I've been thinking about Turkey a lot-
what an interesting place
after being gripped in a malaise so long, it convulses with nationalist fervor
and the eastern half languishes in a sort of demi-twentieth century while islamic fundamentalism creeps in power
it is a land of tea, cats, and gloominess
I would wish to see it, only, i'd be intruding in their beautiful world
I am a westerner and have no business there
The idea of a quaint and ill-defined turanic union, stretching from Hungary to Japan, appeals to me.
It bothers me that Algeria was lost to France. I feel a great disservice was done to the native Algerians and the pied noirs as well, and that the French people sold out their fellow countrymen because defending them became an unwelcome liability. It is shameful, and I think France would be better had Algeria been integrated with the settlers as the bedrock.
Along with the unhappy way things have developed in South Africa, it serves to make Africa a worse place. I regret that the mission of civilization in that place, to which I find my thoughts drawn, has been so delayed, disrupted and ruinous to those who attempt it.
This thread is Mew-riffic.
I hate the dark meat.
If Lettuce were a comedian he would be Jerry Mewis. If he were a baseball team he would be the Milwaukee Mewers.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 16, 2011, 06:12:01 PM
If Lettuce were a comedian he would be Jerry Mewis. If he were a baseball team he would be the Milwaukee Mewers.
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QuoteIt bothers me that Algeria was lost to France. I feel a great disservice was done to the native Algerians and the pied noirs as well, and that the French people sold out their fellow countrymen because defending them became an unwelcome liability. It is shameful, and I think France would be better had Algeria been integrated with the settlers as the bedrock.
:huh:
Aren't you Mr 'All secessionist movements are good!'
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 16, 2011, 06:12:01 PM
If Lettuce were a comedian he would be Jerry Mewis. If he were a baseball team he would be the Milwaukee Mewers.
I think my sperm died from those jokes.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 16, 2011, 06:18:13 PM
I think my sperm died from those jokes.
Tell your sperm to rub some dirt on it and get back in the game.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 16, 2011, 06:21:00 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 16, 2011, 06:18:13 PM
I think my sperm died from those jokes.
Tell your sperm to rub some dirt on it and get back in the game.
:lol:
Corso'ed. :weep:
Quote from: Tyr on March 16, 2011, 06:15:42 PM
QuoteIt bothers me that Algeria was lost to France. I feel a great disservice was done to the native Algerians and the pied noirs as well, and that the French people sold out their fellow countrymen because defending them became an unwelcome liability. It is shameful, and I think France would be better had Algeria been integrated with the settlers as the bedrock.
:huh:
Aren't you Mr 'All secessionist movements are good!'
Secession from France is good for Brittany or the Occitans. To see civilization go into darkness and north africa become a savage place again is a tragedy. And in general, I take a dim view of the decline of French power. France is the South's good friend, and we are kindred spirits. They also are the vanguard of the Celts in continental Europe.
I usually only think about turkey at Thanksgiving.
I couldn't be bothered to actually read the thread, so if that joke's already been made, tough.
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 16, 2011, 06:23:50 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 16, 2011, 06:15:42 PM
QuoteIt bothers me that Algeria was lost to France. I feel a great disservice was done to the native Algerians and the pied noirs as well, and that the French people sold out their fellow countrymen because defending them became an unwelcome liability. It is shameful, and I think France would be better had Algeria been integrated with the settlers as the bedrock.
:huh:
Aren't you Mr 'All secessionist movements are good!'
Secession from France is good for Brittany or the Occitans. To see civilization go into darkness and north africa become a savage place again is a tragedy. And in general, I take a dim view of the decline of French power. France is the South's good friend, and we are kindred spirits. They also are the vanguard of the Celts in continental Europe.
Algeria under the French was pretty damn savage already. The French did not exactly rule with a light touch.
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Quote from: Tyr on March 16, 2011, 06:15:42 PM
QuoteIt bothers me that Algeria was lost to France. I feel a great disservice was done to the native Algerians and the pied noirs as well, and that the French people sold out their fellow countrymen because defending them became an unwelcome liability. It is shameful, and I think France would be better had Algeria been integrated with the settlers as the bedrock.
:huh:
Aren't you Mr 'All secessionist movements are good!'
His empire spanning from Hungary to Japan seems to fly in the face of that as well.
Empire? You'd ruin it! quaint and ill-defined union! It would be looser, even, than a confederacy.
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 16, 2011, 06:45:21 PM
Empire? You'd ruin it! quaint and ill-defined union! It would be looser, even, than a confederacy.
So, a series of nation-states with little-to-no connection or influence over one-another's internal governance and each with an independent foreign policy/military? :hmm:
They could all play in the Turanic Games. There's that excellent sport with the sheep's head for one.
