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Title: Testing Firefox
Post by: lustindarkness on March 07, 2011, 12:09:51 PM
OK nerds, I left my comfort zone and I'm trying Mozilla Firefox again for the first time in like 10 years, works fine up to now (3-5 minutes of use) any settings or addons recommended? Thank you.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: derspiess on March 07, 2011, 12:30:59 PM
I always used Forecastfox as a nice little weather plugin. I dabbled with others but that was the only one I used consistently.  I got a little fed up with Firefox running slow & doing a crappy job with flash video, so I ditched it for Chrome & haven't looked back. 

Chrome is much faster and automatically syncs my favorites & browsing history between my work PC, laptop, and main PC at home.  I can also send links to my Android phone with one click, and supposedly allows for remote printing from my phone though I haven't tried that yet.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Caliga on March 07, 2011, 12:42:32 PM
@lusti

Are you testing the new Firefox beta?  I'm running that on my home PC.  I think I like it better (still getting used to all the interface changes), but it does this annoying thing where it blows my hard drive up with activity once ever 2-3 minutes for like 3 seconds... like it's dumping the cache from memory to disk or something.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: lustindarkness on March 07, 2011, 12:53:19 PM
Not the new beta, v 3.6.15. I plan on trying Chrome also. The wifi here in Kuwait is so crappy, I wanted to see if firefox was a bit better, with adblock it seems to work a little better with some pages, but also seems to time out a bit to quick when a page does not load fast enough, may have to play with it a bit more.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Barrister on March 07, 2011, 12:58:10 PM
Give Safari a try.   :)
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on March 07, 2011, 01:23:04 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 07, 2011, 12:30:59 PM
I always used Forecastfox as a nice little weather plugin. I dabbled with others but that was the only one I used consistently.  I got a little fed up with Firefox running slow & doing a crappy job with flash video, so I ditched it for Chrome & haven't looked back. 

Chrome is much faster and automatically syncs my favorites & browsing history between my work PC, laptop, and main PC at home.  I can also send links to my Android phone with one click, and supposedly allows for remote printing from my phone though I haven't tried that yet.

This. 

QuoteGive Safari a try.   

Not this.

One thing that irritates me way more than it should about chrome though, is that when I scroll up using the middle mouse button, I have to be careful not to release the MMB with the pointer over any sort of links at all.  It treats the release as a click, so opens a new tab with whatever fucking link I happened to be hovering over (usually, it's one of those bigass top of page type things).  I don't know how to make it stop doing this.

Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Grey Fox on March 07, 2011, 01:26:06 PM
IE8 does that too. I got use to it.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: viper37 on March 07, 2011, 01:47:00 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 07, 2011, 12:42:32 PM
but it does this annoying thing where it blows my hard drive up with activity once ever 2-3 minutes for like 3 seconds... like it's dumping the cache from memory to disk or something.
ah! I'm not the only one!

I uninstalled FF 4.0 due to that :(
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Caliga on March 07, 2011, 02:13:57 PM
I may well roll it back for the same reason.  But I'll be sure to leave a scathing rant on the "Firefox makes me sad because..." thing first. :)
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Lucidor on March 07, 2011, 03:36:30 PM
Fire Gestures is a great addon. Mouse gestures simplifies everything.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: citizen k on March 07, 2011, 03:40:14 PM
I use the Adblock Plus add-on.

Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: viper37 on March 07, 2011, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 07, 2011, 12:09:51 PM
OK nerds, I left my comfort zone and I'm trying Mozilla Firefox again for the first time in like 10 years, works fine up to now (3-5 minutes of use) any settings or addons recommended? Thank you.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Ed Anger on March 07, 2011, 07:59:04 PM
Quote from: jamesww on March 07, 2011, 07:29:46 PM
Quote from: viper37 on March 07, 2011, 05:16:41 PM
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Downloadhelper - download Youtube videos
....

This is highly useful.

The Ant Video Downloader also lets you download videos. Especially from those naughty tube sites.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: derspiess on March 07, 2011, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 07, 2011, 12:58:10 PM
Give Safari a try.   :)

Safari for Windows is still a turd, from what I hear.  If you're going to evangelize Apple products, at least try to focus on the good ones.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: lustindarkness on March 08, 2011, 03:08:57 AM
Quote from: viper37 on March 07, 2011, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 07, 2011, 12:09:51 PM
OK nerds, I left my comfort zone and I'm trying Mozilla Firefox again for the first time in like 10 years, works fine up to now (3-5 minutes of use) any settings or addons recommended? Thank you.

  • flagfox - tells you where the site is located
  • Downloadhelper - download Youtube videos
  • Flashgot - works well with Getright
  • Fox Tab - 3d Tab switching
  • IE Tab Plus - for these pesky sites that refuses to load properly in FF
  • McAfee Site Advisor
  • Noia 2.0 Extreme - better look
  • Lastpass - remembers all your password, compiles it in one big secure db

Thank you, I will take a look at those.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: DontSayBanana on March 08, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
First off, Gecko runs way faster than WebKit (Chrome and Safari run the same rendering engine- you're not gonna see much of a difference between those two), so you're going to find Firefox runs a lot faster than Chrome... if you don't pile on too many add-ons that bog down the program.

