his sissy husband? Why things like the wife bitch destroying the husband, berate his tiny cock, even going so far as to force him to eat the black guy's cum all over her sexual parts? Never saw that with the rare times the bull is a white guy, in fact these are often portrayed in more "positive" view, like a treat, like an experience, or a money thing.
It's far from being an innocent choice, man. The producers know that this is a string they can harp on in the US because it's a deep-seated, racist fear.
I don't get it. You're the one who watches these videos and you complain about them?
He watches them purely for the purpose of later critiquing them of course.
Worst hijack evah.