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QuoteAt least 12 shot during cookout
Pregnant woman and girl, 2, are injured in nonfatal East Baltimore attack
A pregnant woman and 2-year-old girl were among at least 12 people wounded Sunday night when one or more gunmen opened fire with a semiautomatic weapon at a backyard cookout in East Baltimore, said a city police spokesman.
Police said they didn't know of a motive in the shootings, and no arrests were made immediately.
Police spokesman Agent Donny Moses said there were no life-threatening injuries in the shootings, which occurred shortly before 9 p.m. in the 2600 block of Ashland Ave. in the Madison-East End community.
Moses said ambulances took some of the victims to area hospitals, while others were taken to hospitals by private vehicles. Authorities said Maryland Shock Trauma Center and the emergency rooms at Johns Hopkins Bayview Medical Center and Johns Hopkins Hospital received the wounded.
Specific conditions were not available, and the victims' names were withheld pending notification of family members. Moses said the victims were struck in their shoulders, legs and backs and that multiple 911 calls came in from area residents.
Moses said at least one gunman entered the small backyard of the rowhouse on the even side of the street during the cookout and opened fire with a semi-automatic weapon of unknown caliber, hitting at least a dozen victims before fleeing on foot. It was not known whether a car was used to escape, Moses said.
"There are lots of shell casings," Moses said. He said detectives from the Eastern District were interviewing victims at hospitals and local residents. The number of people attending the cook-out was unclear.
Except for the pregnant woman, 23, and the girl, the gender of the victims was not known last night.
Police Commissioner Frederick H. Bealefeld III was among the officers who reported to the scene. He had no comment last night when approached by a reporter. Moses said the commissioner responded moments after the shootings were reported to make sure the investigation was coordinated and that extra officers from at least one other police district assisted in the investigation.
What's wrong with America?
GOD DAMN AMERICA :mad:
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Police said they didn't know of a motive in the shootings, and no arrests were made immediately.
The motive was clear. They were using gas instead of charcoal and had to be dealt with appropriately.
Quote from: Strix on July 27, 2009, 05:56:13 AM
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Police said they didn't know of a motive in the shootings, and no arrests were made immediately.
The motive was clear. They were using gas instead of charcoal and had to be dealt with appropriately.
Perfectly justified then. :yes:
Charcoal :punk:
That is some seriously incompetent shooting right there. How do you wound 12 people and not manage to kill any of them?
Quote from: Berkut on July 27, 2009, 07:55:38 AM
That is some seriously incompetent shooting right there. How do you wound 12 people and not manage to kill any of them?
Holding the gun sideways probably helps.
Quote from: ulmont on July 27, 2009, 08:05:23 AM
Quote from: Berkut on July 27, 2009, 07:55:38 AM
That is some seriously incompetent shooting right there. How do you wound 12 people and not manage to kill any of them?
Holding the gun sideways probably helps.
lol
Shit looks cool man!
Why would anyone use charcoal?
Quote from: The Brain on July 27, 2009, 04:34:57 AM
What's wrong with America?
yeah, I mean wtf??? A 2 year old who doesn't know how to use a gun to defend her family! Where are american values going :(
Quote from: Neil on July 27, 2009, 08:40:54 AM
Why would anyone use charcoal?
I agree. Damn savages, turning their back on the miracle that is propane.
BB = Hank Hill :)
Quote from: Barrister on July 27, 2009, 11:08:00 AM
I agree. Damn savages, turning their back on the miracle that is propane.
I just bought a new propane grill. I am glad somebody on this board can appreciate the glory of that.
Yahoo! Grilled food that tastes like nothing! :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on July 27, 2009, 12:36:33 PM
Yahoo! Grilled food that tastes like nothing! :cool:
Some of us haven't destroyed our taste buds with gas station food.
One day when you visit Kentucky I shall take you to the Elk Creek Grocery & Restaurant, which is attached to the Marathon gas station, and you shall be: converted. :pope:
Recently Elmar's BP has had a fall from grace in my eyes and SHALL BE SHUNNED PENNSYLVANIA-DUTCH STYLE until further notice.
Quote from: Caliga on July 27, 2009, 12:36:33 PM
Yahoo! Grilled food that tastes like nothing! :cool:
:huh:
It's grilled food that tastes like whatever kind of food it is.
As nice as propane is though, I do miss my natural gas hookup stove from back in Alberta. No charcoal, no propane tanks, just a never-ending ability to grill. :alberta:
The magic of fire grilling is that you get to have food that not only tastes like the food, but also has a smoky and woody flavor (assuming you use a partial wood fire, which I usually do). I shouldn't have said it tastes like nothing, though... wasn't exactly what I meant.
