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Title: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Valmy on January 02, 2026, 10:54:43 PM
Iran seems like it is really going to shit.

A water crisis in Tehran and a general economic collapse.

Granted everybody seems to be going downhill at the same time in a global race to the bottom but things seem especially bad there.

So it doesn't surprise me they are having some unrest.
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Sheilbh on January 03, 2026, 12:24:02 AM
There's been an interesting piece on the BBC basically explaining why they're not covering it much. Basically there are protests. It's very hard to verify as there's just a lot of videos verifying and a very motivated (and I think politically incompetent) emigre community which is sharing this with a high pitch of excitement and rumour (the one I saw was IRGC abandoning several cities which feels unlikely).

So the BBC were basically explaining how they're trying to report what they know is true, that it's tough but they're not going to report rumour or social media videos without it. Which makes sense and I think is the right choice (and learned through hard experience in the last few decades - not least recently in Gaza) but basically leaves them just saying protests are happening.

Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Tamas on January 03, 2026, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 03, 2026, 12:24:02 AMThere's been an interesting piece on the BBC basically explaining why they're not covering it much. Basically there are protests. It's very hard to verify as there's just a lot of videos verifying and a very motivated (and I think politically incompetent) emigre community which is sharing this with a high pitch of excitement and rumour (the one I saw was IRGC abandoning several cities which feels unlikely).

So the BBC were basically explaining how they're trying to report what they know is true, that it's tough but they're not going to report rumour or social media videos without it. Which makes sense and I think is the right choice (and learned through hard experience in the last few decades - not least recently in Gaza) but basically leaves them just saying protests are happening.



Yeah I have nothing to base this on but the vibe feels like when in Hungary a thousand angry college kids would tussle with riot police for an hour with 5 thousand people watching the live feed hoping it would escalate to regime change.
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Razgovory on January 03, 2026, 02:18:12 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 03, 2026, 12:24:02 AMThere's been an interesting piece on the BBC basically explaining why they're not covering it much. Basically there are protests. It's very hard to verify as there's just a lot of videos verifying and a very motivated (and I think politically incompetent) emigre community which is sharing this with a high pitch of excitement and rumour (the one I saw was IRGC abandoning several cities which feels unlikely).

So the BBC were basically explaining how they're trying to report what they know is true, that it's tough but they're not going to report rumour or social media videos without it. Which makes sense and I think is the right choice (and learned through hard experience in the last few decades - not least recently in Gaza) but basically leaves them just saying protests are happening.



Maybe they should send someone over there?
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Valmy on January 05, 2026, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 03, 2026, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 03, 2026, 12:24:02 AMThere's been an interesting piece on the BBC basically explaining why they're not covering it much. Basically there are protests. It's very hard to verify as there's just a lot of videos verifying and a very motivated (and I think politically incompetent) emigre community which is sharing this with a high pitch of excitement and rumour (the one I saw was IRGC abandoning several cities which feels unlikely).

So the BBC were basically explaining how they're trying to report what they know is true, that it's tough but they're not going to report rumour or social media videos without it. Which makes sense and I think is the right choice (and learned through hard experience in the last few decades - not least recently in Gaza) but basically leaves them just saying protests are happening.



Yeah I have nothing to base this on but the vibe feels like when in Hungary a thousand angry college kids would tussle with riot police for an hour with 5 thousand people watching the live feed hoping it would escalate to regime change.

I don't know. This one seems big.

We'll see.
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Tamas on January 06, 2026, 01:59:16 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 05, 2026, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 03, 2026, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 03, 2026, 12:24:02 AMThere's been an interesting piece on the BBC basically explaining why they're not covering it much. Basically there are protests. It's very hard to verify as there's just a lot of videos verifying and a very motivated (and I think politically incompetent) emigre community which is sharing this with a high pitch of excitement and rumour (the one I saw was IRGC abandoning several cities which feels unlikely).

So the BBC were basically explaining how they're trying to report what they know is true, that it's tough but they're not going to report rumour or social media videos without it. Which makes sense and I think is the right choice (and learned through hard experience in the last few decades - not least recently in Gaza) but basically leaves them just saying protests are happening.



Yeah I have nothing to base this on but the vibe feels like when in Hungary a thousand angry college kids would tussle with riot police for an hour with 5 thousand people watching the live feed hoping it would escalate to regime change.

I don't know. This one seems big.

We'll see.

Yeah it seems to be escalating.
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Sheilbh on January 06, 2026, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 06, 2026, 01:59:16 PMYeah it seems to be escalating.
Imagine the US and Trump if they get rid of Maduro and Iran collapses, on top of things like the hugely effective Israeli operations against Hezbollah and the collapse of Assad.
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Josquius on January 08, 2026, 04:20:01 PM
Maybe time to split this stuff out into a thread?

Thought of making one with my original post on it but there was just zero reporting from legit sources :lol:

Go Persians go.
The shah is being very vocal about it all. Odds of a restoration?
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: HVC on January 08, 2026, 04:32:33 PM
America stomping around Latin America, revolution in Iran, the 70s are back baby.
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Sheilbh on January 08, 2026, 04:52:27 PM
Quote from: HVC on January 08, 2026, 04:32:33 PMAmerica stomping around Latin America, revolution in Iran, the 70s are back baby.
Energy crises, Middle Eastern wars, inflation, a post-war order falling apart, a superpower shuddering on with an elite of corrupt gerontocrats, left wing terrorism in Germany.
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on January 08, 2026, 05:03:23 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 08, 2026, 04:52:27 PM
Quote from: HVC on January 08, 2026, 04:32:33 PMAmerica stomping around Latin America, revolution in Iran, the 70s are back baby.
Energy crises, Middle Eastern wars, inflation, a post-war order falling apart, a superpower shuddering on with an elite of corrupt gerontocrats, left wing terrorism in Germany.

We didn't start the fire!
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I thought you were singing it
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Grey Fox on January 08, 2026, 05:16:43 PM
Trump's Playboy's essay remains undefeated.
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Valmy on January 08, 2026, 11:58:15 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 08, 2026, 04:11:09 PMOk I definitely was wrong about Iran earlier:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/08/iran-plunged-into-internet-blackout-as-protests-over-economy-spread-nationwide

I understand not wanting to get your hopes up after 2022 but the situation is just much worse for Iran now.
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Razgovory on January 09, 2026, 12:50:07 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 06, 2026, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 06, 2026, 01:59:16 PMYeah it seems to be escalating.
Imagine the US and Trump if they get rid of Maduro and Iran collapses, on top of things like the hugely effective Israeli operations against Hezbollah and the collapse of Assad.

That is a huge fucking trophy on Netanyahu's mantle.
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Valmy on January 09, 2026, 12:52:27 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 06, 2026, 02:27:33 PM
Quote from: Tamas on January 06, 2026, 01:59:16 PMYeah it seems to be escalating.
Imagine the US and Trump if they get rid of Maduro and Iran collapses, on top of things like the hugely effective Israeli operations against Hezbollah and the collapse of Assad.

Yeah well...we'll see.

Iran was a minor annoyance at best and we will see what follows if it actually collapses. Likewise we will see what happens in Venezuela.
Title: Re: Go Persians, go!
Post by: Valmy on January 09, 2026, 12:52:53 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 12:50:07 AMThat is a huge fucking trophy on Netanyahu's mantle.

Well good for him.

Hey another reason Israel no longer needs our money.