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Title: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Monoriu on April 09, 2010, 02:58:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OybbepK-8vM&feature=popular
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 09, 2010, 03:04:28 PM
Who is Susan Boyle and why does she need an answer?
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Jacob on April 09, 2010, 03:40:32 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 09, 2010, 03:04:28 PM
Who is Susan Boyle and why does she need an answer?

Susan Boyle is a sort of frumpy looking English woman who won the English amateur-star-search TV program... last year?  She came on and gave the vibe of one of those embarassing people about to humiliate themselves but instead proved to be an amazing singer.  A bit of a feel good story (hence, why it wasn't posted on Languish) on the internet back when it happened.  This kid can sing really well too, and looks kind of dorky, so if you like that sort of thing that's another feel good story.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 09, 2010, 03:42:55 PM
Ah.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: garbon on April 09, 2010, 03:47:43 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 09, 2010, 03:40:32 PM
A bit of a feel good story (hence, why it wasn't posted on Languish) on the internet back when it happened. 

Interesting seeing as how we had a thread titled "Susan Boyle."

http://languish.org/forums/index.php?topic=524.0
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: The Minsky Moment on April 09, 2010, 03:56:55 PM
"amazing singer" is not how I would describe Susan Boyle.

She is pretty good by the standards of the talent show reality programs, which is not saying that much.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: DisturbedPervert on April 09, 2010, 03:59:24 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 09, 2010, 03:47:43 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 09, 2010, 03:40:32 PM
A bit of a feel good story (hence, why it wasn't posted on Languish) on the internet back when it happened.

Interesting seeing as how we had a thread titled "Susan Boyle."

http://languish.org/forums/index.php?topic=524.0

Yeah, this forum is the only reason I'd heard of her
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 09, 2010, 04:36:58 PM
I don't think she won, but came in second to a dance troupe.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Monoriu on April 09, 2010, 04:38:44 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 09, 2010, 04:36:58 PM
I don't think she won, but came in second to a dance troupe.

I bet millions of people thought she won, which is the only thing that really matters  ;)
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Jacob on April 09, 2010, 04:52:29 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 09, 2010, 03:56:55 PM
"amazing singer" is not how I would describe Susan Boyle.

She is pretty good by the standards of the talent show reality programs, which is not saying that much.

Heh, yeah fair enough.

I think the "amazing" really is a description of the distance between initial expectations and her actual performance, rather than an absolute level of quality.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: garbon on April 09, 2010, 05:00:50 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 09, 2010, 04:52:29 PM
I think the "amazing" really is a description of the distance between initial expectations and her actual performance, rather than an absolute level of quality.

Although I think that's a negative as it speaks more to people's preconceptions about ugly, crazy, old ladies.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Sheilbh on April 09, 2010, 05:45:32 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 09, 2010, 03:40:32 PM

Susan Boyle is a sort of frumpy looking English woman who won the English amateur-star-search TV program... last year? 
Scottish.  She'd headbutt you if she'd heard that :P
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 09, 2010, 05:47:45 PM
IIRC Boyle is a French name. :hmm:
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Ed Anger on April 09, 2010, 05:56:15 PM
Royale with cheese.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Agelastus on April 09, 2010, 06:09:51 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 09, 2010, 05:45:32 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 09, 2010, 03:40:32 PM

Susan Boyle is a sort of frumpy looking English woman who won the English amateur-star-search TV program... last year? 
Scottish.  She'd headbutt you if she'd heard that :P

If she didn't have a mental breakdown first.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Cerr on April 09, 2010, 06:24:56 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 09, 2010, 05:47:45 PM
IIRC Boyle is a French name. :hmm:
It's either Irish or French

http://www.surnamedb.com/surname.aspx?name=Boyle
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Eochaid on April 09, 2010, 06:28:20 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 09, 2010, 05:45:32 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 09, 2010, 03:40:32 PM

Susan Boyle is a sort of frumpy looking English woman who won the English amateur-star-search TV program... last year? 
Scottish.  She'd headbutt you if she'd heard that :P

Just saw this thread. Glad to see my main man Sean took care of clearing this mess up for us.

She's a Scot :)

Kevin
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2010, 09:46:19 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 09, 2010, 03:04:28 PM
Who is Susan Boyle and why does she need an answer?
Sometimes I think you live in a hole in the ground.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 09, 2010, 10:53:30 PM
Are your students all familiar with Susan Boyle?
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2010, 11:28:54 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 09, 2010, 10:53:30 PM
Are your students all familiar with Susan Boyle?
They don't live inside the Anglo-American cultural sphere. It's not an applicable comparison.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: DisturbedPervert on April 09, 2010, 11:36:12 PM
If someone doesn't watch much tv I don't see why they would know about her
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2010, 11:38:49 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on April 09, 2010, 11:36:12 PM
If someone doesn't watch much tv I don't see why they would know about her
I don't watch much TV.

EDIT: Anyways, this is just one of many instances of Yi exclaiming bafflement over a pop cultural or sports references that came into prominence after the 1990s.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 10, 2010, 12:41:10 AM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on April 09, 2010, 11:36:12 PM
If someone doesn't watch much tv I don't see why they would know about her

Heck, even someone who does watch lots of tv might miss her if they didn't watch light news programs or pay attention to promos for a few weeks last spring.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: The Brain on April 10, 2010, 02:01:10 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2010, 11:38:49 PM
EDIT: Anyways, this is just one of many instances of Yi exclaiming bafflement over a pop cultural or sports references that came into prominence after the 1990s.

