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Title: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2009, 01:56:03 PM
 :huh: Weird story.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30136788/
QuoteGrandmother dies trying to stop sword fight
Grandson, 39, charged in death; another relative, 69, in critical condition

INDIANAPOLIS - A 77-year-old woman who tried to break up a heated sword fight between her grandson and brother-in-law died, and both men were hospitalized with stab wounds, police said Thursday.

Franziska Stegbauer was stabbed during the fight and investigators were trying to determine whether she died from those wounds or a heart attack.

Police placed her grandson, 39-year-old Chris Rondeau, under arrest on a preliminary charge of attempted murder. Stegbauer's brother-in-law, 69-year-old Adolf Stegbauer, suffered several serious stab wounds, police said.

"We're unsure yet who started this fight, how the swordplay got involved," police Sgt. Matthew Mount said. "We're not sure who it was who stabbed the woman. We'll have to do some testing on the swords and figure out who had which sword, whose blood is on which sword."

An autopsy was scheduled for Franziska Stegbauer on Thursday.

She was not breathing when officers arrived about 1 a.m. at the home on the city's northwest side and she was later pronounced dead at a hospital, police said.

Adolf Stegbauer was listed in critical condition at Wishard Hospital, a spokesman said. Rondeau's condition was not immediately known.

Copyright 2009 The Associated Press.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Martinus on April 09, 2009, 01:57:37 PM
Never bring a grandma to a swordfight. :(
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Ed Anger on April 09, 2009, 01:59:05 PM
She will not be the ruler of them all.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: DGuller on April 09, 2009, 02:05:12 PM
Don't bring your fists to a swordfight.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Caliga on April 09, 2009, 02:25:03 PM
How many times have I told you people that Indiana is even more redneck than Kentucky?  Me = VINDICATED.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 02:33:13 PM
My son witnessed a nearly fatal swordfight a couple of weeks ago.

My parents took Carl to a Medieval Pagent held at the Museum. One of the shows was a demonstration of knights in armour fighting with swords. Of course it was supposed to be a mock-fight with blunt weapons between trained re-enactors, but something went wrong and one of the guys got stabbed through the armpit with a blunt sword, severing an artery and starting to bleed out. The paramedics arrived quickly and saved him, then hauled him off to the hospital.

They mopped up the blood and carried on.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Ed Anger on April 09, 2009, 02:35:34 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 09, 2009, 02:25:03 PM
How many times have I told you people that Indiana is even more redneck than Kentucky?  Me = VINDICATED.

You still lose, as you eat at gas stations.

CAL = GASSY AND BLOATED
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2009, 02:42:33 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 02:33:13 PM
My son witnessed a nearly fatal swordfight a couple of weeks ago.

My parents took Carl to a Medieval Pagent held at the Museum. One of the shows was a demonstration of knights in armour fighting with swords. Of course it was supposed to be a mock-fight with blunt weapons between trained re-enactors, but something went wrong and one of the guys got stabbed through the armpit with a blunt sword, severing an artery and starting to bleed out. The paramedics arrived quickly and saved him, then hauled him off to the hospital.

They mopped up the blood and carried on.
How'd you explain that to Carl?
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2009, 02:42:33 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 02:33:13 PM
My son witnessed a nearly fatal swordfight a couple of weeks ago.

My parents took Carl to a Medieval Pagent held at the Museum. One of the shows was a demonstration of knights in armour fighting with swords. Of course it was supposed to be a mock-fight with blunt weapons between trained re-enactors, but something went wrong and one of the guys got stabbed through the armpit with a blunt sword, severing an artery and starting to bleed out. The paramedics arrived quickly and saved him, then hauled him off to the hospital.

They mopped up the blood and carried on.
How'd you explain that to Carl?

I wasn't there.

He never mentioned it, so I just assume he thought that was supposed to happen.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on April 09, 2009, 02:45:11 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2009, 02:42:33 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 02:33:13 PM
My son witnessed a nearly fatal swordfight a couple of weeks ago.

My parents took Carl to a Medieval Pagent held at the Museum. One of the shows was a demonstration of knights in armour fighting with swords. Of course it was supposed to be a mock-fight with blunt weapons between trained re-enactors, but something went wrong and one of the guys got stabbed through the armpit with a blunt sword, severing an artery and starting to bleed out. The paramedics arrived quickly and saved him, then hauled him off to the hospital.

