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Title: How safe is SF?
Post by: garbon on March 05, 2010, 01:25:42 AM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/03/BAV91CAGLG.DTL&tsp=1

QuoteThree cousins from Hayward have been charged in San Francisco with a hate crime and assault for allegedly firing a BB rifle at the face of a man they believed was gay, an attack the men videotaped, authorities said Wednesday.

Mohammad Habibzada, Shafiq Hashemi and Sayed Bassam, all 24, are scheduled to be arraigned today in San Francisco Superior Court. They are free on $50,000 bond apiece.

The victim of Friday's attack was walking on the 3200 block of 16th Street near Guerrero Street about 10 p.m. when a car pulled up and someone inside opened fire with a BB rifle, police said.

The man was hit in the face but refused medical treatment, said Lt. Lyn Tomioka, spokeswoman for the Police Department. He reported the shooting to police, who pulled over a car that matched the assailants' vehicle a short distance away and arrested the three Hayward men.

Investigators believe the assailants chose the victim because he appeared to be gay. When the men were pulled over, police found a video camera that was used to film the shooting, investigators said.

Assistant District Attorney Victor Hwang, the prosecutor in the case, said the men are cooperating in the investigation.

Authorities are looking into whether the attack was isolated or whether there have been similar BB gun shootings elsewhere in the Bay Area. Police have been unable to find victims to support any additional allegations, but Hwang said, "We believe we have the evidence to show that there was targeting of individuals who they believed to be gay."

He added, "We know about this one case. We want to know about if there are any other cases."

I often walk that way after class and used to walk that way to the clubs. :(
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: The Brain on March 05, 2010, 01:28:05 AM
QuoteMohammad Habibzada, Shafiq Hashemi and Sayed Bassam

I've heard enough. Guilty.

Good thing they only used the BB rifle though, if they had used its main guns things would have been a lot worse.
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: Jaron on March 05, 2010, 01:30:36 AM
At least in America, muslims actually go to jail.
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 01:31:20 AM
One incident does not a dangerous city make.
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: garbon on March 05, 2010, 01:37:18 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 01:31:20 AM
One incident does not a dangerous city make.

It does when it's your neighborhood!
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: Jaron on March 05, 2010, 01:39:08 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 05, 2010, 01:37:18 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 01:31:20 AM
One incident does not a dangerous city make.

It does when it's your neighborhood!
:homestar:
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on March 05, 2010, 02:01:59 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 01:31:20 AM
One incident does not a dangerous city make.

Haven't you seen the Dirty Harry series? SF is the worst crime-ridden hell hole in America, worse than Detroit!
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 05, 2010, 03:41:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 01:31:20 AM
One incident does not a dangerous city make.

I wouldn't want to be living in Hiroshima. ;)
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: The Brain on March 05, 2010, 03:42:05 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on March 05, 2010, 03:41:38 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 01:31:20 AM
One incident does not a dangerous city make.

I wouldn't want to be living in Hiroshima. ;)

:huh:
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 05, 2010, 03:45:32 AM
NUKES = BAD
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: The Brain on March 05, 2010, 03:46:19 AM
Oh fuck off you cocksmoking whore.
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: Caliga on March 05, 2010, 06:11:10 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 05, 2010, 01:37:18 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 01:31:20 AM
One incident does not a dangerous city make.

It does when it's your neighborhood!
Guess how many hate crimes have happened in my county this year?  Zero.  :)

Somehow city life is better, though. :huh:

Some crazy dude murdered his wife here last year, but that was the first murder in like a decade.
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: Josquius on March 05, 2010, 06:54:31 AM
They attacked someone by believing he was gay in SF?
And with that my prejudices about that city collapse.
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 05, 2010, 07:13:22 AM
Quote from: Tyr on March 05, 2010, 06:54:31 AM
They attacked someone by believing he was gay in SF?
And with that my prejudices about that city collapse.

If anything it should be reinforcing your prejudices about Mideasterners.
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: PDH on March 05, 2010, 08:21:41 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 05, 2010, 01:25:42 AM
Hayward
And those who laughed at me when I said a fence around Hayward was a good thing...where are they now?
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: garbon on March 05, 2010, 04:44:06 PM
Quote from: PDH on March 05, 2010, 08:21:41 AM
Quote from: garbon on March 05, 2010, 01:25:42 AM
Hayward
And those who laughed at me when I said a fence around Hayward was a good thing...where are they now?

I think the idea with the weakly reinforced Bay Bridge and Transbay Tube is that after the next earthquake, we'll be almost completely separated from the East Bay. :punk:
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: garbon on March 05, 2010, 04:45:44 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 05, 2010, 06:11:10 AM
Guess how many hate crimes have happened in my county this year?  Zero.  :)

Somehow city life is better, though. :huh:

That seems like Germany or Poland bragging about how there are now few hate crimes against Jews in their countries. :tinfoil:
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: Martinus on March 05, 2010, 04:48:10 PM
Stop immigration from Muslim countries. :)
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: derspiess on March 05, 2010, 04:54:36 PM
Isn't San Francisco a "sanctuary city"?  :bleeding:

http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-07-20/news/17173999_1_immigration-status-el-salvador-illegal-immigrant
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: garbon on March 05, 2010, 05:14:52 PM
Yes. Of course, when we started relocating said people elsewhere in California, those other parts got annoyed. :(
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: garbon on March 05, 2010, 05:16:04 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 05, 2010, 01:28:05 AM
Good thing they only used the BB rifle though, if they had used its main guns things would have been a lot worse.

I'm surprised that someone didn't tackle the car.
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: derspiess on March 05, 2010, 05:36:17 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 05, 2010, 05:14:52 PM
Yes. Of course, when we started relocating said people elsewhere in California, those other parts got annoyed. :(

How about relocating them back to their own damned countries (or, more realistically, letting the federal authorities do it)  ;)
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: Alexandru H. on March 05, 2010, 05:42:13 PM
I would pay some Muslims to hunt down the ones that created FtG.

Too bad they assaulted the wrong gay.
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: viper37 on March 05, 2010, 05:46:37 PM
Quote from: garbon on March 05, 2010, 01:37:18 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 05, 2010, 01:31:20 AM
One incident does not a dangerous city make.

It does when it's your neighborhood!
there was a gruesome murder not far from here, last summer.  I'm still in a safe city.
Title: Re: How safe is SF?
Post by: garbon on March 05, 2010, 05:56:14 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 05, 2010, 05:36:17 PM
How about relocating them back to their own damned countries (or, more realistically, letting the federal authorities do it)  ;)

Don't preach at me. I don't want to be a sanctuary city.