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Cleveland at Buffalo 1:00 PM
Dallas at Kansas City 1:00 PM
Minnesota at St. Louis 1:00 PM
Oakland at NY Giants 1:00 PM
Tampa Bay at Philadelphia 1:00 PM FOX
Pittsburgh at Detroit 1:00 PM
Washington at Carolina 1:00 PM
Cincinnati at Baltimore 1:00 PM
Atlanta at San Francisco 4:05 PM
Jacksonville at Seattle 4:15 PM
Houston at Arizona 4:15 PM CBS
New England at Denver 4:15 PM
Indianapolis at Tennessee 8:20 PM
MON, OCT 12
NY Jets at Miami 8:30 PM m
·Bye: Chicago, Green Bay, New Orleans, San Diego
QuoteMike Pereira, the vice president of NFL officiating, tonight supported the roughing-the-passer penalties against Haloti Ngata and Terrell Suggs of the Ravens during an officiating segment on NFL Network.
Pereira called the suggestion that officials are acting overtly to protect Brady because of his profile in the league "ludicrous ... That's not the way we officiate."
Oh, and I suppose somebody can take Timmay off Moderated status now.
Pereira says one thing, but his boss not fining Ray Lewis says something else.
Time Favorite Spread Underdog
1:00 ET Minnesota -10 At St. Louis
1:00 ET Dallas -8 At Kansas City
1:00 ET At Carolina -3.5 Washington
1:00 ET At Philly -15 Tampa Bay
1:00 ET At NY Giants -14.5 Oakland
1:00 ET At Buffalo -6 Cleveland
1:00 ET At Baltimore -8.5 Cincinnati
1:00 ET Pittsburgh -10.5 At Detroit
4:05 ET At San Fran -2.5 Atlanta
4:15 ET New England -3 At Denver
4:15 ET At Arizona -5.5 Houston
4:15 ET At Seattle PK Jacksonville
8:20 ET Indianapolis -3.5 At Tennessee
Monday Night Football Point Spread
8:35 ET NY Jets -1.5 At Miami
I'm picking St. Louis, the Gints, Shitsburgh, and the Petyoni Manning Show this week.
Patriots should beat the Broncos, but Denver has been surprisingly good, so I think it will be close.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 09, 2009, 01:48:33 AM
it will be close.
Unlike your timezone to the games. :P Welcome to my world! :menace:
Week 1: 10-6
Week 2: 11-5 (8-8 vs. the spread)
Week 3: 7-9 (6-10)
Week 4: 12-2 (10-4)
Sunday:
Bengals (-8.5) @ Ravens - The Bengals showed themselves to be the equals of the Browns last week. The Ravens have been beating the spread every week, and would have last week if not for some creative officiating. The Ravens, at home, should make short work of the Bengals.
Browns (-6) @ Bills - This one is tough, as neither team is very good. The Browns defence has been savaged by injuries, and their offence is unreliable, but Derek Anderson is usually good against bad teams, and there might be some addition by subtraction with the elimination of Butterfingers Edwards. The Bills running game should allow them to stomp Cleveland, and the Browns' secondary might be exploitable enough for TO to finally have a big game. Still, I have a sneaking suspiscion that the Browns will cover.
Redskins (-3.5) @ Panthers - The Redskins are not credible as a real football team. The Panthers are slightly moreso. I think that the Panthers will beat the spread here, because the Redskins won't move the ball. They are terrible.
Steelers @ Lions (-10.5) - The Steelers will tear the Lions to shreds without difficulty. As much as I would like the Steelers to be humiliated, I have too much respect for their ability to play football to think that they'll let the Lions have a chance. Daunte Culpepper is such a big target, the Steelers' linebackers can't possibly miss him.
Cowboys @ Chiefs (-8) - The Chiefs are terrible. The Cowboys aren't very good, but they're at least a mediocre NFL football team. The Chiefs are traditionally tough at home, but that was back when they had a strong, fundamental line. These Chiefs are miles away from those 90s-00s Chiefs teams of old. The Chiefs will not cover.
Raiders (-14.5) @ Giants - How does this game not have the highest line of the week? The Giants could start Carr and they'd still crush the shit out of the Raiders. Oakland can't score, and their defence has a better chance of stopping neutrinos than they do the Giants run attack. Oakland won't cover.
Buccaneers (-15) @ Eagles - The Buccs are useless. The Eagles are moderately mighty, and if they don't win, the subhuman scum that are the Eagles fans in the stands will tear them apart. This should be a cakewalk and the Eagles should cover.
Vikings @ Rams (-10) - Yet another squash match. The Vikings will cover. With the ruin that is the Rams' line, I fear for Future Hall of Famer Kyle Boller's life, as that hillbilly Jared Allen might kill him.
Falcons (-2.5) @ 49ers - I think the Falcons have more offensive omph, but Singletary's got his defence playing at a very high level, stuffing the run, pressuring the QB. Although I think that a lot of people are overlooking the Falcons right now, the 49ers are a better team right now. They can shut down the run and make the Falcons one-dimensional. They should be able to cover the spread.
Texans (-5.5) @ Cardinals - I go with the Falcons on this one because they're at home, but I think that the Texans will cover. The teams are pretty similar. I think that Arizona has better weapons, but Houston's defence is a bit better. Because of that, I think that Arizona will win at home, but Houston will cover.
Patriots @ Broncos (-3) - Come on, even at Mile High, there's no chance that the refs will let the Patriots lose. The Broncos won't cover.
Jaguars @ Seahawks - Will Hasselbeck be back at 100% for this one? I doubt it, and without him the Seahawks are worthless. Pocket Hercules should shred them.
Colts @ Titans (-3.5) - Manning is a machine, and the Titans have gone retarded. Cortland Finnegan isn't going to cover anyone, because he's a punk bitch. The Titans' run game might be a problem, but they won't be able to keep up with the Colts. The Titans won't cover.
Monday:
Jets @ Dolphins (-1.5) - Without Pennington, all the Dolphins have is the run. Rex Ryan knows how to defeat the run. Expect a big game from Jim Leonhard. I don't think the Dolphins have a prayer of covering such a small spread.
Ravens may beat the spread, but not by much. This may be the most physical Bungles defense they've ever faced. Plus Chad Johnson told me he's gonna catch 3 TDs.
Quote from: Neil on October 08, 2009, 06:03:01 AM
Pereira says one thing, but his boss not fining Ray Lewis says something else.
I agree, I was shocked when I heard he wasn't fined. The fact that Lewis wasn't fined becoming public was as close to an admission of guilt as you will ever see from the NFL.
Quote from: derspiess on October 09, 2009, 10:17:39 PM
Ravens may beat the spread, but not by much. This may be the most physical Bungles defense they've ever faced. Plus Chad Johnson told me he's gonna catch 3 TDs.
Yeah, I think it's going to be one big air raid.
Quote from: sbr on October 10, 2009, 03:00:11 AM
I agree, I was shocked when I heard he wasn't fined. The fact that Lewis wasn't fined becoming public was as close to an admission of guilt as you will ever see from the NFL.
Well, now you know, don't you?
I guess Rob's jealous of all of Rex's coverage.
QuoteBrowns D-coordinator challenges FG
Associated Press
BEREA, Ohio -- He tackled last week's officials. Then, he roughed up Buffalo Bills quarterback Trent Edwards.