Quote from: Caliga on July 27, 2009, 02:22:23 PM
The magic of fire grilling is that you get to have food that not only tastes like the food, but also has a smoky and woody flavor (assuming you use a partial wood fire, which I usually do). I shouldn't have said it tastes like nothing, though... wasn't exactly what I meant.
I am sure there is a better snobby way to cook everything perfectly...but I am a novice without much time to blow grilling so I will stick with my rather straightforward 'turn gas on, light it, grill' technique. :P
Quote from: Caliga on July 27, 2009, 12:46:03 PM
One day when you visit Kentucky I shall take you to the Elk Creek Grocery & Restaurant, which is attached to the Marathon gas station, and you shall be: converted. :pope:
Recently Elmar's BP has had a fall from grace in my eyes and SHALL BE SHUNNED PENNSYLVANIA-DUTCH STYLE until further notice.
"You haven't eaten BBQ until you have had it grilled over a genuine gasoline-and-burning-tire fire." ;)
Quote from: Valmy on July 27, 2009, 02:23:55 PM
I am sure there is a better snobby way to cook everything perfectly...but I am a novice without much time to blow grilling so I will stick with my rather straightforward 'turn gas on, light it, grill' technique. :P
I will admit to having a propane grill for time-saving reasons. :ph34r:
But I believe you saw pics of my new baby on Facebook. :wub:
You know what pisses me off about grilling these days?
You have to cook the vegetarian shit on a separate grill. They get all pissy when their Veggie shitburgers are grilled right after hot dogs. :mad:
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 27, 2009, 03:42:10 PM
You know what pisses me off about grilling these days?
You have to cook the vegetarian shit on a separate grill. They get all pissy when their Veggie shitburgers are grilled right after hot dogs. :mad:
Solution: Don't invite vegetarians.
Da scene of da crime.
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Quote from: citizen k on July 27, 2009, 05:58:20 PMInner cities suck. :(
No shit.
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Can't even afford brown mustard.
Shootings connected? Shocking!
QuoteAt least 17 people were shot and two killed in separate incidents Sunday night, including a shooting at a backyard cookout in East Baltimore that left 12 people injured. Among the victims in that shooting were a pregnant woman and a 2-year-old girl, police said.
The spate of violence, which occurred over a stretch of about three hours on the city's east side, was unprecedented in recent memory. Police said they didn't immediately know of a motive in the shootings, and no arrests were reported. Many of the victims were rushed to Johns Hopkins Hospital, which became a crime scene later in the evening when a car riddled with bullet holes pulled up to the emergency room.
According to law enforcement sources, at least two of the shooting incidents appeared to be connected. One of the victims at the cookout shooting was Steven Blackwell, 25, whose younger brothers were abducted last April in what police said was part of an escalating feud between rival drug organizations. Police sources at the time told The Baltimore Sun that the abductions may have set off a wave of as many as five retaliatory homicides over the course of three months last summer.
Sunday's cookout was to commemorate the one-year anniversary of the fatal shootings of Quinton Hogan, 23, who police believe was connected with the Blackwells, and Donell Rogers, 21. They were fatally shot July 25, 2008, shortly after Hogan appeared in District Court. Blackwell showed up to pay his respects, and was among those struck Sunday night, sources said. He received a gunshot to the forearm, the sources said.
Police Commissioner Frederick H. Bealefeld III is scheduled to give a briefing on the shootings and the department's response at 12:30 p.m. today.
The Sunday incidents began shortly before 9 p.m., when at least one gunman entered the small back yard of a rowhouse in the 2600 block of Ashland Ave., in the Madison-East End community, during the cookout and opened fire with a semi-automatic weapon of unknown caliber, hitting at least a dozen victims before fleeing on foot, according to Agent Donny Moses, a police spokesman.
Two hours later, before 11 p.m., two males, ages 18 and 19, were fatally shot in the 200 block of N. Conkling St., in the Baltimore Highlands community. At least two young men were seen being led away from the crime scene in handcuffs, as officers went door to door trying to gather information.
That shooting, as well as another reported in the 2800 block of Harford Road near Clifton Park, appeared to be unrelated to the shooting at the cookout.
