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Title: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 02:17:37 AM
Lol, I got to give them props for such a ridiculous demand. :lmfao:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/03/american-family-associati_n_484022.html
QuoteThe American Family Association, a religious right group, is urging that Tillikum (Tilly), the killer whale that killed a trainer at SeaWorld Orlando, be put down, preferably by stoning. Citing Tilly's history of violent altercations, the group is slamming SeaWorld for not listening to Scripture in how to deal with the animal:

    Says the ancient civil code of Israel, "When an ox gores a man or woman to death, the ox shall be stoned, and its flesh shall not be eaten, but the owner shall not be liable."
(Exodus 21:28)

However, the group is going further and laying the blame for the trainer's death directly at the feet of Chuck Thompson, the curator in charge of animal behavior, because, according to Scripture,

    But, the Scripture soberly warns, if one of your animals kills a second time because you didn't kill it after it claimed its first human victim, this time you die right along with your animal. To use the example from Exodus, if your ox kills a second time, "the ox shall be stoned, and its owner also shall be put to death."
(Exodus 21:29)

SeaWorld has no plans to execute Tilly.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: The Brain on March 05, 2010, 02:19:51 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 02:17:37 AM
SeaWorld has no plans to execute Tilly.

Just Chuck?
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 02:28:09 AM
Quote from: The Brain on March 05, 2010, 02:19:51 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 02:17:37 AM
SeaWorld has no plans to execute Tilly.

Just Chuck?
Nice catch :lol:
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Martinus on March 05, 2010, 02:58:10 AM
Ok after stuff like this, you guys have no right to ever laugh at the bunch of Polish freaks that wanted to make Jesus the King of Poland - your religious freaks are crazier. :D

Incidentally, I sometimes wonder whether groups like AFA actually are full of sleeper liberal, gay and feminist activists. I mean nothing shows how ridiculous it is, for example, to base the modern stance on gay rights on Leviticus than demands like this.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: The Minsky Moment on March 05, 2010, 10:59:30 AM
Martinus:
Tough on religious fundamentalism.
Tough on gun possession.
Soft on killer whales.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 05, 2010, 11:05:22 AM
At this point, the animal should either be put down or released into the ocean; it obviously doesn't play well with people.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 12:41:28 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 05, 2010, 02:58:10 AM
Ok after stuff like this, you guys have no right to ever laugh at the bunch of Polish freaks that wanted to make Jesus the King of Poland - your religious freaks are crazier. :D

Incidentally, I sometimes wonder whether groups like AFA actually are full of sleeper liberal, gay and feminist activists. I mean nothing shows how ridiculous it is, for example, to base the modern stance on gay rights on Leviticus than demands like this.
I don't think it's unreasonable to demand that the animal be put down, though the method of course is unreasonable.

Nor is it unreasonable to argue that Seaworld should held responsible for knowingly keeping a dangerous animal, though of course calling for people to be executed is unreasonable.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 12:48:30 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 12:41:28 PM
...though of course killing for people to be executed is unreasonable.
:huh:
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 01:02:37 PM
That would be a lot of stones.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: sbr on March 05, 2010, 01:21:42 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 01:02:37 PM
That would be a lot of stones.

:lol:  Indeed.

I am sure exactly how you would stone a whale though.  If it was in the water it would be pretty hard to hit, especially hard enough to do any damage.  If it was on land, wouldn't die of something else before you could stone it to death?
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: The Brain on March 05, 2010, 01:22:52 PM
Quote from: sbr on March 05, 2010, 01:21:42 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 01:02:37 PM
That would be a lot of stones.

:lol:  Indeed.

I am sure exactly how you would stone a whale though.  If it was in the water it would be pretty hard to hit, especially hard enough to do any damage.  If it was on land, wouldn't die of something else before you could stone it to death?