Cleveland Browns defensive coordinator Rob Ryan handed out his own punishment on Friday.
During his weekly news conference, Ryan said Cincinnati Bengals kicker Shayne Graham missed his winning 31-yard field goal in overtime to beat Cleveland last week. Later, Ryan sent out a challenge to Edwards, whom the winless Browns will face on the road Sunday.
Without being prompted, Ryan, the twin brother of New York Jets coach Rex Ryan, referred to Graham's kick with 4 seconds left that gave the Bengals a 23-20 win.
"You can watch the tape," Ryan said. "I'm not saying anything, but man, maybe the posts were crooked. Look at it."
A TV replay from an end zone camera shows Graham's kick crossing the line of scrimmage and heading toward the right upright. Ryan believes it sailed outside of the post. Browns cornerbacks Brandon McDonald and Eric Wright both waved that they thought the kick was off the mark, too.
"I don't want to get fined," Ryan said. "I pay enough money already on the house I don't even live in in California. I don't want to make this a big story, but I was disappointed. I thought it missed. Of course, I'm not an expert. That's why I'm saying maybe somebody else should look at it."
NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league feels the correct ruling was made.
"The field judge standing right underneath the upright called it good and we have reviewed video from multiple angles and seen nothing to dispute the call," Aiello said in an e-mail response.
Ryan was initially asked a question about how the trade of wide receiver Braylon Edwards would affect the Browns when he turned the discussion to the field goal.
"I thought you were talking about the missed field goal," Ryan said. "Did I say that out loud?"
Later, Ryan alluded to Edwards making some negative comments about his defense when the assistant coach was with the Oakland Raiders.
Ryan was talking about Buffalo's offense when he steered the discussion to Edwards.
"I don't think that's [Bengals quarterback] Carson Palmer back there by any stretch," he said.
Ryan was then asked if he felt Edwards was not as good as Palmer.
"Absolutely. He's not. Not too many quarterbacks are," he said. "The guy can run and do some things, but we've played Brett Favre, we've played Carson Palmer. Those are two pretty good quarterbacks right there. This guy [Edwards] always seems to have a lot to say, so I'm going to say the same thing.
"Let's go. Let's get it on. We'll see what he's all about this week."
Are there any white defensive ends in the pros besides Jared Allen?
When ever I see a white dude playing all geeked up like that I suspect he's juicing. What are the odds? How ironclad is the league's testing program?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2009, 09:07:11 AM
Are there any white defensive ends in the pros besides Jared Allen?
You know, I can't think of any. And in college, it seems D-Lines are all black with the occasional islander.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2009, 09:07:11 AM
Are there any white defensive ends in the pros besides Jared Allen?
Paul Kruger, DE, Baltimore Ravens. Played for Utah last year.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2009, 09:59:52 AM
Played for Utah last year.
Can't get any whiter than that.
Does he juice?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2009, 10:02:20 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2009, 09:59:52 AM
Played for Utah last year.
Can't get any whiter than that.
Does he juice?
Nah, I don't suspect so, mainly because he's a bit lighter than your average DE coming out of NCAA, but he hasn't gotten a full year in. Fast as shit, though. They may convert him to LB if he can't put on the muscle with a full NFL offseason--during which, well, he may juice.
Random question:
I saw a promo on ESPN for a documentary about the Baltimore Colts leaving town and it referenced a marching band. I did a little research and found out that the band has returned for the Ravens, which leaves the NFL with 2 teams with bands, Baltimore and Washington. For those teams, does the band just march/play during half time, or do they actually play songs during the game like a college band would? I've never noticed a band in the stands during a Baltimore or Washington game, but it's been a while since I've seen a home game for either of those teams on TV.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2009, 09:07:11 AM
Are there any white defensive ends in the pros besides Jared Allen?
When ever I see a white dude playing all geeked up like that I suspect he's juicing. What are the odds? How ironclad is the league's testing program?
The Texans just drafted one out of Cincy named Connor Barwin. There's also that guy Jason Babin that Charlie Casserly traded away a bunch of picks for. I think he plays for the Eagles now.
Jason Babin sucks too much to be all roided up, and Barwin actually just seems like a normal dude. Not all crazy like Jared Allen.
Quote from: stjaba on October 10, 2009, 07:09:21 PM
Random question:
I saw a promo on ESPN for a documentary about the Baltimore Colts leaving town and it referenced a marching band. I did a little research and found out that the band has returned for the Ravens, which leaves the NFL with 2 teams with bands, Baltimore and Washington. For those teams, does the band just march/play during half time, or do they actually play songs during the game like a college band would? I've never noticed a band in the stands during a Baltimore or Washington game, but it's been a while since I've seen a home game for either of those teams on TV.
The Redskins band plays Hail to the Redskins after every TD.
Quote from: stjaba on October 10, 2009, 07:09:21 PM
Random question:
I saw a promo on ESPN for a documentary about the Baltimore Colts leaving town and it referenced a marching band. I did a little research and found out that the band has returned for the Ravens, which leaves the NFL with 2 teams with bands, Baltimore and Washington. For those teams, does the band just march/play during half time, or do they actually play songs during the game like a college band would? I've never noticed a band in the stands during a Baltimore or Washington game, but it's been a while since I've seen a home game for either of those teams on TV.
The Baltimore Colts Marching Band became the Ravens Marching Band in 1998. They'll play some ditties, most mostly the fight song or refrains of it.
The Ravens band sits in the endzone seats on the east side of the stadium. You'll see them in endzone shots and wide shots, they have their own bleachers.
I tried out for them back in high school--wasn't difficult, since they took anybody with marching band experience--but my school schedule wouldn't allow me to participate. Yes, for those of you who still don't know: I was a band geek.
Even all those years without football, we always had the Baltimore Colts Marching Band. God Bless John Ziemann.
Barry Levinson's new movie about the band is the one coming on ESPN this week.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2009, 07:41:04 PM
The Redskins band plays Hail to the Redskins after every TD.
Only football fight song more annoying than "Rocky Top".
I'm pleasently surprised that big business NFL teams would comp enough tickets to provide a band. Or do band members pay their own way or get some sort of discount?
You know, I really like the Chargers' disco fight song.
Quote from: Neil on October 10, 2009, 07:57:32 PM
You know, I really like the Chargers' disco fight song.
Norv's playbooks date from that era.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 10, 2009, 07:58:13 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 10, 2009, 07:57:32 PM
You know, I really like the Chargers' disco fight song.
Norv's playbooks date from that era.
Don't be silly. The problem isn't the plays, it's the fact that the guy calling them is a total pussy.
Besides, Norv's plays are early 90s vintage.
Hey there's a UFL game on right now (the Florida Tuskers vs. the New York Sentinels heh). I just got to see Brooks Bollinger overthrow a WR, Michael Pittman get stuffed on a run up the middle, and a walk on safety collapse with a cramp. Good times.
Why in the world are they having these guys play on Saturday night? Why not like....Wednesday or something?
I didn't even know the UFL started yet. :blush:
Apparently this is the second game. Huh. Here's the schedule:
http://www.ufl-football.com/schedule
Oh...Quinn Gray is the QB for New York.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2009, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: stjaba on October 10, 2009, 07:09:21 PM
Random question:
I saw a promo on ESPN for a documentary about the Baltimore Colts leaving town and it referenced a marching band. I did a little research and found out that the band has returned for the Ravens, which leaves the NFL with 2 teams with bands, Baltimore and Washington. For those teams, does the band just march/play during half time, or do they actually play songs during the game like a college band would? I've never noticed a band in the stands during a Baltimore or Washington game, but it's been a while since I've seen a home game for either of those teams on TV.
