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Title: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Savonarola on March 03, 2010, 12:28:38 PM
Why can't children just stick to making sneakers at 50 cents an hour?

QuoteNew York airport jets 'directed by child' 
 

US officials are investigating how a child was apparently allowed to direct planes at New York's JFK airport - one of the country's busiest.

The probe comes after an audiotape caught the boy directing several pilots preparing for take-off last month.

In one exchange, the boy is heard saying: "JetBlue 171 contact departure." The pilot responds: "Over to departure JetBlue 171, awesome job."

The boy was apparently with his father - a certified air traffic controller.

The adult is later heard saying with a laugh: "That's what you get, guys, when the kids are out of school."

In another exchange, the child says: "MS 4-0-3, contact departure," and then adds: "Adios, amigo."

The pilot responds: "Adios, amigo."

The pilots on the tape appear to be not concerned that a child is giving them instructions.


The incident happened on 17 February, when many New York pupils were on a week-long break.

The age and name of the child and the adult on the audiotape were not immediately known.

'Not indicative' incident

The Federal Aviation Administration said in a statement: "Pending the outcome of our investigation, the employees involved in this incident are not controlling air traffic.

"This behaviour is not acceptable and does not demonstrate the kind of professionalism expected from all FAA employees."

The agency did not give any further details.

The National Air Traffic Controllers Association said the incident was "not indicative of the highest professional standards that controllers set for themselves and exceed each and every day in the advancement of aviation safely".
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: MadImmortalMan on March 03, 2010, 12:32:30 PM
I think it's cool.
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: DGuller on March 03, 2010, 12:33:19 PM
Pfft, in Russia, kids fly the plane (although only for short periods of time).
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Savonarola on March 03, 2010, 12:35:30 PM
Quote from: DGuller on March 03, 2010, 12:33:19 PM
Pfft, in Russia, kids fly the plane (although only for short periods of time).

:lol:

It's like Radiohead said: "Gravity always wins."
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Grey Fox on March 03, 2010, 12:37:25 PM
The kid sounds he was already trained for the job. What's the big deal?
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Savonarola on March 03, 2010, 12:39:47 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 03, 2010, 12:37:25 PM
The kid sounds he was already trained for the job. What's the big deal?

He wasn't a member of the Traffic Controller's union.
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Malthus on March 03, 2010, 12:40:40 PM
Quote from: DGuller on March 03, 2010, 12:33:19 PM
Pfft, in Russia, kids fly the plane (although only for short periods of time).

Heh, I saw that episode of Seconds From Disaster
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Jaron on March 03, 2010, 12:40:54 PM
It sounds like his dad was telling him what to say. It sounds like there was no risk to anyone and they are  only making a fuss about this really because they have to.
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: KRonn on March 03, 2010, 12:44:46 PM
Enhancing the "bring your child to work" day!  Let the kid do the work too.   
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Josquius on March 03, 2010, 12:46:21 PM
Quote from: Jaron on March 03, 2010, 12:40:54 PM
It sounds like his dad was telling him what to say. It sounds like there was no risk to anyone and they are  only making a fuss about this really because they have to.
Pretty much.
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on March 03, 2010, 12:47:54 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on March 03, 2010, 12:39:47 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 03, 2010, 12:37:25 PM
The kid sounds he was already trained for the job. What's the big deal?

He wasn't a member of the Traffic Controller's union.
We now come to the cusp of the matter.  That poor kid's legs will be broked by morning.
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Strix on March 03, 2010, 12:54:16 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 03, 2010, 12:47:54 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on March 03, 2010, 12:39:47 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 03, 2010, 12:37:25 PM
The kid sounds he was already trained for the job. What's the big deal?

He wasn't a member of the Traffic Controller's union.
We now come to the cusp of the matter.  That poor kid's legs will be broked by morning.

:showoff:
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: sbr on March 03, 2010, 01:06:52 PM
That's nothing, Dwight Schrute piloted a plane at the age of 4.
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Caliga on March 03, 2010, 01:08:34 PM
Quote from: DGuller on March 03, 2010, 12:33:19 PM
Pfft, in Russia, kids fly the plane (although only for short periods of time).
It's funny cause it's true.  :lol:
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Razgovory on March 03, 2010, 01:12:27 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on March 03, 2010, 12:37:25 PM
The kid sounds he was already trained for the job. What's the big deal?

I think the real fear is that the air traffic controllers are terrified that the public will find out how easy it is.
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Vince on March 03, 2010, 01:19:59 PM
It's not that tough.  I mean by that age me and my friends could land a plane on an aircraft carrier. 





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Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Caliga on March 03, 2010, 01:20:10 PM
So I'm guessing there will be an ATC job opening at JFK sometime in the near future. :)
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: The Brain on March 03, 2010, 01:21:21 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 03, 2010, 01:20:10 PM
So I'm guessing there will be an ATC job opening at JFK sometime in the near future. :)

Two. The dad will probably be fired as well.
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Caliga on March 03, 2010, 01:22:42 PM
Quote from: Vince on March 03, 2010, 01:19:59 PM
It's not that tough.  I mean by that age me and my friends could land a plane on an aircraft carrier. 
Hey, good point.  I played the shit out of Kennedy Approach on the C64 as a kid.

WHERES MY ATC JERB
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Jaron on March 03, 2010, 01:27:34 PM
It was IMPOSSIBLE to land on the carrier in Top Gun. It was like PULL UP! LEFT! RIGHT! UP!!!!!

and you would be like all level with the carrier and it'd show your jet blowing up in the middle of the ocean.  :yuk:
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: ulmont on March 03, 2010, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: Jaron on March 03, 2010, 01:27:34 PM
It was IMPOSSIBLE to land on the carrier in Top Gun. It was like PULL UP! LEFT! RIGHT! UP!!!!!

and you would be like all level with the carrier and it'd show your jet blowing up in the middle of the ocean.  :yuk:

I'm with Jaron on this.  No fucking way you were landing on the carrier in NES Top Gun.

See also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofM11nPzFo0
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Razgovory on March 03, 2010, 01:50:34 PM
Quote from: Vince on March 03, 2010, 01:19:59 PM
It's not that tough.  I mean by that age me and my friends could land a plane on an aircraft carrier. 





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I never could do that. :(  They'd give you a bunch of directions and at the end my plane would fall into the ocean.
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Vince on March 03, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: ulmont on March 03, 2010, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: Jaron on March 03, 2010, 01:27:34 PM
It was IMPOSSIBLE to land on the carrier in Top Gun. It was like PULL UP! LEFT! RIGHT! UP!!!!!

and you would be like all level with the carrier and it'd show your jet blowing up in the middle of the ocean.  :yuk:

I'm with Jaron on this.  No fucking way you were landing on the carrier in NES Top Gun.

See also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofM11nPzFo0

Once you figured it out it wasn't that hard.  As long as you kept the plane nose all the way up with the altitude and speed in the parameters it said (like 200 I think) more often than not you didn't crash. 

Damn now I'm going to have to pull this up on my emulator and see I can still do it. 
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: grumbler on March 03, 2010, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: The Brain on March 03, 2010, 01:21:21 PM
Quote from: Caliga on March 03, 2010, 01:20:10 PM
So I'm guessing there will be an ATC job opening at JFK sometime in the near future. :)

Two. The dad will probably be fired as well.
:lol:
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on March 03, 2010, 03:31:03 PM
Quote from: ulmont on March 03, 2010, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: Jaron on March 03, 2010, 01:27:34 PM
It was IMPOSSIBLE to land on the carrier in Top Gun. It was like PULL UP! LEFT! RIGHT! UP!!!!!

and you would be like all level with the carrier and it'd show your jet blowing up in the middle of the ocean.  :yuk:

I'm with Jaron on this.  No fucking way you were landing on the carrier in NES Top Gun.

See also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofM11nPzFo0
True. The Angry Video Game Nerd is almost always right.
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Drakken on March 03, 2010, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: Vince on March 03, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: ulmont on March 03, 2010, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: Jaron on March 03, 2010, 01:27:34 PM
It was IMPOSSIBLE to land on the carrier in Top Gun. It was like PULL UP! LEFT! RIGHT! UP!!!!!

and you would be like all level with the carrier and it'd show your jet blowing up in the middle of the ocean.  :yuk:

I'm with Jaron on this.  No fucking way you were landing on the carrier in NES Top Gun.

See also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofM11nPzFo0

Once you figured it out it wasn't that hard.  As long as you kept the plane nose all the way up with the altitude and speed in the parameters it said (like 200 I think) more often than not you didn't crash. 

Damn now I'm going to have to pull this up on my emulator and see I can still do it.

The second level is much worse. I've never been able to get that goddamn fuel tank canal attached to my F14, and I always ended up short of gas and crashing in the ocean. :mad:

I mean, a USAF air fuel supplier leaving me up there without fuel to crash and die? WTF?!
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Drakken on March 03, 2010, 05:09:06 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on March 03, 2010, 03:31:03 PM
Quote from: ulmont on March 03, 2010, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: Jaron on March 03, 2010, 01:27:34 PM
It was IMPOSSIBLE to land on the carrier in Top Gun. It was like PULL UP! LEFT! RIGHT! UP!!!!!

and you would be like all level with the carrier and it'd show your jet blowing up in the middle of the ocean.  :yuk:

I'm with Jaron on this.  No fucking way you were landing on the carrier in NES Top Gun.

See also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofM11nPzFo0
True. The Angry Video Game Nerd is almost always right.

Except for Deadly Towers. That game was the shitznit at age 8.

And I always kinda liked Friday the 13th. :unsure:

And TMNT. Man, how can you hate a TMNT game? That was awesome!
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Jaron on March 03, 2010, 05:55:08 PM
Deadly Towers is an awful, HORRIBLE game.

TMNT and Friday the 13th were great.


ALL YOUR FRIENDS ARE DEAD!
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Caliga on March 03, 2010, 05:59:51 PM
I love the Angry Nintendo Nerd.  His Ghostbusters for NES review was a classic.  :cool:
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Drakken on March 03, 2010, 06:07:38 PM
Quote from: Jaron on March 03, 2010, 05:55:08 PM
Deadly Towers is an awful, HORRIBLE game.

TMNT and Friday the 13th were great.


ALL YOUR FRIENDS ARE DEAD!

:lmfao:

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Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Cecil on March 03, 2010, 06:46:46 PM
I actually managed to beat Top Gun on NES.  :blush:
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: Savonarola on March 04, 2010, 01:58:35 PM
And in related news:

Quote'Fake pilot' arrested moments before take-off 

The Swedish man has been charged with forging papers and flying without a licence
A Swedish pilot without a valid licence to fly has been arrested at Amsterdam as he was about to fly a jet with 101 passengers to Turkey, Dutch police say.

The 41-year-old man said he had been flying for European airlines for 13 years and had logged 10,000 hours.

Police said he once had a licence to fly small planes but it had expired and it did not allow him to fly large jets.

Reports say the man was relieved his long deception was uncovered and tore off his pilot's stripes in the cockpit.

Turkey's Corendon Airlines said he had been flying for the airline for two years and had "expertly misled the company with his false papers".

The airline said it had been alerted by police and had a pilot standing by to fly the Boeing 737 from Amsterdam's Schiphol airport to Ankara.

Dutch police were acting on a tip-off from Swedish authorities.

The man is in custody awaiting trial for forging documents and flying without a licence.
Title: Re: New York airport jets 'directed by child'
Post by: The Brain on March 04, 2010, 02:00:04 PM
Parading without a license? :rolleyes: