This is about four blocks from our house.
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2009/10/13/more_questions_few_answers_in_champaign_death (http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2009/10/13/more_questions_few_answers_in_champaign_death)
QuoteCHAMPAIGN – Members of the black community mourned one boy's death and called for another 15-year-old to be released from juvenile detention Monday.
Kiwane Carrington died Friday afternoon after being shot in a scuffle with police. Another youth, whose name has not been released, is still being detained and will have a juvenile court appearance today. Such appearances are not open to the public.
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Laura Manning, the mother of the boy still in custody, said at a Monday press conference that her son is a slight youth who has not reached his full height.
She said he was not a threat to a police officer who, along with Police Chief R.T. Finney, confronted him and Mr. Carrington at about 1:20 p.m. Friday after a neighbor called 911 to report a possible burglary at 906 W. Vine St., C.
The boys had been let out early from READY school and went to a house where Mr. Carrington had stayed last summer, and was a frequent visitor.
At a press conference Monday at the Urbana-Champaign Independent Media Center, Debra Thomas, who lives at the Vine Street house, said the teen was a good boy and was welcome at her home. A 911 caller had said the two boys were trying to get into the house through doors and windows, and officers responded.
When the boys did not do as ordered by the police, a scuffle ensued, and the unidentified officer's handgun went off, according to police. He was placed on paid administrative leave, Deputy Chief Troy Daniels said on Friday.
Police were not commenting on the accusation Monday.
"When the facts are in, the city plans to be fully open and transparent about what happened," Mayor Jerry Schweighart said Monday in a prepared statement. He said the investigation, led by the Illinois State Police, could take several weeks.
"This has been tough on our community, and our sympathy goes out to everyone involved," the mayor added.
Kenesha Williams, Mr. Carrington's sister and guardian, was at the press conference. Family members said he was a good kid who had been troubled in the last year, after his mother died of pancreatic cancer.
Thomas also praised the young man, and asked, "How was it burglary when he was welcome there?"
She said police, not burglars, had damaged her house, including breaking off the back door.
Family members also said they were not notified of the young man's death for several hours.
Community leaders called for more openness from the police about the investigation into the shooting.
"Everybody is edgy. There are more questions than there are answers," said Champaign County NAACP President Jerome Chambers. "How do we stop our black boys from dying where the authorities are the ones in question?"
Activist Terry Townsend said relations between Champaign police and the black community were at a breaking point.
"Our relations are no good after today," Townsend said.
He called for community members to address the Champaign City Council on Tuesday. But City Manager Steve Carter told The News-Gazette that the council's agenda is set and while the community is welcome to attend, there would be no room on the agenda for comments about the Friday incident.
The council is scheduled to have dinner at 5:15 p.m. and then the meeting, which will not be televised, is set to begin about 6 p.m. at the Illinois Terminal, 45 E. University Ave. Carter encouraged those with concerns about the shooting to come to the city council's meeting on Oct. 20.
On Monday afternoon, meanwhile, the city called an emergency meeting of the Champaign Community and Police Partnership. The group is an organization of city and black community leaders that meets monthly to seek ways to improve relations.
"Today's meeting is in response to a situation none of us want to see again," Carter said. "All of us are saddened."
"This impacts the entire Unit 4 family," said Champaign schools Superintendent Arthur Culver. "Staff members are hurt, and there is a lot of grieving going on."
Chambers, a member of the partnership, said the family members of the two boys are distraught.
"How long does the African-American community need to wait before it can trust law enforcement? It is time for us to give a damn about what happens to African-American youths and take our heads out of the sand. We can't continue to offer condolences and pass the buck. You can't tell me the police will get away scot-free on this."
Champaign activist Martel Miller said Mr. Carrington's death could have been avoided.
"I call this a public execution of a child," Miller said. "What is the solution? This boy will not be coming back."
Partnership member and former Champaign County Board chairwoman Patricia Avery said black mothers constantly fear for their children's welfare.
"No other mother in the world has to deal with what black women with black sons have to deal with," Avery said. "We don't rest when our boys are out."
Mr. Carrington's step-uncle, Seon Williams, said local ministers need to "step to the table" to address issues concerning young people in their congregations to prevent a repeat of Friday's incident.
