Flying to Nawlins this AM, coming back tomorrow.
It's already in the low 80s down there. Fucking South and its heat bullshit. No wonder everyone's so fucking slow down there.
Nothing wrong with temps in the low 80s. :)
One day business trip? Ick. :yuk:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 22, 2011, 03:35:35 AM
Nothing wrong with temps in the low 80s. :)
:yes:
I wanted to turn the AC on last night, but Princesca wouldn't let me. :mad:
Quote from: Caliga on March 22, 2011, 04:08:10 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 22, 2011, 03:35:35 AM
Nothing wrong with temps in the low 80s. :)
:yes:
I wanted to turn the AC on last night, but Princesca wouldn't let me. :mad:
Fuck that i have windows open till 30f.
Well that's what we ended up doing.
Here, it snowed yesterday.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 22, 2011, 03:33:00 AM
Flying to Nawlins this AM, coming back tomorrow.
It's already in the low 80s down there. Fucking South and its heat bullshit. No wonder everyone's so fucking slow down there.
Good luck with the heat rash.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 22, 2011, 03:33:00 AM
Flying to Nawlins this AM, coming back tomorrow.
It's already in the low 80s down there. Fucking South and its heat bullshit. No wonder everyone's so fucking slow down there.
Once I was explaining a data center deployment schedule to a guy in Little Rock, and I tend to talk quickly. And walk quickly for that matter. Anyhow, I'm running through the details with this dude and he stops me mid sentence and says,"Son, you're in the South now. You gotta slow down."
:P
I used to get that all the time when I first moved down here. :lol:
on another note, this thread does not even remotely remind me of this cartoon:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 22, 2011, 03:33:00 AM
Flying to Nawlins this AM, coming back tomorrow.
It's already in the low 80s down there. Fucking South and its heat bullshit. No wonder everyone's so fucking slow down there.
Just be glad you're not going down during the summer. Makes that place smell even nastier.
Quote from: Caliga on March 22, 2011, 04:08:10 AM
I wanted to turn the AC on last night, but Princesca wouldn't let me. :mad:
I was tempted last night but turning on the fan & opening a couple windows did the trick.
Ugh, New Orleans.
I've never been told I was doing anything too fast, but I _have_ noticed yankees doing so.
Maybe y'all should slow down.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2011, 12:06:47 PM
Ugh, New Orleans.
I enjoyed visiting, but you'd have to have a screw loose to actually want to live there.
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 22, 2011, 12:16:35 PM
I've never been told I was doing anything too fast, but I _have_ noticed yankees doing so.
Maybe y'all should slow down.
Lettow,
Please allow me to serve as the voice of the south. When a fucktard takes up the southern cause, it only reinforces stereotypes about uneducated racists whose parents were likely simultaneously both brother and sister and first cousins. Everone knows that these stereotypes are far more true of people from ohio and west virginia than southeasterners.
PLJ
Heck, most northerner are too slow for my taste. I hate it down here.
Quote from: Rasputin on March 22, 2011, 02:08:37 PM
Lettow,
Please allow me to serve as the voice of the south. When a fucktard takes up the southern cause, it only reinforces stereotypes about uneducated racists whose parents were likely simultaneously both brother and sister and first cousins. Everone knows that these stereotypes are far more true of people from ohio and west virginia than southeasterners.
PLJ
I'm surprised at you. I don't see any negative stereotypes being bandied about here. While it is true that many of the unpleasant things frequently attributed to the South better fit mountain folk, who for the most part turned out against our glorious civilization in the moment of our great trial, it is no secret that the South has a slower pace of life, and that this is a good thing. In that regard we emulate the French, another pinnacle of civilization. Atlanta moves quickly, I suppose, but it has become an unpleasant place that stirs with a dark magnetism, a festering place built in the northern image.
What is the Southern "cause" to you, rasputin? Why should you be the voice of the South, as you call it?
But finally, southeasterner is a terrible term, as is southeast. It implies South may as well be a geographical term and not a proper noun, a subsection of a greater entity. Next i'll have to hear that Colorado is rightfully the South too, falling under a geographical category. It impairs our sacred distinctiveness to refer to us as the southeast, for we are the South, which is a unique place irrespective of relative direction but rather occupying a specific spread of territory in north america.
QuoteAtlanta moves quickly, I suppose, but it has become an unpleasant place that stirs with a dark magnetism, a festering place built in the northern image.
My universal Lettow translator sez:
DARKIES!
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 22, 2011, 04:31:13 PM
Quote from: Rasputin on March 22, 2011, 02:08:37 PM
Lettow,
Please allow me to serve as the voice of the south. When a fucktard takes up the southern cause, it only reinforces stereotypes about uneducated racists whose parents were likely simultaneously both brother and sister and first cousins. Everone knows that these stereotypes are far more true of people from ohio and west virginia than southeasterners.
