http://voteforpolicies.org.uk/
Blindingly obvious which party is which on occasion but some oddness.
What if I don't like any of the policies proposed? :P
I voted for the Green Party on everything except Europe (got Lib-Dems), and Health and Education (got Labour). :bowler:
Amusing how on the internet the radicals are so often way overrepresented in the results
Rather surprised to see I should vote Labour :huh:
Crime Lib Dems
Democracy Green Party
Economy Conservatives
Education Lib Dems
Environment Conservatives
Europe Conservatives
Health / NHS Green Party
Immigration Conservatives
Welfare Lib Dems
On a lot of that stuff, all the parties(except the fascists) sounded nearly exactly the same.
Crime UKIP
Democracy BNP
Economy Conservatives
Education BNP
Environment BNP
Europe UKIP
Health/NHS BNP
Immigration UKIP
Welfare BNP
UKIP and BNP had considerable overlap in my support; I consistently felt like i'd be content with either option.
Your position on the environment is "Get rid of all the immigrants?" :rolleyes:
Crime UKIP
Democracy UKIP
Economy UKIP
Education BNP
Environment UKIP
Europe UKIP
Health / NHS Lib Dems
Immigration Green Party
Welfare Lib Dems
In all honesty, my choice of policy on Health and Immigration were based on choosing the lesser of all evils. I did not really support any of the policies on offer. I find it amusing that the closest I could find to my views on these policy areas were the Lib Dems and the Greens, political parties I genuinely despise! :lol:
I had a feeling that I'd come up with UKIP majority results. I will, of course, vote Conservative at the election, as there is no prospect of a UKIP MP being elected, and I have no intention of wasting my vote and helping Labour win a fourth disastrous term.
It thinks that I should vote Tory, as I was 33% Tory, 22% BNP, 22% Green Party, 11% Lib Dem and 11% UKIP. I avoided accursed Labour entirely.
Crime BNP
Democracy Conservatives
Economy Green Party
Education Conservatives
Environment Green Party
Europe Conservatives
Health / NHS BNP
Immigration Lib Dems
Welfare UKIP
I like online polls. I always thought Agelastus is an idiot and his results confirm this. :cool:
Quote from: Martinus on March 30, 2010, 07:48:54 AM
Quote from: Neil on March 30, 2010, 07:47:55 AM
Environment Green Party
:nelson:
What? You should be happy that for once you were actually right about something.
Crime Labour
Democracy Lib Dems
Economy Lib Dems
Education Labour
Environment Green Party
Europe Lib Dems
Health / NHS Green Party
Immigration Lib Dems
Welfare Conservatives
Some policies are really fucking retarded.
Quote from: Martinus on March 30, 2010, 07:47:56 AM
I like online polls. I always thought Agelastus is an idiot and his results confirm this. :cool:
Since I probably have a higher IQ than you, and I was already aware that our views were diametrically opposite in most respects, I will take your opinion with a pinch of salt. :P
Besides, other than their policy on Europe where we are bound to disagree, I don't recall seeing anything particularly objectionable to you in UKIP's other policies. I am curious as to where (other than Europe) your disagreement with them lies.
Quote from: Agelastus on March 30, 2010, 07:56:06 AM
Besides, other than their policy on Europe where we are bound to disagree, I don't recall seeing anything particularly objectionable to you in UKIP's other policies. I am curious as to where (other than Europe) your disagreement with them lies.
Someone who votes for the UKIP probably mildly disparaged gays at some point. There is only one issue that Martinus cares about, even a little bit. Everything in his life revolves around that one issue. He is: Too gay to function.
Environment is easily the least important issue to me on the list. But if you recall, the BNP supported using local/seasonal produce, reducing taxes on garbage collection, and more ethical farming procedures rather than meat factories.
I like all of these things, so I went with it. Other environmental polices typically sound overly expensive.
Quote from: Neil on March 30, 2010, 08:06:50 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on March 30, 2010, 07:56:06 AM
Besides, other than their policy on Europe where we are bound to disagree, I don't recall seeing anything particularly objectionable to you in UKIP's other policies. I am curious as to where (other than Europe) your disagreement with them lies.
Someone who votes for the UKIP probably mildly disparaged gays at some point. There is only one issue that Martinus cares about, even a little bit. Everything in his life revolves around that one issue. He is: Too gay to function.
