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Title: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Syt on October 22, 2009, 02:16:36 PM
DW: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders  (http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4816766,00.html)

QuotePolish lawmakers have approved controversial legislation aimed at minimizing the risk of repeat offenses by convicted pedophiles.

Poland's upper house of parliament overwhelmingly passed a bill on Thursday that makes chemical castration mandatory for convicted paedophiles after their release from prison.

The former Polish justice minister Włodzimierz Cimoszewicz, who was the only lawmaker to abstain from the vote, warned during the parliamentary debate that a therapy forced upon a patient may infringe human rights.

A representative of the justice ministry countered that the envisaged chemical castration only dampened the sexual drive of offenders for a limited period and did not erase it for good.

The new legislation, which was already approved by the lower house last week, comes in the wake of a drastic case of rape incest in Poland which was reminiscent of the crimes of Austria's Josef Fritzl.

Widespread support for new law

Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk had called for stricter punishment for sex offenders after a serious case of incestuous rape came to light in September. In that case, a 45-year old man was charged with repeatedly raping his daughter who subsequently bore him two children.

"I want ... to introduce in Poland the most rigorous law possible regarding criminals who rape children," Tusk had said, announcing the measures at the time.

Seven hundred cases of paedophilia are reported to police in Poland each year, according to Polish justice officials.

Surveys show that most Poles favor the new bill, but human rights groups are threathening legal action, saying that the law is not only open to abuse but also likely to be ineffective in tackling sex crimes.

European Parliament members have also critized the bill, but at the same time they said that the bloc's authority in this case was limited, since criminal law was a matter for the individual member states.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Neil on October 22, 2009, 02:17:13 PM
Martinus is in big trouble.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: MadImmortalMan on October 22, 2009, 02:17:41 PM

BUT DO THEY MAKE COFFEE IN THE NUDE?
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Ape on October 22, 2009, 02:18:40 PM
Starting to sound like Mooslem laws..... will the Poles starting to cut people hands when they steal as well?

Stupid.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: DGuller on October 22, 2009, 02:21:03 PM
Typical Polish prudes.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: alfred russel on October 22, 2009, 02:22:40 PM
What does the Catholic Church say about this?
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:23:50 PM
LOL Poland never ceases to amaze me.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: ulmont on October 22, 2009, 02:29:51 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:23:50 PM
LOL Poland never ceases to amaze me.

California, Iowa, Florida, and Louisiana all have some form of mandatory chemical castration for sex offenders, and Georgia, Texas, Montana, and Wisconsin have some sort of potentially non-mandatory option: http://www.jaapl.org/cgi/reprint/31/4/502.pdf
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:34:50 PM
LOL, I just heard this on a podcast!

<insert long winded attack>
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:37:21 PM
Quote from: ulmont on October 22, 2009, 02:29:51 PM
California, Iowa, Florida, and Louisiana all have some form of mandatory chemical castration for sex offenders, and Georgia, Texas, Montana, and Wisconsin have some sort of potentially non-mandatory option: http://www.jaapl.org/cgi/reprint/31/4/502.pdf

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Wow some of you people are really dense you know that?  I was obviously sarcastically mocking Marty.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:38:02 PM
that show sucks.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:38:31 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:38:02 PM
that show sucks.

:o

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:39:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:38:31 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:38:02 PM
that show sucks.

:o

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

Sucks big green donkey balls.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Syt on October 22, 2009, 02:39:13 PM
That in the background the guy who played David (Darlene's boyfriend) on Rosanne?
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:39:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:39:04 PM
Sucks big green donkey balls.

You, sir, are worse than a version of Hitler with very poor taste in TV shows.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: Syt on October 22, 2009, 02:39:13 PM
That in the background the guy who played David (Darlene's boyfriend) on Rosanne?

Yep there is a Rosanne cast reunion thing going on with that show.  The actress who played Darlene herself is in it.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:42:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:39:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:39:04 PM
Sucks big green donkey balls.

You, sir, are worse than a version of Hitler with very poor taste in TV shows.

Good. CBS Monday night is about as watchable as watching flies fuck.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Syt on October 22, 2009, 02:42:08 PM
I liked Rosanne. Reminded me of my family (well, before they ran successful business or became rich). Only that the Connors showed any feelings towards their kids.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Berkut on October 22, 2009, 02:42:23 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: Syt on October 22, 2009, 02:39:13 PM
That in the background the guy who played David (Darlene's boyfriend) on Rosanne?