PLJ
...In that regard we emulate the French, another pinnacle of civilization. ...
and the state rests
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2011, 04:53:26 PM
QuoteAtlanta moves quickly, I suppose, but it has become an unpleasant place that stirs with a dark magnetism, a festering place built in the northern image.
My universal Lettow translator sez:
DARKIES!
Atlanta moves quickly, eh? Guess he's never tried to drive there. :bleeding:
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2011, 04:53:26 PM
My universal Lettow translator sez:
DARKIES!
Shows what you know- my beautiful river city yields to no man with regards to the darkies, but we have a pretty leisurely existence even so.
Memphis's black community is lovely. Oh, NOON :wub:
I can't believe 5 of you idiots are facebook friends with him :lol:
Quote from: Caliga on March 22, 2011, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2011, 12:06:47 PM
Ugh, New Orleans.
I enjoyed visiting, but you'd have to have a screw loose to actually want to live there.
Color me screwloose. New Orleans is great.
Yeah Nawlins is only city in South I'd be willing to move to.
Ok, I'm now convinced katmai is my doppelganger. :)
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2011, 04:53:26 PM
QuoteAtlanta moves quickly, I suppose, but it has become an unpleasant place that stirs with a dark magnetism, a festering place built in the northern image.
My universal Lettow translator sez:
DARKIES!
Actually, Atlanta is slowly becoming a white city again.
A lot of cities are becoming paler.
Whitey is moving in, Leroy is moving out.
Quote from: JonasSalk on March 22, 2011, 07:09:31 PM
Actually, Atlanta is slowly becoming a white city again.
Gwinnett County is all the colors of the rainbow.
Atlanta is becoming a white city, yes, but it a bad thing. It is just yankee colonization. Lewis Grizzard was right to fear it.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2011, 07:10:31 PM
A lot of cities are becoming paler.
Whitey is moving in, Leroy is moving out.
The white tide will stop in probably about 10-15 years as more brown ppl move to America. The trend is already showing, since the census figures show that slightly under 50% of children under 5 are white. America: the new Brazil, minus the ridiculous crime and carnivals.
Alack, I will be in glorious jacktown tomorrow, so I cannot properly welcome DeMoney to the glorious Swamptown.
Quote from: JonasSalk on March 22, 2011, 08:11:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2011, 07:10:31 PM
A lot of cities are becoming paler.
Whitey is moving in, Leroy is moving out.
The white tide will stop in probably about 10-15 years as more brown ppl move to America. The trend is already showing, since the census figures show that slightly under 50% of children under 5 are white. America: the new Brazil, minus the ridiculous crime and carnivals.
Only because Hispanic is the new WOP. Once the Census drops that ridiculous category, the whiteness of the country will magically increase back close to historical norms.
Most American hispanics are multi-racial.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 22, 2011, 09:32:34 PM
Most American hispanics are multi-racial.
White and native American maybe. A little native blood was never seen as that big of an impediment, and it certainly isn't now.
Quote from: JonasSalk on March 22, 2011, 08:11:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 22, 2011, 07:10:31 PM
A lot of cities are becoming paler.
Whitey is moving in, Leroy is moving out.
The white tide will stop in probably about 10-15 years as more brown ppl move to America. The trend is already showing, since the census figures show that slightly under 50% of children under 5 are white. America: the new Brazil, minus the ridiculous crime and carnivals.
Sounds hott.
Its been 90+ the last three day here. :(
White supremacy Tim is odd.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 22, 2011, 11:35:12 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 22, 2011, 09:32:34 PM
Most American hispanics are multi-racial.
White and native American maybe. A little native blood was never seen as that big of an impediment, and it certainly isn't now.
Actually, it was. Prior to 40-50 years ago, being part American Indian was seen as shameful and disgusting by many. People attempted to hide it at all costs. This is why you see such a dramatic explosion in the people American Indian ancestry on the census today--it's less taboo to do so. If you look at the censuses from, say, 1970 to 1990, the people who declared themselves "white" at age 20 or so in 1970 now often declare themselves "American Indian" for various reasons at age 40 in 1990. Nowadays, it's become fashionable for people to declare--falsely and without any evidence--that they have a "full-blooded" American Indian ancestor (almost always Cherokee for some reason) and be proud of that fact. Ask them to prove it and they will only say "family stories" or some other BS excuse like that.
This isn't to say a lot of American white people don't have American Indian ancestry--genetic tests say about 1/4th or so do--just that a lot of people declare it for various reason to seem "cool" for whatever reason. Supposedly my family has some American Indian ancestry, but it's never been proven to me. Maybe I'll take one of those $100-300 genetic tests sometime and see.
