So apparently, Tories are proposing restrictions on immigration into the UK. There will be quotas, pay caps, restrictions on qualified workers coming in from outside of the EU (they would want to do the same to workers from the EU too but can't). If I am not mistaken, asylum seekers will also have a harder time getting into the UK.
All of this with one exception. In one area immigration laws actually are getting relaxed, making it possible to become a subject of Her Majesty after only 3 years. There is just one requirement: you need to have 10 million quid in a UK bank account.
Tories. Really?
So all you downtrodden, or hardworking, or escaping persecution, or skilled: keep out. All you fat Saudi magnates and arms trading African warlords, who kill their servants and torture women: come all in, we have many white whores for you.
Seriously.
No more Jerusalem. Let's build a lot of dark satanic mills.
I'm quite disgusted. The Labour may be two-faced assholes and bastards, but noone beats Tories in the pure, shameless evil.
Cancuckleheads have something similar if I'm not mistaken. :)
Didn't we already have a thread about this? Something about chefs if I recall.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 23, 2011, 06:51:47 PM
Cancuckleheads have something similar if I'm not mistaken. :)
Yep. They'll let you in if you have a sufficiently large bag of cash.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 23, 2011, 06:51:47 PM
Cancuckleheads have something similar if I'm not mistaken. :)
Well, I have lower standards for a mongrel nation composed of Injuns, criminals and Ukes.
Quote from: Martinus on March 23, 2011, 06:57:59 PM
Well, I have lower standards for a mongrel nation composed of Injuns, criminals and Ukes.
And Chinks. Lots of Chinks now. :)
Makes sense. Why should the only people they let in be poor scumbags with no choice but to resort to crime? Especially when asylum seekers are inherently immoral.
I recommend you quit being such a faggot, faggot.
Quote from: Martinus on March 23, 2011, 06:57:59 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 23, 2011, 06:51:47 PM
Cancuckleheads have something similar if I'm not mistaken. :)
Well, I have lower standards for a mongrel nation composed of Injuns, criminals and Ukes.
:cool: God Bless Canada.
Quite seriously - I'm not sure why Martinus would object - it's not as if "investor class immigrants" are taking spots away from other classes. And it's not merely having a large enough bag of cash - you have to invest at least $100k in a Canadian business to qualify.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 23, 2011, 06:56:02 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 23, 2011, 06:51:47 PM
Cancuckleheads have something similar if I'm not mistaken. :)
Yep. They'll let you in if you have a sufficiently large bag of cash.
We have something similar, IIRC.
Anyway, wow. What a huge overreaction, even considering it's from Marty. Isn't it common sense to restrict immigration when unemployment is high?? The UK is long overdue in putting the skids on immigration; it's about time they acted. I expect the trend to continue as the multi-culti mindset erodes across Europe.
We should drop all borders and let people move around freely.
Except for Poles. ;)
So, the UK will restrict non-EU immigrants to enter, making my chances to find a job there if I ever wanted to increase?
YAY!
:lol:
Meanwhile, the center-party leader in Sweden wants to increase immigration from today's ca 100 000 per year to 300 000 per year, effectuating more or less a complete replacement of the population within less than two generations. Any doubts about something morbidly stupid and/or sinister is going on have been wiped away.
And besides, like Sarkozy they're merely pandering. I seriously doubt they have any real intent to implement these things.
They're simply afraid of what's happening all across Europe.
The winds, they are, a-changing and the french revolution will look like a sunday picnic when we're done.
Yeah I guess the brown people were fun to have around when they agreed to do the dirty jobs you whites did not want to and opted to welfare instead. But now their number is out of control and suddenly the majority realizes the third worlders will not integrate by cleaning the toilets in Europe.
Well, a bit more seriously, I do subscribe to the whole struggle of civilizations thingie, and to me it looks like Western Europe is at the stage where the Western Romans were, when they kept accepting barbarians in to solve their problems, only to find they are replacing problems and not solving them.
