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When CAN the ground cause a fumble???

Started by Berkut, August 10, 2009, 03:16:08 PM

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Berkut

Another rules oddity. Well, not really an oddity, but an odd play.

We have all heard that the ground cannot cause a fumble. Can anyone tell us when that is actually not the case?

I got this one wrong myself, in that I could not come up with an example.
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Admiral Yi

When it's a beehive or canister round.  HEAT and AP can not cause a fumble.

Fucker changed it too quick. :mad:

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MadImmortalMan

Something to do with a backward pass or a lateral I should think.
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MadImmortalMan

Wait. If it's NFL, it requires opponent contact to down the ball, so if the carrier trips and nobody touches him, that could be a ground-caused fumble. I dunno about college though. Can't think of anything.
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Admiral Yi

Refs are considered part of the field of play.  Run into a ref, fumble, ground caused a fumble.

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 10, 2009, 03:29:33 PM
Refs are considered part of the field of play.  Run into a ref, fumble, ground caused a fumble.

That's what I'm thinking.  That, or the field goal posts.
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Berkut

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Berkut

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on August 10, 2009, 03:27:28 PM
Wait. If it's NFL, it requires opponent contact to down the ball, so if the carrier trips and nobody touches him, that could be a ground-caused fumble. I dunno about college though. Can't think of anything.

Good point - lets exclude the NFL.
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Quote from: Berkut on August 10, 2009, 03:16:08 PM
Can anyone tell us when that is actually not the case?

Whenever the refs decide to invent their own rules, but only with plays involving Pittsburgh Steelers.