Is the nigga still on dial-up btw?
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: The Brain on April 10, 2010, 02:02:21 AM
When people see me they invariably expect an amazing performance. I consistently disappoint though. :(
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Agelastus on April 10, 2010, 12:29:56 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 10, 2010, 12:41:10 AM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on April 09, 2010, 11:36:12 PM
If someone doesn't watch much tv I don't see why they would know about her

Heck, even someone who does watch lots of tv might miss her if they didn't watch light news programs or pay attention to promos for a few weeks last spring.

That's the problem. I'd be happy to know nothing about her, but you can't tune out all the goddamn promos... :(
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: viper37 on April 10, 2010, 01:55:32 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 09, 2010, 05:47:45 PM
IIRC Boyle is a French name. :hmm:
I don't think so...
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Korea on April 10, 2010, 04:13:40 PM
He sings very prettily. :) Kind of weird to hear that voice coming out of a dude though.... :hmm:
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 10, 2010, 04:39:16 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on April 10, 2010, 12:29:56 PM
That's the problem. I'd be happy to know nothing about her, but you can't tune out all the goddamn promos... :(

Well, I imagine it's easier when it's just promos for news shows because none of the channels you watch are showing Britain's Got Talent. ;)
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Agelastus on April 10, 2010, 04:50:29 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 10, 2010, 04:39:16 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on April 10, 2010, 12:29:56 PM
That's the problem. I'd be happy to know nothing about her, but you can't tune out all the goddamn promos... :(

Well, I imagine it's easier when it's just promos for news shows because none of the channels you watch are showing Britain's Got Talent. ;)

You lucky bastard... :(
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 10, 2010, 05:37:48 PM
Heh, I actually caught a lot of it on Youtube. Diversity was cool, I'm glad they won.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Lucidor on April 12, 2010, 12:34:33 AM
He is good, I give him that... I'm assuming he has been training on nailing that song some time - it's interesting to see if he is as quick to learn the rest of the repertoire.

EDIT: The guy has a lovely counter tenor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSDTDqLI_10&feature=related
He puts colour to the high notes like a woman. Impressive!
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Lucidor on April 12, 2010, 12:45:25 AM
I listened some to Michael Chance's arias from the Matthew Passion, and Chance is much more nuanced.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHbOOe8n2gY
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: DontSayBanana on April 12, 2010, 07:22:19 AM
Quote from: Korea on April 10, 2010, 04:13:40 PM
He sings very prettily. :) Kind of weird to hear that voice coming out of a dude though.... :hmm:

Altos and sopranos are rare in male voices, but they do happen.  There was a kid in Texas who got offed from his school choir because he was in first soprano range and couldn't sing tenor without risking blowing out his voice.  Naturally, the school went with the blanket "soprano roles are traditionally female" rather than admit the disservice they were doing the kid.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Lucidor on April 12, 2010, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on April 12, 2010, 07:22:19 AM
Quote from: Korea on April 10, 2010, 04:13:40 PM
He sings very prettily. :) Kind of weird to hear that voice coming out of a dude though.... :hmm:

Altos and sopranos are rare in male voices, but they do happen.  There was a kid in Texas who got offed from his school choir because he was in first soprano range and couldn't sing tenor without risking blowing out his voice.  Naturally, the school went with the blanket "soprano roles are traditionally female" rather than admit the disservice they were doing the kid.
Girls soprano voices and male sopranos have different timbres, so I guess the mix would always sound a bit weird, but they could have used him in medieval ensemble work and it would have been splendid.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: crazy canuck on April 12, 2010, 11:33:16 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 10, 2010, 12:41:10 AM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on April 09, 2010, 11:36:12 PM
If someone doesn't watch much tv I don't see why they would know about her

Heck, even someone who does watch lots of tv might miss her if they didn't watch light news programs or pay attention to promos for a few weeks last spring.

She is sufficiently famous for JR to correct Jacob on the quality of her singing ability.  ;)
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 12, 2010, 05:44:27 PM
If someone had said the ugly broad who sang well on UK Idol I would have known who they were talking about.  I just didn't remember the name.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: DontSayBanana on April 12, 2010, 06:17:54 PM
Quote from: Lucidor on April 12, 2010, 11:27:44 AM
Girls soprano voices and male sopranos have different timbres, so I guess the mix would always sound a bit weird, but they could have used him in medieval ensemble work and it would have been splendid.

True, though I'd point out that natural male sopranos don't sound like the castrati did, either. :contract:
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: grumbler on April 12, 2010, 08:51:06 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 12, 2010, 05:44:27 PM
If someone had said the ugly broad who sang well on UK Idol I would have known who they were talking about.  I just didn't remember the name.
Whose name?
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: merithyn on April 12, 2010, 09:09:05 PM
He's already been voted off for his Mandarin rendition of something or other.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 12, 2010, 10:37:39 PM
That dude does kinda look like Boyle. He has the round face and bushy eyebrows part at least.
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Monoriu on April 12, 2010, 10:39:09 PM
Quote from: merithyn on April 12, 2010, 09:09:05 PM
He's already been voted off for his Mandarin rendition of something or other.

Yeah I heard he sang in Mandarin.  It was only average. 
Title: Re: Taiwan's answer to Susan Boyle
Post by: Lucidor on April 13, 2010, 11:27:40 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on April 12, 2010, 06:17:54 PM
Quote from: Lucidor on April 12, 2010, 11:27:44 AM
Girls soprano voices and male sopranos have different timbres, so I guess the mix would always sound a bit weird, but they could have used him in medieval ensemble work and it would have been splendid.

True, though I'd point out that natural male sopranos don't sound like the castrati did, either. :contract:
I know. It was quite rare with castrati and not a big thing in church choirs, IIRC.