I think both HK and Canada have something similar. You are far more likely to become a citizen if you have loads of cash.
Quote from: Tamas on March 24, 2011, 03:11:52 AM
Yeah I guess the brown people were fun to have around when they agreed to do the dirty jobs you whites did not want to and opted to welfare instead. But now their number is out of control and suddenly the majority realizes the third worlders will not integrate by cleaning the toilets in Europe.
Well, a bit more seriously, I do subscribe to the whole struggle of civilizations thingie, and to me it looks like Western Europe is at the stage where the Western Romans were, when they kept accepting barbarians in to solve their problems, only to find they are replacing problems and not solving them.
I am glad that you've finally accepted your place on the scale, Gypsy. :sleep:
So do NZ and Australia.
And, indeed, Bulgaria........I know that because they spammed me an invite recently :P
Quote from: Slargos on March 24, 2011, 03:13:59 AM
Quote from: Tamas on March 24, 2011, 03:11:52 AM
Yeah I guess the brown people were fun to have around when they agreed to do the dirty jobs you whites did not want to and opted to welfare instead. But now their number is out of control and suddenly the majority realizes the third worlders will not integrate by cleaning the toilets in Europe.
Well, a bit more seriously, I do subscribe to the whole struggle of civilizations thingie, and to me it looks like Western Europe is at the stage where the Western Romans were, when they kept accepting barbarians in to solve their problems, only to find they are replacing problems and not solving them.
I am glad that you've finally accepted your place on the scale, Gypsy. :sleep:
I am white, and this will surely not be questioned by a descendant of pirates on the fringes of the continent.
Few people from the UK are objecting as it's addressing our main concerns about immigration, mainly non-EU citizens staying on after student visas and those coming in to do less skilled work cheaper than Brits. Professionals earning over a certain amount will have no problem staying, not just millionaire investors.
I can't imagine rolling up to any country outside the EU and expecting to stay indefinitely working in a burger bar, can you?
Quote from: Tamas on March 24, 2011, 04:18:54 AM
Quote from: Slargos on March 24, 2011, 03:13:59 AM
Quote from: Tamas on March 24, 2011, 03:11:52 AM
Yeah I guess the brown people were fun to have around when they agreed to do the dirty jobs you whites did not want to and opted to welfare instead. But now their number is out of control and suddenly the majority realizes the third worlders will not integrate by cleaning the toilets in Europe.
Well, a bit more seriously, I do subscribe to the whole struggle of civilizations thingie, and to me it looks like Western Europe is at the stage where the Western Romans were, when they kept accepting barbarians in to solve their problems, only to find they are replacing problems and not solving them.
I am glad that you've finally accepted your place on the scale, Gypsy. :sleep:
I am white, and this will surely not be questioned by a descendant of pirates on the fringes of the continent.
Certainly not. Hyperborea has no interest in asking politely. :sleep:
Quote from: Brazen on March 24, 2011, 04:24:59 AM
Professionals earning over a certain amount will have no problem staying, not just millionaire investors.
I talked about this in another thread.
They have set a very high bar for "professionals earning over a certain amount", which is now excluding a lot of talented, hard-working non-EU professionals. Professionals who have worked in the UK for top firms over the last few years now find that, unless they are above this arbitrary barrier, their work permits are not being renewed.
And by gum, we need these talented individuals. Many of them are educated in the "hard" subjects that our graduates like to avoid.
I don't think the idea that the UK is going to suddenly compete with places like the US and Canada for roving entrepreneurial capital holds much water.
Of course, nothing is being done to stop the world's filthy lucre from being parked in London property, which to be honest does more to hurt the middle and lower classes in the city, through significant knock-on house price rises, than the illegal takeaway chef.
Quote from: Warspite on March 24, 2011, 06:14:47 AM
Quote from: Brazen on March 24, 2011, 04:24:59 AM
Professionals earning over a certain amount will have no problem staying, not just millionaire investors.