"I want to see this doesn't happen to any more young people in the community," Williams said. "There are a lot more guys like Kiwane out there from broken homes and dysfunctional homes who need help. We need to get proper counseling for the young man who is incarcerated."
"There's a lot of anger, because there are not a lot of answers out there right now," Avery said. "This child's death should not go in vain."
There will be a candlelight vigil at 7:30 p.m. Wednesday at 906 W. Vine St., C.
Friends of the family will be setting up an account to accept donations toward funeral expenses.
Oh my GOD, are you okay? How is Juice or whatever your youngest is called?
And Kiwane? :huh:
Pronounced kee-WAN-ee.
Meh, we're all okay. I didn't even know it happened until well after it was all over. We heard the sirens, but it's not unusual to hear them near the school. Honestly, I'm more concerned with how this is going to affect the racial relations in the area. Our school is more than 55% African-American, some of whom are incredibly volatile on the best of days. Whitey is in for some rough times, me thinks.
Americaaaa fuck yeah :punk:
It is always weird when stuff like this happens near home.
So why the hell are you living in a black neighborhood anyway?
We live on the white side of the street. -_-
Quote from: merithyn on October 13, 2009, 06:56:45 PM
We live on the white side of the street. -_-
Hmm, interesting. Personally I live on the white side of the state. :goodboy:
I live on the white side of the national border, which is why shit like that doesn't happen here.
Quote from: Neil on October 13, 2009, 08:01:24 PM
I live on the white side of the national border, which is why shit like that doesn't happen here.
Watch Neil get tomahawked in a drive-by next week.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 13, 2009, 08:03:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 13, 2009, 08:01:24 PM
I live on the white side of the national border, which is why shit like that doesn't happen here.
Watch Neil get tomahawked in a drive-by next week.
No danger of that. I live in a large city, which means that the immigrants have mostly exterminated the Indians.
yeah it's scary out there. A guy got set on fire up the street here on the weekend - Initial reports assumed he was homeless (inferring some kind of mitigation or rationale to the sociopaths who did it) but it turns out it was just some guy who got too wasted and saw a sofa and tried to catch a nap. He actually only had minor burns... but still I bet he got sober pretty quick. It's one thing to wake up outside after getting blotto, another to wake up on fire.
It's not a shooting. It's an extra-projectilary lead experience.
Quote from: Caliga on October 13, 2009, 07:37:53 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 13, 2009, 06:56:45 PM
We live on the white side of the street. -_-
Hmm, interesting. Personally I live on the white side of the state. :goodboy:
Does Kentucky have more than one option?
A few months ago, some Girl Scouts were robbed about 4 blocks away from where I live. I'm fine, don't worry about it.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2009, 09:53:29 PM
A few months ago, some Girl Scouts were robbed about 4 blocks away from where I live. I'm fine, don't worry about it.
Glad to hear you're okay, those Girl Scouts can be pretty tough!
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 13, 2009, 09:59:11 PM
Glad to hear you're okay, those Girl Scouts can be pretty tough!
Bitches should have given up the cookies the first time I asked.
Edit: Haha a google search for "Girl Scouts robbed" brings up two different stories. The first was the one that happened here, but the second is one that happened in Florida. Two chicks "mugged" a Girl Scout, then came back to make fun of her
and give interviews. :lmfao:
Is this really that big a deal? Somebody got their idiot head blown off next door to my complex. And that's how the shitty under-eighteen (yeah) club across the street got closed down in favor of us decent folk. :)
Thank God I live in nice safe New York. :D
Quote from: Caliga on October 13, 2009, 07:37:53 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 13, 2009, 06:56:45 PM
We live on the white side of the street. -_-
Hmm, interesting. Personally I live on the white side of the state. :goodboy:
My township is 0.7% black :ph34r:
Quote from: derspiess on October 13, 2009, 11:07:56 PM
Quote from: Caliga on October 13, 2009, 07:37:53 PM
Quote from: merithyn on October 13, 2009, 06:56:45 PM
We live on the white side of the street. -_-
Hmm, interesting. Personally I live on the white side of the state. :goodboy:
My township is 0.7% black :ph34r:
Your work is almost done. :P
Quote from: Tyr on October 13, 2009, 06:53:43 PM
It is always weird when stuff like this happens near home.
Perhaps when you live in a hamlet.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 13, 2009, 09:59:11 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2009, 09:53:29 PM
A few months ago, some Girl Scouts were robbed about 4 blocks away from where I live. I'm fine, don't worry about it.
Glad to hear you're okay, those Girl Scouts can be pretty tough!
Spellus might have had some trouble though.
Nobody beats the clock like Mobtown dazzling urbanites!
QuoteAn unidentified man was fatally shot early Wednesday in West Baltimore, the third of three city shootings over a three-minute span, according to police.
The fatal shooting was reported at 12:41 a.m. at the corner of Ruxton Avenue and Baker Street. Police said the man did not have any identification. Further details about the incident were not immediately available.
One minute earlier, police were called to the 3900 block of Elmora Ave. in East Baltimore, where a 28-year-old man was found shot in the chest in a rear alley. The man was taken to an area hospital and was in critical condition, police said.
At 12:39 a.m., officers were called to the corner of Washington Boulevard and Cross Street in Southwest Baltimore after a man was shot in a bar. Police said the man was sitting inside the bar when someone opened fire, striking the victim in the face. Police have not identified the victim.
No arrests have been made in any of the shootings.
Quote from: Rasputin on October 13, 2009, 09:41:24 PM
Does Kentucky have more than one option?
Aside from the expected urban population, parts of western Kentucky have large populations of rural African-Americans. Even where I live there are a few. There's an old black couple that apparently eats breakfast at the gas station every Sunday... I don't go there often on Sunday morning but when I do they're always there.
Interesting observation: rural black folk always seem to have a 'traditional' family (husband and wife + kids if they're not elderly).
Quote from: Caliga on October 14, 2009, 07:29:24 AM
Aside from the expected urban population, parts of western Kentucky have large populations of rural African-Americans. Even where I live there are a few. There's an old black couple that apparently eats breakfast at the gas station every Sunday... I don't go there often on Sunday morning but when I do they're always there.
Interesting observation: rural black folk always seem to have a 'traditional' family (husband and wife + kids if they're not elderly).
A cigar buddy of mine falls into that category. He grew up somewhere southwest of Louisville in a rural area. Ended up playing football at Western Kentucky with former Browns coach Romeo Crennel. Hell of a guy.
Quote from: derspiess on October 14, 2009, 09:36:11 AM
A cigar buddy of mine falls into that category. He grew up somewhere southwest of Louisville in a rural area. Ended up playing football at Western Kentucky with former Browns coach Romeo Crennel. Hell of a guy.
:yes:
There's nothing wrong with the "race" (obviously)... it's the urban ghetto culture. -_-
Curiously there were 3 murders in my little town recently. Two were stalking type thing and the other is a guy who shot a robber in the face. The other robbers (who fled) are being charged with felony murder.
I'm sorry to break it to you Seedy, but when you break it down to crime rates per capita, the Yukon Territory has Baltimore beaten handily.
Violent crime rate for Baltimore, Maryland: 1,631 per 100,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
Violent crime rate for Yukon Territory, Canada: 3,007 per 100,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
There's 100,000 people in the Yukon? wow the more you know.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on October 14, 2009, 12:24:01 PM
There's 100,000 people in the Yukon? wow the more you know.
And 100,000 people in Baltimore...
ZOMG what a coincidence.
Do you have a shiny badge and a quick draw, BB?
Quote from: Razgovory on October 14, 2009, 12:14:24 PM
Curiously there were 3 murders in my little town recently. Two were stalking type thing and the other is a guy who shot a robber in the face. The other robbers (who fled) are being charged with felony murder.
Wait, they're being charged with murder because their accomplice got himself shot?
Simon should do "The Wire: Yukon" . The first season would focus on a feisty prosecutor who's trying to bring down a ring of Snowmobile thieves who steal your skidoo and pimp it out with lots of bling, try to sell it back to you, for as many bottles of AQ as you can carry.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 14, 2009, 12:31:02 PM
Do you have a shiny badge and a quick draw, BB?
No, but I am an imposing figure in court in my robes. :bowler:
I was out in one of the smaller communities last week for court. I was at the hotel, dressed in my suit, and loading my files into the back of the "Crownmobile" (aka our Grand Cherokee). Some guy takes one look at me and says 'boy you sure don't look like you belong around here'. :lol:
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 12:34:37 PM
No, but I am an imposing figure in court in my robes. :bowler:
So, what, are stilts a part of your getup when you put the robes on? :cool:
LOL does your robe have: pleats?
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 12:22:53 PM
I'm sorry to break it to you Seedy, but when you break it down to crime rates per capita, the Yukon Territory has Baltimore beaten handily.
Violent crime rate for Baltimore, Maryland: 1,631 per 100,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
Violent crime rate for Yukon Territory, Canada: 3,007 per 100,000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
Well, duh, Canada's most dastardly criminal lives in the Yukon:
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Laugh all you want, but Detroit's violent crime rate is 'only' 2,289 per 100,000.
That's right - Yukon is more violent than the most violent city in America. :yeah:
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 01:12:20 PM
Laugh all you want, but Detroit's violent crime rate is 'only' 2,289 per 100,000.
That's right - Yukon is more violent than the most violent city in America. :yeah:
We try so hard. :(
Why is the Yukon so violent?
Quote from: Savonarola on October 14, 2009, 01:20:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 01:12:20 PM
Laugh all you want, but Detroit's violent crime rate is 'only' 2,289 per 100,000.
That's right - Yukon is more violent than the most violent city in America. :yeah:
We try so hard. :(
Why is the Yukon so violent?
Don't feel bad. :console:
With so many guns your lower rate of violence probably leads to much more serious injuries and death then we have.
Indians + Booze.
Is there that many ricans in the Yukon? :huh:
Quote from: lustindarkness on October 14, 2009, 01:31:56 PM
Is there that many ricans in the Yukon? :huh:
I should point out that the only two places that beat the Yukon are the Northwest Territories and Nunavut. :(
Indians + booze + meth - sunlight?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 14, 2009, 01:38:06 PM
Indians + booze + meth - sunlight?
Indians + booze + meth - sunlight + Vampires!
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 14, 2009, 01:38:06 PM
Indians + booze + meth - sunlight?
Don't forget + 1 prosecuting super-hero. ;)
Quote from: Malthus on October 14, 2009, 01:47:35 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 14, 2009, 01:38:06 PM
Indians + booze + meth - sunlight?
Don't forget + 1 prosecuting super-hero. ;)
Good point, do those stats include all crimes, or any crimes that the AADA decides his gut tells him he should prosecute?
Weirdly, there's no meth up here. Meth has actually been a minor victory in the "war on drugs". When it came back with a vengeance, oh, 5 years ago, there was such a strong public response, and we were so effective at getting the message out, that it's spread really was stopped in its tracks. Places where meth was a problem it continues to be a problem, but it didn't spread to new areas.
Plus, the negative effects of meth are so obvious that even the druggies realized the stuff was no good.
So instead they stick with crack cocaine.
So why is Yukon so violent? Or rather why is the north so violent (since I believe that Greenland and Alaska have the same issues)?
It's not enough to say "natives", as there's nothing genetic about first nations people that makes them more violent. But our jails are overwhelmingly full of people of first nations background, well above their proportion of the population.
I think it's a lot of the same factors that other disadvantaged groups are going through, like balcks and 'ricans in the US. Poverty, substance abuse, and collapse of the family unit and collapse of wider societal supports. I think with first nations groups though the issues just run much, much deeper. The unemployment rate for first nations people is huge - most people do not work. We have generational substance abuse: gandpa drinks, mom drinks, little johnny drinks. The family unit has largely disintegrated (and I could do a dissertation on the effect residential schools had on this). And particularily in remote communities there is no other support. There is no churches, no government employees, no nothing.
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2009, 01:51:14 PM
Quote from: Malthus on October 14, 2009, 01:47:35 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 14, 2009, 01:38:06 PM
Indians + booze + meth - sunlight?
Don't forget + 1 prosecuting super-hero. ;)
Good point, do those stats include all crimes, or any crimes that the AADA decides his gut tells him he should prosecute?
When I google AADA I get:
American Academy of Dramatic Arts
Advances in Adaptive Data Analysis
American Auto Duel Association (Car Wars :cool:)
African Automotive Design Association
Australian Academy of Dramatic Arts
and that's just from page 1.
:huh:
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2009, 01:51:14 PM
Quote from: Malthus on October 14, 2009, 01:47:35 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 14, 2009, 01:38:06 PM
Indians + booze + meth - sunlight?
Don't forget + 1 prosecuting super-hero. ;)
Good point, do those stats include all crimes, or any crimes that the AADA decides his gut tells him he should prosecute?
Hush you. I'm *trying* to give a *complement*.
This may be the first time in Languish history anyone has ever done so to another Languishista, so I don't want it turned. :lol:
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American Academy of Dermatology Association
Australian Antique Dealers Association
Abbreviated Antibiotic Drug Application
Association for Adult Development and Aging
Australian Automobile Dealers Association
Asians Against Domestic Abuse
Adjusted Attributable Deposit Amount
Affordable Acquisition Decision Aid
Advocates Against Domestic Abuse
Quote from: Malthus on October 14, 2009, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2009, 01:51:14 PM
Quote from: Malthus on October 14, 2009, 01:47:35 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 14, 2009, 01:38:06 PM
Indians + booze + meth - sunlight?
Don't forget + 1 prosecuting super-hero. ;)
Good point, do those stats include all crimes, or any crimes that the AADA decides his gut tells him he should prosecute?
Hush you. I'm *trying* to give a *complement*.
This may be the first time in Languish history anyone has ever done so to another Languishista, so I don't want it turned. :lol:
Hah! I knew it was just a thin cover to attack our poor Associate Assistant District Attorney, so I just figured I take the shot first, because I have respect for him, unlike some around here.
Quote from: Malthus on October 14, 2009, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2009, 01:51:14 PM
Quote from: Malthus on October 14, 2009, 01:47:35 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 14, 2009, 01:38:06 PM
Indians + booze + meth - sunlight?
Don't forget + 1 prosecuting super-hero. ;)
Good point, do those stats include all crimes, or any crimes that the AADA decides his gut tells him he should prosecute?
Hush you. I'm *trying* to give a *complement*.
This may be the first time in Languish history anyone has ever done so to another Languishista, so I don't want it turned. :lol:
Thank you. :blush:
Berk, those stats are reported crimes, not convictions.
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 02:09:35 PM
Our courtesy of http://www.abbreviations.com/AADA#
American Academy of Dermatology Association
Australian Antique Dealers Association
Abbreviated Antibiotic Drug Application
Association for Adult Development and Aging
Australian Automobile Dealers Association
Asians Against Domestic Abuse
Adjusted Attributable Deposit Amount
Affordable Acquisition Decision Aid
Advocates Against Domestic Abuse
Mixing & matching from that list, I would like to see an Asians Against Automobile Abuse (AAAA).
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2009, 02:10:17 PM
Hah! I knew it was just a thin cover to attack our poor Associate Assistant District Attorney, so I just figured I take the shot first, because I have respect for him, unlike some around here.
Two *compliments* in one thread? :blush:
Oh Languish, what has happened to you? :o
You suck as a person!
There Balance is restored.
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 01:57:14 PM
I think it's a lot of the same factors that other disadvantaged groups are going through, like balcks and 'ricans in the US.
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Don't drag him into this.
I thought the title said 'Shooting a few blacks from our house."
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 02:12:02 PM
Two *compliments* in one thread? :blush:
Oh Languish, what has happened to you? :o
Maybe the sock was right. :(
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 14, 2009, 12:32:42 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 14, 2009, 12:14:24 PM
Curiously there were 3 murders in my little town recently. Two were stalking type thing and the other is a guy who shot a robber in the face. The other robbers (who fled) are being charged with felony murder.
Wait, they're being charged with murder because their accomplice got himself shot?
Seen that before. Called the "Felony murder rule" I believe(in states that have it); if a homocide occurs as a result of the commission of a felony, no matter who killed who, those committing the original felony can be charged with murder.
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 02:12:02 PM
Two *compliments* in one thread? :blush:
Oh Languish, what has happened to you? :o
Drop the Steve Jobs crush & I'll also respect you :P
Quote from: derspiess on October 14, 2009, 03:26:07 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 02:12:02 PM
Two *compliments* in one thread? :blush:
Oh Languish, what has happened to you? :o
Drop the Steve Jobs crush & I'll also respect you :P
Never!
Quote from: Malthus on October 14, 2009, 02:09:07 PM
Hush you. I'm *trying* to give a *complement*.
This may be the first time in Languish history anyone has ever done so to another Languishista, so I don't want it turned. :lol:
I can't think of witty to say, but I doubt you wanted to give a complement. :Embarrass:
QuoteIt's not enough to say "natives", as there's nothing genetic about first nations people that makes them more violent.
Okay, not very politically correct, perhaps, but... are they not more prone to alcoholism, for example? Beer, due to it's anti-bacterial properties, was the drink of choice throughout much of European history since it did not get infected with water-borne diseases the same way as water did. So they drank a lot. Some economic historians estimate that a third of medieval grain crop went to the production of beer, for example. Not handling alcohol properly can be devastating even in modern society with social security nets, and in pre-industrial societies we can easily imagine you would pass on less offspring. So in societies that have been drinking beer for thousands of years there would have developed some tolerance. A tolerance that native americans, inuits, greenlanders, australian aborigines and other people with no alcoholic tradition of their own would lack.
Cool another shooting yesterday in my town. Another robbery where the victim shot back. Nobody was killed but the robber was shot in the hand.
Quote from: Razgovory on October 15, 2009, 02:56:42 AM
Cool another shooting yesterday in my town. Another robbery where the victim shot back. Nobody was killed but the robber was shot in the hand.
What town do you live in? I want to make sure never to try to rob anybody there.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 15, 2009, 02:59:42 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 15, 2009, 02:56:42 AM
Cool another shooting yesterday in my town. Another robbery where the victim shot back. Nobody was killed but the robber was shot in the hand.
What town do you live in? I want to make sure never to try to rob anybody there.
Jefferson City, Missouri. Maybe there is something to this conceal and carry...
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 02:09:35 PM
Our courtesy of http://www.abbreviations.com/AADA#
American Academy of Dermatology Association
Australian Antique Dealers Association
Abbreviated Antibiotic Drug Application
Association for Adult Development and Aging
Australian Automobile Dealers Association
Asians Against Domestic Abuse
Adjusted Attributable Deposit Amount
Affordable Acquisition Decision Aid
Advocates Against Domestic Abuse
BB, you strikes me as an Australian Antique Dealers Association kind of guy.
In Beeb's case, AADA = Association of Advocacy Dicks for Apple.
Not to derail your thorough derailment, but... <_<
QuoteCHAMPAIGN -- Several hundred people sang, wept and prayed outside a north Champaign home on a drizzly Wednesday night at a candlelight vigil for Kiwane Carrington, the 15-year-old boy who died of a gunshot wound last week.
"Let's not let Kiwane's death be in vain," said the Rev. Charles Nash. "When one hurts, we all hurt. Let Champaign-Urbana know we are coming together, we're going to make a difference and justice will be done."
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Mr. Carrington's father, Albert Carrington, thanked the people for taking part.
"Kiwane, you know I told you I love you, and I still love you," he said. "I know you are in a better place." Here's where I point out that after the boy's mother died last year, Daddy couldn't be arsed to take care of his son, so the boy moved in with his 22-year-old sister who was trying to raise him.
After the vigil, ceremonies continued at a Champaign church.
Mr. Carrington died from a gunshot wound to the chest, according to the Champaign County coroner, as the result of a burglary call to police at 906 W. Vine St., C, on Friday afternoon. Mr. Carrington was killed and another teen arrested in a scuffle with police, including Chief R.T. Finney, who responded to the burglary call.
Mr. Carrington's computer teacher, Keisha Burke, remembered Mr. Carrington as a teen who aspired to become an astronaut.
"He always made sure he brightened the other students' day at the school," Burke said. "He was a very dedicated student and a good kid." Not to speak ill of the dead, but this "dedicated student and good kid" was expelled from high school and was attending an alternative school at the time of his death.
One of Mr. Carrington's classmates, April Collier, said it was important for her to take part in the vigil.
"I wanted to show support for Kiwane and his family," Collier said.
One of Mr. Carrington's friends, Trey Fonville, said he would miss "chilling out with him."
"It's hard to believe he is gone," Fonville said. "This is crazy."
Several participants created a shrine under a tree outside the house. There they placed photos, notes and more than a dozen teddy bears.
On Friday, a neighbor reporting a burglary in progress at 906 W. Vine St., C., at 1:20 p.m.
Finney and Officer Daniel Norbits responded to the call and found two boys there. Police said the officers identified themselves as police and both boys disobeyed the officers' commands to get on the ground.
A city news release said Finney and Norbits "confronted two subjects at the house, and during a physical confrontation, an officer-involved shooting occurred."
Police earlier this week identified Norbits as the officer involved in the shooting.
Mr. Carrington was taken to Carle Foundation Hospital, Urbana, where he was pronounced dead at 2:15 p.m. Friday.
A second 15-year-old boy at the scene was accused of injuring Finney in a struggle. He was charged on Tuesday with a juvenile Class 4 felony charge of aggravated resisting a peace officer and was released to the custody of his mother. The struggle was such that the 15-year-old boy dislocated the shoulder of the police officer. Oh, and the officer was the Police Chief, by the by.
Norbits, a 14-year veteran of the Champaign Police Department, has been placed on paid administrative leave pending an investigation by a team of officers led by the state police and an internal investigation by the Champaign department.
This week, the occupant of the Vine Street home said Mr. Carrington was welcome at the home and had previously lived there.
Meri is so cynical nowadays. :(
Meri hates black kids.
She needs to adopt a few.
Red? We're not school kids.
This thread should be renamed:
Shooting a few blacks near my house! :w00t:
I simply wanted to be sure you had all of the facts. :)
Someone took out a 1/4 page ad in today's newspaper calling for the dismissal of the Police Chief. It said that the public had lost all faith in the police force under his leadership.
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2009/10/16/friends_remember_15-year-old_slain_in_scuffle (http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2009/10/16/friends_remember_15-year-old_slain_in_scuffle)
The comments below the article are the real story. And apparently, the "mourners" were so distraught they destroyed a bus and other public property.
Quote from: merithyn on October 17, 2009, 06:42:15 AM
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2009/10/16/friends_remember_15-year-old_slain_in_scuffle (http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2009/10/16/friends_remember_15-year-old_slain_in_scuffle)
The comments below the article are the real story. And apparently, the "mourners" were so distraught they destroyed a bus and other public property.
Looks like they've already disabled comments for the story...
State's Attorney's report on the shooting (http://www.dailyillini.com/news/champaign-urbana/2009/12/08/state-s-attorney-s-report-on-carrington-shooting)
Looks like the kid resisted arrest, the gun went off, and the kid was shot. Who's surprised?
Quote from: merithyn on December 08, 2009, 11:45:52 PM
State's Attorney's report on the shooting (http://www.dailyillini.com/news/champaign-urbana/2009/12/08/state-s-attorney-s-report-on-carrington-shooting)
Looks like the kid resisted arrest, the gun went off, and the kid was shot. Who's surprised?
I am - why wasn't he shot
before resisting arrest? Could've been the officer that was shot instead.
Raciss!! :ultra:
Seriously, though, the "community" is calling for the removal of the State's Attorney from the case, saying it's impossible for her to be objective since she's laid charges against the other kid. They're also calling for a rewrite in how the police handle resisting arrest (deadly force is allowed at the moment) and banning Tasers... which Champaign police do not and have never used. In fact, if they HAD used Tasers, Carrington would still be alive, probably.
What it seems to come down to is the mistaken belief that there were three suspects at the house, not just two. So, while the cops are wrestling with the two they see, they're constantly keeping their eyes out for the third. Given that we had two cops shot by a crazy guy two years ago, they don't mess around when they think there's a hint that someone else may be in the area.
These kids were stupid, but rather than use it was a teaching experience for other youths, the parents of said youths are turning this around and saying, "See! You can't trust those policemen! They just want to kill our kids!"
We really need to police black neighborhoods exclusively with black officers.... but I guess that would never happen due to it being RACIDISTIC. :(
What's really fucked up is that originally, the "community" thought the officer involved in the shooting was one of the SROs, a large, black man. They were pissed at him, issuing death threats, etc. Then, when word came back that it wasn't him, they said that he should have been called because he was "one of them" and would have understood better.