Quote from: JonasSalk on March 23, 2011, 10:18:25 AM
Nowadays, it's become fashionable for people to declare--falsely and without any evidence--that they have a "full-blooded" American Indian ancestor (almost always Cherokee for some reason) and be proud of that fact. Ask them to prove it and they will only say "family stories" or some other BS excuse like that.
:shifty:
Best Exemple : Fireblade. It's total BS.
Quote from: Caliga on March 23, 2011, 10:23:29 AM
Quote from: JonasSalk on March 23, 2011, 10:18:25 AM
Nowadays, it's become fashionable for people to declare--falsely and without any evidence--that they have a "full-blooded" American Indian ancestor (almost always Cherokee for some reason) and be proud of that fact. Ask them to prove it and they will only say "family stories" or some other BS excuse like that.
:shifty:
I think that I'm also descended from American Indians, through the Italian Cherokee tribe, in Calabria. ;)
"How, you like-a somea deerskin, eh?"
Fucking south is one of my favourite sexual orientations.
Quote from: Maximus on March 23, 2011, 12:16:56 PM
Fucking south is one of my favourite sexual orientations.
:hmm: Diagram plz?
Quote from: JonasSalk on March 23, 2011, 10:18:25 AM
This isn't to say a lot of American white people don't have American Indian ancestry--genetic tests say about 1/4th or so do--just that a lot of people declare it for various reason to seem "cool" for whatever reason.
I'd be interested to know why there is a coolness factor in inflating whatever Indian ancestry you may or may not have. I wouldn't look down on someone for having some Indian ancestry & I wouldn't be ashamed of it if I had some, but I also wouldn't particularly derive any pride from it, either.
It makes them seem "different," less European and more American. They get to claim victimhood, claim ancestry, and through that claim sympathy with the poor, poor Worst Nations and their reservations. It comes up in casual conversation all the time. "What kind of name is that?" "Oh, it's Scottish, but my grandmother [it's almost never a male, for some reason] was full-blooded [this part is said with a particular ounce of pride] Cherokee."
I guess saying your great-great-grandmother was a half-breed Indian squaw whose mother was raped by a white man doesn't quite have the "cool" factor to it.
Quote from: derspiess on March 23, 2011, 12:39:11 PM
Quote from: JonasSalk on March 23, 2011, 10:18:25 AM
This isn't to say a lot of American white people don't have American Indian ancestry--genetic tests say about 1/4th or so do--just that a lot of people declare it for various reason to seem "cool" for whatever reason.
I'd be interested to know why there is a coolness factor in inflating whatever Indian ancestry you may or may not have. I wouldn't look down on someone for having some Indian ancestry & I wouldn't be ashamed of it if I had some, but I also wouldn't particularly derive any pride from it, either.
Well up here, where native ancestry is going to be more direct than 'my grandmother was on eighth Cherokee' people who look very white to me are very quick to say they have Status and are Native. They don't break it down to being 1/8 or whatever - it's kind of a one drop rule I guess.
But you have to remember Indian Status can come with certain benefits...
Exactly. Some people claim it so they can get a handout.
Quote from: JonasSalk on March 23, 2011, 12:54:55 PM
It makes them seem "different," less European and more American. They get to claim victimhood, claim ancestry, and through that claim sympathy with the poor, poor Worst Nations and their reservations. It comes up in casual conversation all the time. "What kind of name is that?" "Oh, it's Scottish, but my grandmother [it's almost never a male, for some reason] was full-blooded [this part is said with a particular ounce of pride] Cherokee."
I guess saying your great-great-grandmother was a half-breed Indian squaw whose mother was raped by a white man doesn't quite have the "cool" factor to it.
Good point-- it does always seem to be a grandmother. Just about everyone I knew in West Virginia claimed some sort of Indian heritage-- usually Shawnee or Blackfoot in addition to Cherokee. Particularly for those who were even paler than I was, I wondered why they thought it had any impact on their own lives, assuming it was even true.
I just never got the temptation to claim any kind of Indian heritage, but I guess Indian culture never quite appealed to me the way it does to others.
Quote from: derspiess on March 23, 2011, 03:58:02 PM
Quote from: JonasSalk on March 23, 2011, 12:54:55 PM
It makes them seem "different," less European and more American. They get to claim victimhood, claim ancestry, and through that claim sympathy with the poor, poor Worst Nations and their reservations. It comes up in casual conversation all the time. "What kind of name is that?" "Oh, it's Scottish, but my grandmother [it's almost never a male, for some reason] was full-blooded [this part is said with a particular ounce of pride] Cherokee."
I guess saying your great-great-grandmother was a half-breed Indian squaw whose mother was raped by a white man doesn't quite have the "cool" factor to it.