But a shooting at East Baltimore and South Bond streets is believed to be connected to the cookout, as well as a vehicle riddled with bullets that pulled up at Johns Hopkins Hospital. Authorities shut down East Monument Street as detectives examined a white Lexus with at least eight bullet holes to the driver's side door and window. On the passenger side, the door was open and appeared to be mangled.
On the sidewalk outside the passenger side door was what appeared to be a sports trophy, several shirts and a sandal. Police could not immediately determine where the shooting had taken place, but said it did not occur at the hospital.
Among the 12 victims at the Ashland Avenue cookout, Moses said there were no life-threatening injuries. Moses said ambulances took some of the victims to area hospitals, while others were taken to hospitals by private vehicles.
Specific conditions were not available, and the victims' names were withheld pending notification of family members. Moses said the victims were struck in their shoulders, legs and backs and that multiple 911 calls came in from area residents.
Bealefeld was among the officers who reported to the scene. He had no comment last night when approached by a reporter. Moses said the commissioner responded moments after the shootings were reported to make sure the investigation was coordinated and that extra officers from at least one other police district assisted in the investigation.
Deputy Commissioner Anthony Barksdale and Col. John Skinner, the chief of patrol, were also observed visiting the crime scenes.
Heading into Sunday night, homicides were up about 5 percent over the same time last year. Nonfatal shootings were down significantly.
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QuoteHeading into Sunday night, homicides were up about 5 percent over the same time last year. Nonfatal shootings were down significantly.
John Hopkins must have a lot of new doctors doing their residency this year.
They weren't BBQing.
BBQ does NOT involve a grill. :mad:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 27, 2009, 05:50:00 PM
Da scene of da crime.
A curious lack of blood for a place where 12 people got shot.
Quote from: Fireblade on July 27, 2009, 09:05:17 PM
They weren't BBQing.
BBQ does NOT involve a grill. :mad:
People in the northeast don't make a distinction, in fact.
Quote from: Caliga on July 27, 2009, 09:10:59 PM
People in the northeast don't make a distinction, in fact.
Maybe it's high time to pull out the soda vs. pop map again.
Or should we wait till Angerbutt gets back?
Most people down here say 'coke' and I occasionally hear 'pop'. For some reason my mother in law says 'soft drinks', which sounds really stupid to me. I mean, yes, sodas are a type of soft drink, but it sounds weird to use that term in everyday conversation.
Philly: 'soda' is universal.
Boston: 'soda' has mostly replaced 'tonic'.
Quote from: Caliga on July 27, 2009, 09:10:59 PM
People in the northeast don't make a distinction, in fact.
Baltimore is in the North East now? Is Maryland now yankee country?
The northeast goes down as far as the Virginia suburbs of DC IMO. The only parts of Maryland that might be considered 'the south' are the Eastern Shore and the area west of Hagerstown.
Quote from: Fireblade on July 27, 2009, 09:05:17 PM
They weren't BBQing.
BBQ does NOT involve a grill. :mad:
:huh:
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Quote from: Caliga on July 27, 2009, 09:36:57 PM
The northeast goes down as far as the Virginia suburbs of DC IMO. The only parts of Maryland that might be considered 'the south' are the Eastern Shore and the area west of Hagerstown.
The damn Yankees are taking over! :w00t:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 27, 2009, 05:50:00 PM
Da scene of da crime.
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Before or after?
Quote from: Berkut on July 27, 2009, 07:55:38 AM
That is some seriously incompetent shooting right there. How do you wound 12 people and not manage to kill any of them?
That's what happens when people spray and pray.
It is really hard to kill people if you don't aim at those people individually.
Well, there is also that fire without manouver is ineffective.
Judging by the story, the guys just stood at the backyard's door and opened up on the people that were there, and then ran and broke contact. If they had manouvered by closing in with their targets, there would have been 12 dead bodies in that backyard.
Its all about tactics.
Fire without manouver is ineffective, manouver without fire is suicidal.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 27, 2009, 03:42:10 PM
You know what pisses me off about grilling these days?
You have to cook the vegetarian shit on a separate grill. They get all pissy when their Veggie shitburgers are grilled right after hot dogs. :mad:
Fuck you, bitch!
Quote from: Valmy on July 27, 2009, 09:08:16 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 27, 2009, 05:50:00 PM
Da scene of da crime.
A curious lack of blood for a place where 12 people got shot.
You have been watching too many horror movies.
Quote from: Siege on July 28, 2009, 12:55:32 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 27, 2009, 09:08:16 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 27, 2009, 05:50:00 PM
Da scene of da crime.
A curious lack of blood for a place where 12 people got shot.
You have been watching too many horror movies.
Not really horror movies, but based on crime scene photos, it seemed like not very much blood. :mellow:
Quote from: Valmy on July 27, 2009, 10:16:24 PMThe damn Yankees are taking over! :w00t:
Yes. My mother's father's family hailed from Maryland originally, and despite having left in the late 19th century my great grandparents was still VERY Southern in culture, attitude, etc. My great grandmother's only real Yankee trait was her Philadelphia accent.
Quote from: Caliga on July 27, 2009, 09:10:59 PM
Quote from: Fireblade on July 27, 2009, 09:05:17 PM
They weren't BBQing.
BBQ does NOT involve a grill. :mad:
People in the northeast don't make a distinction, in fact.
It's not so much that. BBQ in the South doesn't mean the same thing as in the North. They are two totally different things. It would be like people in the South talking about a Mustang (car) while the people in the North are talking about a Mustang (horse). They are both Mustangs but not the same.
In the North, BBQ is a sauce put on chicken, beef, pork, etc, and cooked on a grill. In the South, BBQ is it's own food group.
Dude, I know this. Remember where I live? I eat real BBQ probably once a week or so (had some great BBQ on Saturday).
Quote from: Caliga on July 28, 2009, 09:50:04 AM
Dude, I know this. Remember where I live? I eat real BBQ probably once a week or so (had some great BBQ on Saturday).
It wasn't directed at you but for our audience who doesn't know.
Quote from: Caliga on July 28, 2009, 09:50:04 AM
Remember where I live? I eat real BBQ probably once a week or so (had some great BBQ on Saturday).
Not in Texas, so you probably have shitty eastern BBQ once a week. I had real BBQ on Sunday.
Quote from: Strix on July 28, 2009, 09:53:09 AMIt wasn't directed at you but for our audience who doesn't know.
Oh. :blush:
Quote from: Valmy on July 28, 2009, 09:53:14 AM
Not in Texas, so you probably have shitty eastern BBQ once a week. I had real BBQ on Sunday.
POINT IN FACT, one of my favorite pits is called Ken-Tex BBQ and they serve up a mean brisket. :cool:
I have had barbecue in Houston and this is just as good.
Quote18 shootings stem largely from drug feud, police say
Two fatally shot, 16 wounded in shootings on day of mayhem on Baltimore's east side
By Justin Fenton and Scott Calvert
Baltimore Sun reporters
Police believe a long-running dispute between drug organizations contributed to an unprecedented eruption of violence on Baltimore's east side Sunday night that left at least 18 people shot, including two who died.
Twelve of the victims were struck at a backyard cookout that left a pregnant woman and a 2-year-old child injured, an incident that police say prompted a running gun battle between two vehicles three hours later.
Mayor Sheila Dixon called the shootings a "cowardly act" and implored the community to come forward with tips, as police directed dozens of additional officers into the eastern and southeastern districts.
"It's important from my perspective that people come forth - if not, they're going to see this happen even more, because whatever is happening is not going to stop," Dixon said at a news conference at City Hall.
Among those injured at the cookout was Steven Blackwell Jr., 25, whose younger brothers were abducted in April 2008 in what police said was part of an escalating rivalry between drug organizations. Police sources later that year told The Baltimore Sun that the abductions might have led to as many as five retaliatory homicides over three months last summer, and police vowed to crack down on the organization
Sunday's picnic, held in adjoining backyards in the 2600 block of Ashland Ave., was held in memory of Donell Rogers, and another man, Quinton Hogan, both of whom were fatally shot a year ago and who police say were connected to Blackwell. Thirty or more people, many of them women and children, converged on the home of Lakeisha Hill, Rogers' sister.
A DJ set up turntables in the dining room. Steak, burgers and chicken sizzled on the grill. Kids played with green and yellow helium-filled balloons.
But about 9 p.m., at least one gunman appeared and began spraying bullets from a semiautomatic weapon, turning the festive scene into a battle zone. Police believe the attack might have been an attempted hit on Blackwell, who was shot in the forearm.
Police Commissioner Frederick H. Bealefeld III said the shooting was "calculated" and "premeditated" and acknowledged the connection to prior violence and warring groups, though he did not go into specifics. He said police have to step up their efforts to target violent offenders.
Sunday's violence in East Baltimore continued over the next five hours and into Monday morning. About 10:15 p.m., Darvin Jones, 19, and Gary Martin, 18, were killed in a shootout in the Baltimore Highlands.
