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Title: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: Brazen on November 25, 2009, 05:58:24 AM
Is it advertisement or advertizement? Far as I can tell, either is acceptable, but I need to know which is RIGHT, dammit!
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: Brazen on November 25, 2009, 06:04:17 AM
Don't worry, found a wandering Yank hereabouts. Ess not Zee.
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Post by: Tonitrus on November 25, 2009, 06:11:36 AM
Yeah, "Z" would be weird.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: CountDeMoney on November 25, 2009, 06:29:38 AM
Quote from: Brazen on November 25, 2009, 05:58:24 AM
Is it advertisement or advertizement? Far as I can tell, either is acceptable, but I need to know which is RIGHT, dammit!

Yikez, az long az you found out that advertizement is not acceptable.

Too Eastern Bloc.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: The Brain on November 25, 2009, 07:07:53 AM
Z? WTF
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Post by: Josquius on November 25, 2009, 07:24:32 AM
You put Zs in everything else so why not?
Semi-logical question: but then of course you don't pronounce it advertisement you butcher it into Advertiss. Ment.
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Post by: Admiral Yi on November 25, 2009, 07:32:14 AM
Quote from: Tyr on November 25, 2009, 07:24:32 AM
Semi-logical question: but then of course you don't pronounce it advertisement you butcher it into Advertiss. Ment.
:huh:
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: DontSayBanana on November 25, 2009, 09:45:17 AM
Some yanks I hear call it ad-VER-diz-mint.  I'm one of the group that says AD-ver-TIZE-mint.

And there's no such word, even in American English, as "advertizement."  Neologisms FTW.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: Jaron on November 25, 2009, 09:49:21 AM
Unlike British, who are unhappy with their malformed language they can't pronounce correctly, WE Americans take pride in our words making sense.
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Post by: Eddie Teach on November 25, 2009, 09:56:46 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on November 25, 2009, 09:45:17 AM
Some yanks I hear call it ad-VER-diz-mint. 

I thought that was a Brit thing. Except with a hard t.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: DontSayBanana on November 25, 2009, 10:08:34 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 25, 2009, 09:56:46 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on November 25, 2009, 09:45:17 AM
Some yanks I hear call it ad-VER-diz-mint. 

I thought that was a Brit thing. Except with a hard t.

Britanniaphiles.  Also, some of the higher ranks of the grammar nazis contain people who obnoxiously insist on Queen's English on the basis of snobbery.
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Post by: Josquius on November 25, 2009, 10:24:17 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 25, 2009, 09:56:46 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on November 25, 2009, 09:45:17 AM
Some yanks I hear call it ad-VER-diz-mint. 

I thought that was a Brit thing. Except with a hard t.
I've only ever heard it in American English. Advert-iss-ment is a very American thing to say.
In British English its the regular word advertise with ment on the end. Or just advert.
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Post by: Tamas on November 25, 2009, 10:31:35 AM
Z?  :huh:
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Post by: Eddie Teach on November 25, 2009, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: Tamas on November 25, 2009, 10:31:35 AM
Z?  :huh:

Well, it does rhyme with prize and size.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on November 25, 2009, 11:01:41 AM
I always thought commercial was the correct Yank spelling  :huh:
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Post by: Capetan Mihali on November 25, 2009, 11:11:35 AM
Never heard anyone pronounce it "advertissment" except in jest.   :huh:
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: Eddie Teach on November 25, 2009, 11:49:33 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 25, 2009, 11:01:41 AM
I always thought commercial was the correct Yank spelling  :huh:

Usually we just use commercial for ads on tv.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on November 25, 2009, 11:55:25 AM
Ok, thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: dps on November 25, 2009, 12:33:41 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on November 25, 2009, 11:11:35 AM
Never heard anyone pronounce it "advertissment" except in jest.   :huh:

I've never heard an American pronounce it that way, either. 

I think that I've heard characters in movies or TV shows pronounce it that way, but those characters were supposed to be British.  I suppose that they could have been Americans using a fake British accent and getting it wrong.
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Post by: DisturbedPervert on November 25, 2009, 12:42:31 PM

I don't think I've heard it like that either, except from people pretending to be British.
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Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on November 25, 2009, 01:31:17 PM
Some Canadians sat "ad-VER-tizz-ment", but mostly you hear "tize" not "tizz". or commercial, or just "ad"
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Post by: Sheilbh on November 25, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
Quote from: Tyr on November 25, 2009, 10:24:17 AM
I've only ever heard it in American English. Advert-iss-ment is a very American thing to say.
In British English its the regular word advertise with ment on the end. Or just advert.
I think it's the other way round.  I pronounce it advert-iss-ment :mellow:
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Post by: garbon on November 25, 2009, 06:17:51 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 25, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
Quote from: Tyr on November 25, 2009, 10:24:17 AM
I've only ever heard it in American English. Advert-iss-ment is a very American thing to say.
In British English its the regular word advertise with ment on the end. Or just advert.
I think it's the other way round.  I pronounce it advert-iss-ment :mellow:

Yes, expecting Jos to have his finger on the pulse of...well anywhere, is foolish.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: garbon on November 25, 2009, 06:18:22 PM
Quote from: Tyr on November 25, 2009, 10:24:17 AM
Or just advert.

Why say advert when one can say ad?
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: garbon on November 25, 2009, 06:19:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 25, 2009, 11:01:41 AM
I always thought commercial was the correct Yank spelling  :huh:


We do not typically have commercials on the side of our buses, although some modern bus stops now feature them.
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Post by: Admiral Yi on November 25, 2009, 08:04:51 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 25, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
I think it's the other way round.  I pronounce it advert-iss-ment :mellow:
Getting the American pronounciation wrong is not a real shocker, but getting the UK pronounciation wrong is a real stumper.
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Post by: Strix on November 25, 2009, 09:02:05 PM
I find it funny when Brits (and pretentious Americans) pronounce schedule with a silent c making it sound like shedule. I always ask what shool they attended.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: garbon on November 25, 2009, 09:15:38 PM
Quote from: Strix on November 25, 2009, 09:02:05 PM
I find it funny when Brits (and pretentious Americans) pronounce schedule with a silent c making it sound like shedule. I always ask what shool they attended.

School of hard knocks, baby! :punk:

edit: Or as they say in the UK, as wiki has informed me, the University of Life.*

*As an American that sounds like an anti-choice position.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: Eddie Teach on November 25, 2009, 09:32:35 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 25, 2009, 09:15:38 PM
*As an American that sounds like an anti-choice position.

Not really.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: garbon on November 25, 2009, 09:33:27 PM
Yes really.
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Post by: Jaron on November 25, 2009, 09:34:38 PM
 :cry:
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Post by: Eddie Teach on November 25, 2009, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 25, 2009, 09:33:27 PM
Yes really.

Well, I suppose it does to the same extent the terms still life, charmed life, lifeboat and My So-Called Life do.

But it really sounds like what someone says who didn't go to college.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: Sheilbh on November 25, 2009, 10:34:14 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 25, 2009, 08:04:51 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 25, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
I think it's the other way round.  I pronounce it advert-iss-ment :mellow:
Getting the American pronounciation wrong is not a real shocker, but getting the UK pronounciation wrong is a real stumper.
I think it's maybe a North-South thing.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: jimmy olsen on November 25, 2009, 11:21:59 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 25, 2009, 10:34:14 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 25, 2009, 08:04:51 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 25, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
I think it's the other way round.  I pronounce it advert-iss-ment :mellow:
Getting the American pronounciation wrong is not a real shocker, but getting the UK pronounciation wrong is a real stumper.
I think it's maybe a North-South thing.
But presumably he's spoken with people from the south and heard them on tv often.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: Josquius on November 26, 2009, 12:24:33 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 25, 2009, 06:00:45 PM
Quote from: Tyr on November 25, 2009, 10:24:17 AM
I've only ever heard it in American English. Advert-iss-ment is a very American thing to say.
In British English its the regular word advertise with ment on the end. Or just advert.
I think it's the other way round.  I pronounce it advert-iss-ment :mellow:
How odd.
As I said I've only ever heard that pronounciation from American TV.
Saying it that way it sounds very foreign to my ears.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on November 26, 2009, 12:44:25 PM
I just call them adverts, if I said the word in full I'm not sure which pronounciation I would go with.............which would support the theory that it's a North-South thing.
Title: Re: American spelling - Yanks to me!
Post by: Sheilbh on November 26, 2009, 09:37:39 PM
Quote from: Tyr on November 26, 2009, 12:24:33 PM
How odd.
As I said I've only ever heard that pronounciation from American TV.
Saying it that way it sounds very foreign to my ears.
Same for advertise-ment for me, it sounds clunky.  Again I would have guessed that was the American pronunciation.