The Redskins band plays Hail to the Redskins after every TD.
So they really haven't had to do much this season.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2009, 07:50:12 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2009, 07:41:04 PM
The Redskins band plays Hail to the Redskins after every TD.
Only football fight song more annoying than "Rocky Top".
:nelson
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2009, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: stjaba on October 10, 2009, 07:09:21 PM
Random question:
I saw a promo on ESPN for a documentary about the Baltimore Colts leaving town and it referenced a marching band. I did a little research and found out that the band has returned for the Ravens, which leaves the NFL with 2 teams with bands, Baltimore and Washington. For those teams, does the band just march/play during half time, or do they actually play songs during the game like a college band would? I've never noticed a band in the stands during a Baltimore or Washington game, but it's been a while since I've seen a home game for either of those teams on TV.
The Baltimore Colts Marching Band became the Ravens Marching Band in 1998. They'll play some ditties, most mostly the fight song or refrains of it.
The Ravens band sits in the endzone seats on the east side of the stadium. You'll see them in endzone shots and wide shots, they have their own bleachers.
I tried out for them back in high school--wasn't difficult, since they took anybody with marching band experience--but my school schedule wouldn't allow me to participate. Yes, for those of you who still don't know: I was a band geek.
Even all those years without football, we always had the Baltimore Colts Marching Band. God Bless John Ziemann.
Barry Levinson's new movie about the band is the one coming on ESPN this week.
I remember walking past the band on the way to the stadium before the Ravens-Bungles game in 1999 or 2000. They had some weird mix of Colts & Ravens logos or colors-- like they couldn't let the Baltimore Colt thing go.
Quote from: Neil on October 10, 2009, 07:57:32 PM
You know, I really like the Chargers' disco fight song.
Nothing comes near the awesomeness of The Bengal Growl: http://www.entertonement.com/clips/mjzwylsdsg--Bengal-GrowlFootball-College-Marching-Bands-Cincinnati-Bengals%27-Fans-Cincinnati-Bengals-
I don't remember the Bengals marching band, but I remember in the very early 80s they had these old dudes who came around to different sections & would play short pep songs. Seemed a bit dorky at the time but now I wish they had it these days, for tradition's sake.
Quote from: stjaba on October 10, 2009, 07:09:21 PM
Random question:
I saw a promo on ESPN for a documentary about the Baltimore Colts leaving town and it referenced a marching band. I did a little research and found out that the band has returned for the Ravens, which leaves the NFL with 2 teams with bands, Baltimore and Washington. For those teams, does the band just march/play during half time, or do they actually play songs during the game like a college band would? I've never noticed a band in the stands during a Baltimore or Washington game, but it's been a while since I've seen a home game for either of those teams on TV.
I miss those old fighting songs...
Cause we're the Houston Oilers, Houston Oilers, Houston Oilers number one! :whistle:
Quote from: Vince on October 10, 2009, 10:52:36 PM
Cause we're the Houston Oilers, Houston Oilers, Houston Oilers number one! :whistle:
Caught that on NFL Films a while back & it's been stuck in my head since.
Brilliant stiffarm by Caldwell on the opening kickoff return.
...and then on the first play from scrimmage, Laverneous Coles lets a pass bounce off his facemask. Bench that worthless piece of crap now!
I think the announcers in the Ravens-Bengals game are retarded.
Quote from: Neil on October 11, 2009, 12:16:34 PM
I think the announcers in the Ravens-Bengals game are retarded.
Yeah-- the one dude can't get through a sentence without stuttering. He got confused by having to say "Ochocinco" so he called Carson Palmer "Carso" :lol:
The World's Worst Longsnapper strikes again. What a waste of a good drive :bleeding:
That replay of the INT from up high in the Bungles-Ravens game was from my brother's camera :)
Now that's how you return an INT.
Quote from: Neil on October 11, 2009, 12:50:10 PM
Now that's how you return an INT.
The return wasn't what was impressive-- anyone could have run that back. It was the way he read Palmer all the way & was already running full speed when he caught it.
Game's over. Bungles got a new lease on life at the end of the 1st quarter, but they needed to play mistake-free for the rest of the game. Palmer will be able to shake this one off, but being in just an 0-7 hole at Baltimore at this point is not going to be easy to overcome.
The Baltimore Colts marching band rocked.
Wow-- a successful FG attempt in spite of another shitty snap by Brad St. Louis.
The Giants are just toying with the Raiders. I wish I hadn't sat Eli in my money league :pinch:
The Browns/Bills game is pathetic.
Don't be so sure. Flacco's INT might have taken Cameron's balls.
Quote from: derspiess on October 11, 2009, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 11, 2009, 12:50:10 PM
Now that's how you return an INT.
The return wasn't what was impressive-- anyone could have run that back. It was the way he read Palmer all the way & was already running full speed when he caught it.
Game's over. Bungles got a new lease on life at the end of the 1st quarter, but they needed to play mistake-free for the rest of the game. Palmer will be able to shake this one off, but being in just an 0-7 hole at Baltimore at this point is not going to be easy to overcome.
It is my shtick to give up on the bungles after a quarter. :mad:
That non-reversal of the non-called fumble is clear evidence that there is an NFL conspiracy against the Bungles and the city of Cincinnati :angry:
:bleeding: I liked Chad Johnson better when he just fell down after catching the ball.
Well, well, well.
This isn't the Bengals team I'm used to.
Okay, the game just got interesting.
Brad St. Louis will directly impact the unemployment rate on Tuesday.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 11, 2009, 02:14:14 PM
Well, well, well.
This isn't the Bengals team I'm used to.
Nor is it the Ravens team I'm used to.
Wow. Seriously, why doesn't Brad St. Louis just retire now? I swear, I'm showing up at PBS tomorrow morning to try out for his job. I'll even take the league minimum salary.
Quote from: Neil on October 11, 2009, 02:16:52 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 11, 2009, 02:14:14 PM
Well, well, well.
This isn't the Bengals team I'm used to.
Nor is it the Ravens team I'm used to.
Yeah, I don't know if it's the shuffling of the OL, or the playcalling, but I'm inclined to credit the Bengals defense.
Also hilarious: The Cowgirls losing to KC.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 11, 2009, 02:23:15 PM
Yeah, I don't know if it's the shuffling of the OL, or the playcalling, but I'm inclined to credit the Bengals defense.
To some degree. It's hard to see where the receivers are going, but it doesn't look like they're stretching the field the way they did earlier.
THE NFL NEEDS TO PROTECT PALMER'S WRIST :angry:
This is all getting rather annoying.
I can feel derspiess' forehead emanating pulses of hope, and it needs to end.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 11, 2009, 02:33:44 PM
I can feel derspiess' forehead emanating pulses of hope, and it needs to end.
Don't worry-- I've been beaten down too many times to have any hope until after the fact.
What a play by Rice :lol:
Nice tackling there.
Now THAT'S what the fuck I'm talking about, Rutgersboi.
Ray Rice is crazy. Not only is he averaging 6 yards a carry this year, but every game he's good for a play that makes you do a double take.