Where there's a Willy there's a way.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 02:05:46 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 01:02:37 PM
That would be a lot of stones.
Not really.  You only need the one stone, a central plaza in which to carry out the stoning, and forty minutes or so of time.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 02:09:05 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 02:05:46 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 01:02:37 PM
That would be a lot of stones.
Not really.  You only need the one stone, a central plaza in which to carry out the stoning, and forty minutes or so of time.

Actually, it would have to be many stones to fill up the tank before the whale is even in range of been hit. ;)
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 02:09:05 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 02:05:46 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 01:02:37 PM
That would be a lot of stones.
Not really.  You only need the one stone, a central plaza in which to carry out the stoning, and forty minutes or so of time.

Actually, it would have to be many stones to fill up the tank before the whale is even in range of been hit. ;)
Actually, the one stone breaks the glass on the tank, the water drains out into the plaza, and the whale overheats and dies.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Malthus on March 05, 2010, 02:14:56 PM
It would be entertaining to watch these people gathered around his tank and attempting to stone him to death.

I wonder if he'd get some of them, once he realized they were trying to harm him.  ;)
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Syt on March 05, 2010, 02:17:28 PM
Quote from: Malthus on March 05, 2010, 02:14:56 PM
It would be entertaining to watch these people gathered around in his tank and attempting to stone him to death.

FYP
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 02:39:48 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 02:09:05 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 02:05:46 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 01:02:37 PM
That would be a lot of stones.
Not really.  You only need the one stone, a central plaza in which to carry out the stoning, and forty minutes or so of time.

Actually, it would have to be many stones to fill up the tank before the whale is even in range of been hit. ;)
Actually, the one stone breaks the glass on the tank, the water drains out into the plaza, and the whale overheats and dies.

If you could break the tank, yes, that would work.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Grey Fox on March 05, 2010, 02:49:44 PM
The one stone could also, with a very precise throw, block the whale blow hole.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 05, 2010, 03:08:49 PM
One stone could crush his skull, given sufficient size and velocity.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Syt on March 05, 2010, 03:09:33 PM
Or it could just be a very large stone, dropped from  crane.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 03:11:22 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 05, 2010, 03:09:33 PM
Or it could just be a very large stone, dropped from  crane.

No fun.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: The Brain on March 05, 2010, 03:12:14 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 05, 2010, 03:09:33 PM
Or it could just be a very large stone, dropped from  crane.

:huh: A thundercrane?
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Syt on March 05, 2010, 03:13:11 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 03:11:22 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 05, 2010, 03:09:33 PM
Or it could just be a very large stone, dropped from  crane.

No fun.

But thorough. And final. Kind of a final solution of the whale question.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: garbon on March 05, 2010, 05:11:22 PM
Why is it that the Families and Citizens are always so crazy?
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Malthus on March 05, 2010, 05:16:57 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 05, 2010, 05:11:22 PM
Why is it that the Families and Citizens are always so crazy?

Just wait until the AFA finds out that the killer whale is gay.  :D
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Martinus on March 05, 2010, 05:19:15 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 12:41:28 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 05, 2010, 02:58:10 AM
Ok after stuff like this, you guys have no right to ever laugh at the bunch of Polish freaks that wanted to make Jesus the King of Poland - your religious freaks are crazier. :D

Incidentally, I sometimes wonder whether groups like AFA actually are full of sleeper liberal, gay and feminist activists. I mean nothing shows how ridiculous it is, for example, to base the modern stance on gay rights on Leviticus than demands like this.
I don't think it's unreasonable to demand that the animal be put down, though the method of course is unreasonable.

Nor is it unreasonable to argue that Seaworld should held responsible for knowingly keeping a dangerous animal, though of course killing for people to be executed is unreasonable.

"Unreasonable"? This is fucking nuts. Tim, you are truly a retard.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: garbon on March 05, 2010, 05:32:19 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 12:48:30 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 12:41:28 PM
...though of course killing for people to be executed is unreasonable.
:huh:

Makes sense to me.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: garbon on March 05, 2010, 05:37:11 PM
Quote from: Martinus on March 05, 2010, 05:19:15 PM
"Unreasonable"? This is fucking nuts. Tim, you are truly a retard.

