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Title: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Razgovory on December 18, 2009, 12:57:31 PM
I need a hobby, and I've always wanted to paint miniatures.  I think it would be good to keep my mind occupied and keep me quit.  Any idea where I could start?  Like paints and stuff?  Not sure what models I want.  I was thinking of some of these http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/range.php?range=BOB
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: katmai on December 18, 2009, 01:02:38 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 18, 2009, 12:57:31 PM
I need a hobby, and I've always wanted to paint miniatures.  I think it would be good to keep my mind occupied and keep me quit.  Any idea where I could start?  Like paints and stuff?  Not sure what models I want.  I was thinking of some of these http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/range.php?range=BOB

Grumbler is the man to talk about minis, though jacob has been doing or was doing a lot of research into different versions recently.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Tamas on December 18, 2009, 01:08:00 PM
At one time I also wanted to start painting minis, but then I realized the last thing I need is yet another highly antisocial hobby.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: The Brain on December 18, 2009, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 18, 2009, 01:02:38 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 18, 2009, 12:57:31 PM
I need a hobby, and I've always wanted to paint miniatures.  I think it would be good to keep my mind occupied and keep me quit.  Any idea where I could start?  Like paints and stuff?  Not sure what models I want.  I was thinking of some of these http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/range.php?range=BOB

Grumbler is the man to talk about minis, though jacob has been doing or was doing a lot of research into different versions recently.

:rolleyes:

Raz, I have some experience as well. Unlike the Alaskan goldfish some posters may remember my painting hundreds of minis and posting pics on Languish. I use mostly Games Workshop paints which may not be the absolute best but they are OK I think. I have looked at that mini range you linked before and it seems to be pretty cool.

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Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Syt on December 18, 2009, 02:41:54 PM
You know you want to.
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When going historical I'd go with 1/32 first. Painting a hundred 1/72 Napoleonic British Line Infantry can be, uhm, tiresome, especially when you pay attention to buttons, linings, straps ....
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Iormlund on December 18, 2009, 02:52:08 PM
Are those Undead yours Brain? They look great, except ... they are way too clean.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: The Brain on December 18, 2009, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on December 18, 2009, 02:52:08 PM
Are those Undead yours Brain? They look great, except ... they are way too clean.

:ultra: :ultra: :ultra:
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Jacob on December 18, 2009, 05:57:11 PM
Copplestone makes nice minis.  Since you're going for Back of Beyond type minis, I recommend you check out the forum at http://www.lead-adventure.de/ - a friendly bunch with a pretty strong Back of Beyond section.

As for paints Games Workshop is fine.  I have some Vallejo paints as well that are fine and I'm sure other manufacturers are decent.  As for technique, you can check out the forum above, they might give you some pointer, or browse the Games Workshop site - they have a bunch of painting tutorials there as well.  Lead Adventure also has a "how to" section in the workbench forum.

Have fun :)
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Ape on December 18, 2009, 06:33:54 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 18, 2009, 12:57:31 PM
Not sure what models I want. 

May I sugest http://www.flamesofwar.com/ (http://www.flamesofwar.com/) ? Awesome WW2 15mm models.

If you are interested I can borrow my parents digital camera over the crhistmas-new year holiday and take a few pics of my German Grossdeutschland Panzergrenadier company :thumbsup:
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: grumbler on December 18, 2009, 08:36:29 PM
I think The Braim is the one that you should be talking to, Raz.  I do Napoleonic, and that is not where you want to start unless you are part of a gaming group.  Something like the Back of Beyond range, or Space 1889 (which RAFM is bringing back) might be great for just the few figures you are likely to want to start with.

I'd start with water-based enamel paints, and then move over (as possible - can't do this with metallic colors) to craft acrylics.  The latter need a lot of practice to use, though, so don't start with them or you will quit in disgust.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Slargos on December 18, 2009, 08:50:04 PM
I am wavering between feeling respect and horror at the thought of you guys actually sitting down to pain an entire army of little tin men.

Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Jacob on December 18, 2009, 08:55:55 PM
Quote from: grumbler on December 18, 2009, 08:36:29 PMI'd start with water-based enamel paints, and then move over (as possible - can't do this with metallic colors) to craft acrylics.  The latter need a lot of practice to use, though, so don't start with them or you will quit in disgust.

Water based enamels?  What are their advantage compared to craft acrylics?  And by craft acrylics do you mean the "standard" miniature acrylics available from Games Workshop, Vallejo, Foundry, Reaper and so on?
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: PRC on December 18, 2009, 09:58:42 PM
If you don't want to build an army and get into that whole aspect of it but just want to paint don't go for the miniatures at all but go straight to the statuette style figures.

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Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Razgovory on December 18, 2009, 11:46:34 PM
I chose the copplestone because the minis are a decent size (20mm), varied, attractive, and in small sets.  Also alot of the subjects are cool.  I may never end up using them but if I do it'll likely be for RPGs rather then wargames.


Thanks for the good advice here.  A quite constructive hobby might do me some good.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: katmai on December 18, 2009, 11:55:04 PM
what can i say brainiac, you are forgettable.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: citizen k on December 19, 2009, 03:51:18 AM
Baccus 6mm Successor army

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Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Syt on December 19, 2009, 04:10:08 AM
Personally, I prefer dioramas.
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Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Iormlund on December 19, 2009, 08:26:16 AM
Quote from: The Brain on December 18, 2009, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on December 18, 2009, 02:52:08 PM
Are those Undead yours Brain? They look great, except ... they are way too clean.

:ultra: :ultra: :ultra:

Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine. Games Workshop dudes paint their Undead minis like that as well. I can't quite comprehend why. They are supposed to have been rusting and exposed to the elements for up to several thousand years (especially Khemri armies).
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Razgovory on December 19, 2009, 08:49:12 AM
Okay.  I'm thinking of getting the http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1430027&prodId=prod1095437

Seems like a good place to start.  Paints, glues, basing, that sorta stuff.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: The Brain on December 19, 2009, 10:20:33 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on December 19, 2009, 08:26:16 AM
Quote from: The Brain on December 18, 2009, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on December 18, 2009, 02:52:08 PM
Are those Undead yours Brain? They look great, except ... they are way too clean.

:ultra: :ultra: :ultra:

Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine. Games Workshop dudes paint their Undead minis like that as well. I can't quite comprehend why. They are supposed to have been rusting and exposed to the elements for up to several thousand years (especially Khemri armies).

They have stayed in the dry desert, getting bleached by the sun and they don't use iron. Some iron armed dude crawling out of a swamp in the Empire would be a different matter.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: The Brain on December 19, 2009, 10:24:03 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 19, 2009, 08:49:12 AM
Okay.  I'm thinking of getting the http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1430027&prodId=prod1095437

Seems like a good place to start.  Paints, glues, basing, that sorta stuff.

:thumbsup: Sensible.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Iormlund on December 19, 2009, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 19, 2009, 10:20:33 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on December 19, 2009, 08:26:16 AM
Quote from: The Brain on December 18, 2009, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on December 18, 2009, 02:52:08 PM
Are those Undead yours Brain? They look great, except ... they are way too clean.

:ultra: :ultra: :ultra:

Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine. Games Workshop dudes paint their Undead minis like that as well. I can't quite comprehend why. They are supposed to have been rusting and exposed to the elements for up to several thousand years (especially Khemri armies).

They have stayed in the dry desert, getting bleached by the sun and they don't use iron. Some iron armed dude crawling out of a swamp in the Empire would be a different matter.

:huh: Cloth and copper age as well, it is not a phenomenon restricted to iron.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: The Brain on December 19, 2009, 12:43:00 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on December 19, 2009, 12:14:14 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 19, 2009, 10:20:33 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on December 19, 2009, 08:26:16 AM
Quote from: The Brain on December 18, 2009, 03:34:12 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on December 18, 2009, 02:52:08 PM
Are those Undead yours Brain? They look great, except ... they are way too clean.

:ultra: :ultra: :ultra:

Sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine. Games Workshop dudes paint their Undead minis like that as well. I can't quite comprehend why. They are supposed to have been rusting and exposed to the elements for up to several thousand years (especially Khemri armies).

They have stayed in the dry desert, getting bleached by the sun and they don't use iron. Some iron armed dude crawling out of a swamp in the Empire would be a different matter.

:huh: Cloth and copper age as well, it is not a phenomenon restricted to iron.

Rusting is.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Bluebook on December 20, 2009, 02:30:05 PM
Ok, so after painting them, what do you guys do with them?
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: The Brain on December 20, 2009, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: Bluebook on December 20, 2009, 02:30:05 PM
Ok, so after painting them, what do you guys do with them?

I put them in my closet. I am: CdM of tabletop gaming.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: The Brain on December 20, 2009, 03:05:38 PM
Actually this thread has gotten me thinking about finally painting my Baccus 6 mm Great Northern War armies.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Josquius on December 20, 2009, 04:51:18 PM
Remortgage your house if you're getting into warhammer....they're damn expensive and getting worse by the year.


Quote from: The Brain on December 18, 2009, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 18, 2009, 01:02:38 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 18, 2009, 12:57:31 PM
I need a hobby, and I've always wanted to paint miniatures.  I think it would be good to keep my mind occupied and keep me quit.  Any idea where I could start?  Like paints and stuff?  Not sure what models I want.  I was thinking of some of these http://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/range.php?range=BOB

Grumbler is the man to talk about minis, though jacob has been doing or was doing a lot of research into different versions recently.

:rolleyes:

Raz, I have some experience as well. Unlike the Alaskan goldfish some posters may remember my painting hundreds of minis and posting pics on Languish. I use mostly Games Workshop paints which may not be the absolute best but they are OK I think. I have looked at that mini range you linked before and it seems to be pretty cool.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falb99%2FSlayhem%2FBild019.jpg&hash=1dc3c4567b71f38413be3bb9ebc37a771733aa0d)

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What are the vikings from?
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Razgovory on December 20, 2009, 06:28:23 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 19, 2009, 04:10:08 AM
Personally, I prefer dioramas.
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I can see why.  Only in your world do the Soviets eat the living Germans during battle.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: The Brain on December 21, 2009, 12:36:09 PM
Quote from: Tyr on December 20, 2009, 04:51:18 PM
What are the vikings from?

Foundry.

http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/VIK/index.asp
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on December 21, 2009, 06:44:13 PM
Music goes well with the painting............I suggest you also investigate expanding your musical interests once you start painting.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Bluebook on December 22, 2009, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 20, 2009, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: Bluebook on December 20, 2009, 02:30:05 PM
Ok, so after painting them, what do you guys do with them?

I put them in my closet. I am: CdM of tabletop gaming.

Your hobby is weird. But thats ok, I wont judge.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Razgovory on January 09, 2010, 06:13:49 PM
My little dudes came today!  I have a friend who has done of model painting before and might help me pick up some paint and brushes.
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: katmai on January 10, 2010, 03:28:50 AM
Which ones did you get?
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Razgovory on January 10, 2010, 04:14:37 AM
Quote from: katmai on January 10, 2010, 03:28:50 AM
Which ones did you get?

I got 3 packs of 4 guys from Copplestone.

The American adventuers

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The European advisors

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They don't seem to be painted here.

And these nefarious looking Germans

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They came awfully quick from Britain.  Less then a week.  Now I'll just need some paints (a friend is helping get some) and I'm set to waste time!
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: Syt on January 10, 2010, 04:26:15 AM
Oooooh, those would go well with a Quatermain adventure or something Steampunkish. :nerd:
Title: Re: So I'm thinking of getting into painting minis
Post by: The Brain on January 10, 2010, 05:20:51 AM
They look like really nice figures. One thing I like when I've painted fairly similar figs is that they have the right amount of detail, not too much and not too little. GW figs are often completely overloaded with details which can make painting them a chore.