Of course, nothing is being done to stop the world's filthy lucre from being parked in London property, which to be honest does more to hurt the middle and lower classes in the city, through significant knock-on house price rises, than the illegal takeaway chef.
Agree with most of what you say but not this. The super prime London residential market is utterly separate from the rest of the market. It has as little effect on the <£1m market as does e.g. cocoa prices.
Quote from: Gups on March 24, 2011, 06:29:48 AM
Agree with most of what you say but not this. The super prime London residential market is utterly separate from the rest of the market. It has as little effect on the <£1m market as does e.g. cocoa prices.
Well, the >£1m market is surprisingly large.
A three-bed family home in Muswell Hill (zone 3, no tube station) now goes for about £2.5m.
Given that there are so few new builds and conversions, I really think there is a substantial knock-on effect; snapping up leaseholds in Belgravia and Hampstead pushes people into Kensington and St John's Wood, which then pushes people into Fulham and Archway.
Quote from: Warspite on March 24, 2011, 06:14:47 AM
Quote from: Brazen on March 24, 2011, 04:24:59 AM
Professionals earning over a certain amount will have no problem staying, not just millionaire investors.
I talked about this in another thread.
They have set a very high bar for "professionals earning over a certain amount", which is now excluding a lot of talented, hard-working non-EU professionals. Professionals who have worked in the UK for top firms over the last few years now find that, unless they are above this arbitrary barrier, their work permits are not being renewed.
:yeah:
I have a serious question about this. There is a very real possibility that my wife may be able to get the company to move her job to London (or maybe Dublin). Would I be pretty much unable to enter the job market if that happened?
Quote from: Brazen on March 24, 2011, 04:24:59 AM
Few people from the UK are objecting as it's addressing our main concerns about immigration, mainly non-EU citizens staying on after student visas and those coming in to do less skilled work cheaper than Brits. Professionals earning over a certain amount will have no problem staying, not just millionaire investors.
I can't imagine rolling up to any country outside the EU and expecting to stay indefinitely working in a burger bar, can you?
Our local burger bars (and Tim Horton coffee shops, and Canadian Tires) are having real trouble finding workers, so they're importing Philipinos by the planeload.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 24, 2011, 10:50:53 AM
I have a serious question about this. There is a very real possibility that my wife may be able to get the company to move her job to London (or maybe Dublin). Would I be pretty much unable to enter the job market if that happened?
What kind of visa will she have? You should be able to qualify to work as a dependent.
Define "dependent". Here it means someone who does not work and is supported by the head of the household.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 24, 2011, 11:34:25 AM
Define "dependent". Here it means someone who does not work and is supported by the head of the household.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/workingintheuk/tier2/general/dependants/eligibility/
Who is a dependant?
A dependant is:
your husband, wife or civil partner; or
your unmarried or same-sex partner; or
your child aged under 18 years old.
Your dependants can be over 18 years old if they are in the United Kingdom now as dependants.
And the other section :
Working and conditions
This page explains what work dependants of skilled worker (Tier 2 General) applicants of the points-based system to work in the United Kingdom can do.
What work your dependants can do
Your dependants are allowed to work, though your dependant cannot work as a doctor in training.
Filtering your immigrants is evil now? Of course rich people are more attractive. Immigrating to the UK isn't a universal right.
Doesn't it make sense to want people with ample resources to invest in your country? How is that satanic? It sounds like common sense to me. It may not be wholey noble and full of bright light but hardly evil. More money is potentially a larger tax base to help fund services for the common Briton.
Dark Satanic mills? Really? Pure evil? God your hyperbole is pathetic sometimes.
