Its weird, I first came here in freshman year of high school. I'll be heading off to a tinyguts town (and the Kentucky border, caliga) for college this week.
I'll major in history, and go to law school afterwords. My schedule, still tenative, is
marksmanship
intermediate german
latin american history
world civilisations II (what a dinky class)
british literary tradition
A schedule conflict by 15 minutes conspired to keep me out of antebellum history, but that and civil war/reconstruction classes, as well as the other juicy history classes, can only avoid me so long. I start out at the rock bottom in terms of history, but i'll work my way up to things that are relevent. I am thinking about taking constitutional law and christian scripture as well.
Aaah, college!
marksmanship? :huh:
Quote from: Tamas on August 23, 2009, 11:01:59 AM
marksmanship? :huh:
In Hungary the class is listed as "Gypsy Hunting"
History is a poor choice for law school, IMO.
History is a poor choice for any career except one that has short sleeved button shirts and the saying "would you like fries with that?"
I am aware that history cannot pay bills. However, law really needs no particular path. Business, english or philosophy, probably in that order, would al lbe better candidates than prelaw to go to law school.
I grew up in a law office, though, and slept on a wood floor answering phone calls rather than have a normal home. I have dealt with court extensively, and feel fine regarding law school. I have no anxieties about being a sufficient lawyer.
Tamas: Marksmanship is just a generic easy class to ward off against bad grades. Next semester, it will be archery.
No VMI or Citadel? You are a disgrace to your Southern ancestry.
Quote from: Faeelin on August 23, 2009, 11:20:44 AM
History is a poor choice for law school, IMO.
With hindsight, I wish I had studied history as my undergrad instead of geology.
Quote from: PDH on August 23, 2009, 11:22:57 AM
History is a poor choice for any career except one that has short sleeved button shirts and the saying "would you like fries with that?"
Barnes and Nobles always needs clerks.
Law school is a poor choice if one wishes to preserve one's eternal soul :huh:
BB, you took geology? In that instance, I am even less worried about taking history.
I initially viewed it as a selfish decision, as I love history but it does not necesarily pay bills, but I am not too worried. In senior year i'll dabble in a few law oriented classes regardless.
Law schools see your entire transcript, BTW, not just the GPA. I don't know how they'd feel about taking a series of classes on archery and marksmanship if the rest of your GPA is weak.
Quote from: Faeelin on August 23, 2009, 12:10:44 PM
Law schools see your entire transcript, BTW, not just the GPA. I don't know how they'd feel about taking a series of classes on archery and marksmanship if the rest of your GPA is weak.
Some colleges require a number of PE courses, so I doubt the Law School would say much.
If you need nothing special to study law under the American system then surely history is a good choice?
Its easy so you'll get decent grades and they certainly do count with law school.
And I second- marksmanship, wtf?
Quote from: Lettow77 on August 23, 2009, 12:09:48 PM
BB, you took geology? In that instance, I am even less worried about taking history.
I initially viewed it as a selfish decision, as I love history but it does not necesarily pay bills, but I am not too worried. In senior year i'll dabble in a few law oriented classes regardless.
Well, Faeelin is right to question it though.
Ideally you want something that will tie in and help you in the practice of law, and something that shows some academic rigour. Business undergrads can be helpful for lawschool. Many science programs can be helpful (sadly, geology not so much).
Depending on the law school they will look at what kind of courses you took, and not just your GPA. So you want to take courses that show you are a serious student, and not just studying basket-weaving.
I said that
with hindsight I wish I'd taken history, because my geology has been of no use to me so I wish I'd studied something that I found more interesting. That doesn't mean that history would be a good undergrad for law school.
Lettuce, where are you going... U of the Cumberlands?
UT Martin, rather.
Marksmanship really isnt a big deal. My overall GPA will be fine, but a little padding is perfectly acceptable, and I -do- need some sort of activity class here and there. As far as activities go, the ones where I shoot stuff are my clear personal favourites, so thats why archery and marksmanship. A citizen has a responsibility to acquit himself well with firearms.
I understand and previously held y'alls concerns about law school, but its really no problem. My classes will suit me well for law school, as I intend to take classes on constitutional law, rhetoric and the like, but I am not going to go to higher education and neglect history, which is my driving passion.
Edit: I am minoring in business, anyhow. Political science/history/business is a good template for law, I feel.
Quote from: Lettow77 on August 23, 2009, 12:09:48 PM
BB, you took geology? In that instance, I am even less worried about taking history.
I initially viewed it as a selfish decision, as I love history but it does not necesarily pay bills, but I am not too worried. In senior year i'll dabble in a few law oriented classes regardless.
You should be worried that your wackjob historical opinions will get you into some controversy and blackballed from any law school diligent enough to do a google search or read professor recommendations.
As far as padding the GPA goes, when you apply to law school, you have to submit your transcript to the LSADS. The LSADS re-calculates your GPA according to its standards, which means, among other things, that BS classes are removed from your overall average.
If my father can get into law school with his political opinions, I can too.
And if they wont accept me, I wouldent want to go.
But I think you underestimate the degree of acceptance confederate nutjobs get around here.
^_^ Lettuce will be fine, people.
Quote from: Barrister on August 23, 2009, 11:58:23 AMWith hindsight, I wish I had studied history as my undergrad instead of geology.
Hilariously, I occasionally wish I had studied geology instead of history! :lol:
Quote from: Lettow77 on August 23, 2009, 02:43:19 PM
If my father can get into law scohol with his political opinions, I can too.
And if they wont accept me, I wouldent want to go.
But I think you underestimate the degree of acceptance confederate nutjobs get around here.
How is your father's law practice going?
Thank you for the acceptance, caliga :)
Maybe we should visit sometime! I'd bring you some gift or another.
:D You remind me of me when I was your age, young man. I even had a love affair with the Confederacy going on (including a big stars and bars hanging in my room). I still love the South, obviously, but have turned my Confederacy-sympathy into a broader love of the Civil War.
Also, I now think Tennessee might be my favorite Southern state after Kentucky. It used to be Georgia but Atlanta has changed considerably since I was a kid, and entirely for the worse.
Anyway, as for a meetup... given where you'll be going to school, I've been planning for a while to visit Kentucky and Reelfoot Lakes and it looks like you'll be right by there. No concrete date yet but it'll probably happen in the next year or so.
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Quote from: Faeelin on August 23, 2009, 11:20:44 AM
History is a poor choice for law school, IMO.
Meh. I did Computer Science, and it hasn't hurt anything.
Quote from: Caliga on August 23, 2009, 02:43:22 PM
^_^ Lettuce will be fine, people.
:yes:
Of course he will. It's college. If you can't be extreme in college than where can you?!?
Quote from: Caliga on August 23, 2009, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 23, 2009, 11:58:23 AMWith hindsight, I wish I had studied history as my undergrad instead of geology.
Hilariously, I occasionally wish I had studied geology instead of history! :lol:
Why? :huh:
I found intro geology to be really interesting. It's really just a really big history class - the history of the earth. But it was the 2nd and 3rd year classes that nearly killed me, spending hours staring down a microscope at mineral samples. Optical Mineralogy FTL. :(
Marksmanship isn't that ridiculous, I had gone to school at a university in West Virginia that offered Water polo and basket weaving as courses.
Quote from: Barrister on August 23, 2009, 03:40:47 PMWhy? :huh:
I found intro geology to be really interesting. It's really just a really big history class - the history of the earth. But it was the 2nd and 3rd year classes that nearly killed me, spending hours staring down a microscope at mineral samples. Optical Mineralogy FTL. :(
Because I took a couple of geology electives, all with the same professor, who I got to know fairly well and who was doing fascinating work studying the ice sheets in Antarctica. His name is Dave Marchant and I think he's a well-known global warming guy. He always took a bunch of his students (including undergrads) with him to Amundsen-Scott Station every year.
I know that sounds like a silly reason but hey, there you go.
Quote from: Caliga on August 23, 2009, 07:39:40 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 23, 2009, 03:40:47 PMWhy? :huh:
I found intro geology to be really interesting. It's really just a really big history class - the history of the earth. But it was the 2nd and 3rd year classes that nearly killed me, spending hours staring down a microscope at mineral samples. Optical Mineralogy FTL. :(
Because I took a couple of geology electives, all with the same professor, who I got to know fairly well and who was doing fascinating work studying the ice sheets in Antarctica. His name is Dave Marchant and I think he's a well-known global warming guy. He always took a bunch of his students (including undergrads) with him to Amundsen-Scott Station every year.
I know that sounds like a silly reason but hey, there you go.
Well, okay.
But the serious study of geology involves a lot of deep study of rocks and minerals. I remember the "black rock and white rock" test, where you were given about 10 white rocks in a row and had to identify them, followed by 10 black rocks.
:bleeding:
I am terrible at rote memorization, and that stuff killed me. I'm great with concepts and understanding, but ask me the chemical composition of galena? No way.
(Galena is actually easy and I do remember it even now - everything else was hard)
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 23, 2009, 11:59:48 AM
Quote from: PDH on August 23, 2009, 11:22:57 AM
History is a poor choice for any career except one that has short sleeved button shirts and the saying "would you like fries with that?"
Barnes and Nobles always needs clerks.
:w00t:
I have a degree in history and worked at a Borders! I've lived up to my potential at last!! :yeah:
Quote from: callmeclemens on August 23, 2009, 04:40:18 PM
Marksmanship isn't that ridiculous, I had gone to school at a university in West Virginia that offered Water polo and basket weaving as courses.
I think most schools offer basket weaving or the like (gotta keep the football players academically eligible somehow) but water polo? What school was that? I mean, I can see it as an extracurricular activiity, but as a course?
Hey I am going to college this year to.
My classes:
Intro to Electrical Engineering
Working full time
This is going to be a long degree :P
Marksmanship sounds like a fun Physical Education elective to me.
Quote from: Strix on August 23, 2009, 03:32:30 PM
:yes:
Of course he will. It's college. If you can't be extreme in college than where can you?!?
No kidding. If I was Lettow's TA or prof I would be happy he was at least knowledgable and interested in the material.
I once considered taking Chinese language as an elective when I was in university in Canada. Until I heard that the prof made life 10x hard for native Chinese speakers.
Quote from: Valmy on August 23, 2009, 11:08:34 PM
Marksmanship sounds like a fun Physical Education elective to me.
Most schools require you to take a number of electives outside of your major/minor. My advice is to take the ones you find interesting, since by defination, they aren't courses that are supposed to be relevant to your field(s).
Quote from: Monoriu on August 23, 2009, 11:25:45 PM
I once considered taking Chinese language as an elective when I was in university in Canada. Until I heard that the prof made life 10x hard for native Chinese speakers.
Maybe I should have tried for English as a Second Language.
Quote from: merithyn on August 23, 2009, 10:06:12 PM
I have a degree in history and worked at a Borders! I've lived up to my potential at last!! :yeah:
Damn I have a degree in history and I never worked at any book stores :(
Quote from: Strix on August 23, 2009, 03:32:30 PM
Of course he will. It's college. If you can't be extreme in college than where can you?!?
In your dreams.
Quote from: Valmy on August 23, 2009, 11:46:39 PM
Quote from: merithyn on August 23, 2009, 10:06:12 PM
I have a degree in history and worked at a Borders! I've lived up to my potential at last!! :yeah:
Damn I have a degree in history and I never worked at any book stores :(
I have an English degree and worked in a book store. :yeah:
... I've never worked retail.
Valmy, how intro is the class? Basic V = I*R stuff or more advanced?
Quote from: Valmy on August 23, 2009, 11:09:56 PM
No kidding. If I was Lettow's TA or prof I would be happy he was at least knowledgable and interested in the material.
Oh God, no.
Fanbois are the worst...
Quote from: Valmy on August 23, 2009, 11:08:34 PM
Hey I am going to college this year to.
My classes:
Intro to Electrical Engineering
Working full time
This is going to be a long degree :P
Marksmanship sounds like a fun Physical Education elective to me.
I start today at Illinois. My classes are:discrete structures, computer architecture, linear algebra, and geography of international conflicts(the last of my gen eds). Sounds like it should be a fun semester.
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 24, 2009, 06:38:46 AM
Valmy, how intro is the class? Basic V = I*R stuff or more advanced?
I think it will be both V = I*R stuff and more advanced stuff. I expect it to move pretty quickly.
Quote from: PDH on August 24, 2009, 06:57:38 AM
Oh God, no.
Fanbois are the worst...
Even worse than apathy?
Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2009, 07:48:14 AM
Quote from: PDH on August 24, 2009, 06:57:38 AM
Oh God, no.
Fanbois are the worst...
Even worse than apathy?
I'd assume so, because he'd have to read their 5,000 words of ranting why Abraham Lincoln was a tyrant.
Oh god, worse than apathy.
Apathy means crappy essays, never showing up...fanbois mean arguments in class about 300, hand raised every other sentence, inane statements, papers written on VELLUM (hand calligraphied), getting asked to be an SCA observer, conspiracy theories, wrong history, and stupid, stupid, stupid people.
...did I mention today is the 1st day of classes?
Quote from: PDH on August 24, 2009, 08:16:49 AM
...did I mention today is the 1st day of classes?
We start on Wednesday. I need to go buy my gold embossed textbooks, written with ink made from the blood of medieval saints. Because only that would explain why they are so expensive.
I get free textbooks :)
Quote from: PDH on August 24, 2009, 08:33:49 AM
I get free textbooks :)
You are being subsidized on the backs of the oppressed student majority! :angry:
I know :)
Quote from: PDH on August 24, 2009, 08:16:49 AM
Oh god, worse than apathy.
Apathy means crappy essays, never showing up...fanbois mean arguments in class about 300, hand raised every other sentence, inane statements, papers written on VELLUM (hand calligraphied), getting asked to be an SCA observer, conspiracy theories, wrong history, and stupid, stupid, stupid people.
...did I mention today is the 1st day of classes?
on Peedy's RatemyProfessor page:
DUDE IS HARD MAN! UNWILLING TO TALK ABOUT HOW BAD ASS LEONIDAS WAS. DO NOT TAKE!!
I am more fervent than the others, its true, but the general opinion of the populace and professors alike at martin is pro-confederate.
I checked with my professor beforehand :)
Quote from: Lettow77 on August 24, 2009, 11:45:33 AM
I am more fervent than the others, its true, but the general opinion of the populace and professors alike at martin is pro-confederate.
I checked with my professor beforehand :)
Great anti-American traitors being fed inflamatory propaganda.
Sounds like a University alright.
No such thing as a British literary tradition <_< :P
What's your reading list? :)
I havent looked yet, although I anticipate enjoying the class. I'll let you know- I expect to know by friday.
Quote from: saskganesh on August 24, 2009, 06:30:22 AM
... I've never worked retail.
Standing outside the 7-11 pitchin dimebags = retail
I wish I'd taken biology instead of history.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 24, 2009, 12:13:38 PM
I wish I'd taken biology instead of history.
Bio fucking rocked. :cthulu:
I took marksmanship in college as a PE elective. It turned out to be good preparation for living in Detroit. :)
Quote from: Valmy on August 23, 2009, 11:08:34 PM
Hey I am going to college this year to.
My classes:
Intro to Electrical Engineering
Working full time
This is going to be a long degree :P
Marksmanship sounds like a fun Physical Education elective to me.
Best of luck. :)
What made you decide to go back to school for a EE degree?
Quote from: Savonarola on August 24, 2009, 12:46:00 PM
Best of luck. :)
What made you decide to go back to school for a EE degree?
I decided I wanted to work in the Energy industry and I found what they really needed was more EEs, that and my office is just next door to the EE building.
Oh and I was inspired by the brilliance of the Engineers on Languish.
Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2009, 12:54:23 PM
I decided I wanted to work in the Energy industry and I found what they really needed was more EEs, that and my office is just next door to the EE building.
Oh and I was inspired by the brilliance of the Engineers on Languish.
:lol:
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It's a good opportunity to network and their magazine, The Spectrum, has articles on different areas of electrical engineering. That might help you focus on an area or a career that you would be interested in.