An hour later, a pizza delivery driver was shot in the leg during an attempted armed robbery on Harford Road near Lake Clifton. Police do not believe either of the incidents was connected to the cookout shootings.
Near midnight, a 23-year-old man was shot during a running gun battle between two vehicles near East Baltimore and Bond streets. Bealefeld said that shooting is believed to be connected to the cookout shooting and that there may be a second victim. A white Lexus, riddled with bullet holes and carrying the victim, pulled up to the Johns Hopkins emergency room.
And shortly before 2 a.m. Monday, a 17-year-old and 20-year-old were shot in the 200 block of Aisquith St.
The Blackwell family and its associates have had repeated encounters with police. Steven Blackwell Sr. has been in federal prison in Pennsylvania since January 2006, serving a 10-year sentence after police recovered 130 grams of raw heroin, $25,000 in cash and a handgun from his residence.
In April 2008, two of his sons, Stephon and Sterling Blackwell, then 16 and 15 respectively, were among 10 people bound, gagged and held at gunpoint at a Catonsville home for eight hours. Six masked gunmen kidnapped the brothers and, as they were leaving the house, fired shots at Steven Blackwell Jr. as he arrived. Several local and state law enforcement agencies assisted the Baltimore County police in the search for the boys. Two days later, Steven Blackwell Jr. regained custody of his brothers. The boys told authorities little about their ordeal.
Attorney Warren A. Brown worked through an intermediary to negotiate their release. He said Monday that police had few leads at that time and "were just waiting for there to be some type of reaction." No one was ever charged.
Over the next several months, three people police believe were connected to the kidnapping were slain in shootings that authorities said might have been part of a continuing feud between associates of the Blackwells and the Rich family, which is based on the city's west side. Dixon said Monday that police were doing all that they could and that the ability of government and police to intervene in such feuds is limited.
Still, Bealefeld was critical of the Police Department's intelligence gathering and also of a federal investigation of the group that has not produced any significant arrests. Asked whether the investigation had stalled, Bealefeld vowed to "do everything we can to speed those efforts along and to put these guys out of business just as expeditiously as possible."
"Standing on the scene of 12 people shot last night, I can safely speak for the top levels of command in the Police Department [that] we are concerned about the pace and progress of some of these investigations," Bealefeld said.
An FBI spokeswoman in Baltimore said she can't comment on specific investigations.
On Monday, those who were at the Ashland Avenue picnic detailed how the party turned into pandemonium.
Shershallan Bond-Brooks, 37, who is a cousin to hostess Lakeisha Hill, was out front when he heard what sounded like firecrackers. He quickly realized it was gunfire - two guns, he thought. After a few short seconds, the noise ended. His first impulse, he recalled, was to get to his 5-year-old twins and 8-year-old stepson.
"I tried to run and get in the house," he said, "but the tidal wave of people coming through the door pushed me back. I had to stand on the side and let them go. I couldn't get in." He remembers shouting: "Where are my kids, where are my kids?"
Meanwhile, people who had been in the backyard raced down an alley and streamed onto Ashland from both directions.
By then Annette Young, who lives next door to Hill and Bond-Brooks, was huddled inside her home. She had been sitting on her front porch with her two infant grandchildren when the shooting began.
"We went in the house and shut the door," said Young, 46. "And that's where we stayed."
Two of the wounded made it to the sidewalk, another pair to Bond-Brooks' front steps, someone else to his porch. Then police cars swarmed the block, followed by a fire engine and ambulances.
Bond-Brooks managed to get inside his home. He found two of his children hiding upstairs; the third had been escorted out front. All were unhurt. But a 2-year-old girl who had been shot in the arm lay bleeding on the living room sofa.
Out back, three women ended up lying in the alley, said Annette Young's sister, Nicole Williams. Among them was a pregnant woman who'd told Bond-Brooks earlier that she was "due any day." She was hit three times, Williams said. Doctors induced labor and she had a healthy birth.
Hill, the hostess, was shot too - in the back. Bond-Brooks said doctors told the family Monday that she is in fair condition.
Bond-Brooks said he had no idea who might have shot up the picnic, in part because police officers took him to the Eastern District lockup for the night. He said he did not know Blackwell had been there until he heard about it later, and said the episode has left him shaken and afraid.
"I don't know how they look, I don't know who they are," he said of the shooters. "And that heightens the anxiety of, like, why are we going through this?"
He spoke dismayingly of the cycle of violence: "This type of stuff is repetitive. It doesn't stop. It constantly keeps going to one extreme to the next."