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Title: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: Valmy on March 11, 2011, 05:50:48 PM
The glorious French Republic expands.

QuoteComoran island Mayotte is now a French department

afrol News, 3 March - Despite strong protests from the government of Comoros, the island of Mayotte has officially become the 101st department of France; or an integral part of the French territory.

Mayotte is a part of the Comoran archipelago in the Indian Ocean, with Comoran language and culture being the dominant on the island. But as Comoros gained independence from France in 1996, the population of Mayotte voted in favour of staying a French colony.

Since then, Comoros has slipped from one political crisis to another, also plagued by a weak economic development. The ongoing stream of "illegal migrants" risking their lives crossing the seas from Comoros to Mayotte illustrates the different developments. This has convinced the population of Mayotte that the choice of staying French was right.

A referendum in 2008 in Mayotte gave citizens the choice of closer or looser ties with the French republic. A large majority, over 95 percent, in the "overseas territory" - as it then was called - voted in favour of becoming an integrated part of France.

Consequently, on 1 March, Mayotte was made the 101st department of France; in line with other departments in mainland France.

In neighbouring Comoros, the step is highly controversial. The government of Comoros since independence has claimed that Mayotte is part of the Comoran territory, and it is given right by the African Union and partially by the UN.

In a strong-worded statement, outgoing Comoran President Abdallah Sambi spoke of the "French occupation of Mayotte," announcing that Comoros would take legal steps to prove the island was part of its territory. Government would call for international arbitration or an international court decision to seek the return of its territory, he announced.

The Mahorais - inhabitants of Mayotte - however clearly do not want any interference from their Comoran neighbours. The 186,500 islanders rather focus on getting the full rights of their French citizenship, including social services and the right to reach an equal level of economic development as mainland France.

The larger island of Réunion, located close to Mauritius, still remains an "overseas department", with a somewhat higher degree of autonomy but also more responsibilities for its own economic and social policies. Réunion, with around 800,000 inhabitants, is culturally much closer to France than Mayotte, due to a large French settler population.
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: Josquius on March 11, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
France is stupid. Surely these overseas departments can only be net drains?
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 11, 2011, 06:33:27 PM
They make convenient places to put a naval base without worrying about all that troublesome diplomacy.
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 11, 2011, 06:44:33 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 11, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
France is stupid. Surely these overseas departments can only be net drains?


Algeria
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: Ideologue on March 11, 2011, 06:45:13 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 11, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
France is stupid. Surely these overseas departments can only be net drains?

Probably, but it's part of the civilizing mission. :bowler:
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: Viking on March 11, 2011, 06:49:24 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 11, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
France is stupid. Surely these overseas departments can only be net drains?

The French soccer team needs quality players.
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on March 11, 2011, 10:00:24 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 11, 2011, 06:44:33 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 11, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
France is stupid. Surely these overseas departments can only be net drains?


Algeria

:yes:
They console themselves with what they have.
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 11, 2011, 10:18:00 PM
That title is such an obvious troll for Slargos.
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: Zoupa on March 11, 2011, 10:46:43 PM
France would be better off today if Algeria had stayed a part of France. Not to mention that their secession was unconstitutionnal.
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: Sheilbh on March 12, 2011, 05:46:51 AM
Quote from: Tyr on March 11, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
France is stupid. Surely these overseas departments can only be net drains?
They're also the dream job for civil servants.  French civil servants get a massive boost to their salary when they're posted to a tropical island to enable them to live the lifestyle they're accustomed to in France - which, of course, means importing French goods at large cost :mmm:

Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: Duque de Bragança on March 12, 2011, 08:25:12 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on March 11, 2011, 10:46:43 PM
Algeria would be better off today if Algeria had stayed a part of France. Not to mention that their secession was unconstitutionnal.

Fixed it for you :)
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: Josquius on March 12, 2011, 08:33:18 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 12, 2011, 05:46:51 AM
Quote from: Tyr on March 11, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
France is stupid. Surely these overseas departments can only be net drains?
They're also the dream job for civil servants.  French civil servants get a massive boost to their salary when they're posted to a tropical island to enable them to live the lifestyle they're accustomed to in France - which, of course, means importing French goods at large cost :mmm:


How wonderfully Victorian.
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 12, 2011, 09:02:51 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on March 12, 2011, 08:25:12 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on March 11, 2011, 10:46:43 PM
Algeria would be better off today if Algeria had stayed a part of France. Not to mention that their secession was unconstitutionnal.

Fixed it for you :)
I got to agree with that.
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: Grey Fox on March 12, 2011, 10:59:28 AM
Vive la France!

Vive la Corse libre!
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: Neil on March 12, 2011, 11:05:14 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on March 11, 2011, 10:46:43 PM
France would be better off today if Algeria had stayed a part of France. Not to mention that their secession was unconstitutionnal.
Maybe, but what can you do?  Was France going to indefinitely fight an insurgency in Algeria?
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 12, 2011, 11:30:14 AM
Quote from: Neil on March 12, 2011, 11:05:14 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on March 11, 2011, 10:46:43 PM
France would be better off today if Algeria had stayed a part of France. Not to mention that their secession was unconstitutionnal.
Maybe, but what can you do?  Was France going to indefinitely fight an insurgency in Algeria?
Surely under you they would have nuked the natives into submission. All they need was a whiff of plutonium.
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: Valmy on March 12, 2011, 06:58:14 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 12, 2011, 10:59:28 AM
Vive la Corse libre profiter d'etre Francais!

I presume this is what you meant?
Title: Re: 186,000 African muslims become French
Post by: Neil on March 13, 2011, 10:25:16 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 12, 2011, 11:30:14 AM
Quote from: Neil on March 12, 2011, 11:05:14 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on March 11, 2011, 10:46:43 PM
France would be better off today if Algeria had stayed a part of France. Not to mention that their secession was unconstitutionnal.
Maybe, but what can you do?  Was France going to indefinitely fight an insurgency in Algeria?
Surely under you they would have nuked the natives into submission. All they need was a whiff of plutonium.
Nukes aren't very effective against decentralized tribes.