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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: Berkut on August 10, 2009, 03:16:08 PM

Title: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: Berkut on August 10, 2009, 03:16:08 PM
Another rules oddity. Well, not really an oddity, but an odd play.

We have all heard that the ground cannot cause a fumble. Can anyone tell us when that is actually not the case?

I got this one wrong myself, in that I could not come up with an example.
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 10, 2009, 03:17:12 PM
When it's a beehive or canister round.  HEAT and AP can not cause a fumble.

Fucker changed it too quick. :mad:
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: The Brain on August 10, 2009, 03:17:27 PM
Don't get me started on this.
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: MadImmortalMan on August 10, 2009, 03:20:26 PM
Something to do with a backward pass or a lateral I should think.
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 10, 2009, 03:20:45 PM
When there's an earthquake.
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: MadImmortalMan on August 10, 2009, 03:27:28 PM
Wait. If it's NFL, it requires opponent contact to down the ball, so if the carrier trips and nobody touches him, that could be a ground-caused fumble. I dunno about college though. Can't think of anything.
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 10, 2009, 03:29:33 PM
Refs are considered part of the field of play.  Run into a ref, fumble, ground caused a fumble.
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: Barrister on August 10, 2009, 03:30:50 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 10, 2009, 03:29:33 PM
Refs are considered part of the field of play.  Run into a ref, fumble, ground caused a fumble.

That's what I'm thinking.  That, or the field goal posts.
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: Berkut on August 10, 2009, 03:31:42 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 10, 2009, 03:17:27 PM
Don't get me started on this.

Razorbacks fan?
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: Berkut on August 10, 2009, 03:32:10 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 10, 2009, 03:27:28 PM
Wait. If it's NFL, it requires opponent contact to down the ball, so if the carrier trips and nobody touches him, that could be a ground-caused fumble. I dunno about college though. Can't think of anything.

Good point - lets exclude the NFL.
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: Berkut on August 10, 2009, 03:34:25 PM
Here is the play in question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_U6yNYEAQo
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: HVC on August 10, 2009, 03:38:27 PM
The guy who hold the ball for field goals.
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on August 10, 2009, 03:42:13 PM
Quote from: Berkut on August 10, 2009, 03:34:25 PM
Here is the play in question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_U6yNYEAQo

:lol:
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: The Brain on August 10, 2009, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: Berkut on August 10, 2009, 03:31:42 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 10, 2009, 03:17:27 PM
Don't get me started on this.

Razorbacks fan?

Ayup.
Title: Re: When CAN the ground cause a fumble???
Post by: CountDeMoney on August 10, 2009, 05:01:21 PM
Quote from: Berkut on August 10, 2009, 03:16:08 PM
Can anyone tell us when that is actually not the case?

Whenever the refs decide to invent their own rules, but only with plays involving Pittsburgh Steelers.