Now, all of you know damned well that was a bullshit call.
Ray Ray lost his cool a bit there. :P
They will call that every time, good call.
Seedy is going to be pissed if Cincy pulls this out.
I better log off. I feel a disturbance in the force.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2009, 03:07:41 PM
I better log off. I feel a disturbance in the force.
Goddamned right you do.
If they're going to get flagged, they might as well start paralyzing some niggers.
It's all the refs fault in 3...2....1 :lol:
Fuckin Cowboys :mad:
Also, I hate that "Cardiac Cats" nickname.
KISS THE BABY.
Quote from: katmai on October 11, 2009, 03:10:13 PM
It's all the refs fault in 3...2....1 :lol:
If they had called Chat Johnson's pass interference it might have been different. :whistle:
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2009, 03:11:22 PM
Also, I hate that "Cardiac Cats" nickname.
I hate everything those announcers did. Has anyone ever referred to Ray Lewis as the Landshark?
Quote from: katmai on October 11, 2009, 03:10:13 PM
It's all the refs fault in 3...2....1 :lol:
I'm not even going to respond to that. Lying eyes, and all that.
Quote from: Neil on October 11, 2009, 03:12:39 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2009, 03:11:22 PM
Also, I hate that "Cardiac Cats" nickname.
I hate everything those announcers did. Has anyone ever referred to Ray Lewis as the Landshark?
Normally Tasker is usually competent, but today he was a fucking 'tard.
I wonder which coach's wife will have to die for Cincy's defense next week.
KARDIAC KATS KARDIAK CATS LOLLERKATZ LOLZS
Quote from: Neil on October 11, 2009, 03:12:39 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2009, 03:11:22 PM
Also, I hate that "Cardiac Cats" nickname.
I hate everything those announcers did. Has anyone ever referred to Ray Lewis as the Landshark?
About the same number of people in Cincy who call the Bungles the "Cardiac Cats"-- i.e., zero.
I thought he said "mudshark". :blush:
Quote from: derspiess on October 11, 2009, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 11, 2009, 03:12:39 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2009, 03:11:22 PM
Also, I hate that "Cardiac Cats" nickname.
I hate everything those announcers did. Has anyone ever referred to Ray Lewis as the Landshark?
About the same number of people in Cincy who call the Bungles the "Cardiac Cats"-- i.e., zero.
The media is going to try, try, try.
Quote from: Neil on October 11, 2009, 03:21:48 PM
The media is going to try, try, try.
Oh yeah, get ready for a whole week of ZOMG TEH KARDIACK KATZ
Denver's throwbacks make them look like Oompa Loompas.
Baltimore's in trouble, going to Minnesota next week. I knew this was going to be a difficult 3 game stretch, and they're 0-2 so far. Not good.
Lol the cowgirls are in ot with chiefs.
You know what, I'm not convinced that the Ravens' secondary is the weak point on the defence. There was no pass rush whatsoever today.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 11, 2009, 03:29:31 PM
Oh yeah, get ready for a whole week of ZOMG TEH KARDIACK KATZ
Denver's throwbacks make them look like Oompa Loompas.
Baltimore's in trouble, going to Minnesota next week. I knew this was going to be a difficult 3 game stretch, and they're 0-2 so far. Not good.
what fucking year are those bronco jerseys suppose to be from?
Quote from: katmai on October 11, 2009, 03:32:22 PM
what fucking year are those bronco jerseys suppose to be from?
They look like something the Redskins would wear. In hell.
So anyone have miles austin in lffl? Wow
Quote from: katmai on October 11, 2009, 03:32:22 PM
what fucking year are those bronco jerseys suppose to be from?
1960, IIRC.
Quote from: katmai on October 11, 2009, 03:47:51 PM
So anyone have miles austin in lffl? Wow
Scip does. 34 points... damn.
The Patriots stock as an organization would marginally move up for me if they went back to their Craig James-Mosi Tatupu-Steve Grogan-with-the-neckbar uniforms. Marginally.
The hiking Minuteman still rocks.
And while they're at it, bring back those stupid Broncos Orange Crush/Big John Elway uniforms.
Yep I was annoyed when they switched to the new bronco logo and colors, still am.
PATS LOSE! PATS LOSE!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
KARDIAC BRONKS and whatnot.
How int he hell are they 5-0? I can't think of a more surprising team in my lifetime. I thought they would win 2-3 games all year.
KYLE ORTON IS JESUS! :wub: Too bad he's a Bronco. :( Good to see The Emperor of Hoodies did the world's quickest "search" for Darth McDaniels before running to the tunnel to cry.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2009, 06:47:56 PM
PATS LOSE! PATS LOSE!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Only because of the genius of a former Pats coach. :(
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 11, 2009, 06:59:30 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 11, 2009, 06:47:56 PM
PATS LOSE! PATS LOSE!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Only because of the genius of a former Pats coach. :(
Mike Nolan was never a Patriot coach, tool.
I have to congratulate the Redskins on exceeding even my expectations for suckiness.
Way to blow a big 2nd half lead guys.
Wow, the Raiders are even more dysfunctional than I thought.
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QuoteHanson: My life was threatened by Cable
By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports
Oct 11, 2:06 am EDT
Buzz up! 380 PrintWALNUT CREEK, Calif. – When Oakland Raiders coach Tom Cable told his assistants after a sloppy Aug. 4 training-camp practice that he planned to meet privately that night with the team's defensive backs, Randy Hanson was sure how things would play out.
"You know what's gonna happen there," Hanson, a defensive assistant who had worked closely with the team's secondary, predicted to a small group of fellow staff members. "Tom's gonna come out of the meeting and say I'm the problem, that I'm the one confusing them and blame it all on me."
Hanson was right: Later that night, Cable informed him that the Raiders' cornerbacks and safeties had pegged him as "the problem," exacerbating the tension that Hanson says had been festering between the two coaches since January, when Hanson was hired by owner Al Davis before Cable had been offered a permanent head-coaching role.
What Hanson says he never saw coming was an alleged violent attack by Cable the following morning that left him with a fractured jaw and a polluted relationship with the franchise he has loved since childhood.
"From my blindside, Tom Cable threw me from my chair and into a piece of furniture that a lamp sat upon," Hanson told Yahoo! Sports Friday during an extensive interview at a Bay Area restaurant. "He was screaming, 'I'll f——- kill you! I'll f——- kill you!' And I have no reason to believe he wouldn't have killed me if they hadn't pulled him away.
"If my head would've hit a different way, I might be dead right now."
In his first public comments since the Aug. 5 incident that took place in a meeting room at the Marriott-Napa Valley, Hanson repeated the version of events that he gave to a Napa Police Department detective late last month. According to a source close to the investigation, three witnesses – Raiders defensive coordinator John Marshall, defensive backs coach Lionel Washington and assistant defensive backs coach Willie Brown – also provided statements to police investigators which corroborated Hanson's account of the incident.
The two-month investigation is now under review by Napa County district attorney Gary Lieberstein, who could decide to file felony assault charges against Cable. Hanson's San Francisco-based attorney, John McGuinn, told AOL FanHouse last week that "this really is a textbook case of felony assault." Cable, who has reportedly retained a criminal defense attorney, could be seeking a plea deal that might allow him to avoid jail time.
