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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: Josquius on February 15, 2022, 03:05:33 PM

Poll
Question: Do dwarf women have beards?
Option 1: 100% definitely yes votes: 3
Option 2: They most likely do votes: 5
Option 3: Both sides are valid votes: 5
Option 4: They most likely don't votes: 2
Option 5: 100% definitely not votes: 1
Option 6: My 3rd grade teacher Mrs Peters was under 5 foot and had a beard votes: 2
Title: Dwarf women
Post by: Josquius on February 15, 2022, 03:05:33 PM
Interesting to see a lot of complaints about the LOTR trailer seem to be focusing on this.
What say you?
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: HVC on February 15, 2022, 03:11:06 PM
Mongers would be proud :P
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: Maximus on February 15, 2022, 03:40:30 PM
Dwarves are asexual and there are no dwarven women.
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: The Minsky Moment on February 15, 2022, 03:42:00 PM
I think everyone should be greatly concerned about the precise physical appearance of mythical beings in works of fiction.  It truly is the most momentous issue of our times.
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: mongers on February 15, 2022, 04:00:36 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 15, 2022, 03:11:06 PM
Mongers would be proud :P

"That's my boy"

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Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: The Brain on February 15, 2022, 04:35:04 PM
My impression is generally no, but I haven't seen a lot of dwarf women in the flesh.
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: Jacob on February 15, 2022, 04:45:24 PM
I guess I can be convinced that Tolkien might have pictured them as bearded. On the other hand, my preference is that they're not. As such, I voted "both sides."
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: Malthus on February 15, 2022, 05:26:52 PM
Depends on what kind of fantasy setting we are talking about ...  :hmm:
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: The Brain on February 15, 2022, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 15, 2022, 05:26:52 PM
Depends on what kind of fantasy setting we are talking about ...  :hmm:

Keep your mind out of the gutter.
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: Caliga on February 15, 2022, 07:47:42 PM
I thought there was a reference to them having beards in The Hobbit. :hmm:
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 15, 2022, 07:54:16 PM
I thought it was that some of them had beards and some didn't.
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: grumbler on February 15, 2022, 09:51:02 PM
Dwarven women got their beards from the same source as Jewish women.

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Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: Josquius on February 16, 2022, 03:47:26 AM
Quote from: grumbler on February 15, 2022, 09:51:02 PM
Dwarven women got their beards from the same source as Jewish women.

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A theory which actually seems very possible from the available evidence.
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: merithyn on February 16, 2022, 05:28:52 PM
Quote from: Maximus on February 15, 2022, 03:40:30 PM
Dwarves are asexual and there are no dwarven women.

Tolkien specifically states that 1/3 of the dwarvish population are women in the appendices of LOTR. Beyond that, asexual doesn't mean no gender. There's an argument to be made that a large portion of the dwarven population are asexual, but that doesn't mean that there are no dwarven women.

I voted that they likely had beards.
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: Valmy on February 16, 2022, 05:34:12 PM
Now I haven't reviewed everything Tolkein wrote down on this subject but my understanding is that Tolkein dwarf females have beards.
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: Valmy on February 16, 2022, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 15, 2022, 03:42:00 PM
I think everyone should be greatly concerned about the precise physical appearance of mythical beings in works of fiction.  It truly is the most momentous issue of our times.


I mean it is an adaption of that fiction. Were there previous times where nobody had opinions on how well adaptions did compared to its source material? I don't understand why having an opinion on that topic if you care about the source material would be unreasonable.

However the only thing most people are going to care about is how good this show is, not how loyal the adaptation is. If changing the appearance of dwarf women makes it better then that is a good choice. No adaptation is 100% loyal.
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: mongers on February 16, 2022, 05:48:40 PM
Human males, what's the 'obsession' with cutting facial hair, perhaps a need to appear more feminine?
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: The Brain on February 16, 2022, 05:51:44 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 16, 2022, 05:48:40 PM
Human males, what's the 'obsession' with cutting facial hair, perhaps a need to appear more feminine?

Zuck?
Title: Re: Dwarf women
Post by: Valmy on February 16, 2022, 05:53:17 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 16, 2022, 05:48:40 PM
Human males, what's the 'obsession' with cutting facial hair, perhaps a need to appear more feminine?

It's the Roman way. I don't want somebody thinking I am pro-Greek.