Quote from: Slargos on March 24, 2011, 03:04:40 AM
:lol:
Meanwhile, the center-party leader in Sweden wants to increase immigration from today's ca 100 000 per year to 300 000 per year, effectuating more or less a complete replacement of the population within less than two generations. Any doubts about something morbidly stupid and/or sinister is going on have been wiped away.
It amazes me so many people want to live in such a dark, cold, and dreary place as Sweden. Tell your center-party we have plenty of space for people in Alaska if they run out of space.
Quote from: Valmy on March 24, 2011, 01:16:40 PM
Doesn't it make sense to want people with ample resources to invest in your country? How is that satanic? It sounds like common sense to me. It may not be wholey noble and full of bright light but hardly evil. More money is potentially a larger tax base to help fund services for the common Briton.
Dark Satanic mills? Really? Pure evil? God your hyperbole is pathetic sometimes.
Rich people don't come to the UK to invest, or rather, they have not done so over the last twenty years. What we have had is rich people come to the UK to benefit from our tax regime. ;)
I am certainly not a soak-the-rich type, and I certainly have nothing against them being granted the right to
spend three months a year in the UK and buy French luxury goods on Knightsbridge work in the UK, but what I do not approve of is the cutting out of an entry path into the British economy for a large number of hard-working and talented immigrants who are really what make London, at least, a culturally and financially richer place.
Quote from: Warspite on March 24, 2011, 01:37:20 PM
but what I do not approve of is the cutting out of an entry path into the British economy for a large number of hard-working and talented immigrants who are really what make London, at least, a culturally and financially richer place.
Well what is the context for that? Wanting to attract more Euros for those jobs?
'Culturally rich' is often a euphemism for 'crime-ridden and dirty', especially in Europe.
Culturally rich to me means lots of attractive educated women in miniskirts who drink.
Quote from: Neil on March 24, 2011, 02:35:16 PM
'Culturally rich' is often a euphemism for 'crime-ridden and dirty', especially in Europe.
:lol:
What an amazingly succint description. :hmm:
Quote from: Valmy on March 24, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: Slargos on March 24, 2011, 03:04:40 AM
:lol:
Meanwhile, the center-party leader in Sweden wants to increase immigration from today's ca 100 000 per year to 300 000 per year, effectuating more or less a complete replacement of the population within less than two generations. Any doubts about something morbidly stupid and/or sinister is going on have been wiped away.
It amazes me so many people want to live in such a dark, cold, and dreary place as Sweden. Tell your center-party we have plenty of space for people in Alaska if they run out of space.
Oh, we'll not run out of space any time soon. Japan is similarily sized, and there's plenty more Japaneese than Swedes. The issue is whether Swedes are still Swedes if 90% are swarthy muslims. :hmm:
Quote from: Slargos on March 24, 2011, 03:03:07 PM
Oh, we'll not run out of space any time soon. Japan is similarily sized, and there's plenty more Japaneese than Swedes. The issue is whether Swedes are still Swedes if 90% are swarthy muslims. :hmm:
Well certainly if the whole point of your country is to be an ethnic nation state, why bother to continue to exist if that basis is removed?
Quote from: Slargos on March 24, 2011, 03:03:07 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 24, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: Slargos on March 24, 2011, 03:04:40 AM
:lol:
Meanwhile, the center-party leader in Sweden wants to increase immigration from today's ca 100 000 per year to 300 000 per year, effectuating more or less a complete replacement of the population within less than two generations. Any doubts about something morbidly stupid and/or sinister is going on have been wiped away.
It amazes me so many people want to live in such a dark, cold, and dreary place as Sweden. Tell your center-party we have plenty of space for people in Alaska if they run out of space.
Oh, we'll not run out of space any time soon. Japan is similarily sized, and there's plenty more Japaneese than Swedes. The issue is whether Swedes are still Swedes if 90% are swarthy muslims. :hmm:
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Quote from: Valmy on March 24, 2011, 01:51:16 PM
Quote from: Warspite on March 24, 2011, 01:37:20 PM
but what I do not approve of is the cutting out of an entry path into the British economy for a large number of hard-working and talented immigrants who are really what make London, at least, a culturally and financially richer place.
