Poll
Question:
Who do you like better?
Option 1: Barack Obama
votes: 15
Option 2: Joe Biden
votes: 9
Option 3: I love them both equally.
votes: 1
Option 4: I hate them both equally.
votes: 8
Option 5: I don't put Jaron options in my polls.
votes: 10
Vote PLZ.
I love them both equally and I hate them both equally are pretty much the same option for me. ^_^
I guess better wording would have been "I love them both with 10 hearts out of 10" and "I hate them both with 0 hearts out of 10" or something.
I like Obama better.
How about a "I don't really like either of them but don't hate them either."? :o
Obama.
I don't like nor hate them. They are politicians whom I expected very little from. And I haven't been disappointed yet.
Quote from: garbon on July 31, 2009, 01:05:13 PM
How about a "I don't really like either of them but don't hate them either."? :o
On Languish, we don't do "moderate stances", son. :mad:
Quote from: Caliga on July 31, 2009, 01:13:29 PM
On Languish, we don't do "moderate stances", son. :mad:
I picked the non-Jaron, Jaron option.
Biden, his experience as a British Labour MP sets him apart from the typical American politician.
Dislike them both, Obama more.
Quote from: garbon on July 31, 2009, 01:02:18 PM
I love them both equally and I hate them both equally are pretty much the same option for me. ^_^
That's pretty much the way I feel. I don't care for either man's position on most issues, but I don't have any personal dislike for them as people.
However, Biden is more entertaining, 'cause he's more likely to put his foot in his mouth, so I voted that I like Biden better.
Obama. :)
However, I must state that I'm no longer in the "obama '08, Obama '12', Obama FOREVER' camp.
Tim Ortiz is better than either.
Quote from: Neil on July 31, 2009, 06:53:30 PM
Tim Ortiz is better than either.
That's a filthy lie!
It's funny, near where I work there's a subway station and there's always a few people with Obama=Hitler signs. They have a table and litterature about how Obama is nothing but a puppet of the vast Zionist conspiracy.
Anyhow I chose Obama the sacrifitial lamb. ^_^
G.
I vote to force a Jaron option. Chavez and his "pres-for-life" antics suck, but so does our system of expecting a figurehead to get the hang of managing an overly complex nation in four years. I'll let you use that to figure for yourselves how much I think of performance opinions less than a year into the job.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 31, 2009, 10:52:46 PM
I vote to force a Jaron option. Chavez and his "pres-for-life" antics suck, but so does our system of expecting a figurehead to get the hang of managing an overly complex nation in four years. I'll let you use that to figure for yourselves how much I think of performance opinions less than a year into the job.
I think you're greatly underestimating the amount of power the President wields.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 31, 2009, 11:26:26 PM
I think you're greatly underestimating the amount of power the President wields.
And the amount of time someone nominally devotes to figuring out what they would do as president once elected. Obama certainly suffers from the fact that his presidency is vastly different from what he expected, but that is another thing that can be counted against him, when all is said and done. FDR had the same problem, as did Lincoln.
The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise -- with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country.
Fellow-citizens, we cannot escape history. We of this Congress and this administration, will be remembered in spite of ourselves. No personal significance, or insignificance, can spare one or another of us. The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the latest generation.
We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 31, 2009, 11:26:26 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 31, 2009, 10:52:46 PM
I vote to force a Jaron option. Chavez and his "pres-for-life" antics suck, but so does our system of expecting a figurehead to get the hang of managing an overly complex nation in four years. I'll let you use that to figure for yourselves how much I think of performance opinions less than a year into the job.
I think you're greatly underestimating the amount of power the President wields.
It's ussually measured in terawatts.
Quote from: grumbler on August 01, 2009, 12:07:20 AM
The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise -- with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country.
Fellow-citizens, we cannot escape history. We of this Congress and this administration, will be remembered in spite of ourselves. No personal significance, or insignificance, can spare one or another of us. The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the latest generation.
We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
Alas, political writing with that level of quality no longer exists.
Lincoln must have known that he had a fight coming once he got elected. He might not have appreciated the scale, or the number of seperatist states, but he had to figure he'd have to coerce someone.
Quote from: Neil on August 01, 2009, 06:37:20 AM
Lincoln must have known that he had a fight coming once he got elected. He might not have appreciated the scale, or the number of seperatist states, but he had to figure he'd have to coerce someone.
He didn't really appreciate how many Southerns supported and would fight for the secessionist state governments. He famously said that he doubted there was a secessionist majority in any state with the possible exception of South Carolina.
You assclowns and your ACW hijacks.