Cable may also face discipline under the NFL's personal conduct policy. According to Greg Aiello, the league's senior vice president of public relations, commissioner Roger Goodell did not meet with Cable this weekend during the team's visit to New Jersey – the 1-3 Raiders face the New York Giants on Sunday – and no meeting is currently planned. However, Goodell acknowledged earlier during the week that the league is "closely monitoring the case."
The Raiders did not respond to requests Saturday by Yahoo! Sports to speak with Davis, Cable and Marshall, and separate phone calls to Washington and Brown were not returned. Reached Saturday night by phone, Marshall confirmed he had been interviewed by a Napa Police officer and said, "I can't talk about any of this."
Cable has previously denied attacking Hanson, claiming in an Aug. 18 interview following a training-camp practice that "nothing happened" and later insisting that "when the facts come out, everything will be fine."
Hanson, 41, who is still getting paid by the Raiders, says he never wanted the incident to be publicized and sent a letter to the organization saying he would accept a reassignment of duties to avoid being a distraction to the team. A fervent Raiders fan since his days growing up in western Washington's Skagit Valley, Hanson said he still roots for the team – he showed up for Friday's interview wearing a thick, black shirt with a silver "Raiders" logo.
Though it has been suggested that Hanson was a snitch for Davis who reported to the owner about the behavior of his fellow coaches, he adamantly denied that depiction. However, Hanson conceded that Cable "might have been paranoid about my relationship with Mr. Davis because I was hired by him."
Known for his intense work ethic and aptitude in breaking down opponents' tendencies, Hanson was a highly regarded offensive assistant during a three-year stint with the Minnesota Vikings from 2003 to 2005.
"Randy Hanson's a great coach," said former Vikings center Matt Birk(notes), a perennial Pro Bowl selection now with the Baltimore Ravens. "He would break down opposing defenses for us, and he was outstanding. He's an extremely hard worker. That used to be the joke – he never stopped. He'd sleep in the office and watch every bit of tape he could find."
Added former Vikings quarterback Brad Johnson(notes): "I really enjoyed being around him. He brought a lot of flavor to the room and to the field, and I thought he had a lot of insights into game plans."
After spending the '06 season with the St. Louis Rams, Hanson was let out of his contract to join first-year coach Lane Kiffin's Oakland staff because, he says, then Rams-coach Scott Linehan was aware of his devotion to the Raiders. In Oakland, he worked as an assistant secondary coach in charge of third-down defenses and impressed his fellow coaches with his knowledge of opposing offenses and his ability to convey his insights to the players.
"He knows what the opposing team's gonna do before they know what they're gonna do," said one former Raiders assistant who worked closely with Hanson. "That's how much tape he watches. And he's a damn good football coach, too."
After making some disparaging locker-room comments about the Raiders' preparation following the team's 41-14 defeat to the Denver Broncos at the start of the 2008 season, Hanson received a five-day suspension for insubordination from Kiffin, who did not inform Davis of his action. The owner cited this as one of many reasons for Kiffin's dismissal during a press conference last Oct. 1 to announce the firing.
Shortly after Cable was named interim coach, Hanson claims Cable told him in a staff meeting, "If I could fire you, I would."
Following the '08 season Cable told his assistants that he would meet with each of them to discuss their futures with the team should he be hired as the permanent coach. According to Hanson, however, Cable "met with every guy but me."
On Jan. 20, Hanson had what he said was his first-ever "one-on-one, face-to-face meeting" with the owner. In what was supposed to be a 15-minute session to address Hanson's prospects of remaining with the team, the coach apparently wowed the owner with his grasp of football and with his knowledge of Raiders history.
"We met for more than two-and-a-half hours," Hanson recalled. "At the start of the meeting, he said, 'I know you're a hard worker and you love the Raiders, but I don't know what you do that helps this football team. I do not know if you can coach or not.' By the end he had given me a raise and told me he wanted me to stay on as 'assistant coach-defense.' My role would be to teach the new defensive coaches what we did on defense last year so they'll know some of the things I like. He also said he wanted to groom me on the personnel side. He said he wanted me to play an important role in the future of the organization."
At the conclusion of the meeting, Hanson was asked by Davis whether he thought Cable would be a good choice as head coach. "I told Mr. Davis yes," Hanson recalled. "He won his last two games, and I felt like he deserved a chance."
However, after Cable was officially hired in early February, Hanson quickly began to suspect that the head coach did not share the owner's enthusiasm for his new role.
First Cable, at the press conference announcing his hiring, laid out his staff for reporters without mentioning Hanson. The following day, according to Hanson, Cable told him that he had just had a phone conversation with Davis in which the owner had described Hanson as a quality-control coach, a much less prestigious post with mostly administrative responsibilities.
Recalled Hanson: "Tom said, 'Don't worry – I'm not going to do that to you. I'll make you a defensive assistant.' Tom demoted me, and I became the league's highest-paid defensive assistant."
The slights continued over the spring. Hanson was told by Cable's assistant not to accompany the rest of the staff to the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis, and he ended up being given duties similar to that of a secretary. Hanson wasn't invited to several staff functions, including a post-draft party and a trip to an Oakland A's game.
At a post-draft minicamp for rookies and free agents, Hanson said Cable "belittled" him in the process of introducing staff members to the players by implying that he was an assistant quality-control coach.
Shortly before training camp, Davis grilled Marshall, the team's new defensive coordinator, during a meeting. As Marshall struggled to answer a question from the owner, Hanson assisted the veteran coach by giving hand signals from the back of the room. Cable, Hanson said, seemed to have been angered by his actions.
The tension escalated early in training camp as Cable decided to split the team into two units and conduct side-by-side practices for the first four days. That meant Hanson and Washington coached on separate fields for the first eight practices, which exacerbated the coaches' confusion over a new blitz scheme that they were trying to teach the players.
"We had changed the blitz package two or three times over a short period, and everybody was really confused and frustrated," Hanson said. "We ended up changing it a fourth time – back to the way it was in OTAs (organized team activities) – and one of the players said in a meeting, 'This is confusing.' I said, 'You guys are [f——-] right – we're all confused, and that includes the coaches. We've got to get on the same page. Don't worry. We'll get it right.' "
On the evening of Aug. 4, the Raiders conducted a traditional, full-team practice in Napa that, Hanson said, "wasn't one of our best." After Hanson predicted that he would be blamed for the defensive problems, the other coaches told him he was being paranoid. Cable, following a 45-minute session with the defensive backs, summoned Brown, Washington and Hanson to an outside patio area and told Hanson, "They don't want you in there."
Cable told Hanson he wasn't sure how he planned to remedy the situation and would get back to him in a couple of hours. Hanson then told his fellow assistants, "If The Man [Davis] calls you about this, tell the truth" – a statement he believes may have gotten back to Cable and increased his ire.
"If Tom knew that I had called what was going to happen, and if he thought I had talked to Mr. Davis about it, maybe he thought his cover had been blown and his plan had been thwarted," Hanson said.
Cable never got back to Hanson that night, and the next morning he told the assistant not to come out to practice. Afterward, Hanson was summoned to a small conference room for a conversation with Cable. Hanson sat at a small rectangular table while Cable stood near the door.
Recalled Hanson: "Tom said, 'Randy, tell me, why would these players say these things about you and not want you around them?' I said, 'Tom, they didn't come to you; you went in there and created a problem. If this is true, how come I've never heard of this from any of the other coaches?' He said, 'And that's what pisses me off – that these guys would keep this from me. I'm gonna bring 'em in."
At that point, Hanson said, Marshall, Washington and Brown were summoned to the room and took seats at the table. Hanson said that when questioned by Cable both Washington and Brown stuck up for his abilities.
Then, Hanson recalled, "John said, 'Well, Tom, Randy's been great. He knows this stuff and has been a big help for me. But I've been coaching for 30 years in the NFL, and when a player comes to a coach with a problem about an assistant, you've got to get him off the field. And I have told Randy on several occasions, 'Don't confuse the players.' "
At that point, Hanson continued, "I said, 'John, I'm so disappointed. That's a lie.' From the side I heard Tom scream, 'That's bulls—-,' and before I knew it Tom had blindsided me."
Hanson said he lay on the floor, dazed, as Cable told him to "Get the f—- up." Marshall helped him back into his chair, at which point Cable said, "I'm not gonna let you ruin my football team. If you want to be on my team, you are gonna be off the field, and you're gonna do all the quality-control work, but you're not to be around those f——- players. Do you accept the position?"
Recalled Hanson, "Willie was gesturing to me, 'Just say yes,' because he probably was worn out from pulling Tom away twice before."
Hanson told Cable he needed time to consider the request, and Cable said, "I'll come back to you in a couple of hours for an answer." After going back to his room, Hanson said, he received a call from a Raiders defensive back who had heard about the incident. "He told me that what Tom said had happened in that meeting wasn't the way it went down," Hanson said. "It was nothing like what Tom said occurred, and several players later told me the same thing."
Not wanting news of the incident to leak and embarrassed to be seen because of his swollen face, Hanson stayed in his room until late that night, when the pain became pronounced. Early Wednesday morning Hanson went to the emergency room at Queen of the Valley hospital in Napa, where he was given X-rays. Hospital officials, as required by law, informed the Napa Police that Hanson had said he'd suffered the injury in an assault, and an officer later arrived to question him.
"I downplayed the whole thing and didn't give them any names," Hanson said. "The last thing I wanted was publicity. I said, 'You know what the message is? The Raiders are back.' "
The next day Hanson received a call from a hospital employee telling him he had a fractured upper left jawbone; he also suffered two cracked teeth, a bruised knee and a bruised back. He returned to his home in Livermore and tried to communicate with Cable, but the coach never contacted him.
Davis had been out of town at the time of the incident – he was on the East Coast giving a deposition to a lawyer for Kiffin, who is challenging the owner's decision not to pay him the balance of his contract. He did not meet with Hanson until Aug. 16, 11 days after the incident.
At that meeting, Hanson said, Davis told him he'd be a distraction to the team if he were allowed to return to his former role and that such a move would be seen as Davis undermining his head coach. Davis gave Hanson three choices: Move over to the personnel side; accept Cable's proposal to perform quality-control duties while staying away from the players; or receive the balance of his contract (which runs through the 2010 season) without returning to the organization.
"You're Tuck-Ruling me," Hanson told Davis, comparing the perceived injustice to the controversial replay reversal that cost the Raiders a victory over the New England Patriots in the 2001 playoffs.
Yet despite his frustration, Hanson has remained loyal to the organization. Late last month McGuinn, his attorney, told NFL.com that several Raiders players had solicited Hanson's input about upcoming opponents, with one even giving him a team laptop that used to belong to Brown. "Al Davis doesn't know [Hanson has] been providing detailed coaching for these guys, and Randy has not gotten any credit for it," McGuinn told the league's website.
A source said one Raiders assistant has also reached out to Hanson in recent weeks. Hanson declined to comment about any help he might have provided to players or others in the organization since he was barred from visiting the team's facility.
After holding out for more than seven weeks, Hanson finally gave a 90-minute interview to Napa Police detective Mike Walund on Sept. 26 during which he turned over medical records. While Hanson is not sure what will happen next – "That's in the police's hands," he said – he can't help but root for the Raiders on Sundays.
"I watch every game," Hanson said. "I want them to win. Once a Raider, always a Raider."
Asked whether he plans to sue Cable and/or the organization, Hanson said, "I wish this had never happened. I was hoping it wouldn't get to this point. But sometimes you've got to be a Raider, too. I mean, if he were in my situation, what would Mr. Davis do?"
:huh:
I just posted that.
Quote from: Neil on October 11, 2009, 03:31:05 PM
You know what, I'm not convinced that the Ravens' secondary is the weak point on the defence. There was no pass rush whatsoever today.
I told seedy I was worried about this two weeks ago. <_<
I don't know Tom Cable, but going by some of the NFL coaches I do know, it would not surprise me if the story above is 100% true.
Quote from: Alcibiades on October 11, 2009, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 11, 2009, 03:31:05 PM
You know what, I'm not convinced that the Ravens' secondary is the weak point on the defence. There was no pass rush whatsoever today.
I told seedy I was worried about this two weeks ago. <_<
Yup. At first I thought it an early-season aberration, but now I'm convinced: they're getting no rush from the down linemen, and nobody's collapsing the pocket. Foxworth and Washington are getting absolutely no help from the line in man coverage, and they need all the help they can get.
Overall, this was the first time this season the Ravens didn't show up for a game. They were outhit, outblocked, outcoached.
Tennessee has got problems.
Quote from: Alcibiades on October 11, 2009, 09:42:47 PM
I told seedy I was worried about this two weeks ago. <_<
Bungles' blocking is much improved this year. And I warned you guys how good their defense is :)
Quote from: derspiess on October 11, 2009, 10:02:28 PM
Bungles' blocking is much improved this year. And I warned you guys how good their defense is :)
...... Nobody cares about the bungles. Ravens secondary sucks now.
Quote from: Alcibiades on October 11, 2009, 10:07:46 PM
...... Nobody cares about the bungles. Ravens secondary sucks now.
:lol:
I want to see Cable suspended for a few games and have Al Davis come down and coach the team instead.
Quote from: sbr on October 11, 2009, 10:11:19 PM
I want to see Cable suspended for a few games and have Al Davis come down and coach the team instead.
That would be awesome! :lol:
All you'd be doing is just cutting the puppet strings. I doubt much would change. <_<
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on October 12, 2009, 01:02:19 AM
All you'd be doing is just cutting the puppet strings. I doubt much would change. <_<
If anything changed it would be for the worse, which is why I want to see it. :P
Austin Collie. :wub:
Quote from: Alcibiades on October 11, 2009, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 11, 2009, 10:02:28 PM
Bungles' blocking is much improved this year. And I warned you guys how good their defense is :)
...... Nobody cares about the bungles. Ravens secondary sucks now.
The alternative--a resurgent Bungles team--is an alternative too horrific to contemplate.
Quote from: Liep on October 12, 2009, 04:35:37 AM
Austin Collie. :wub:
Yeah, he fucked me and won your game. :mad:
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on October 12, 2009, 01:02:19 AM
All you'd be doing is just cutting the puppet strings. I doubt much would change. <_<
Every other offensive play would be a 50 yard long bomb. :cool:
Quote from: Vince on October 12, 2009, 08:31:35 AM
Every other offensive play would be a 50 yard long bomb. :cool:
Darrel Lamonica! :woot:
It's been a while since I saw a team play as badly on both sides of the ball as the Raiders did on Sunday. Jamarcus Russell has as much business playing QB in the NFL as I have being the prima ballerina of the Bolshoi.
Free agent wide receivers David Tyree and Ronald Curry tried out for the Ravens Monday. …
Last week the NFL beat you over the head about breast cancer, this week is "let's pander to Hispanics" :bleeding:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 12, 2009, 06:38:11 PM
Free agent wide receivers David Tyree and Ronald Curry tried out for the Ravens Monday. ...
Are they going to be pass rushing?
Quote from: Neil on October 12, 2009, 10:09:59 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 12, 2009, 06:38:11 PM
Free agent wide receivers David Tyree and Ronald Curry tried out for the Ravens Monday. ...
Are they going to be pass rushing?
:lol:
Quote from: Neil on October 12, 2009, 10:09:59 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 12, 2009, 06:38:11 PM
Free agent wide receivers David Tyree and Ronald Curry tried out for the Ravens Monday. ...
Are they going to be pass rushing?
:lol:
I saw parts of the Ravens game with the Red Zone Channel, but not much. What happened to the Ravens' offense? Flacco completed a decent number and percentage of passes (22/31) but he had so few yards (186). Did they even try to throw the ball down field? Did Flacco not have enough time? Not to ignore the Ravens' lack of a pass rush, but they
HAVE to score more than 7 points on offense in that game.
Quote from: sbr on October 12, 2009, 10:16:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 12, 2009, 10:09:59 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 12, 2009, 06:38:11 PM
Free agent wide receivers David Tyree and Ronald Curry tried out for the Ravens Monday. ...
Are they going to be pass rushing?
:lol:
I saw parts of the Ravens game with the Red Zone Channel, but not much. What happened to the Ravens' offense? Flacco completed a decent number and percentage of passes (22/31) but he had so few yards (186). Did they even try to throw the ball down field? Did Flacco not have enough time? Not to ignore the Ravens' lack of a pass rush, but they HAVE to score more than 7 points on offense in that game.
There was some pressure, but not unbearably so. The playcalling didn't help them.
Quote from: derspiess on October 12, 2009, 09:36:14 PM
Last week the NFL beat you over the head about breast cancer, this week is "let's pander to Hispanics" :bleeding:
You don't want them pandering to your son?
Quote from: Neil on October 12, 2009, 10:20:45 PM
There was some pressure, but not unbearably so. The playcalling didn't help them.
Playcalling was too conservative. Flacco is still fairly young, but he should have been given a chance to win the game. The rushing TD almost seemed to vindicate the playcalling, but the play itself was a bit of a fluke and the Ravens might have already been up if they had opened things up a bit more. IIRC, Mason didn't catch a pass until late in the 3rd quarter, though the Bungles D had
something to do with that :)
Quote from: katmai on October 12, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
You don't want them pandering to your son?
Believe me, that's not necessary. He goes nuts every time he sees any football on TV.
But as a Hispandex person yourself, I trust you're properly inspired by the fact that J-Lo, Mark Anthony, and Gloria Estefan own 2% of the Dolphins :P
Quote from: sbr on October 12, 2009, 10:16:55 PM
I saw parts of the Ravens game with the Red Zone Channel, but not much. What happened to the Ravens' offense? Flacco completed a decent number and percentage of passes (22/31) but he had so few yards (186). Did they even try to throw the ball down field? Did Flacco not have enough time? Not to ignore the Ravens' lack of a pass rush, but they HAVE to score more than 7 points on offense in that game.
Bengals totally shut down the deep routes. All of Flacco's completions were virtually checkdowns, screens and flats. That's why they need a marque WR like a Brandon Marshall; Derrick Mason can slice the Kansas Citys and Clevelands of the league, but he's limited. Bengals shut down everything beyond 15 yards.
Neil's right; the playcalling was totally mystifying. That being said, Willis McGahee only had 2 touches all game. Unacceptable. Really though, they were totally not ready to play.
Then again, if Flacco connected on that deep pass that Clayton totally burned the defense when they were up, it's game over. But I think that was he deepest pass attempt of the game. IN-GAME MUSCLE MEMORY FTW
Quote from: derspiess on October 12, 2009, 10:37:03 PM
Quote from: katmai on October 12, 2009, 10:33:22 PM
You don't want them pandering to your son?
Believe me, that's not necessary. He goes nuts every time he sees any football on TV.
But as a Hispandex person yourself, I trust you're properly inspired by the fact that J-Lo, Mark Anthony, and Gloria Estefan own 2% of the Dolphins :P
Ugh...between Obama's Hispanic Heritage Month message, the announcers pronouncing him San-CHEZ, and the NFLatino commercials, I'm about ready to go loco.
What's with the San-CHEZ pronunciation anyways?
This is a nice little MNF game going here. How many lead changes so far?
Did I hear correctly during the interview with San-CHEZ before the game (or at halftime?) when he said he doesn't speak any Spanish? :lol:
About flippin' time they put in Pat White :angry:
Quote from: derspiess on October 12, 2009, 10:43:27 PM
Did I hear correctly during the interview with San-CHEZ before the game (or at halftime?) when he said he doesn't speak any Spanish? :lol:
:lol: Yeah.
Hell of a game. Ricky Williams looked damn good-- there must be a bonus in his contract that is paid in weed or something.
Quote from: derspiess on October 12, 2009, 10:43:27 PM
Did I hear correctly during the interview with San-CHEZ before the game (or at halftime?) when he said he doesn't speak any Spanish? :lol:
see we can assimilate!
He is 3rd generation mex-am like myself :p
Derspicy:
lol yeah just saw that tonight about the Estefan/anthony/ jlo ownership deal.
QuoteWildcat helps Dolphins beat Jets 31-27
By STEVEN WINE, AP Sports Writer
MIAMI (AP)—When the wildcat delivered a big play for the Miami Dolphins, coach Tony Sparano skipped along the sideline with glee, reached back and threw a roundhouse punch.
That was just in the first quarter. The knockout came much later, again with the wildcat.
Running back Ronnie Brown took the snap with 10 seconds left and scored on a 2-yard keeper for the fifth lead change of the final period, giving Miami a wild 31-27 victory over the New York Jets on Monday night.
Newcomer Braylon Edwards provided a big boost for the Jets, and two fake punts fooled the Dolphins. But Miami gained 110 yards with the wildcat, which was instrumental in three touchdown drives, including the last one.
"Like anything else, if you execute, good things will happen," Brown said.
Jets coach Rex Ryan was annoyed the wildcat kept working.
"I used to see all those gimmicks when I was coaching back in college," Ryan said. "I've been a part of some bad performances before on defense, just not this bad."
The Dolphins started from their own 30-yard line with 5:05 left, trailing 27-24, and mounted a 13-play drive for the winning score. The march included four wildcat plays for 25 yards, the last on third down at the 2.
"We were in the huddle and said, `We've got to score a touchdown. No settling for field goals. We've got to finish the game,"' Brown said.
He ran up the middle, found a seam and crossed the goal line with 6 seconds to go. Even Brown's teammates on the sideline were surprised by the call.
"That's why we are players and not coaches," Miami defensive tackle Jason Ferguson said. "All of us were talking about, 'Why won't you pass it?' Because we got a touchdown, that's why."
The resilient Dolphins (2-3) came from behind three times in the fourth quarter, and they're back in the AFC East race after losing their first three games. The Jets (3-2) have lost two straight and fell into a tie with New England for first place.