Don't be unreasonable.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 06:52:58 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 05, 2010, 05:32:19 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 12:48:30 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 12:41:28 PM
...though of course killing for people to be executed is unreasonable.
:huh:

Makes sense to me.
That's your problem, not mine.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Josquius on March 05, 2010, 06:55:45 PM
:lol:
Just imagine stoning to death a whale...would it even feel anything? :lol:
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: garbon on March 05, 2010, 07:11:11 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 06:52:58 PM
That's your problem, not mine.

You don't think it is unreasonable to kill people so that people will be executed?
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 07:13:20 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 05, 2010, 07:11:11 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 06:52:58 PM
That's your problem, not mine.

You don't think it is unreasonable to kill people so that people will be executed?
I think it is unreasonable to execute people without killing them.  Killing random people so people will be executed is unreasonable, but it is not unreasonable to kill some people so they will be executed.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: sbr on March 05, 2010, 08:11:50 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 07:13:20 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 05, 2010, 07:11:11 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 06:52:58 PM
That's your problem, not mine.

You don't think it is unreasonable to kill people so that people will be executed?
I think it is unreasonable to execute people without killing them.  Killing random people so people will be executed is unreasonable, but it is not unreasonable to kill some people so they will be executed.

I think I understood that. :worried:
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2010, 08:21:51 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 05, 2010, 06:55:45 PM
:lol:
Just imagine stoning to death a whale...would it even feel anything? :lol:
Killer whales are actually dolphins. :nerd:
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 08:56:20 PM
Quote from: sbr on March 05, 2010, 08:11:50 PM
I think I understood that. :worried:
If you did, I fucked up.  :blush:
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 08:58:54 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2010, 08:21:51 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 05, 2010, 06:55:45 PM
:lol:
Just imagine stoning to death a whale...would it even feel anything? :lol:
Killer whales are actually dolphins. :nerd:
So are pilot whales. :smarty:
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 09:16:38 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 12:48:30 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 12:41:28 PM
...though of course killing for people to be executed is unreasonable.
:huh:
Should have been calling.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Razgovory on March 05, 2010, 09:31:15 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 08:58:54 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2010, 08:21:51 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 05, 2010, 06:55:45 PM
:lol:
Just imagine stoning to death a whale...would it even feel anything? :lol:
Killer whales are actually dolphins. :nerd:
So are pilot whales. :smarty:

But are they really pilots?
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: lustindarkness on March 05, 2010, 10:46:20 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 05, 2010, 09:31:15 PM
Quote from: grumbler on March 05, 2010, 08:58:54 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2010, 08:21:51 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 05, 2010, 06:55:45 PM
:lol:
Just imagine stoning to death a whale...would it even feel anything? :lol:
Killer whales are actually dolphins. :nerd:
So are pilot whales. :smarty:

But are they really pilots?

Yes, but not licensed.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Martinus on March 06, 2010, 03:56:59 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2010, 08:21:51 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 05, 2010, 06:55:45 PM
:lol:
Just imagine stoning to death a whale...would it even feel anything? :lol:
Killer whales are actually dolphins. :nerd:

And dolphins are gay. Thus the killer whale is gay.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: grumbler on March 06, 2010, 09:00:22 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2010, 03:56:59 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2010, 08:21:51 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 05, 2010, 06:55:45 PM
:lol:
Just imagine stoning to death a whale...would it even feel anything? :lol:
Killer whales are actually dolphins. :nerd:

And dolphins are gay. Thus the killer whale is gay.
And thus he should be stoned. 

I love it when a plan comes together!
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: Martinus on March 06, 2010, 11:35:58 AM
Besides, dolphins are hippies and hippies get stoned all the time.
Title: Re: American Family Association: Stone To Death Killer Whale Who Killed Trainer
Post by: garbon on March 07, 2010, 04:51:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on March 06, 2010, 11:35:58 AM
Besides, dolphins are hippies and hippies get stoned all the time.

All sorts of people get stoned.