Quote from: dps on August 23, 2009, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: callmeclemens on August 23, 2009, 04:40:18 PM
Marksmanship isn't that ridiculous, I had gone to school at a university in West Virginia that offered Water polo and basket weaving as courses.
I think most schools offer basket weaving or the like (gotta keep the football players academically eligible somehow) but water polo? What school was that? I mean, I can see it as an extracurricular activiity, but as a course?
Concord University
Quote from: callmeclemens on August 24, 2009, 04:23:56 PM
Quote from: dps on August 23, 2009, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: callmeclemens on August 23, 2009, 04:40:18 PM
Marksmanship isn't that ridiculous, I had gone to school at a university in West Virginia that offered Water polo and basket weaving as courses.
I think most schools offer basket weaving or the like (gotta keep the football players academically eligible somehow) but water polo? What school was that? I mean, I can see it as an extracurricular activiity, but as a course?
Concord University
Are you actually from WV, or did you just go to school there?
There was a Confederate Flag (not the battle flag, but rather the Stars and Bars) flying at the Confederate cemetery at Franklin. :cool:
Quote from: dps on August 24, 2009, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: callmeclemens on August 24, 2009, 04:23:56 PM
Quote from: dps on August 23, 2009, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: callmeclemens on August 23, 2009, 04:40:18 PM
Marksmanship isn't that ridiculous, I had gone to school at a university in West Virginia that offered Water polo and basket weaving as courses.
I think most schools offer basket weaving or the like (gotta keep the football players academically eligible somehow) but water polo? What school was that? I mean, I can see it as an extracurricular activiity, but as a course?
Concord University
Are you actually from WV, or did you just go to school there?
Just went there
Quote from: Caliga on August 24, 2009, 04:35:57 PM
There was a Confederate Flag (not the battle flag, but rather the Stars and Bars) flying at the Confederate cemetery at Franklin. :cool:
John Bell Hood rocks.
at killing his own men.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 24, 2009, 04:37:02 PM
John Bell Hood rocks.
at killing his own men.
That battlefield made me angry.
One of the greatest Union victories of the war, and very little of it is preserved. Guess what stands on the site of Pat Cleburne's death? A FUCKING PIZZA HUT.
"Yes, I'll have my deep dish pizza with peppers, onions, mushrooms, and the blood of an Irishman." :mad:
Quote from: Caliga on August 24, 2009, 04:42:26 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 24, 2009, 04:37:02 PM
John Bell Hood rocks.
at killing his own men.
That battlefield made me angry.
One of the greatest Union victories of the war, and very little of it is preserved. Guess what stands on the site of Pat Cleburne's death? A FUCKING PIZZA HUT.
"Yes, I'll have my deep dish pizza with peppers, onions, mushrooms, and the blood of an Irishman." :mad:
I'd have thought you of all people would have been moved by such a memorial. ;)
If it was a BBQ joint maybe :mmm:
Anyway, this photo is for Lettuce:
And this photo is for everyone else :menace: :
Quote from: Caliga on August 24, 2009, 04:42:26 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 24, 2009, 04:37:02 PM
John Bell Hood rocks.
at killing his own men.
That battlefield made me angry.
One of the greatest Union victories of the war, and very little of it is preserved. Guess what stands on the site of Pat Cleburne's death? A FUCKING PIZZA HUT.
"Yes, I'll have my deep dish pizza with peppers, onions, mushrooms, and the blood of an Irishman." :mad:
A good Irishman too. Erin go Bragh.
Quote from: Caliga on August 24, 2009, 04:59:47 PM
Anyway, this photo is for Lettuce:
That is the only proper Confederate flag. The Andrew's Cross one just carries too many racist overtones.
Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2009, 05:54:42 PM
Quote from: Caliga on August 24, 2009, 04:59:47 PM
Anyway, this photo is for Lettuce:
That is the only proper Confederate flag. The Andrew's Cross one just carries too many racist overtones.
Eh, forget racism--they're both symbols of treason.
What it stood for is in no way subverted by what people -think- it stands for.
Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2009, 05:54:42 PM
That is the only proper Confederate flag.
:)
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