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 16, 2011, 06:05:11 PM
I am a westerner and have no business there
As a Westerner, you have business anywhere and everywhere. The world is yours, mang.
Quote from: Habbaku on March 16, 2011, 07:02:35 PM
So, a series of nation-states with little-to-no connection or influence over one-another's internal governance and each with an independent foreign policy/military? :hmm:
They could have poetry associations, economic partnerships, and a high level of cultural/student exchanges, with easy travel between them.
Quotepoetry associations
Sounds like a confederacy of gay.
Unyuu~
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 16, 2011, 06:23:50 PM
Secession from France is good for Brittany or the Occitans. To see civilization go into darkness and north africa become a savage place again is a tragedy. And in general, I take a dim view of the decline of French power. France is the South's good friend, and we are kindred spirits. They also are the vanguard of the Celts in continental Europe.
The Vanguard of the Celts in Europe? :huh:
The French are not Celts...they've historically been quite the major enemies of the celts actually. Practically wiping out the Bretons, conquering Wales and Ireland, the auld alliance with the lowland Scots.
Quote from: Tyr on March 16, 2011, 10:00:18 PM
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 16, 2011, 06:23:50 PM
Secession from France is good for Brittany or the Occitans. To see civilization go into darkness and north africa become a savage place again is a tragedy. And in general, I take a dim view of the decline of French power. France is the South's good friend, and we are kindred spirits. They also are the vanguard of the Celts in continental Europe.
The Vanguard of the Celts in Europe? :huh:
The French are not Celts...they've historically been quite the major enemies of the celts actually. Practically wiping out the Bretons, conquering Wales and Ireland, the auld alliance with the lowland Scots.
They are just as much Celts as the Bretons, Welsh, and Irish. As in they are distantly descended from Celts and lots of other things.
Quote from: Caliga on March 16, 2011, 07:09:42 PM
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 16, 2011, 06:05:11 PM
I am a westerner and have no business there
As a Westerner, you have business anywhere and everywhere. The world is yours, mang.
Wasn't he a Southener?
It's good that the North (i.e. Western civilization) had more balls than France and insisted on civilizing the barbaric South even in the face of the civil war. Abolition act, civil rights act (and deploying the national guard to protect it) etc. are all aspects of this.
Quote from: Tyr on March 16, 2011, 10:00:18 PM
The Vanguard of the Celts in Europe? :huh:
The French are not Celts...they've historically been quite the major enemies of the celts actually. Practically wiping out the Bretons, conquering Wales and Ireland, the auld alliance with the lowland Scots.
Gauls are Celts - haven't you read Asterix?
Quote from: Martinus on March 17, 2011, 02:30:28 AM
It's good that the North (i.e. Western civilization) had more balls than France and insisted on civilizing the barbaric South even in the face of the civil war. Abolition act, civil rights act (and deploying the national guard to protect it) etc. are all aspects of this.
Ok, lets roll with this. The French were pretty brutal during the Algerian war, how much more brutal should they have been? Should they have mobilized for total war? How much would be too much?
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 16, 2011, 08:44:02 PM
Unyuu~
Did he just break or something? If so, I claim credit for breaking him.
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 16, 2011, 06:05:11 PM
I've been thinking about Turkey a lot-
what an interesting place
after being gripped in a malaise so long, it convulses with nationalist fervor
and the eastern half languishes in a sort of demi-twentieth century while islamic fundamentalism creeps in power
it is a land of tea, cats, and gloominess
I would wish to see it, only, i'd be intruding in their beautiful world
I am a westerner and have no business there
The idea of a quaint and ill-defined turanic union, stretching from Hungary to Japan, appeals to me.
It bothers me that Algeria was lost to France. I feel a great disservice was done to the native Algerians and the pied noirs as well, and that the French people sold out their fellow countrymen because defending them became an unwelcome liability. It is shameful, and I think France would be better had Algeria been integrated with the settlers as the bedrock.
Along with the unhappy way things have developed in South Africa, it serves to make Africa a worse place. I regret that the mission of civilization in that place, to which I find my thoughts drawn, has been so delayed, disrupted and ruinous to those who attempt it.
A public turanic union?
Quote from: The Brain on March 17, 2011, 09:38:56 AM
A public turanic union?
That can only lead to Turanny of the Majority. Plato criticizes this form of government in The Republic.
I'm Hungary for Turkey.
Quote from: derspiess on March 17, 2011, 10:41:42 AM
I'm Hungary for Turkey.
Hungarians didn't like Turkey - except roasting on a pale.
The French are more Celtic than we are, we're more related to the Basques than the Celts.
Quote from: PJL on March 17, 2011, 04:47:33 PM
The French are more Celtic than we are, we're more related to the Basques than the Celts.
Who're we?
Genetics generally doesn't come into it thoughas Valmy says everyone is a mishmash, Celt is only valid as a cultural thing.