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Title: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: jimmy olsen on February 20, 2010, 02:39:16 AM
1GB per second! I get 100MB per second here and I thought that was mind blowing! :o

http://www.slate.com/id/2245180/
QuoteFaster, Faster!Google's brilliant new plan to provide super-speedy Internet access.
By Farhad ManjooPosted Thursday, Feb. 18, 2010, at 5:00 PM ET

Last week, Google announced that it plans to launch an "experimental" broadband network in several cities across the country. In other words, Google will become an ISP—it will provide Internet access to a small number of customers (50,000 to 500,000, depending on the cities it chooses), serving as an alternative to the broadband service offered by phone and cable companies. The news itself wasn't much of a surprise. For years, Google has been buying up "dark fiber"—extremely fast fiber-optic lines that were built during the Internet boom of the late '90s and had since been lying fallow—and observers had expected that the search company would do something with it soon. Still, the scale of Google's plans is shocking. The company wants to build home Internet connections that run at 1 gigabit per second. That's 100 or 200 times faster than the connection you're using to read this story.

Why is Google doing this? Because its future depends on better broadband. Like all Web firms, everything Google does goes through other people's lines. What's worse, the companies that run those lines have shown little interest in innovation. Most things in Google's orbit advance at a breakneck pace—computers keep getting faster, hard drives keep getting bigger, software keeps getting better. But broadband is static; it's not getting much faster, cheaper, or more widespread. Broadband—especially broadband in America—is Google's limiting factor.

The company has been trying to fix American broadband for years. Google successfully lobbied the FCC to impose "open access" policies on next-generation mobile connections and has been pushing for the government to use "white spaces"—the radio spectrum in between old analog broadcast TV channels—for wireless Internet. But Google's efforts to revolutionize broadband haven't been especially successful. It had high hopes for municipal Wi-Fi systems, but many cities abandoned those plans after the firms responsible for a few dozen networks bungled the roll-out and eventually pulled the plug. (Google still provides free Wi-Fi access in its home city of Mountain View, Calif.). Google's plan to circumvent wireless carries by selling its Nexus One phone directly to consumers also doesn't look like it's going to hurt the telecom industry very much. According to one estimate, Google sold only 20,000 Nexus Ones in its first week (Verizon's Droid saw 250,000 first-week sales, while sales of the AT&T-exclusive iPhone 3GS topped 1.6 million).


Google's decision to operate an ISP is not something a normal business would do. The company admits that in the long run, it doesn't want to be in the business of providing Internet service. It wants to show customers the promise of high-speed Internet, but it understandably doesn't want to deal with the headaches of the ISP business like customer service and tech support. This is sort of like if I ran a (very profitable) company that made travel pillows and decided to launch my own airline to prove to existing carriers that they needed to do better (and, thus, would get more people to fly and use more pillows).

Circuitous as it is, though, the ISP initiative might actually work, especially if Google picks the right cities to serve. I'd urge it to go after a few high-profile tech hubs—places like San Francisco; Austin, Texas; Boston; or some areas around Washington, D.C., and New York—where there are loads of people who want (and can afford) super-fast Internet. If Google manages to steal phone and cable companies' best customers in these few areas, it could light a fire under the telecom industry to provide better service all over. That'll be especially true once people see all the possibilities of 1GB Internet lines. Super-fast broadband has the power to overthrow the business models of entire industries. As more and more people get access, we'll be able to quit our TV and phone plans, and we'll finally have the ability to store all our data in the Internet cloud. I can't wait.

Yet the way things are going now, I'm going to have to wait. Indeed, waiting is pretty much all we do on the Internet in America. According to Akamai, which publishes a quarterly "State of the Internet" report, the average connection speed in the United States is 3.8 megabits per second. That puts America at 18th in the world—below Denmark, the Czech Republic, Latvia, Romania, Hong Kong, Japan, and South Korea, the world's leader in connection speeds (its average speed is 11 megabits per second). What's more, we're falling further behind. A new report by Harvard's Berkman Center for Internet & Society that measures American broadband across several dimensions—speed, penetration, price—puts this country in the "middle of the pack" on "first-generation" broadband systems. We lag way behind, however, on next-generation systems. According to Akamai, nearly 10 percent of broadband customers in South Korea enjoy speeds of greater than 25 MBPS. In the United States, only 1 percent of customers get those speeds.