While there does seem to be a certain amount of circumstantial evidence that you are correct, I still consider this more of a Languish manufactured meme than a general obsession of Martinus'. Certainly recently it seems he is "dogpiled" whatever and whenever he posts, regardless of content. I also don't recall ever specifically referencing his sexuality in any of the infrequent times I have debated with him... :hmm:
Anyway, for the record, I have no interest in anyone's sexuality. It is their own business, and other than the legalities of the age of consent, not a matter for the law or other people. I can recall making one remark in poor taste about someone's sexuality during one of the Languish "pile-ons" on the old server, which I now regret. Unfortunately, I cannot recall which of the "G"s I made it to... :(
And Martinus, I am genuinely interested in why you are so strongly against UKIPs policies that do not directly relate to membership of the European Union?
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 30, 2010, 08:08:58 AM
Environment is easily the least important issue to me on the list. But if you recall, the BNP supported using local/seasonal produce, reducing taxes on garbage collection, and more ethical farming procedures rather than meat factories.
Raising the price of meat is a terrible idea, and makes me think that the BNP might be mildly retarded. And reducing taxes on garbage collection is counterproductive.
Quote from: Agelastus on March 30, 2010, 07:56:06 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 30, 2010, 07:47:56 AM
I like online polls. I always thought Agelastus is an idiot and his results confirm this. :cool:
Since I probably have a higher IQ than you, and I was already aware that our views were diametrically opposite in most respects, I will take your opinion with a pinch of salt. :P
Besides, other than their policy on Europe where we are bound to disagree, I don't recall seeing anything particularly objectionable to you in UKIP's other policies. I am curious as to where (other than Europe) your disagreement with them lies.
Well that cinched it. Bragging about your IQ (or what you think your IQ is compared to Martys) does in fact make you idiot.
Well Neil, if you say so, i'll have to defer to your superior judgement. As I say, environmental issues struggle to be something I can care about. At best I tend to identify with buy local movements as a means of strengthening the South.
Quote from: Razgovory on March 30, 2010, 08:19:30 AM
Well that cinched it. Bragging about your IQ (or what you think your IQ is compared to Martys) does in fact make you idiot.
Only judging by online tests, which are generally known to be inaccurate, but which are the only yardsticks I can recall us Languishites ever taking.
If Martinus has taken an official MENSA test (something I have never bothered to do) I will gladly reverse that comment of mine and apologise.
Too much to read, didn't take.
So, let's say National Socialist since all web quizzes call me Hitler.
Crime Green Party
Democracy Green Party
Economy Labour
Education Lib Dems
Environment Green Party
Europe Lib Dems
Health / NHS Green Party
Immigration Conservatives
Welfare Conservatives
Then again, I wouldn't put much trust on it, as some of the issues were so idiosincratically British that I just couldn't relate much to them, and others were plainly uninteligible as a non-Brit due to the vast amount of programs, weird taxes and stuff that I simply don't know much/anything about.
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 30, 2010, 08:21:46 AM
Well Neil, if you say so, i'll have to defer to your superior judgement. As I say, environmental issues struggle to be something I can care about. At best I tend to identify with buy local movements as a means of strengthening the South.
But really, buy local movements don't strengthen the South, as they create smaller, weaker economic fiefdoms. Export and trade bring strength. Given that the South's main economic strength is relatively cheap first-world labour, I would think that the very idea of 'buy local' would be anathaema to a true son of the South.
And the meat issue isn't really environmental, but economic, social and health-based.
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 30, 2010, 08:23:54 AM
Too much to read, didn't take.
So, let's say National Socialist since all web quizzes call me Hitler.
Chalk another one up for UKIP then.
Fantastic. In Britain I'd be a Conservative. <_< Fuck I even agreed with the Nazis on one thing.
Really, Neil, your suggesting giving yankees money instead of southern businesses that offer the same products or service is in some way good for the South?
Quote from: Brazen on March 30, 2010, 08:41:26 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 30, 2010, 08:23:54 AM
Too much to read, didn't take.
So, let's say National Socialist since all web quizzes call me Hitler.
Chalk another one up for UKIP then.
:lol: :rolleyes:
:ph34r:
Crime BNP
Democracy Labour
Economy Labour
Education Green Party
Environment Labour
Europe Conservatives
Health / NHS Labour
Immigration Conservatives
Welfare Green Party
I only did the topic areas that would affect my vote:
Issue Parties policies you chose
Democracy Labour
Economy Conservatives
Education Conservatives
Europe Labour
Immigration Conservatives
60% Tory
I don't quite understand my result though; on immigration, I'm far more liberal than the Tory position.
:ph34r:
Crime Green Party
Democracy Labour
Economy Labour
Education Conservatives
Environment Green Party
Europe Labour
Health / NHS Lib Dems
Immigration Lib Dems
Welfare Green Party
Quote from: Agelastus on March 30, 2010, 08:17:52 AMAnd Martinus, I am genuinely interested in why you are so strongly against UKIPs policies that do not directly relate to membership of the European Union?
I admit I do not know a lot of UKIP policies, other than their desire to leave the EU, which in itself is the height of retardation. Other than that, they seem to me like a sort of BNP-lite - a populist nationalist party, which is only marginally better than outward BNP-style neonazis.
Plus I consider you an idiot not only because you agree with UKIP on so many issues, but because you also agree with BNP, on Education of all places.
Hmm... it seems that the Green Party has a decent education policy. Rest are Conservatives and Labour.
Quote from: Agelastus on March 30, 2010, 07:56:06 AM
Since I probably have a higher IQ than you,
I'm sorry - I can't let this one go:
:rolleyes:
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 30, 2010, 08:46:43 AM
Really, Neil, your suggesting giving yankees money instead of southern businesses that offer the same products or service is in some way good for the South?
Yes. The reason is that doing so makes the North more open to doing business in the South in areas where the South has a comparative advantage, such as manufacturing. Would the South truly be enriched if it's manufacturing sector, which works mainly to build things for the North and West, largely went back to California, Michigan and New England?
In a market where everyone is playing relatively fair, 'buy local' is counterproductive. It is selfish even in conception, where they buy from you and you buy local. In practice, it is dangerous both to wealth and standard of living, and eventually life and limb.
Quote from: Brazen on March 30, 2010, 08:41:26 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 30, 2010, 08:23:54 AM
Too much to read, didn't take.
So, let's say National Socialist since all web quizzes call me Hitler.
Chalk another one up for UKIP then.
I'm disappointed in you. First, it was the BNP that were Nazis. Now, rhetorical Naziism has spread to the much more moderate UKIP. Will the Tories be Nazis soon?
I'd expect that sort of thing from Jos or Martinus, but you're better than that.
I ended up with rather oddly:
Crime Green Party
Democracy Labour
Economy Lib Dems
Education Lib Dems
Environment UKIP
Europe Lib Dems
Health / NHS Green Party
Immigration Conservatives
Welfare Conservatives
QuoteIt thinks that I should vote Tory, as I was 33% Tory, 22% BNP, 22% Green Party, 11% Lib Dem and 11% UKIP. I avoided accursed Labour entirely.
Neil getting greens a large amount :hmm:
Odd enough with them just being the greens, with the way they come across as schoolboy socialists one this site though its just bizzare.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 30, 2010, 07:33:39 AM
Your position on the environment is "Get rid of all the immigrants?" :rolleyes:
:lol:
Its what it comes down to.
Quote from: Martinus on March 30, 2010, 09:42:19 AM
Plus I consider you an idiot not only because you agree with UKIP on so many issues, but because you also agree with BNP, on Education of all places.
*cough* he's also an animetard :P
I had equal scores with Labour and the Lib Dems. Am I: a socialist?
Crime Green Party
Democracy Labour
Economy Lib Dems
Education Conservatives
Environment Labour
Europe Green Party
Health / NHS Labour
Immigration Lib Dems
Welfare Lib Dems
3 Labour, 3 LibDem and one green (education I think).
Edit: I didn't include immigration or environment. I think they are pretty unimportant atm.
Crime, Democracy, Europe - BNP
Economy, Education, Environment, Welfare - UKIP
Health - Green :yuk: although I didn't find any of them suitable
Immigration - Labour - well, the only good policy imho :bowler:
Agelastus's public character should be defended. He seems a man of good taste and character on the whole; Consider his previous avatar.
And he did not take much of a gamble, to speculate that his IQ exceeded martinus's, although it may have been in bad taste, as Martinus is unfairly crippled by severe degredation in his brain induced by pervasive hyperhomosexuality.
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 30, 2010, 12:29:43 PM
Agelastus's public character should be defended. He seems a man of good taste and character on the whole; Consider his previous avatar.
I predict this post will not help him.
Oh, what's not to like about erect cartoon nipples? :huh:
That is the question I am putting to the floor, yes.
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 30, 2010, 12:29:43 PM
Agelastus's public character should be defended. He seems a man of good taste and character on the whole; Consider his previous avatar.
Anime notwithstanding Agie seems like good peeps.
But trying to get into an IQ dick waving contest was still fucking stupid.
I actually agree with you. (Not about Anime, mind, but about Agelastus's character, and the stupidity of the IQ nizzerdry.)
Quote from: Martinus on March 30, 2010, 09:42:19 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on March 30, 2010, 08:17:52 AMAnd Martinus, I am genuinely interested in why you are so strongly against UKIPs policies that do not directly relate to membership of the European Union?
I admit I do not know a lot of UKIP policies, other than their desire to leave the EU, which in itself is the height of retardation. Other than that, they seem to me like a sort of BNP-lite - a populist nationalist party, which is only marginally better than outward BNP-style neonazis.
Plus I consider you an idiot not only because you agree with UKIP on so many issues, but because you also agree with BNP, on Education of all places.
The policy supported a return to Grammar Schools, which was the main reason that I picked the policy (I nearly skipped it because of the sole concentration on British history in the proposal, rather than a more general, "teach more history so the kids at least have some understanding of why our world is the way it is", concept which is what is really needed.)
I feel that Comprehensive schools seem to educate to the lowest common denominator, disadvantaging the best pupils, and reintroducing selection in state education would provide a driving force for improving education standards in general. At the moment, "improvement in education" seems merely to involve "make the exams easier so we can raise the pass rate".
Quote from: Barrister on March 30, 2010, 01:39:55 PM
But trying to get into an IQ dick waving contest was still fucking stupid.
Quote from: Lettow77 on March 30, 2010, 01:43:46 PM
I actually agree with you. (Not about Anime, mind, but about Agelastus's character, and the stupidity of the IQ nizzerdry.)
On reflection, I am forced to agree with you. It seems some of my buttons are easier to push than they should be on the internet. :Embarrass:
Still, one good thing may come out of this. This might finally drive me to doing something I've been thinking about doing for the last twenty years or so. I've been looking at the test dates and locations for supervised Mensa tests just now, and I think I'll book one; for my own satisfaction, of course, not for any "dick waving" on Languish.
It will be a good excuse to go shopping at Forbidden Planet in London, anyway. :)
More or less flipped a coin on a couple, but my results are:
Crime Conservatives
Democracy BNP
Economy Conservatives
Education UKIP
Environment UKIP
Europe Conservatives
Health / NHS UKIP
Immigration Conservatives
Welfare Conservatives
Gross, when I voted on all issues I got the Green Party as most similar.
Here's the breakdown of your results
* BNP 16.67%
* Green Party 33.33%
* Lib Dems 33.33%
* UKIP 16.67%
Crime BNP
Democracy Green Party
Economy Lib Dems
Education UKIP
Environment Green Party
Health / NHS Lib Dems
Based on your answers it looks like you should be voting for The Green Party, or The Lib Dems in the next general election.
Crime Green Party
Democracy Lib Dems
Economy Green Party
Education Conservatives
Environment Green Party
Europe Labour
Health / NHS Green Party
Immigration Green Party
Welfare Conservatives
Hmm... I did vote for Cynthia McKinney in the last Presidential election... :hmm:
I find it weird how many foreigners are gravitating to our extremes :o
Here's the breakdown of your results
* Labour 55.56%
* Lib Dems 33.33%
* Conservatives 11.11%
Issue Parties policies you chose
Crime Labour
Democracy Labour
Economy Lib Dems
Education Labour
Environment Labour
Europe Lib Dems
Health / NHS Lib Dems
Immigration Labour
Welfare Conservatives
Surprised by the welfare one.
Did this the other day:
Crime: UKIP
Democracy: Conservatives
Economy: UKIP
Education: UKIP
Environment: Lib Dems
Europe: Conservatives
Health/NHS: Conservatives
Immigration: UKIP
Welfare: Lib Dems
Nothing particularly good in the democracy category. Not surprised I'm liberal-conservative though (UKIP essentially being the Monday Club).
Definitely agree with UKIP on immigration (though apparently the Tory immigration minsiter agrees with it): if you come here you should already know English to a sufficient level, not have to learn it when you get here!
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 30, 2010, 07:14:17 AM
On a lot of that stuff, all the parties(except the fascists) sounded nearly exactly the same.
I loved that you could tell the BNP even on an issue like the environment because they want to use 'indigenous' coal :lol:
no coal mixing!
Crime Green Party
Democracy Labour
Economy Labour
Education Green Party
Environment UKIP
Europe Lib Dems
Health / NHS Green Party
Immigration Lib Dems
Welfare Green Party
Had to go for the UKIP on the environment (50% atomic sounds glorious) and the Greens' utopian socialist welfare policy. :bowler:
Quote from: Fate on April 02, 2010, 03:04:10 PM
Quote from: citizen k on April 01, 2010, 05:20:05 PM
Quote from: Fate on March 30, 2010, 12:02:48 PM
Am I: a socialist?
Was there ever any doubt?
But I believe in Conservative education! :yuk:
Even Texas Socialists are conservative by euro standards. :(
Quote from: Fate on April 02, 2010, 03:04:10 PM
But I believe in Conservative education! :yuk:
The Tories have the most interesting education policy. Vouchers for all, 'free schools' and so on, but unfortunately I think it's quite possibly just implausible right now. It'll be pretty expensive so it's more an intention than a policy.
Hopefully it'll prompt some more interesting thinking on education though :mellow: