Reuters: Congo prosecutor wants death penalty for Norwegians (http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE57R0LI20090828)
QuoteKISANGANI, Congo (Reuters) - A military prosecutor in Congo asked a court on Friday to sentence to death two Norwegians accused of killing their driver in the lawless east of the country in May this year.
The Norwegians, Joshua French, 27, and Tjostolv Moland, 28, were charged with murder, attempted murder, espionage, conspiracy and armed robbery after their driver was found dead with a gunshot wound to his head east of the city of Kisangani.
"May it please the garrison military court to say that the accusations against Tjostolv Moland and Joshua (French) are established and to sentence them ... to the death penalty," prosecutor Major Jean Blaise Bwa Mulundu said.
The Norwegians had previously served in Oslo's armed forces. Norwegian diplomats say contacts between the accused and their country's military or any other official organisation were discontinued in 2007.
It is not clear what the two accused were doing in the area. Ex-soldiers are frequently taken on by private security companies who have stepped up interest in the region due to oil discoveries under Lake Albert, which lies on the border between Democratic Republic of Congo and Uganda.
Mulundu requested the death penalty for each of the five charges against the two defendants. The verdict is expected to be handed down by the military court next week.
The prosecution demanded this week that Norway pay Congo $500 billion in damages over the incident.
French said he was not surprised by the prosecution's statement. "I don't think any recognised nation would accept this trial in any way or accept any of the evidence," he added.
French and Moland have said that 47-year-old driver Abedi Kasongo was shot and killed when their car was attacked by gunmen on the road, 100 km (60 miles) east of the town of Kisangani.
The men were travelling in Congo's northeastern Orientale province, which is still unstable and plagued by armed groups six years after the country's war officially ended.
But the region is starting to attract investors after the discovery of billions of barrels of oil on the Ugandan side of the border by London-listed Tullow Oil and Heritage Oil.
1. If those are 500 billion Congo-$ it'll be what? 10.34 EUR?
2. Is Joshua French a typical Norwegian name?
If Norwegians had any balls (and more importantly, any military to speak of), they would order a retaliatory military strike against these savages.
$500 billion is a couple rounds of beers in Norway, isn't it?
Quote from: Martinus on August 30, 2009, 06:51:52 AM
If Norwegians had any balls (and more importantly, any military to speak of), they would order a retaliatory military strike against these savages.
Unilateralist. :mad:
Quote from: Martinus on August 30, 2009, 06:51:52 AM
If Norwegians had any balls (and more importantly, any military to speak of), they would order a retaliatory military strike against these savages.
Somehow I think the Norwegian authorities don't care much:
QuoteNorwegian diplomats say contacts between the accused and their country's military or any other official organisation were discontinued in 2007.
Quote from: Syt on August 30, 2009, 07:21:18 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 30, 2009, 06:51:52 AM
If Norwegians had any balls (and more importantly, any military to speak of), they would order a retaliatory military strike against these savages.
Somehow I think the Norwegian authorities don't care much:
QuoteNorwegian diplomats say contacts between the accused and their country's military or any other official organisation were discontinued in 2007.
I think that was put in to disavow any "official" reason they would be in Congo, i.e. to argue against the spying charge.
QuoteThe Norwegians had previously served in Oslo's armed forces
Squee! The South (of Norway) has risen again!
What they are asking for is 1.3 times our sovereign wealth "oil" fund. A ludicrous amount of money but more importantly the Kingdom of Norway is not a party to this case and cannot be fined anything. Sovereign immunity (I think that is what it is called when you can't sue a country in civil court not in that country) also applies.
Joshua French is not a typical Norwegian. His names i pronounced with the English pronunciation in the news here. But he is Norwegian.
Quote from: Martinus on August 30, 2009, 06:51:52 AM
If Norwegians had any balls (and more importantly, any military to speak of), they would order a retaliatory military strike against these savages.
Norwegians don't have any balls. The military is busy shooting people in Afghanistan, which nobody is talking about.
What do law talkers think, is Congo likely to get their $500 billion?
Quote from: DGuller on August 30, 2009, 11:03:50 AM
What do law talkers think, is Congo likely to get their $500 billion?
Even if they got it, Nigerian scammers would have it all in six months.
The entire trial has been a complete farce, and it has only served to confirm my suspicions that all black africans are infact retarded.
The more notable funnies from the snippets I've seen:
- Accusations of espionage based on the fact that the accused were in the king's guard during their military service.
- Displaying a picture of a norwegian newspaper journalist clad in a mock SAS beret, pointing at Congo on a map as evidence that they are special forces sent by the King of Norway to destabilize Congo. Mostly since, "no one who is not military can wear a beret".
Apparently the owner of the car is demanding $10m in restitution since he's out a vehicle, aswell.
At the very least, Norway should immediately stop paying out welfare checks to those fucking barbarians.
Fucking cangaroo court.
Quote from: merithyn on August 30, 2009, 07:55:47 AM
Quote from: Syt on August 30, 2009, 07:21:18 AM
Quote from: Martinus on August 30, 2009, 06:51:52 AM
If Norwegians had any balls (and more importantly, any military to speak of), they would order a retaliatory military strike against these savages.
Somehow I think the Norwegian authorities don't care much:
QuoteNorwegian diplomats say contacts between the accused and their country's military or any other official organisation were discontinued in 2007.
I think that was put in to disavow any "official" reason they would be in Congo, i.e. to argue against the spying charge.
Unfortunately, that's the way it will look to people who haven't followed the trial.
In reality, the espionage and smuggling are complete and utter bollocks. They're working for a nominally Norwegian "security firm" that has actually moved to Uganda since the Norwegian government attempted to shut it down by way of imprisoning the owner on mercenary charges.
The claims about espionage, when taking into account the fairy tales they're spinning around the entire thing, hold no water what so ever.
Whether they actually murdered the driver is doubtful as well, since the standard for "evidence" seems to be pretty low where they're being tried.
Hey wait a second, didn't I hear this in a song before?
Roland was a warrior from the land of the midnight sun
With his Thompson gun for hire, fighting to be done
The deal was made in Denmark on a dark and stormy day
So he set out for Biafra to join the bloody fray
Through '66 and 7, they fought the Congo war
With their fingers on their triggers, knee deep in gore
For days and nights they battled the Bantu to their knees
They killed to earn their living and to help out the Congolese
Meanwhile, their captors continue to use the Pgymies as tater tots.
Since when can white people be charged in African courts of "tribal law" ?
Since WHEN, tell me, were the masters of this planet subject to the laws of barbarians?
Were I King Magnus, or Papa Hoiby or whoever rules that frigid paradise, the Congo would be in such a state as to make the Belgian days seem like song and dance. .
Quote from: Jaron on August 30, 2009, 03:25:50 PM
Since when can white people be charged in African courts of "tribal law" ?
Since WHEN, tell me, were the masters of this planet subject to the laws of barbarians?
Were I King Magnus, or Papa Hoiby or whoever rules that frigid paradise, the Congo would be in such a state as to make the Belgian days seem like song and dance. .
What happened to solidarity with other people of color? :(
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 30, 2009, 03:29:17 PM
Quote from: Jaron on August 30, 2009, 03:25:50 PM
Since when can white people be charged in African courts of "tribal law" ?
Since WHEN, tell me, were the masters of this planet subject to the laws of barbarians?
Were I King Magnus, or Papa Hoiby or whoever rules that frigid paradise, the Congo would be in such a state as to make the Belgian days seem like song and dance. .
What happened to solidarity with other people of color? :(
Mexican Native-Americans > African barbarians
Quote from: DGuller on August 30, 2009, 11:03:50 AM
What do law talkers think, is Congo likely to get their $500 billion?
Norwegian Law Talkers fall either on the side of "no fucking way" and "hahaha, you're killing me thats funny".
Sovereign immunity and the fact that Norway is not actually accused.
Also you Euros are so fucking tribal about not extraditing your citizens.
Quote from: Razgovory on August 30, 2009, 02:38:06 PM
Hey wait a second, didn't I hear this in a song before?
Roland was a warrior from the land of the midnight sun
With his Thompson gun for hire, fighting to be done
The deal was made in Denmark on a dark and stormy day
So he set out for Biafra to join the bloody fray
Through '66 and 7, they fought the Congo war
With their fingers on their triggers, knee deep in gore
For days and nights they battled the Bantu to their knees
They killed to earn their living and to help out the Congolese
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhRRWwH3Fro I always liked this one.
Quote from: Jaron on August 30, 2009, 03:25:50 PM
Were I King Magnus, or Papa Hoiby or whoever rules that frigid paradise, the Congo would be in such a state as to make the Belgian days seem like song and dance. .
so it'd be like today where almost everyone is dirt-poor, nothing works and half the country is embroiled in a decades-long insurgency/great war that has claimed the lives of millions.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgfx.dagbladet.no%2Flabrador%2F772%2F772074%2F7720748%2Fjpg%2Factive%2F960x.jpg&hash=d06f84ad77909ecb29f42e050cccf5791966f42d)
Kind of looks like an old roommate of mine.
His beard goes well with the red eyes.
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on August 31, 2009, 12:13:03 AM
Quote from: Jaron on August 30, 2009, 03:25:50 PM
Were I King Magnus, or Papa Hoiby or whoever rules that frigid paradise, the Congo would be in such a state as to make the Belgian days seem like song and dance. .
so it'd be like today where almost everyone is dirt-poor, nothing works and half the country is embroiled in a decades-long insurgency/great war that has claimed the lives of millions.
Better these people die by their brothers hands than at the hands of white imperialism, yes.