They mopped up the blood and carried on.
How'd you explain that to Carl?
'The show must go on, Son!"
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2009, 02:47:43 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2009, 02:42:33 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 02:33:13 PM
My son witnessed a nearly fatal swordfight a couple of weeks ago.

My parents took Carl to a Medieval Pagent held at the Museum. One of the shows was a demonstration of knights in armour fighting with swords. Of course it was supposed to be a mock-fight with blunt weapons between trained re-enactors, but something went wrong and one of the guys got stabbed through the armpit with a blunt sword, severing an artery and starting to bleed out. The paramedics arrived quickly and saved him, then hauled him off to the hospital.

They mopped up the blood and carried on.
How'd you explain that to Carl?

I wasn't there.

He never mentioned it, so I just assume he thought that was supposed to happen.

When he goes nuts with a sword at college, you'll know where to lay the blame.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Savonarola on April 09, 2009, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2009, 02:47:43 PM
When he goes nuts with a sword at college, you'll know where to lay the blame.

I blame the rap music.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Ed Anger on April 09, 2009, 02:50:49 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 02:33:13 PM
My son witnessed a nearly fatal swordfight a couple of weeks ago.

My parents took Carl to a Medieval Pagent held at the Museum. One of the shows was a demonstration of knights in armour fighting with swords. Of course it was supposed to be a mock-fight with blunt weapons between trained re-enactors, but something went wrong and one of the guys got stabbed through the armpit with a blunt sword, severing an artery and starting to bleed out. The paramedics arrived quickly and saved him, then hauled him off to the hospital.

They mopped up the blood and carried on.

Coolness. Kids love violence. Sounds better than the Ren Faire I went to for the hell of it some years ago. Fat chicks and hippy nerds.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 02:52:43 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2009, 02:47:43 PM

When he goes nuts with a sword at college, you'll know where to lay the blame.

To be honest, I'm much more worried about the fact he really, really enjoyed the demolision derby.  :lol:

Anyway, for Carl it's too late: he's already trained to be a sword-weilding maniac:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IxUdBPnvpg&feature=channel_page
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Neil on April 09, 2009, 02:54:36 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 09, 2009, 02:25:03 PM
How many times have I told you people that Indiana is even more redneck than Kentucky?  Me = VINDICATED.
Settling your differences in a swordfight is less redneck than eating at a gas station, Jethro.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Ed Anger on April 09, 2009, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 02:52:43 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2009, 02:47:43 PM

When he goes nuts with a sword at college, you'll know where to lay the blame.

To be honest, I'm much more worried about the fact he really, really enjoyed the demolision derby.  :lol:

Anyway, for Carl it's too late: he's already trained to be a sword-weilding maniac:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IxUdBPnvpg&feature=channel_page

You need to put in the first couple of minutes from Queen's Princes of the Universe(the cool bits of the song) on that.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: DGuller on April 09, 2009, 02:56:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 02:44:27 PM
I wasn't there.

He never mentioned it, so I just assume he thought that was supposed to happen.
I hope you explained to him that there were no ambulances in medieval times.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Caliga on April 09, 2009, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 09, 2009, 02:54:36 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 09, 2009, 02:25:03 PM
How many times have I told you people that Indiana is even more redneck than Kentucky?  Me = VINDICATED.
Settling your differences in a swordfight is less redneck than eating at a gas station, Jethro.

WARNING: The Cal and Gas Station meme is getting ready to jump the shark.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 09, 2009, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 02:52:43 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2009, 02:47:43 PM

When he goes nuts with a sword at college, you'll know where to lay the blame.

To be honest, I'm much more worried about the fact he really, really enjoyed the demolision derby.  :lol:

Anyway, for Carl it's too late: he's already trained to be a sword-weilding maniac:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IxUdBPnvpg&feature=channel_page

You need to put in the first couple of minutes from Queen's Princes of the Universe(the cool bits of the song) on that.

:lol:

I may just do that.

On another note, I'd point out that he's learned some moves not taught in fencing school:

1. When in a duel, grab your opponent's sword with your free hand; and then

2. Stab him in the ass repeatedly.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: DGuller on April 09, 2009, 03:19:04 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 09, 2009, 03:13:29 PM
WARNING: The Cal and Gas Station meme is getting ready to jump the shark.
Can The Cal still jump after all that gas station food?
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: DisturbedPervert on April 09, 2009, 03:20:07 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2009, 02:47:43 PM
When he goes nuts with a sword at college, you'll know where to lay the blame.