Well what is the context for that? Wanting to attract more Euros for those jobs?
"Middle England" is worried that we'll be swamped with foreign rabble. Because of EU membership we can't stop random East Europeans turning up. Because of rules about families and so on it's hard to reduce immigrants from the sub-continent. Rich people are just too attractive to turn away. So, the only way to placate the middle Englanders is to to stop highly qualified foreigners that we have no particular obligations towards.
It's insane of course.
The thing that really annoys me is the hypocrisy of these people. There can be few people worse than the British for turning up in other people's countries. Apparently 10% of the population is living abroad as we speak. If many more Brits move to LA it will become our second city after London :D
I'm still hoping that the new restrictions will not prove to be very stringent or workable. But I'm disturbed by what the Londoners have said :hmm:
I noticed we are getting Gordon Ramsay. The lack of profanity on American television has been addressed.
Lithuania does something similar. IIRC they just introduced it a year or two ago and caused a minor fuss in the way they advertised it as being able to buy an EU passport. The amount they require is quite a bit lower than 10 million.
I would have nothing against people being able to buy citizenship. Sure, its a bit unfair...but just think of the good things we can do with that money. And millionaires are hardly going to be drains on the economy.
However what this scheme involves is that they must merely have 10 million in a UK bank account- just sitting there. Once the time is up they can take it away and do what they will with it.
Quotas and most of the current rules tightening are retarded.
QuoteThe thing that really annoys me is the hypocrisy of these people. There can be few people worse than the British for turning up in other people's countries. Apparently 10% of the population is living abroad as we speak. If many more Brits move to LA it will become our second city after London
Amusingly people who moan about immigration are well aware of this and love to use it to go on about 300k immigrants + 200k emigrants= net change of 500k! OMFG!!!!
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 24, 2011, 05:40:31 PM
I noticed we are getting Gordon Ramsay. The lack of profanity on American television has been addressed.
Our major triumph in this sort of thing was getting rid of Piers Morgan. There was talk about Jonathan Ross moving to the States as well, but that seems to have fallen through :(
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 24, 2011, 05:46:39 PM
Our major triumph in this sort of thing was getting rid of Piers Morgan. There was talk about Jonathan Ross moving to the States as well, but that seems to have fallen through :(
Dude has one BIG fucking head. The hattiers of England must have wept at his departure.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 24, 2011, 05:46:39 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 24, 2011, 05:40:31 PM
I noticed we are getting Gordon Ramsay. The lack of profanity on American television has been addressed.
Our major triumph in this sort of thing was getting rid of Piers Morgan. There was talk about Jonathan Ross moving to the States as well, but that seems to have fallen through :(
Please take Piers Morgan and Martin Bashir back.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 24, 2011, 05:23:35 PM
There can be few people worse than the British for turning up in other people's countries.
Just ask the Powhatan.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 24, 2011, 05:23:35 PMApparently 10% of the population is living abroad as we speak. If many more Brits move to LA it will become our second city after London :D
I now hope that Croatia does not join the EU, specifically because I do not want the Dalmatian coast flooded by Brit holiday homes and retirees.
I think the Germans are probably the biggest risk for the Dalmatian coast; though they are probably less annoying than their British equivalents :hmm:
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 25, 2011, 05:44:18 AM
I think the Germans are probably the biggest risk for the Dalmatian coast; though they are probably less annoying than their British equivalents :hmm:
They're already there. When my parents travelled down the Dalmatian coast a couple of years ago they said that in the touristic spots (particulary in Dubrovnik) German was the language of choice for shops and restaurants wanting to atract customers, and more prevalent than English and Croatian combined.
There were a lot of Germans in Venice when I was there. Sadly, Dr. Elsa Schneider was nowhere to be found. :(