Good point-- it does always seem to be a grandmother. Just about everyone I knew in West Virginia claimed some sort of Indian heritage-- usually Shawnee or Blackfoot in addition to Cherokee. Particularly for those who were even paler than I was, I wondered why they thought it had any impact on their own lives, assuming it was even true.
Odd, I didn't know but a few people there who claimed Indian ancestory. One of the few is the woman who married my mom's youngest brother, but she's from eastern Tennessee (which is a pretty good place to be from if you want to claim Cherokee ancestory), not WV. And she definately isn't light-skinned--she has a quite dark complexion. My mom thinks that her family doesn't actually have Cherokee blood, but rather has some black ancestory. Personally, I met both of my aunt's parents, and I'll buy that her father was half-Cherokee. But if you're looking for a reason for people to falsely claim Indian ancestory, there's one--some would rather claim to be Native American than black.
As for why it's almost always claimed through a grandmother, rather than a grandfather, think about it. A white man back in the day could marry an Indian woman without causing too much trouble for himself, but an Indian man marrying a white woman? Almost as likely to get himself lynched as a black man marrying a white woman.
I couldn't find a single "Benjamin Butler 4 Mayor" t-shirt down there.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 23, 2011, 08:33:09 PM
I couldn't find a single "Benjamin Butler 4 Mayor" t-shirt down there.
Pity. I grew up in his home town and believe he could have saved Reconstruction.
Quote from: derspiess on March 23, 2011, 03:58:02 PM
Quote from: JonasSalk on March 23, 2011, 12:54:55 PM
It makes them seem "different," less European and more American. They get to claim victimhood, claim ancestry, and through that claim sympathy with the poor, poor Worst Nations and their reservations. It comes up in casual conversation all the time. "What kind of name is that?" "Oh, it's Scottish, but my grandmother [it's almost never a male, for some reason] was full-blooded [this part is said with a particular ounce of pride] Cherokee."
I guess saying your great-great-grandmother was a half-breed Indian squaw whose mother was raped by a white man doesn't quite have the "cool" factor to it.
Good point-- it does always seem to be a grandmother. Just about everyone I knew in West Virginia claimed some sort of Indian heritage-- usually Shawnee or Blackfoot in addition to Cherokee. Particularly for those who were even paler than I was, I wondered why they thought it had any impact on their own lives, assuming it was even true.
I just never got the temptation to claim any kind of Indian heritage, but I guess Indian culture never quite appealed to me the way it does to others.
Way back when it was quasi-acceptable for a man to take a native wife/mistress/country-wife, but of course you had to protect the white women-folk...
Quote from: garbon on March 23, 2011, 07:45:11 AM
White supremacy Tim is odd.
:rolleyes:
Just bitching about the Census. Hispanic is a bullshit statistic that throws together 20 different nationalities, at least 3 different races, and dozens of elasticities. It's completely misrepresents who the Spanish speaking people (and their descendants) of the US are.
By the way, my the grandmother of my Quebecois grandfather was full blooded Huron. My mother saw her when she was young and ''she had hair like silk''. My father's a bit darker than me and his father was a bit darker then him so I assume there's some native or maybe even some African blood in that line a few generations further back.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 23, 2011, 11:14:25 PM
throws together 20 different nationalities
Which of course never happens with other "race" options.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 23, 2011, 11:14:25 PM
at least 3 different races
Can't really find the energy to be bent out of shape over arbitrarily defined "race" categories.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 23, 2011, 11:14:25 PM
and dozens of elasticities.
Now you've lost me.
Good luck getting coherent argument out of Ortiz.
Quote from: dps on March 23, 2011, 06:13:14 PM
Odd, I didn't know but a few people there who claimed Indian ancestory. One of the few is the woman who married my mom's youngest brother, but she's from eastern Tennessee (which is a pretty good place to be from if you want to claim Cherokee ancestory), not WV. And she definately isn't light-skinned--she has a quite dark complexion. My mom thinks that her family doesn't actually have Cherokee blood, but rather has some black ancestory. Personally, I met both of my aunt's parents, and I'll buy that her father was half-Cherokee. But if you're looking for a reason for people to falsely claim Indian ancestory, there's one--some would rather claim to be Native American than black.
I believe there is something to this, and in fact have made jokes that Princesca's great grandmother really belonged to the Mandingo tribe. :cool:
In her case, her nose is most certainly not 'European'... much too flat. But it could be a reflection of hidden African ancestry.
In any event, if I were her, I'd be proud either way, since it's neat to be multi-racial. Hybrid vigor FTW. :cool:
I'm sure there is a drop of injun blood in me, as my ancestors really liked to fuck indians in Tennessee. Literall. Not trade 1 bead for a swath of land, I mean poundtown.
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 23, 2011, 10:53:34 AM
Best Exemple : Fireblade. It's total BS.
Asshole, it is not BS. :rolleyes: