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Title: Army captain decorated and reprimanded for the same battle
Post by: citizen k on March 11, 2010, 11:24:30 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/11/eveningnews/main6290133.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/11/eveningnews/main6290133.shtml)

QuoteIt was July of 2008, and according to Sgt. David Dzwick, they were short of not just troops, but basic necessities.

"The second day we were extremely low on water," Dzwick said. "When you start running out of water it's very hard to continue working through the heat of the day.

Despite warnings from villagers that an attack was imminent, an unmanned surveillance drone which had been watching over the troops was diverted to a higher priority mission.

"Not having surveillance was the concern for me," Dzwick said. "Part of the planning is that we would have some."

The first Apache helicopters got there an hour and five minutes after the Taliban opened fire. By then, Captain Myer was the only officer still alive.

Myer can still appeal but right now he has been both decorated and reprimanded for the same battle.
Title: Re: Army captain decorated and reprimanded for the same battle
Post by: Berkut on March 12, 2010, 12:15:47 AM
He was cited for bravery when the base came under attack, and reprimanded for not adequately preparing for that attack.

I don't know the details, but at least in theory that is not implausible.
Title: Re: Army captain decorated and reprimanded for the same battle
Post by: CountDeMoney on March 12, 2010, 05:53:35 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2010, 12:15:47 AM
He was cited for bravery when the base came under attack, and reprimanded for not adequately preparing for that attack.

I don't know the details, but at least in theory that is not implausible.

Quite frankly, it sounds very Soviet.
Title: Re: Army captain decorated and reprimanded for the same battle
Post by: Martinus on March 12, 2010, 05:59:26 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 12, 2010, 05:53:35 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2010, 12:15:47 AM
He was cited for bravery when the base came under attack, and reprimanded for not adequately preparing for that attack.

I don't know the details, but at least in theory that is not implausible.

Quite frankly, it sounds very Soviet.

Quite the contrary - Soviets would have only cited him for bravery in a situation like that. They were not sticklers for formalities.

Now, Wehrmacht, on the other hand...
Title: Re: Army captain decorated and reprimanded for the same battle
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on March 12, 2010, 06:35:14 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 12, 2010, 05:59:26 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 12, 2010, 05:53:35 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2010, 12:15:47 AM
He was cited for bravery when the base came under attack, and reprimanded for not adequately preparing for that attack.

I don't know the details, but at least in theory that is not implausible.

Quite frankly, it sounds very Soviet.

Quite the contrary - Soviets would have only cited him for bravery in a situation like that. They were not sticklers for formalities.

Now, Wehrmacht, on the other hand...

Or they'd reprimand then execute him, and then decorate him posthumously.
Title: Re: Army captain decorated and reprimanded for the same battle
Post by: The Brain on March 12, 2010, 07:31:56 AM
The Soviets liked to send people to mental hospitals. They still do.
Title: Re: Army captain decorated and reprimanded for the same battle
Post by: Syt on March 12, 2010, 09:18:35 AM
In Soviet Russia attack prepares for you.
Title: Re: Army captain decorated and reprimanded for the same battle
Post by: grumbler on March 13, 2010, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: Berkut on March 12, 2010, 12:15:47 AM
He was cited for bravery when the base came under attack, and reprimanded for not adequately preparing for that attack.

I don't know the details, but at least in theory that is not implausible.
Indeed.  The citation for bravery would get written a lot faster than the report of negligence, since the investigation for the latter would have to be more thorough.