There's a simple reason we lag so far behind: American broadband companies face no real competition. Most of us can get the Internet in just two ways—through our local cable company or our local phone company—and a lot of us have only one provider. Telecom firms have you hooked, so they see no real incentive in improving their service. That's precisely why Google's effort could become a catalyst for change. Google already knows how to manage large, high-speed networks on the cheap; it runs the most advanced data centers in the world and has unmatched power in moving bits across continents. Google hasn't announced prices for 1GB Internet service, but its network prowess suggests it will be able to charge much less than phone or cable firms. In certain communities, cheap, fast broadband—combined with the satisfaction of kissing off your cable or phone company—will prove irresistible.

Of course, Google's efforts aren't altruistic. The faster our Internet access, the more money Google makes. As a result, the company is obsessive about speed, and its engineers are constantly looking for ways to rocket Google's content into our homes. Some of Google's most basic design choices were made out of a consideration for speed. Why do we get 10 results when we search for something, rather than 20 or 30? Because sending more results adds about a half-second of load time to each search. A half-second doesn't sound like much, but in Google's tests, the extra time turned people off; those who got 30 results instead of 10 conducted 25 percent fewer searches.

But it's not just Google that will benefit from a faster Internet. We all will. On a 1 GB line you'll be able to download a high-definition movie in just a few minutes. Because all your music will live on servers, you'll be able to access it everywhere. You'll get crystal-clear voice and video calls, and you'll have the ability to play graphics-intensive video games on remote consoles. Many businesses are already investing heavily in immersive video-conferencing systems that use HD cameras and projectors to create "lifelike" meetings between people on different continents; these systems, which require huge broadband pipes, could cut travel costs and boost teamwork between far-flung employees. Then there are the possibilities for remote robotic surgery—the promise that doctors far away could reach out through the Internet to fix you up, even if you live nowhere near a world-class hospital.

And those are just the fantasies we can dream of. The Internet, as we've all seen, is a foundational technology—a platform that constantly gives life to great things we'd never even thought of in the past. A faster Internet just boosts that promise. Let's all thank Google for investing in it.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: The Brain on February 20, 2010, 02:42:26 AM
Is there such a thing as too much porn?
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Caliga on February 21, 2010, 10:20:36 AM
We'll find out soon enough.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Josquius on February 21, 2010, 10:41:13 AM
Can't existing networks get this?
I'm sure when mine is as its fastest its freakishly fast....can't think of the number though. It looks all different on utorrent.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Warspite on February 21, 2010, 11:02:52 AM
If only there was stuff on the internet worth having a 1GB connection for.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Ed Anger on February 21, 2010, 11:06:31 AM
Quote from: Warspite on February 21, 2010, 11:02:52 AM
If only there was stuff on the internet worth having a 1GB connection for.

:yes:

Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Grey Fox on February 21, 2010, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: Tyr on February 21, 2010, 10:41:13 AM
Can't existing networks get this?
I'm sure when mine is as its fastest its freakishly fast....can't think of the number though. It looks all different on utorrent.

Existing, it depends where you are, in the US no.

In Japan, yes. In Sweden, no idea.

Simply put, American highspeed isn't highspeed at all.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Agelastus on February 21, 2010, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 21, 2010, 12:59:15 PM
Simply put, American highspeed isn't highspeed at all.

It shocked me that my internet connection in rural Northamptonshire is something like 2/3 faster than the American average (mine runs at 6 megabits per second.) I would have thought the reverse would be true.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: grumbler on February 21, 2010, 01:56:00 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on February 21, 2010, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 21, 2010, 12:59:15 PM
Simply put, American highspeed isn't highspeed at all.

It shocked me that my internet connection in rural Northamptonshire is something like 2/3 faster than the American average (mine runs at 6 megabits per second.) I would have thought the reverse would be true.
The US average in 2009 was 5.1 mbps.  Your connection is a bit faster than that, and a lot faster than the UK's early 2009 average of 3.6 mbps.
Nothing like Korea's 20 mpbs average, though.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: The Brain on February 21, 2010, 02:10:50 PM
America sucks.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Agelastus on February 21, 2010, 04:16:13 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 21, 2010, 01:56:00 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on February 21, 2010, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 21, 2010, 12:59:15 PM
Simply put, American highspeed isn't highspeed at all.

It shocked me that my internet connection in rural Northamptonshire is something like 2/3 faster than the American average (mine runs at 6 megabits per second.) I would have thought the reverse would be true.
The US average in 2009 was 5.1 mbps.  Your connection is a bit faster than that, and a lot faster than the UK's early 2009 average of 3.6 mbps.
Nothing like Korea's 20 mpbs average, though.

:hmm:

From the article -

QuoteAccording to Akamai, which publishes a quarterly "State of the Internet" report, the average connection speed in the United States is 3.8 megabits per second.

I was just quoting the article when comparing my speed. What's the source for your 5.1mpbs figure, out of interest?
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Barrister on February 21, 2010, 04:18:18 PM
My system is supposedly capable of 5 mbps, but I so rarely approach even that level that I figured the bottleneck is not in the final mile.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Fate on February 21, 2010, 05:00:46 PM
Pirates rejoice! Soon the entire selection of 2009 games, movies, and television series can be had in a matter of a few hours.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Agelastus on February 21, 2010, 05:35:00 PM
Fascinating.

If you believe the source that says US average speeds are around 3.8-4.0 mbps, then the USA ranks 17th in the world. If you believe the source that lists the average speeds as 5.1 mbps, then the USA ranks 28th in the world. That's quite a discrepancy.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Fate on February 21, 2010, 05:59:27 PM
We've had Luddite GOPtards in charge for the past decade. Of course our infrastructure is going to be antiquated.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: DontSayBanana on February 21, 2010, 06:11:13 PM
I foresee expensive as USB 1.0 only supports 1.5 Mbits/sec, and 2.0 only supports 480Mbits/sec; USB 3.0 apparently could support a transmission load this fast, but the adapters are barely present on the market as of this date.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: grumbler on February 21, 2010, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on February 21, 2010, 04:16:13 PM
I was just quoting the article when comparing my speed. What's the source for your 5.1mpbs figure, out of interest?
My source is http://cwafiles.org/speedmatters/state_reports_2009/CWA_Report_on_Internet_Speeds_2009.pdf (http://cwafiles.org/speedmatters/state_reports_2009/CWA_Report_on_Internet_Speeds_2009.pdf) The last Akamai report is a year old, and one has to have a subscription to see it, so I don't know where the Akamai data is from or how it compares.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Maximus on February 21, 2010, 08:23:04 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on February 21, 2010, 06:11:13 PM
I foresee expensive as USB 1.0 only supports 1.5 Mbits/sec, and 2.0 only supports 480Mbits/sec; USB 3.0 apparently could support a transmission load this fast, but the adapters are barely present on the market as of this date.

Who connects over usb?
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Zanza on February 21, 2010, 09:11:18 PM
Don't you connect via Ethernet or WiFi to a router? Who cares for USB speed? And Gigabit Ethernet isn't particularly expensive. A lot of mainboards have it these days AFAIK.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Grey Fox on February 21, 2010, 09:13:38 PM
It seems that Americans like to connect their highspeed modem to their computer using USB.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: grumbler on February 21, 2010, 10:18:46 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 21, 2010, 09:13:38 PM
It seems that Americans like to connect their highspeed modem to their computer using USB.
Really?  You have a cite on that, or are you just referring to DSB as "Americans?"

I don't know any of these "Americans" to whom you refer.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: ulmont on February 21, 2010, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 21, 2010, 10:18:46 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 21, 2010, 09:13:38 PM
It seems that Americans like to connect their highspeed modem to their computer using USB.
Really?  You have a cite on that, or are you just referring to DSB as "Americans?"

I don't know any of these "Americans" to whom you refer.

I've done it, and I've also used an 802.11 usb connector.  No cite for that proposition, mind you.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Grey Fox on February 21, 2010, 10:49:30 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 21, 2010, 10:18:46 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 21, 2010, 09:13:38 PM
It seems that Americans like to connect their highspeed modem to their computer using USB.
Really?  You have a cite on that, or are you just referring to DSB as "Americans?"

I don't know any of these "Americans" to whom you refer.

Yes, I was. Gross generalisation using someone who really doesn't represent the average.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: DontSayBanana on February 21, 2010, 11:10:26 PM
Quote from: Zanza on February 21, 2010, 09:11:18 PM
Don't you connect via Ethernet or WiFi to a router? Who cares for USB speed? And Gigabit Ethernet isn't particularly expensive. A lot of mainboards have it these days AFAIK.

Would you believe I actually forgot GbE for a second there?  Hoist upon my own petard. :blush:
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: Jaron on February 21, 2010, 11:11:45 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on February 21, 2010, 11:10:26 PM
Quote from: Zanza on February 21, 2010, 09:11:18 PM
Don't you connect via Ethernet or WiFi to a router? Who cares for USB speed? And Gigabit Ethernet isn't particularly expensive. A lot of mainboards have it these days AFAIK.

Would you believe I actually forgot GbE for a second there?  Hoist upon my own petard. :blush:

I believe you.
Title: Re: Google to launch 1gb per second broadband service
Post by: grumbler on February 22, 2010, 09:49:35 AM
Quote from: ulmont on February 21, 2010, 10:34:07 PM
I've done it, and I've also used an 802.11 usb connector.  No cite for that proposition, mind you.
But did you like to do it?