Yep there is a Rosanne cast reunion thing going on with that show.  The actress who played Darlene herself is in it.

Her character is awesome.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:42:06 PM
Good. CBS Monday night is about as watchable as watching flies fuck.

:weep:
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:42:06 PM
Good. CBS Monday night is about as watchable as watching flies fuck.

:weep:

You people have ruined television. Bring back JAG.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:43:47 PM
You people have ruined television. Bring back JAG.

Meh go watch CSI:Topeka.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:45:47 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:43:47 PM
You people have ruined television. Bring back JAG.

Meh go watch CSI:Topeka.

AWESOME.

NCIS: DIEGO GARCIA
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Syt on October 22, 2009, 02:46:01 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:43:47 PM
Bring back JAG.

An ex of mine loved that show. :x
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: Syt on October 22, 2009, 02:46:01 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:43:47 PM
Bring back JAG.

An ex of mine loved that show. :x

I kept hoping Catherine Bell would be stripped of her uniform.  :(
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Syt on October 22, 2009, 02:48:32 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: Syt on October 22, 2009, 02:46:01 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:43:47 PM
Bring back JAG.

An ex of mine loved that show. :x

I kept hoping Catherine Bell would be stripped of her uniform.  :(

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I had a Dana Scully/Cmdr Ivanova infatuation at the time.  :blush:

P.S.: weirdest hijack ever.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: ulmont on October 22, 2009, 02:49:10 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:37:21 PM
Wow some of you people are really dense you know that?  I was obviously sarcastically mocking Marty.

:blush:

QuoteAccording to recent research published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, I've only a 50-50 chance of ascertaining the [serious or sarcastic] tone of any e-mail message. The study also shows that people think they've correctly interpreted the tone of e-mails they receive 90 percent of the time.
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/02/70179

I love the pic though.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:49:32 PM
Quote from: Syt on October 22, 2009, 02:48:32 PM


P.S.: weirdest hijack ever.

Marty "footjob" Polack bores me.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 22, 2009, 02:51:32 PM
Quote from: Syt on October 22, 2009, 02:48:32 PM
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Now there's a good argument for the push up bra.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: ulmont on October 22, 2009, 04:19:20 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 02:37:21 PM
I was obviously sarcastically mocking Marty.

Also, we should mandate use of the sarcastic font: http://glennmcanally.com/sarcastic/
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Neil on October 22, 2009, 05:34:47 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:43:47 PM
You people have ruined television. Bring back JAG.
That's just terrible.  I guess watching the Bengals has ruined your sense of what is good and what is not.

I blame Akili Smith.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 05:36:21 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 22, 2009, 05:34:47 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:43:47 PM
You people have ruined television. Bring back JAG.
That's just terrible.  I guess watching the Bengals has ruined your sense of what is good and what is not.

I blame Akili Smith.

David Klingler actually.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Neil on October 22, 2009, 05:37:17 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 05:36:21 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 22, 2009, 05:34:47 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:43:47 PM
You people have ruined television. Bring back JAG.
That's just terrible.  I guess watching the Bengals has ruined your sense of what is good and what is not.

I blame Akili Smith.

David Klingler actually.
Boomer Esiason is still an ass.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Scipio on October 22, 2009, 07:25:43 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:38:02 PM
that show sucks.
Dude.  You are hardly ever wrong.  But on this, you are wrong.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: garbon on October 22, 2009, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: ulmont on October 22, 2009, 04:19:20 PM
Also, we should mandate use of the sarcastic font: http://glennmcanally.com/sarcastic/

Because you are brain dead and missed the whole slew of attacks on Marty? :yeahright:
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: ulmont on October 22, 2009, 08:57:13 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 22, 2009, 08:24:29 PM
Quote from: ulmont on October 22, 2009, 04:19:20 PM
Also, we should mandate use of the sarcastic font: http://glennmcanally.com/sarcastic/

Because you are brain dead and missed the whole slew of attacks on Marty? :yeahright:

Just missed the one attack, thanks.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Maximus on October 22, 2009, 09:06:46 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:38:02 PM
that show sucks.
What show is it?
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: ulmont on October 22, 2009, 09:53:16 PM
Quote from: Maximus on October 22, 2009, 09:06:46 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 22, 2009, 02:38:02 PM
that show sucks.
What show is it?

Big Bang Theory.  Ed's insane, btw; the show is great.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 02:25:56 AM
Uhm this is last month news. I posted that last month when we were talking about Polanski, to show Polish government's hypocrisy in defending him.

Good job, Syt.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 02:27:12 AM
QuoteThe former Polish justice minister Włodzimierz Cimoszewicz, who was the only lawmaker to abstain from the vote, warned during the parliamentary debate that a therapy forced upon a patient may infringe human rights.

LOL that's some stellar reporting right there. The guy is not even in the Parliament. It was a former health minister who voted against it.

Where do you take these news about Poland from, Syt? It's not the first time they have factual errors like this.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Syt on October 23, 2009, 02:28:11 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 02:25:56 AMGood job, Syt.  :rolleyes:

It was posted on German language news sites these days because the parliament had voted on it. I didn't recall your thread.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Syt on October 23, 2009, 02:28:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 02:27:12 AMWhere do you take these news about Poland from, Syt? It's not the first time they have factual errors like this.

Deutsche Welle was the first English language source to pop up on this on Google News. In defence of the journalists I have to say if you deal with dozens of Polish names on a daily basis they start to look all alike.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 02:29:11 AM
Quote from: Ape on October 22, 2009, 02:18:40 PM
Starting to sound like Mooslem laws..... will the Poles starting to cut people hands when they steal as well?

Stupid.

Well, perhaps it is not clear from the article but this is for actual rape of a child, not for "statutory rape".

Either way, it is likely to be declared unconstitutional.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 02:31:57 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 23, 2009, 02:28:11 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 02:25:56 AMGood job, Syt.  :rolleyes:

It was posted on German language news sites these days because the parliament had voted on it. I didn't recall your thread.

It was in the Polanski's thread. :P
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Syt on October 23, 2009, 02:48:28 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 02:31:57 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 23, 2009, 02:28:11 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 02:25:56 AMGood job, Syt.  :rolleyes:

It was posted on German language news sites these days because the parliament had voted on it. I didn't recall your thread.

It was in the Polanski's thread. :P

I stopped following that one a couple weeks ago. :P
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
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Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Sahib on October 23, 2009, 05:58:55 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 02:27:12 AM
QuoteThe former Polish justice minister Włodzimierz Cimoszewicz, who was the only lawmaker to abstain from the vote, warned during the parliamentary debate that a therapy forced upon a patient may infringe human rights.

LOL that's some stellar reporting right there. The guy is not even in the Parliament. It was a former health minister who voted against it.

Where do you take these news about Poland from, Syt? It's not the first time they have factual errors like this.

:huh:
Cimoszewicz is the only Independent senator
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 08:39:51 AM
Quote from: Sahib on October 23, 2009, 05:58:55 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 02:27:12 AM
QuoteThe former Polish justice minister Włodzimierz Cimoszewicz, who was the only lawmaker to abstain from the vote, warned during the parliamentary debate that a therapy forced upon a patient may infringe human rights.

LOL that's some stellar reporting right there. The guy is not even in the Parliament. It was a former health minister who voted against it.

Where do you take these news about Poland from, Syt? It's not the first time they have factual errors like this.

:huh:
Cimoszewicz is the only Independent senator

Oh I misread. I thought they meant the Seym (where Balicki was the one voting against it).
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: Jaron on October 23, 2009, 08:44:36 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 08:39:51 AM
Quote from: Sahib on October 23, 2009, 05:58:55 AM
Quote from: Martinus on October 23, 2009, 02:27:12 AM
QuoteThe former Polish justice minister Włodzimierz Cimoszewicz, who was the only lawmaker to abstain from the vote, warned during the parliamentary debate that a therapy forced upon a patient may infringe human rights.

LOL that's some stellar reporting right there. The guy is not even in the Parliament. It was a former health minister who voted against it.

Where do you take these news about Poland from, Syt? It's not the first time they have factual errors like this.

:huh:
Cimoszewicz is the only Independent senator

Oh I misread. I thought they meant the Seym (where Balicki was the one voting against it).

I bet you feel stupid now.
Title: Re: Poland introduces chemical castration for sex offenders
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 23, 2009, 05:33:14 PM
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on October 23, 2009, 02:51:07 AM
Less bitching, more Catherine Bell!

Amen.