The game became a shootout reminiscent of the Dolphins' Dan Marino days, and filling that role just fine was Chad Henne.
In only his second NFL start, Henne completed 20 of 26 for 241 yards and two touchdowns. He threw deep to Ted Ginn Jr. for a 53-yard score to give Miami a 24-20 lead with 10:10 left.
"We made him look like Dan Marino," Jets linebacker Calvin Pace said. "They did what they want, and they did it at will."
The Jets kept answering with Edwards, acquired in a trade with Cleveland a week ago. He caught one scoring pass and set up New York's other two touchdowns. The Jets' fake punts set up a TD and a field goal.
The Dolphins' trickery came via the wildcat, which they ran 16 times. On the game's opening drive, Miami threw out of the formation for the first time this season, and Brown connected with tight end Anthony Fasano for a 21-yard gain. Ricky Williams then ran for 18 yards from the wildcat, and Brown scored on a 1-yard plunge on third down to cap a 7 1/2 -minute drive.
The Dolphins used the wildcat five times in a TD drive that consumed nearly 9 minutes of the second half. But while they relied on ball control for much of the game, they also showed a newfound ability to strike quickly.
Ginn beat Darrelle Revis and two other Jets deep, catching Henne's long pass just before crossing the goal line. It was a rare long gain by the Dolphins, who came into the game with only two completions of 20 yards or more to wide receivers.
"Teddy ran a great route, and they gave us the coverage we wanted," Henne said.
Williams set up a field goal when he gained 59 yards on a reception, with all the yards coming after the catch. He finished with 68 yards rushing on 11 carries, and Brown ran for 74 yards in 21 attempts.
The Dolphins totaled 413 yards, converting nine of 14 third-down chances and controlling the ball for 33 1/2 minutes.
"We were definitely in a dog fight for 60 minutes," Henne said. "It shows a lot of character in our team."
Jets rookie Mark Sanchez was 12 of 24 for 172 yards and benefited immediately from the addition of Edwards, who caught a 3-yard scoring pass to cap his first series with the Jets. Edwards made a leaping 34-yard catch on third-and-21 to set up another TD.
"Everyone saw it—he's a big-time receiver," Ryan said. "That's one thing we did right last week was make that trade for him."
NOTES: Dolphins third-string RB Patrick Cobbs came out of the game in the fourth quarter with a knee injury. ... Jets WR David Clowney also hobbled out of the game in the fourth quarter. ... The Jets' Steve Weatherford ran 26 yards with a fake punt. It was only the second carry of his four-year career.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 12, 2009, 06:38:11 PM
Free agent wide receivers David Tyree and Ronald Curry tried out for the Ravens Monday. ...
Curry had some great potential, just never fully realized as a Raider. He's made some amazing catches in his time. Injuries and disagreements with Al and friends killed him though. He also used to be a qb in college, so he's got that aspect going for him as well.
Quote from: katmai on October 13, 2009, 01:28:42 AM
see we can assimilate!
He is 3rd generation mex-am like myself :p
I've got you on my "dissimilation" watch list :contract:
Anywho, I loved the delicious irony of all the hoopla about there being a "hispanic" QB who might not know enough Spanish to order at Taco Bell. But at least he said his brother "speaks a little" Spanish :)
If I were Hispandex, I'd find the "NFLatino" outreach thing a bit patronizing.
Just realized I used "delicious" in the same sentence as "Taco Bell". Sorry, everyone :(
Quote from: katmai on October 13, 2009, 01:28:42 AM
see we can assimilate!
He is 3rd generation mex-am like myself :p
What is it, like 85% of third generation speak no real amount of Spanish unless they take it in school?
And he should pronounce his name "Sain-cheez" for added flavor.
I guess the only thing worse than losing to the Bungles on the road is losing to them at home.
I'd talk more shit but Karma is a bitch.
Quote from: Strix on October 13, 2009, 10:32:09 AM
I guess the only thing worse than losing to the Bungles on the road is losing to them at home.
I'd talk more shit but Karma is a bitch.
Both of your teams are behind the Bungles in the standings, so yeah, you might want to halt the shit-talking :P
Quote from: derspiess on October 13, 2009, 11:12:14 AM
Quote from: Strix on October 13, 2009, 10:32:09 AM
I guess the only thing worse than losing to the Bungles on the road is losing to them at home.
I'd talk more shit but Karma is a bitch.
Both of your teams are behind the Bungles in the standings, so yeah, you might want to halt the shit-talking :P
The Steelers aren't scared of the Bungles. It will only take another Palmer "Knee Roll" to end their season. :menace:
Quote from: Strix on October 13, 2009, 01:08:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 13, 2009, 11:12:14 AM
Quote from: Strix on October 13, 2009, 10:32:09 AM
I guess the only thing worse than losing to the Bungles on the road is losing to them at home.
I'd talk more shit but Karma is a bitch.
Both of your teams are behind the Bungles in the standings, so yeah, you might want to halt the shit-talking :P
The Steelers aren't scared of the Bungles. It will only take another Palmer "Knee Roll" to end their season. :menace:
Karma, dude. :contract:
Ironically the Jets offense does well this week and the defense can't do shit to stop the Wildcat. Which is frustrating since Rex Ryan shut it down twice last year.
Still 3-2 is a hell of alot better than I thought the Jets would be at this point. Now 4 games against sub-500 teams lets see if they can do well on the easy part of their schedule.
With the mighty Cedric Benson the Bungles shall destroy all!
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Quote from: PDH on October 13, 2009, 10:25:39 AM
Quote from: katmai on October 13, 2009, 01:28:42 AM
see we can assimilate!
He is 3rd generation mex-am like myself :p
What is it, like 85% of third generation speak no real amount of Spanish unless they take it in school?
And he should pronounce his name "Sain-cheez" for added flavor.
sounds about right, of my cousins I think the ratio of us that speak Spanish fluently is 3/11 and those three do on their fathers side they are 1st generation born here in USA( my uncle in law was born in Mexico)
Quote from: Valmy on October 13, 2009, 01:45:32 PM
With the mighty Cedric Benson the Bungles shall destroy all!
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http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog/roto_arcade/post/Sunday-Scene-Week-5-Denver-please-throw-em-b;_ylt=AliBYg.awP_JTq1Z9tYVxiO5bZ8u?urn=fantasy,195226
This amused me
Quote• Baltimore's defense had not allowed a 100-yard rushing performance since 2006, but Cedric Benson(notes) put an end to the streak on Sunday. He carried 27 times for 120 yards and a TD. The touchdown was of the highest quality, too. Benson spun away from a tackle behind the line of scrimmage – something he demonstrated no ability to do in Chicago – then sprinted 28 yards to the end zone. Yes, sprinted, outracing live NFL defensive backs.
Honestly, if given a chance, I would have borrowed money to bet against Benson hitting triple-digits on Sunday. But he's now rushed for at least 74 yards in every game this season. His line is blocking, he's absolutely delivering.
I'm not sure that I even care to manage fantasy teams in a world where Benson is an every-week starter. This really should have been my sabbatical year. No mas, Cedric. You've made your point, sir. Just wish you could have made it in 2007.
:lol: Benson is getting some really good blocking. The Bungles O-line has surprised me almost as much as the defense this year.
This is, what's really driving Cincy is a 100% Carson Palmer. And that concerns me.