:yes:

The Society for Creative Anachronism
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Caliga on April 09, 2009, 03:24:22 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 09, 2009, 03:19:04 PMCan The Cal still jump after all that gas station food?

I can propel myself into the air with gas.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: DGuller on April 09, 2009, 03:38:27 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 09, 2009, 03:24:22 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 09, 2009, 03:19:04 PMCan The Cal still jump after all that gas station food?

I can propel myself into the air with gas.
:lmfao:
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 03:55:16 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 09, 2009, 03:24:22 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 09, 2009, 03:19:04 PMCan The Cal still jump after all that gas station food?

I can propel myself into the air with gas.

That will no doubt take care of the damn shark, too.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2009, 04:01:50 PM
I'm really annoyed they didn't write the type of swords involved. How am I supposed to imagine what went on without that information?
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: alfred russel on April 09, 2009, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 09, 2009, 02:56:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 02:44:27 PM
I wasn't there.

He never mentioned it, so I just assume he thought that was supposed to happen.
I hope you explained to him that there were no ambulances in medieval times.

:D
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: alfred russel on April 09, 2009, 04:16:47 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 09, 2009, 02:25:03 PM
How many times have I told you people that Indiana is even more redneck than Kentucky?  Me = VINDICATED.

Settling differences through a swordfight and only killing grandma is something I'd associate with anime nerds more than rednecks. :p
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Capetan Mihali on April 09, 2009, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 09, 2009, 04:01:50 PM
I'm really annoyed they didn't write the type of swords involved. How am I supposed to imagine what went on without that information?

As a material witness in this case, I can tell you it was a (replica!) Gandalf sword.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 04:29:40 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 09, 2009, 04:28:03 PM

As a material witness in this case, I can tell you it was a (replica!) Gandalf sword.

Seriously?
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: fhdz on April 09, 2009, 04:31:28 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 09, 2009, 04:28:03 PM
As a material witness in this case, I can tell you it was a (replica!) Gandalf sword.

+2 nerdslaying!
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Capetan Mihali on April 09, 2009, 04:31:53 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 04:29:40 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 09, 2009, 04:28:03 PM

As a material witness in this case, I can tell you it was a (replica!) Gandalf sword.

Seriously?

No.  -_-
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 04:34:26 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 09, 2009, 04:31:53 PM
Quote from: Malthus on April 09, 2009, 04:29:40 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 09, 2009, 04:28:03 PM

As a material witness in this case, I can tell you it was a (replica!) Gandalf sword.

Seriously?

No.  -_-

:lol:

It wasn't impossible, only very unlikely.
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: dps on April 09, 2009, 06:43:07 PM
QuotePolice placed her grandson, 39-year-old Chris Rondeau, under arrest on a preliminary charge of attempted murder. Stegbauer's brother-in-law, 69-year-old Adolf Stegbauer, suffered several serious stab wounds, police said.

"We're unsure yet who started this fight, how the swordplay got involved," police Sgt. Matthew Mount said. "We're not sure who it was who stabbed the woman. We'll have to do some testing on the swords and figure out who had which sword, whose blood is on which sword."

If they're not sure about who started the fight, how swordplay got involved, and who stabbed the old woman, how come the grandson is under arrest but (apparantly) not the brother-in-law?

Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Caliga on April 09, 2009, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on April 09, 2009, 04:16:47 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 09, 2009, 02:25:03 PM
How many times have I told you people that Indiana is even more redneck than Kentucky?  Me = VINDICATED.

Settling differences through a swordfight and only killing grandma is something I'd associate with anime nerds more than rednecks. :p

The idea was that Hoosiers are such rednecks that they haven't even discovered firearms yet. :(
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: Caliga on April 09, 2009, 08:03:47 PM
Quote from: dps on April 09, 2009, 06:43:07 PMIf they're not sure about who started the fight, how swordplay got involved, and who stabbed the old woman, how come the grandson is under arrest but (apparantly) not the brother-in-law?

He was the only black in the room.  ^_^
Title: Re: Grandma dies trying to stop sword fight
Post by: saskganesh on April 09, 2009, 10:32:04 PM
anyhow, geeks kill and timmay is a war criminal. end of thread.