Right now, I'm running FF 3.6.15/NoScript/Adblock Plus(Fanboy's List).
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Barrister on March 08, 2011, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 08, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
First off, Gecko runs way faster than WebKit (Chrome and Safari run the same rendering engine- you're not gonna see much of a difference between those two), so you're going to find Firefox runs a lot faster than Chrome...

:lol:

Got a source on that?

I didn't think so.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: viper37 on March 08, 2011, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: Barrister on March 08, 2011, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 08, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
First off, Gecko runs way faster than WebKit (Chrome and Safari run the same rendering engine- you're not gonna see much of a difference between those two), so you're going to find Firefox runs a lot faster than Chrome...

:lol:

Got a source on that?

I didn't think so.
About wich part?
Chrome OS and Safari using Webkit?
WebKit powers Google Chrome and Apple's Safari,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit


Firefox 4.0 uses Gecko 2
Firefox 4 is based on the Gecko 2.0 engine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox_4


About the speed?  Currently, Beta 10 and above (they're at #12 now) are faster than Chrome 9.x or any other browser currently available, as retail or open beta.

FF 4.0 uses the GPU to offload processing from the CPU, making it faster.

How much?  Depending on the scale you use, you can get interesting figures ;)  But #figures, in absolute terms, do we really notice 100 milliseconds difference?
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Liep on March 08, 2011, 05:24:49 PM
There is no noticeable difference between Chrome 11.x and Firefox Beta 12 when viewing Languish.org.  :P
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: derspiess on March 10, 2011, 11:57:36 AM
Nobody mentioned security, but FWIW: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/10/safari-and-ie8-get-shamed-at-pwn2own-chrome-still-safe-for-n/
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: DontSayBanana on March 10, 2011, 12:58:38 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 10, 2011, 11:57:36 AM
Nobody mentioned security, but FWIW: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/10/safari-and-ie8-get-shamed-at-pwn2own-chrome-still-safe-for-n/

http://www.networksecurityedge.com/content/google-patches-19-chrome-vulnerabilities

Compare that to this advisory:

http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/

At the same time, Chrome had more known critical bugs than the entire list of known bugs for Firefox.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: DontSayBanana on March 15, 2011, 09:58:06 AM
Just switched up to FF4 RC.  Anybody else giving it a test-drive?
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Liep on March 15, 2011, 10:41:41 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 15, 2011, 09:58:06 AM
Just switched up to FF4 RC.  Anybody else giving it a test-drive?

Yep, I like the design and it seems very fast. You can scroll down on heavy sites immediately, the two-three seconds you had to wait before was not worthy of 2011.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: DontSayBanana on March 15, 2011, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: Liep on March 15, 2011, 10:41:41 AM
Yep, I like the design and it seems very fast. You can scroll down on heavy sites immediately, the two-three seconds you had to wait before was not worthy of 2011.

:yes: The new UI is nice and clean; it reminds me of the cleaner Chrome UI, but it's not a direct lift.  I'm also just wondering if anybody's been using the app tabs.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: lustindarkness on March 28, 2011, 12:30:48 PM
FF4 for the last week or so. Love it.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on March 29, 2011, 08:17:46 PM
Is it in beta or this the production version?
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: DontSayBanana on March 30, 2011, 08:25:43 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 29, 2011, 08:17:46 PM
Is it in beta or this the production version?

4's in RC right now; something like: "we don't want to call this a beta, but enough people might be holding onto 3.6 that we don't want to call it the stable version."
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Liep on March 30, 2011, 11:12:48 AM
Actually I'm pretty sure it's done, released and downloaded 40 million+ times already.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Caliga on March 30, 2011, 11:26:45 AM
Yes, I have Firefox 4 final.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: viper37 on March 30, 2011, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on March 30, 2011, 08:25:43 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 29, 2011, 08:17:46 PM
Is it in beta or this the production version?

4's in RC right now; something like: "we don't want to call this a beta, but enough people might be holding onto 3.6 that we don't want to call it the stable version."
it's the final FF 4.0 since last week.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: garbon on March 30, 2011, 12:09:15 PM
I'm confused by this notion of each tab containing the URL bar.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: derspiess on March 30, 2011, 12:15:48 PM
I'm going to try out the Android version of Firefox.  I'm dubious that it's 3x faster than the stock Android browser, as has been claimed, but can't hurt to try.  Chances are I'll like it enough to keep it installed but not enough to be my full-time browser, and I'll end up with 3 damned browsers on my phone :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: garbon on March 30, 2011, 12:37:22 PM
You sound dumb.
Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Norgy on April 02, 2011, 03:04:33 PM
After testing a few browsers, I've come to the conclusion that Opera is fast and relatively easy to use, FF is a bit buggy but has lots of great plugins, IE is fast, but still old-fashioned and that I just don't like Chrome.
Safari's W3 compliant to a large degree, but I still don't like it.

It's all down to personal choice, really. Security-wise, none are perfect, but FF/Mozilla publish their security loopholes online. One might question the wisdom of this, as FF users probably are no more advanced or aware than others.

Title: Re: Testing Firefox
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 02, 2011, 03:14:12 PM
I installed FF 4 after some update on version 3 nuked it.  I'm not sure i like it.